What would it take to get Andrew McCutchen?

[wheels]

Originally Posted by MikeThierry

I think you're the only one here. The guy could be the biggest jerk in the world but I'll take talent every single day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm pretty sure people in the Reds Zone would love Chris Carpenter pitching on the Reds in his prime.

Nope. I don't care if Carpenter is a living saint. Things would be drasticaly askew if he were a Red.

It's not something I can quantify, really.

[Chip R]

Originally Posted by vaticanplum

McCutchen is one of the best deals in baseball under his current contract. For better or worse, the Pirates are not in rebuilding mode and won't pretend to be so anytime soon, because if they even pretend to tease at contending their fans throw them gobs of money. They will never trade him.

Never is a long time.

[REDREAD]

Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Second question: What would it take in trade to get McCutchen?

I'm guessing it obviously would start with Hamilton.

Hamilton, Stephenson, Corcino, Neftali Soto, Ondrusek, Rogers

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Yes, I would do that in a heartbeat. Would not have to think long about it.

My stab. Pretending that I am the Pirates in this fantasy trade. (Would still do this as the Reds, anyone that wouldn't?)

Frasier, Hamilton, Stephenson, Cingrani.

The Pirates get Frasier to immediately fill a hole on their roster, with Hamilton + Cingrani close to ready. Stephenson is a potential ace pitcher down the road.
I think if McCutchen were hypothetically available, this would be closer to the asking price. It would hurt to lose Frasier, but worth it to get an MVP quality bat in CF for a long time.

[vaticanplum]

Originally Posted by Chip R

Never is a long time.

I should say, never, under his current contract, barring injury or other major unforeseen circumstance. So, like, conditional never. Baseball never?

[Vottomatic]

Originally Posted by vaticanplum

I should say, never, under his current contract, barring injury or other major unforeseen circumstance. So, like, conditional never. Baseball never?

I know nobody put a gun to McCutchen's head to sign that contract. But I'd bet promises were made that they'd try and contend, and the Pirates have made some small attempts to upgrade the past few years and atleast look competitive.

But I still feel sorry for him. He's stuck on a team that I'm sure will never contend or make the playoffs while he's fulfilling that contract. Another best player on a bad team scenario. I hate that. Same with Giancarlo Stanton. It's like being stuck in Siberia with no ticket out. Their team has no reason to trade their only and biggest drawing card, along with no reason to contend. It's one situation where I feel for the player.

It's one thing if you're an A-Rod type superstar hitting free agency and you sign with a bad team just for the money. But players under control either have to wait 5 or 6 years making the minimum and getting through arbitration to become a free agent. Or go along with getting more money now offer to protect themselves against a career ending injury and help themself out now. Basically, in terms of playing for a contender, it's out of their hands other than their performance. They can't pick to play for a contender until free agency or unless they're lucky enough to be traded to one.

Makes me wish for more parameters in mlb that created more parity. Or doing away with or relocating the poor franchises.

[Vottomatic]

My next new thread will be........."What will it take to get Justin Verlander?"

Just kidding.

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by Vottomatic

My next new thread will be........."What will it take to get Justin Verlander?"

Just kidding.

If I were Detroit, the only person I would trade Verlander for is Kate Upton.

Which come to think of it, wouldn't be that practical. For a lot of reasons.

[CySeymour]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

If I were Detroit, the only person I would trade Verlander for is Kate Upton.

Which come to think of it, wouldn't be that practical. For a lot of reasons.

I know...Verlander would be below replacement level wearing a bikini

[paulrichjr]

If this had been a topic a couple of weeks ago we could have had the Diamondbacks trade their farm system to the Pirates for "Cutch" and then we could have traded Didi for him straight up. It isn't that often a team gets a chance to have the next Jeter.