Who is Redszone's #9 prospect? 2013

[texasdave]

1) Billy Hamilton
2) Robert Stephenson
3) Tony Cingrani
4) Daniel Corcino
5) Jesse Winker
6) Nick Travieso
7) Henry Rodriguez
8) Ismael Guillon

Still going with the highest ceiling here. Not very confident Yorman will reach it.

[dougdirt]

Also going with Yorman here. Unmatched tools. Just 20. Needs to figure out how to hone in the strikezone though.

[757690]

I'm going with Lutz.

I think the most important tool is the hit tool, and he has the best of the remaining prospects. I'm basically anti-Bowden on prospects, lol.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by 757690

I'm going with Lutz.

I think the most important tool is the hit tool, and he has the best of the remaining prospects. I'm basically anti-Bowden on prospects, lol.

Lutz just hit .269 this year in two hitter friendly parks. In terms of pure hit tool, he probably isn't close to having the best one left. Best pure power left? Maybe. Soto could claim that one.

I don't know, just a bit early for Lutz for me. I don't know that he is a left fielder and if he isn't, he is a first baseman. As a first baseman, his bat doesn't really do much for me.

[HokieRed]

Still going Waldrop though I thought about going with Yorman just because Waldrop has no chance yet here. I've got both ahead of Lutz or Soto.

[757690]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Lutz just hit .269 this year in two hitter friendly parks. In terms of pure hit tool, he probably isn't close to having the best one left. Best pure power left? Maybe. Soto could claim that one.

I don't know, just a bit early for Lutz for me. I don't know that he is a left fielder and if he isn't, he is a first baseman. As a first baseman, his bat doesn't really do much for me.

You're right. I meant best overall hitter. And to be honest, he might not even the best at that, he's just the best of the ones I know. Curiously, who would you have ahead of Lutz as a hitter?

I just think that when it comes to predicting who will be productive in the majors, those that can hit stick longer than those that have those other tools. That's why I hate the term five tool. Most of the guys aren't true five tools players, they are three or four tool players who need to learn how to hit. And if they don't learn how to hit, they are rather useless as a major leaguer.

[mth123]

We've already crossed the line from Prospects to Suspects IMO. Going with Yorman based on tools. A couple of years ago, all these guys would be in the 20s or higher.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by 757690

You're right. I meant best overall hitter. And to be honest, he might not even the best at that, he's just the best of the ones I know. Curiously, who would you have ahead of Lutz as a hitter?

I just think that when it comes to predicting who will be productive in the majors, those that can hit stick longer than those that have those other tools. That's why I hate the term five tool. Most of the guys aren't true five tools players, they are three or four tool players who need to learn how to hit. And if they don't learn how to hit, they are rather useless as a major leaguer.

Lutz isn't on my list until the 20's. I can't simply look at things in terms of pure hitting because Lutz is going to have to hit a whole lot more than nearly everyone else because he is limited to the two easiest positions on the field to play and he may not even stick at one of them.

[mace]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Also going with Yorman here. Unmatched tools. Just 20. Needs to figure out how to hone in the strikezone though.

From what I've gathered, Yorman might need to figure out a lot more than that. He might need to figure out how to commit himself to his craft; how to grind out a season; how to work with his coaches; how to play hard; how to be a good teammate; how to play a proper outfield. In spite of his tools, he may have a long, long way to go--longer, perhaps, than even a guy who grew up in Germany. I'm going with Lutz.

[lollipopcurve]

Lutz, then Yorman.

Lutz was hitting well last year, then had the oblique injury. Came back very strong in the Arizona Fall League. I've been voting him since about #5 -- like him more than most. His ability to play LF is a question, but he's pretty athletic, can run OK, and LF in GABP is playable for lesser defenders.

[Steve4192]

Originally Posted by mth123

We've already crossed the line from Prospects to Suspects IMO.

Agreed.

At this point, I'm just picking the guys who have a good chance of contributing to the big league club. Rodriguez is pyrite as far as I am concerned. I went with Soto because I figure he is a good first half away from being a valuable trading chip.

[Steve4192]

Originally Posted by mace

From what I've gathered, Yorman might need to figure out a lot more than that. He might need to figure out how to commit himself to his craft; how to grind out a season; how to work with his coaches; how to play hard; how to be a good teammate; how to play a proper outfield. In spite of his tools, he may have a long, long way to go

Agreed.

He is a poor man's Wily Mo Pena. All the athletic gifts in the world and very few actual baseball skills. Honestly, I would be surprised if he comes anywhere near matching Wily Mo's career. At least Wily Mo provided value as a trading chip for Bronson Arroyo.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by mace

From what I've gathered, Yorman might need to figure out a lot more than that. He might need to figure out how to commit himself to his craft; how to grind out a season; how to work with his coaches; how to play hard; how to be a good teammate; how to play a proper outfield. In spite of his tools, he may have a long, long way to go--longer, perhaps, than even a guy who grew up in Germany. I'm going with Lutz.

Your information sounds like it was from 2010 rather than 2012.

[Ohayou]

Going with Lutz here. Yes, Rodriguez and Soto are intriguing prospects and yes, they're both still young, but there's just no way in hell a guy hitting a career .259/.303/.685 makes my Top 10...

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Ohayou

Going with Lutz here. Yes, Rodriguez and Soto are intriguing prospects and yes, they're both still young, but there's just no way in hell a guy hitting a career .259/.303/.685 makes my Top 10...

Soto isn't exactly young. Neither is Lutz. They aren't old, but they aren't young. Soto and Lutz shouldn't sniff this top 10. Corner players who at age 23 have multiple questions about their bats?