PDA

View Full Version : 4/8/2013 Reds at Cardinals



Pages : [1] 2

cumberlandreds
04-08-2013, 02:09 PM
Here is the Reds lineup for today. Heisey back in there.


1. Shin-Soo Choo (L) CF
2. Chris Heisey (R) LF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
7. Zack Cozart (R) SS
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
9. Mat Latos (R) P

redsfan1995
04-08-2013, 03:31 PM
For the Cardinals

1. Jon Jay (L) CF
2. Carlos Beltran (S) RF
3. Matt Holliday (R) LF
4. Allen Craig (R) 1B
5. Yadier Molina (R) C
6. David Freese (R) 3B
7. Daniel Descalso (L) 2B
8. Pete Kozma (R) SS
9. Jaime Garcia (L) P

Salukifan2
04-08-2013, 03:56 PM
Matheny is going to wuss out with putting Matt Carpenter 2nd all year i think. And the Reds will reap the benefits

MikeThierry
04-08-2013, 04:53 PM
Matheny is going to wuss out with putting Matt Carpenter 2nd all year i think. And the Reds will reap the benefits

Dirty Dan had the day off yesterday so he's probably getting him in there to get some playing time. I think it will be a 50/50 split this season at 2B.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 05:19 PM
my tv has no video on fsn ohio great

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 05:19 PM
Damn technical difficulties already

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 05:20 PM
Games on MLB Network FYI

texasdave
04-08-2013, 05:22 PM
Here's a thought, Chris. Lay off that pitch. You have proven you can't hit it.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 05:22 PM
Games on MLB Network FYI

blacked out for me

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 05:23 PM
FSOH has been about as big of a disaster as that 1/2 inning was.

coachpipe
04-08-2013, 05:23 PM
Boy do I hate the cardinals.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 05:23 PM
Choo flies to center.
Heisey and Votto come up empty.

LeDoux
04-08-2013, 05:24 PM
Easy inning for Garcia.

klw
04-08-2013, 05:24 PM
I thought Votto had decided not to make any more outs.

coachpipe
04-08-2013, 05:24 PM
Here's a thought, Chris. Lay off that pitch. You have proven you can't hit it.

He isnt helping his case of "heisey deserves to be the starter"

texasdave
04-08-2013, 05:26 PM
It would be nice to see a big outing from Latos.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 05:28 PM
John Jay singles up the middle.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:28 PM
This is not a good match up for Latos, struggles against the Cardinals. If he has a quality start today, it would be a good sign of things to come.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:29 PM
Can somebody mention when the FSOH feed returns so I can get off of FS Mid-West?

kbrake
04-08-2013, 05:29 PM
FSO really driving me up the wall. MLB Network is blacked out for me and this is awful on FSO.

New York Red
04-08-2013, 05:29 PM
Is everyone getting the "Technical Difficulties" issue?

LeDoux
04-08-2013, 05:29 PM
Holliday needs to hit a sharp groundball to a middle infielder.

HalMorrisRules
04-08-2013, 05:30 PM
Is everyone getting the "Technical Difficulties" issue?

Yes, several times now. Appears to be be FSOH related as opposed to provider related.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:31 PM
Appears to be a tight zone.

Chip R
04-08-2013, 05:31 PM
Holliday needs to hit a sharp groundball to a middle infielder.

Hear hear. Don't want to see multiple runners on for Craig and/or Molina.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:32 PM
After not getting the call, he walks him. Craig up with two on and just one out.

kbrake
04-08-2013, 05:32 PM
Latos seems to be getting a bit frustrated with the calls on the outside corner.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 05:32 PM
Latos doesn't give in and Holliday accepts the free pass.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 05:32 PM
Good start by Latos.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:34 PM
Wild pitch on a 1-2 pitch moves both runners up 90 feet.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 05:35 PM
Mat it is May. Mat it is May.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:35 PM
A huge strikeout on a breaking ball moving down and out of the zone. Two down, and everybody's favorite player stepping in.

TSJ55
04-08-2013, 05:36 PM
Latos looks like he's really pressing

Chip R
04-08-2013, 05:36 PM
Here comes trouble.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:37 PM
Consecutive fastballs get ahead 0-2, finish him!

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 05:37 PM
If you want some comedy and frustration, follow @BestFansStLouis on twitter. That account makes me LOL.. Some truly delusional people.

RollyInRaleigh
04-08-2013, 05:37 PM
Hannigan should have blocked that pitch. His technique ha not been so good early. Reaching instead of breaking down immediately to block.

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 05:37 PM
it would be nice if this team didnt have so many passed balls that led to runners moving up

Raisor
04-08-2013, 05:37 PM
Consecutive fastballs get ahead 0-2, finish him!

Mortal Kombat!

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Hannigan should have blocked that pitch. His technique ha not been so good early. Reaching instead of breaking down immediately to block.

hanigan has really been bad and making dumb little mistakes just like he did against the Giants

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Mortal Kombat!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets that.

LeDoux
04-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Hannigan should have blocked that pitch. His technique ha not been so good early. Reaching instead of breaking down immediately to block.

Yeah he has had some off days here.

dougdirt
04-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Here comes trouble.

You spelled it wrong
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121027141754/theoffice/images/8/8e/281543_10151135790859091_1060729156_n.jpg

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:38 PM
He's getting ahead but having a hard time finishing hitters. After being ahead 0-2 it's now 3-2 to Molina.

Chip R
04-08-2013, 05:39 PM
You spelled it wrong
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121027141754/theoffice/images/8/8e/281543_10151135790859091_1060729156_n.jpg

Very good.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:39 PM
And Choo drops a fly ball.

dougdirt
04-08-2013, 05:39 PM
Well that went well......

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 05:40 PM
not gonna blame Choo for that, Latos dug himself his own grave and deserved those runs to cross

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 05:40 PM
FINISH people, Latos. Sheesh.

reds1869
04-08-2013, 05:40 PM
Ouch.

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 05:40 PM
"Stubbs would've had that"

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 05:40 PM
I understand they want to get Choo comfortable out in center field but the objective is to win games. Put Heisey in CF and Choo in LF .

TSJ55
04-08-2013, 05:40 PM
Can't pitch scared.

LeDoux
04-08-2013, 05:41 PM
Using the Alonso standard, Choo should never play CF again.

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 05:41 PM
Cardinals still have better overall offense than the reds so if you slip up in anyway they will destroy you, your pitches need to be perfect

kbrake
04-08-2013, 05:41 PM
Going to have to take the good with the bad with Choo. No big deal, they'll bounce back.

dougdirt
04-08-2013, 05:41 PM
not gonna blame Choo for that, Latos dug himself his own grave and deserved those runs to cross

You are the only one. Latos did what he needed to do in order to keep the 0 on the board. Choo screwed up.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 05:42 PM
it was in choo glove he just didn't squeeze it

NJReds
04-08-2013, 05:55 PM
You are the only one. Latos did what he needed to do in order to keep the 0 on the board. Choo screwed up.

According to the boxscore, they credited Molina with a double. But based on what you're saying, Choo dropped a fly ball? Unfortunately I can't see it, is this just home cooking by the official scorer in St. Louis?

EDIT: Scratch that ... changed to an error now on Yahoo.

Gizmo
04-08-2013, 05:55 PM
board still broke :(

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 05:55 PM
Latos = the Jay Bruce of the starting pitching staff

dougdirt
04-08-2013, 05:56 PM
Am I wrong when I say that Choo has had two chances on the warning track where he was moving still and butchered both plays? The one in GABP where he freaked out at the wall and had it bounce off the wall and go by him and then this one today? Scouts said he played right like he was scared of the wall. I am not seeing anything so far that suggests otherwise.

Gizmo
04-08-2013, 05:56 PM
According to the boxscore, they credited Molina with a double. But based on what you're saying, Choo dropped a fly ball? Unfortunately I can't see it, is this just home cooking by the official scorer in St. Louis?

he went a long way to drop it twice, but, yes, he dropped it.

kaldaniels
04-08-2013, 05:56 PM
Latos = the Jay Bruce of the starting pitching staff

I'll bite. Explain.

Edd Roush
04-08-2013, 05:57 PM
So was this Choo drop a not top 10 play on Sportscenter bad or just a tough play that he couldn't finish? Can someone provide color for those of us who are at work?

Thanks.

kaldaniels
04-08-2013, 05:57 PM
Am I wrong when I say that Choo has had two chances on the warning track where he was moving still and butchered both plays? The one in GABP where he freaked out at the wall and had it bounce off the wall and go by him and then this one today? Scouts said he played right like he was scared of the wall. I am not seeing anything so far that suggests otherwise.

I believe he has caught others on the track. He botched those two, but I don't think he is 0-2.

kaldaniels
04-08-2013, 05:57 PM
Announcers did mention sun is alittle funky at this moment.

Gallen5862
04-08-2013, 05:57 PM
Did anyone else have the board stop and then get a error message?

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 05:57 PM
what just happened to the board??

OesterPoster
04-08-2013, 05:58 PM
Yeah, couldn't get anything for about 5 to 10 minutes.

NJReds
04-08-2013, 05:58 PM
he went a long way to drop it twice, but, yes, he dropped it.

Thanks for the explanation. And it's now listed as an error in the boxscore as well.

OesterPoster
04-08-2013, 05:58 PM
Latos has now lowered his career ERA at Busch to 12.00. Keep it going! :)

kaldaniels
04-08-2013, 05:58 PM
what just happened to the board??

So far this year a bad play by the Reds crashes the board due to the amount of people jumping into complain. No?

dougdirt
04-08-2013, 05:58 PM
I believe he has caught others on the track. He botched those two, but I don't think he is 0-2.

Was he moving while he caught those though? I know he has caught one on the track while standing there at it. But I don't recall another one where he was moving on the track. Anyone remember?

Buckeye33
04-08-2013, 05:58 PM
It is early, but Garcia is throwing some NASTY pitches. Lets hope that doesn't stay up the whole game. He looks really good right now.

Gizmo
04-08-2013, 05:59 PM
So was this Choo drop a not top 10 play on Sportscenter bad or just a tough play that he couldn't finish? Can someone provide color for those of us who are at work?

Thanks.

He chased it down just short of the track and had it hit the outside of his webbing, bounce up, again hit the outside of his webbing and fall just out of reach on the track. It wasn't terrible, but should have been caught. Perhaps, twice.

BluegrassRedleg
04-08-2013, 05:59 PM
Good Lord, this guy is on his game so far. Ball is moving. Location is pinpoint. :(

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 06:01 PM
Can't even come to this site on gameday sheesh

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:01 PM
the play choo/heisey ran into each if choo called it (unsure if either did) it's heisey fault since choo the cf right?

RedsfaninMT
04-08-2013, 06:02 PM
Seems to me Choo could have fared just as poorly in RF. Yes, he ran a good distance to get to the ball, but the ground he covered wasn't the problem. Not squeezing it in his glove was a problem. My expectations/concerns was him balking at the wall (already one occurrence) or not covering enough ground, which I have not seen as a problem...yet.

Gizmo
04-08-2013, 06:02 PM
Chance for some Choodemption after Latos walk

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:02 PM
Good Lord, this guy is on his game so far. Ball is moving. Location is pinpoint. :(

On my I-Phone "9 Innings" game, Garcia is always around the plate, but rarely throws strikes.

Make him throw strikes. :p

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:03 PM
choo is gonna struggle with lefties badly so get used to it people before you start complaining

klw
04-08-2013, 06:03 PM
I hate these games where it seems that the Reds have orders to swing at the first pitch. It is usually against control pitchers. Less so that inning.

2-0 going to the bottom of the 3rd.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:05 PM
While Redszone went down, I drove up the street to Skyline to get me some dinner. On FM 100.3, the topic of discussion is "would you trade a Reds marquee player to free up money to re-sign Choo?"

Piecoro was asked the question and he said he'd trade Jay Bruce to re-sign Choo.

Choo on that Redszone. LOL.

HometownHero
04-08-2013, 06:11 PM
I hate these games where it seems that the Reds have orders to swing at the first pitch. It is usually against control pitchers. Less so that inning.

2-0 going to the bottom of the 3rd.

I just hate the Cardinals as something wacky is bound to happen to cost you the game. Get down a couple runs seems impossible to comeback go up 5 runs seems impossible to hold the lead.

RedsManRick
04-08-2013, 06:11 PM
Feeling like we're going to need a few innings from Alfredo Simon this afternoon.

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:11 PM
Latos is gonna have to throw at least 100 pitches because the bullpen is draaained

RedsBrick
04-08-2013, 06:12 PM
All right, let's get some base runners and move 'em around!

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:13 PM
Feeling like we're going to need a few innings from Alfredo Simon this afternoon.

I'd rather the Reds not concede 3 or more runs by putting Simon in

Caveat Emperor
04-08-2013, 06:13 PM
Thank god Holliday made an out there, because the slobbering from Thom would've been insufferable if he'd worked a walk.

RedsBrick
04-08-2013, 06:14 PM
I just hate the Cardinals as something wacky is bound to happen to cost you the game. Get down a couple runs seems impossible to comeback go up 5 runs seems impossible to hold the lead.

Hilarious, I feel the same way.

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:14 PM
Latos' inability to put hitters away is infuriating. I'm reminded of Suzuki's 2nd inning AB yesterday.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:15 PM
Latos is the Jay Bruce of the pitching staff.

RedsBrick
04-08-2013, 06:15 PM
atta boy, Heisey! Let's keep it going

TSJ55
04-08-2013, 06:15 PM
Nice hustle there

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:15 PM
good job heisey

klw
04-08-2013, 06:16 PM
I just hate the Cardinals as something wacky is bound to happen to cost you the game. Get down a couple runs seems impossible to comeback go up 5 runs seems impossible to hold the lead.

You still have that facial tic that come's on anytime anyone says "mother's day" ? ;)

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:16 PM
Chris always hustles, I'll give him that.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:16 PM
Latos is the Jay Bruce of the pitching staff.

what does this mean?

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:16 PM
Nice hustle by Heisey. Let's get him home now.

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:17 PM
Latos is not long for this game IMO

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:17 PM
Choo would have taken that one for the team.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:18 PM
Latos is not long for this game IMO

he can go 5 maybe 6

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:18 PM
what does this mean?

I'd guess, a ton of talent, but someone you don't feel like you can rely on.

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:18 PM
in business, dont fricking hit into another double play phillips

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 06:18 PM
Please NO DP

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 06:18 PM
I'm not so sure he was safe.

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:18 PM
what does this mean?

They're both streaky

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
That didn't help.

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
What the hell was that Heisey?!

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
heisey dumb

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
Never mind he never touched home. What was he thinking?

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
heisey with a great hustle play then a very dumb play

HometownHero
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
WTF was Heisey doing there?

RedsBrick
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
From atta boy to what the heck!

Buckeye33
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
Wow, could have been safe. Great piece of hitting by the 4 hole :confused:

foxfire123
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
I hate St Louis. Just sayin'.

I can't even watch..... :(

RedsManRick
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
Geez -- what the heck was that?!

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
Un Be lievable

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:19 PM
What the ^&&%$# was that Heisey?????

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
He wasnt even close to the plate

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
Reds never seem to make the smart plays against St Louis, just always how it has been. Have to beat them with just being alot better or aren't winning

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
maybe the sun was blocking plate lol

BCubb2003
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
Trying to break up the double play?

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
He would have been safe if he slides over the plate, and not try to take the catcher out. Bone-head!

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
I'm lost as to what that was.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
Heisey = the Mat Latos of our OFers

;)

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 06:20 PM
Possibly one of the dumbest plays I have ever seen.

RedsBrick
04-08-2013, 06:21 PM
Nice!

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 06:21 PM
should be tied up

Krawhitham
04-08-2013, 06:21 PM
What the ^&&%$# was that Heisey?????

He knew he was out and wanted to breakup the DP at 1st base

Gainesville Red
04-08-2013, 06:21 PM
I don't even know what to say about that.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:21 PM
Jay Clutch Bruce.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:22 PM
so does this mean latos is good now?

Crumbley
04-08-2013, 06:22 PM
Going to go on ahead and ask for an MRI to be done on Heisey's brain. What on Earth?

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:23 PM
Bruce has more talent than anyone on the roster just wish he would be more consistent

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 06:23 PM
I feel like the site's going to go down any time now

Reds Freak
04-08-2013, 06:23 PM
heisey with a great hustle play then a very dumb play

I didn't see the play, but often times with runners on the corners the runner on 3rd automatically goes on anything on the ground. Make the defense make the play and stay out of the double play. If Heisey stays at 3rd, the Cardinals probably turn two and the Reds have a runner on 3rd with 2 outs.

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:23 PM
Latos wasn't getting that low outside strike that was strike 2 on Frazier

50YrRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:24 PM
Trying to break up the double play?

I think that's what he was doing, figuring he was going to be out at the plate.

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:24 PM
I feel like the site's going to go down any time now

Yeah, doing some screwy stuff on me.

Sean_CaseyRules
04-08-2013, 06:24 PM
He knew he was out and wanted to breakup the DP at 1st base

It was a tag play at home though....he would've been safe if he would have slid to the outside.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:25 PM
I didn't see the play, but often times with runners on the corners the runner on 3rd automatically goes on anything on the ground. Make the defense make the play and stay out of the double play. If Heisey stays at 3rd, the Cardinals probably turn two and the Reds have a runner on 3rd with 2 outs.

molina is like 2 feet to the right of plate and heisey decided to slide right between his legs instead of plate

Buckeye33
04-08-2013, 06:25 PM
He knew he was out and wanted to breakup the DP at 1st base

Well then he was dumb for thinking it was a force out play at home because it wasn't. Was a tag play which eliminated any change of a double play.

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:25 PM
only 1 run there is pretty bad

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 06:26 PM
Reds not playing their best today, from Choo dropping the fly ball and Heisey going brain dead on the bases, this really should be a 2-0 Reds lead not a 2-1 deficit.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:26 PM
I said earlier. While the site was down, I drove up the street and got some Skyline for dinner. On FM 100.3 the topic of discussion was "would you trade a Reds marquee player to free up money to re-sign Choo?"

Piecoro said he'd trade Jay Bruce to do it.

Choo on that Redszone. LOL.

Not kidding.

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:26 PM
I just did a search for "Heisey (naughty word I can't say here)" and there are some angry StL fans after that slide. Interesting.

50YrRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:27 PM
Reds should have had more than 1 run that inning.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:28 PM
I just did a search for "Heisey (naughty word I can't say here)" and there are some angry StL fans after that slide. Interesting.

id be also there was no need for it

Red Raindog
04-08-2013, 06:28 PM
Molina must have covered the plate up with dirt & Heisey couldn't find it.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:29 PM
The Cards game plan: Hit everything to CF

:D

New York Red
04-08-2013, 06:30 PM
Heisey basically slid up the first base line. That's one of the strangest things I've seen in a baseball game.

HometownHero
04-08-2013, 06:31 PM
Who didn't see that coming?

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:31 PM
wow that was quick, all that work to get a measly run and they come right back and take control of the game

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:32 PM
Is it Louisville National Championship game time yet? (sigh)

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:35 PM
I hate Louisville basketball more than I hate St. Louis baseball.

Buckeye33
04-08-2013, 06:35 PM
Is it Louisville National Championship game time yet? (sigh)

Are you really done with this game already? It is the 7th game of the year that the Reds are trailing 3-1 in the 4th inning and you act like no one should even watch the other 5 innings.

Come on man.

50YrRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:35 PM
Latos who throws near 95 mph has 2 K's; Garcia who is lucky to hit 90mph has 6 K's. Reds too anxious and won't wait on the pitches.

dougdirt
04-08-2013, 06:36 PM
Has Ryan Hanigan hit the ball out of the infield yet this season?

Buckeye33
04-08-2013, 06:37 PM
Latos who throws near 95 mph has 2 K's; Garcia who is lucky to hit 90mph has 6 K's. Reds too anxious and won't wait on the pitches.

And Garcia is throwing pitches that are moving WAY more than Latos' are.

757690
04-08-2013, 06:37 PM
id be also there was no need for it

If I were the manager, I'd pull Heisey fom the game right there. It was an embarrassment.

New York Red
04-08-2013, 06:37 PM
I hate Louisville basketball more than I hate St. Louis baseball.
Same here. I'm rooting hard for Michigan.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:37 PM
Has Ryan Hanigan hit the ball out of the infield yet this season?

He hit one deeeep to center once. I remember that.

Degenerate39
04-08-2013, 06:38 PM
A 5 pitch inning? Ugh

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 06:38 PM
Has Ryan Hanigan hit the ball out of the infield yet this season?

no i think he's lost all confidence in himself after the giants series collapse and has become the new black hole/ drew stubbs of the lineup but he has no speed which makes it possibly worse

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:38 PM
Has Ryan Hanigan hit the ball out of the infield yet this season?

he hasn't hit since August

50YrRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:39 PM
Has Ryan Hanigan hit the ball out of the infield yet this season?

We have to get more from Cozart & Hanigan. Cozart at .115 and Hanny at .059.
Not good

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:39 PM
A 5 pitch inning? Ugh

I blinked and missed the entire half-inning. That Reds' at-bat was so quick that Marty didn't get a chance to drop a single name. Amazing.

Raisor
04-08-2013, 06:40 PM
We have to get more from Cozart & Hanigan. Cozart at .115 and Hanny at .059.
Not good



Serious question:

Have you ever posted anything positive?

You do understand it's still the first week, right? and that the team is averaging over 6 runs a game?

Buckeye33
04-08-2013, 06:43 PM
Serious question:

Have you ever posted anything positive?

I have been on Redszone for a LONG time. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle game threads this year. The complaining in this thread alone makes me want to punch myself.

"It is 3-1 in the 4th inning, this game is over when does Louisville play?"

:confused::confused:

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:43 PM
if latos can get jay quick inning himself

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 06:44 PM
I have been on Redszone for a LONG time. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle game threads this year. The complaining in this thread alone makes me want to punch myself.

"It is 3-1 in the 4th inning, this game is over when does Louisville play?"

:confused::confused:

people just don't understand how long a baseball season is.

texasdave
04-08-2013, 06:45 PM
Latos has pitched a solid five innings. A little pine tar in Choo's glove and we are all tied up at 1.

hebroncougar
04-08-2013, 06:45 PM
I think the negativity is feeding off of Thom Brennaman on TV. All they are doing is talking about how awesome the Cardinals are. Maybe George snuck into the booth and is disguising himself with Thom's voice???

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:46 PM
It would be nice if our hitters showed some patience this inning. According to The Cowboy, Garcia is throwing nearly all off speed and breaking balls. Almost zero fast balls. Let's string together some hits.

BCubb2003
04-08-2013, 06:46 PM
Latos has pitched a solid five innings. A little pine tar in Choo's glove and we are all tied up at 1.

Latos is matching Cueto's start. Too bad they're not facing Strasburg.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:46 PM
people just don't understand how long a baseball season is.

162 games?

New York Red
04-08-2013, 06:48 PM
I have been on Redszone for a LONG time. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle game threads this year. The complaining in this thread alone makes me want to punch myself.

"It is 3-1 in the 4th inning, this game is over when does Louisville play?"

:confused::confused:
As one of the new ORGers, I'm calling BS on this. I couldn't post in them, but I've read many ORG game threads over the past three years. The negativity in this year's threads is nothing compared to some I've seen in the past. I agree 40yearfan is pretty negative, but you're talking one poster out of hundreds on this site.

coachpipe
04-08-2013, 06:48 PM
Heisey. Now what's that about

Raisor
04-08-2013, 06:48 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWmji7Tg7pwR6X0kpH_8OjeRnsaCq4v KEQ7JkZFNC6TuF1uEIGyvZOf9OVcAThe thing about the Reds scoring six runs a game is that there are going to be games where they DON'T score six runs in a game.

We don't even know if this is going to be one of those games yet.

Take a break. Walk around the block, it will be alright.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:48 PM
Axe Marty time.

TRF
04-08-2013, 06:50 PM
Marty wears Axe?


ew.

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:50 PM
This game is infuriating!

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:51 PM
This game is infuriating!

Way too negative. Tone it down.

;)

HometownHero
04-08-2013, 06:51 PM
DATDUDE!

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:51 PM
BP sticking it to the Cards.

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:51 PM
Some of you on here ain't gonna make it (emotionally) till the AS break! LOL

BP hits a HR .... 3-2 now

BluegrassRedleg
04-08-2013, 06:51 PM
BOOM. You know that felt good. :D

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:51 PM
Love to see Brandon do that in StL. Poor call by Thom.

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:53 PM
Bruce INF single

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:53 PM
I'm lovin' how Bruce is using his speed with all these infield hits lately. :p

GAC
04-08-2013, 06:53 PM
Where in the heck is FCB when we need him? :D

50YrRedsFan
04-08-2013, 06:54 PM
Serious question:

Have you ever posted anything positive?

You do understand it's still the first week, right? and that the team is averaging over 6 runs a game?

Yes I have. I praise the pitching a lot. I am more critical of our hitting because of our failure in many offensive areas. I have been a Reds fan for more than 45 years now and have been through both good and bad. The offensive approach this team has, whether it is Dusty's or Jacoby's, IMHO leaves a lot to be desired. Too many k's and poor patience at the plate to mention a couple of items.
One thing I do not do is personal attacks on other posters. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I believe that is what this board is for.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:55 PM
If we only had Broxton and Chapman to hold them in the 8th and 9th, and we could hit 2 more bombs, we win this thing.

:p

OGB
04-08-2013, 06:56 PM
Way too negative. Tone it down.

;)

I hate watching our #2 struggle while the opposing team's #2 breezes through the game, getting strike calls that our guy wasn't getting and desperately needed.

Raisor
04-08-2013, 06:56 PM
Yes I have. I praise the pitching a lot. I am more critical of our hitting because of our failure in many offensive areas. I have been a Reds fan for more than 45 years now and have been through both good and bad. The offensive approach this team has, whether it is Dusty's or Jacoby's, IMHO leaves a lot to be desired. Too many k's and poor patience at the plate to mention a couple of items.
One thing I do not do is personal attacks on other posters. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I believe that is what this board is for.

I was attacking the message, not the messenger.

Chill dude. It's a long season. You'll give yourself hives.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 06:56 PM
Garcia only at 80 pitches after 6 IP.

Probably easily goes 8 innings today.

RiverRat13
04-08-2013, 06:58 PM
As one of the new ORGers, I'm calling BS on this. I couldn't post in them, but I've read many ORG game threads over the past three years. The negativity in this year's threads is nothing compared to some I've seen in the past. I agree 40yearfan is pretty negative, but you're talking one poster out of hundreds on this site.

Spot on.

Magdal
04-08-2013, 07:00 PM
Ah yes! Another season with the Reds battling the Cards! I love it. I don't love the new confusion of this dam site! What's the deal??!

OGB
04-08-2013, 07:01 PM
Latos finally got that low outside strike

BluegrassRedleg
04-08-2013, 07:02 PM
Boy oh boy oh boy.

Red Raindog
04-08-2013, 07:02 PM
OK -- Choo has a problem

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 07:02 PM
The board may explode now.

GAC
04-08-2013, 07:02 PM
AHHHHHHH Choo :laugh:

50YrRedsFan
04-08-2013, 07:02 PM
I was attacking the message, not the messenger.

Chill dude. It's a long season. You'll give yourself hives.

I will try too limit my criticisms and not be so negative. I want the Reds to win as much as anyone on this board. 1990 is a long time ago.

New York Red
04-08-2013, 07:02 PM
Wow, Choo drops another one.

Stray
04-08-2013, 07:03 PM
one foot off of the Choo bandwagon now...

:laugh:

OGB
04-08-2013, 07:03 PM
Ouch. Let me be one of the first to say I was wrong about Choo in CF

Stray
04-08-2013, 07:03 PM
one foot off of the Choo bandwagon now...

:laugh:

TSJ55
04-08-2013, 07:04 PM
Speechless

texasdave
04-08-2013, 07:04 PM
I have to agree with the earlier poster. If Ludwick is going to be out much of the season, switch Choo and Heisey. Anyone heard how long he is expected to be out?

RedsManRick
04-08-2013, 07:04 PM
Wow. Who would've thought he had the range but he just couldn't catch the ball. 3 unearned runs allowed defensively and 1 run passed up on the bases due to stupid errors.

New York Red
04-08-2013, 07:04 PM
Did he have these issues in RF?

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 07:04 PM
Yeesh, Choo.

GAC
04-08-2013, 07:04 PM
And I just rebuked an Indian fan the other day on the golf course that said "Choo can't catch". LOL

HometownHero
04-08-2013, 07:08 PM
Wow Choo is flat out is giving this game away on Molina outs. If things go right and Choo held on to the the two times he dropped Molina's balls and Chris takes the open half of the plate this it's at least 3-1 lead rather than a 4-2 hole.

The last 2+ games the Cardinals have 15 runs with 2 outs!

Kingspoint
04-08-2013, 07:10 PM
Choo obviously is not a Centerfielder. Should have put in left immediately in game two and put Heisey in CF.

BluegrassRedleg
04-08-2013, 07:10 PM
I think you have to flip Heisey and Choo at this point. Don't let this become something that affects Choo at the plate.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 07:11 PM
I don't see why this is Choo's fault. He told them he would try but that he wasn't comfortable in CF. Seems like management's fault more than his.

wally post
04-08-2013, 07:13 PM
Nice hit by Choo. I'm thinking the sun was pretty fierce - plus first time in a new park. I'm giving Choo more time before voting him off of center field

LexRedsFan
04-08-2013, 07:14 PM
Nice smash by Heisey! Two in scoring position for Joey.

BluegrassRedleg
04-08-2013, 07:14 PM
Ball hit right at you is the most difficult play in the OF. Even with all his speed, Stubbs was subpar at the "at-em" ball, misplaying a bunch of them over his head. Of course, they didn't look as bad as these plays Choo made, but it's not easy. The good ones just make it look that way. :)

mattfeet
04-08-2013, 07:14 PM
I still think Choo will be adequately sufficient in CF. I also think the brutal late-afternoon sun is part to blame for those drops today. Choo can make those plays and he will as he gets more and more comfortable. I often thought that Stubbs was also quite tentative around the wall and couldn't make those plays as well as Bruce/Heisey do. It's just unfortunate the plays that he's missed have made him look really, really, bad.

-Matt

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 07:14 PM
1. This site needs to be fixed
2. Get choo out of CF and put Heisey there
3. This site needs to be fixed

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 07:15 PM
1 time votto? he's due right?

New York Red
04-08-2013, 07:15 PM
I don't see why this is Choo's fault. He told them he would try but that he wasn't comfortable in CF. Seems like management's fault more than his.
He dropped two balls hit right at him, that landed in his glove. Not sure you can put the blame for that on anyone else but him.

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 07:15 PM
how in the heck do you hold choo there??

RedsManRick
04-08-2013, 07:15 PM
I'm shocked they're actually going to pitch to Votto (assuming they do).

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 07:16 PM
1. This site needs to be fixed
2. Get choo out of CF and put Heisey there
3. This site needs to be fixed

So what are trying to say? :p

RedsManRick
04-08-2013, 07:16 PM
how in the heck do you hold choo there??

He must have gotten a crappy jump. He was barely in to 3rd when the throw came in.

New York Red
04-08-2013, 07:16 PM
1. This site needs to be fixed
2. Get choo out of CF and put Heisey there
3. This site needs to be fixed
Amen. I don't have any problems with any other site, but have issues with RZ every day it seems.

OGB
04-08-2013, 07:17 PM
There's a lot to love about this team. All told, they've played a pretty poor game - bad defense, bad baserunning, way too many Ks/poor approach at the plate, poor pitch count efficiency by Latos...
The fact that they're still right in this speaks volumes.

redsfaninbsg
04-08-2013, 07:17 PM
It sure would be a great time for Votto to get out of this funk.

Hillsdale87
04-08-2013, 07:17 PM
I still think Choo will be adequately sufficient in CF. I also think the brutal late-afternoon sun is part to blame for those drops today. Choo can make those plays and he will as he gets more and more comfortable.

I agree. His issue has not been the routes he's taking. He's reading the ball well off the bat and getting to these, which was the primary concern before the season started. Obviously it's a concern that he's dropped two today, but I would think that's more a freak thing than something that I would expect to be a problem going forward

mattfeet
04-08-2013, 07:17 PM
Unintentional-intentional walk coming right up.

GAC
04-08-2013, 07:18 PM
I can't believe we're still very much in this game after all the silly, head-shaking miscues we had! LOL

PuffyPig
04-08-2013, 07:18 PM
how in the heck do you hold choo there??

I guess you do if you want to score any more runs this inning.

Mutaman
04-08-2013, 07:18 PM
The problem with putting Heisy in center- what do you do when heisy shows for the umpteenth time that he is not an every day player?

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 07:18 PM
Votto continues his hot start.

mattfeet
04-08-2013, 07:19 PM
Unfortunate AB by Votto, there. That sucks.

Stray
04-08-2013, 07:19 PM
Votto still isn't himself. He's had a ton of chances early in the year.

REDSEER
04-08-2013, 07:19 PM
Votto in a big funk. He'll get out of it soon enough. Law of averages, right?

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 07:19 PM
votto does what votto does not hitting well at all early in the season

mattfeet
04-08-2013, 07:23 PM
Normally I'd be ok with him swinging there, but Id take the BB and let Phillips have a go at it with the game on the line like it is.

Vottomatic
04-08-2013, 07:23 PM
I'd move Joey up to 2nd in the lineup. Get him some pitches to hit or let him walk every time.

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 07:39 PM
tie game

R_Webb18
04-08-2013, 07:39 PM
does the forum need some sort of update?

Maker_84
04-08-2013, 07:39 PM
I'd move Joey up to 2nd in the lineup. Get him some pitches to hit or let him walk every time.

yep