4/20 Miami vs the Reds

[KittyDuran]

Here @GABP. If the lineup that's being shown is true... Then RZ might have a meltdown & Doug will be delirious. ;) Guess who's catching Arroyo?

[Reds Fanatic]

I'm here at GABP too.

Reds lineup

Chop cf
Cozart ss
Votto 1b
Phillips 2b
Bruce rf
Frazier 3b
Heisey lf
Mesoraco c
Arroyo p

[KittyDuran]

Nice & warm in the sun. Just finished off a Subway, chips & a couple cookies. Ready for some baseball!

[Red Raindog]

Is this game on the tube?

Don't see it on my phone ap from Dish.

[dougdirt]

Here @GABP. If the lineup that's being shown is true... Then RZ might have a meltdown & Doug will be delirious. ;) Guess who's catching Arroyo?

It is far too cold to melt!

[Kc61]

Hanigan has a thumb injury.

Could explain his hitting so far this year.

Hope Mes does well, Reds aren't getting much from the bottom of the order so far.

[Kc61]

Two quick outs for Arroyo.

[Kc61]

Stanton is hitting .162. I wonder if there are threads saying this is a Rick Ankiel or Steve Blass thing.

Arroyo strikes out Stanton. With Mes catching.

[757690]

Here @GABP. If the lineup that's being shown is true... Then RZ might have a meltdown & Doug will be delirious. ;) Guess who's catching Arroyo?

And so it begins...

[_Sir_Charles_]

I sure am glad I peeked in here. I thought it was a night game today. :O)

[dougdirt]

Stanton is hitting .162. I wonder if there are threads saying this is a Rick Ankiel or Steve Blass thing.

Arroyo strikes out Stanton. With Mes catching.

That would require there being Marlin fans....

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hanigan has a thumb injury.

Could explain his hitting so far this year.

Hope Mes does well, Reds aren't getting much from the bottom of the order so far.

It might've come on that first AB yesterday. Right off the knuckles, I saw him shaking his hand and wincing afterwards. Regardless, get well soon Hanny.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Choo....just a pleasure to watch him. Another leadoff hit. Sheesh!

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm surprised (mildly) that Mesoraco is hitting where he is. I'd have him higher in the order.

SB for Choo.

[Kc61]

It might've come on that first AB yesterday. Right off the knuckles, I saw him shaking his hand and wincing afterwards. Regardless, get well soon Hanny.

No, it dates back to an April game with the Cards. You probably saw him expressing the pain of the injury.

I'm still down on Hanigan offensively, but if he's hurt, it explains a log.

Choo on second, one out. Votto up.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Shallow fly out to Stanton from Cozart. 1 down. Choo holds at 2nd.

[OGB]

Should we start a thread to guess how long Choo's on base streak will go, or are people here to superstitious?

[OGB]

Jim Kelch does not know what irony is.

[Kc61]

Bad at bat for Cozart there. Now Votto flies out to left. Shooting for the single to left, but popped it up a bit.

Now Phillips.

[_Sir_Charles_]

No, it dates back to an April game with the Cards. You probably saw him expressing the pain of the injury.

I'm still down on Hanigan offensively, but if he's hurt, it explains a log.

Choo on second, one out. Votto up.

Yeah, I remember that one too. Foul ball off his hand. If he's been struggling with it that long I'm surprised it's taken this long. Personally, I bet it's an excuse to sit him and start Mesoraco without Hanny losing face. Just a guess.

Good looking swings from Votto. Normal looking at least. Fly out to left. 2 down.

[OGB]

Is it my imagination, or does BPhil seem more selective at the plate this year, much like Bruce?

[Kc61]

Yeah, I remember that one too. Foul ball off his hand. If he's been struggling with it that long I'm surprised it's taken this long. Personally, I bet it's an excuse to sit him and start Mesoraco without Hanny losing face. Just a guess.

Good looking swings from Votto. Normal looking at least. Fly out to left. 2 down.

Hanigan is batting .079. I don't think Dusty needs an excuse to sit him.

Phillips walks. Now that Votto's making outs, they won't pitch to Phillips, LOL.

C'mon Bruce.

[_Sir_Charles_]

BB to Phillips.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hanigan is batting .079. I don't think Dusty needs an excuse to sit him.

True.

[757690]

Jim Kelch does not know what irony is.

It's ironic that literally everyone misuses the words "ironic" and "literally."

[Kc61]

Is it my imagination, or does BPhil seem more selective at the plate this year, much like Bruce?

In some article, Dusty said that he wants the guys to be more patient at the plate. Maybe we're seeing that with Phillips and Bruce.

2-1 count on Bruce.

Now full count.

[Kc61]

Bruce fans.

[OGB]

Thought he was gonna ring him up on that 2-2.
Ugh, ugly swing in 3-2

[_Sir_Charles_]

Could be a long day for Jay if he keeps getting that pitch. Right on the black and tailing away. Tempting and nearly unhittable. Good pitch

[Kc61]

Dobbs singles. Lefty hits Arroyo well.

Funny that Reds now have three top lefty hitters, Choo, Votto, Bruce. Yet Reds are feasting on lefty pitching with league leading .877 OPS. Small sample.

Ruggiano Ks. One out.

[Kc61]

One thousandth strike out for Arroyo as a Red.

[Kc61]

Green bounces to Phillips, runner to second.

Old friend Miguel Olivo comiing up.

[OGB]

I don't think too many people considered the possibility that Arroyo could have a better year than last year. He is playing for what is likely to be his final contract, though, so who knows

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pretty pitch! 1001 k's.

[Kc61]

Olivo fans.

Picking up on the last point, Reds have .710 OPS against righties. But the SLG part is way down, below .400. Obviously because Votto and Bruce have 1 homer between them.

Reds coming up in second.

[edabbs44]

Big Papi just addressed Fenway in an emotional pregame ceremony. And dropped a massive f bomb in the process.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice job Chris. He's such a solid bunter.

[Kc61]

Heisey legs out a bunt single with one out in the second. Close play at first.

[OGB]

That was a real nice play by LeBlanc. Fortunately the one thing Heisey does consistently is hustle.

[OGB]

Hadn't given it much thought, but they should be able to run all day on Olivo, maybe steal an e tra run or two that way.

[oneupper]

Nice job Chris. He's such a solid bunter.

He's been robbed by bad calls a couple of times this year.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice swing there. Going oppo. 1st & 2nd with 1 down for Bronson.

[Kc61]

Two on, one out, pitcher up for the Reds. I guess Bronson will be bunting. Bunts foul, strike one.

[OGB]

How many professional looking swings did Mes have like that one last year?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Darn. Really good play by Olivo to get Heisey at third.

[Kc61]

Arroyo bunts but a force play at third. Choo up.

[Maker_84]

choo hasnt hit a HR in awhile, would be nice if he had one here

[Kc61]

2-1 count on Choo. Now 2-2. Now 3-2 on Choo.

[KittyDuran]

Chuck D and the boys are chanting "Chuga-Chuga Choo Choo... :D

[Kc61]

Lucky that Pierre couldn't catch that foul fly by Choo. Gives Choo a life with two men on.

[OGB]

That was a gift.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pierre drops it. Foul ball and he face plants into the wall. He probably should've had it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

works the walk. Bases loaded for Cozy.

[KYRedsFan]

very nice at bat

[Kc61]

Bases loaded for Cozart. Strike one swinging, this pitcher had Cozart off balance in the first inning. Now 1-1 count.

2-1 count on Cozart. Votto on deck of course.

Just out at first on a chopper to Polanco. Too bad.

[KYRedsFan]

damn damn damn

[_Sir_Charles_]

DAMN! Close play at 1st but a really nice pick and throw by Polanco. Double-damn!

[Matt700wlw]

5 LOB in 2 at bats.

[OGB]

I know they've had a lot of high scoring games this year, but this team still struggles way too much with hitting wRISP

[Maker_84]

5 LOB in 2 at bats.

thats reds baseball

[Kc61]

42 pitches for LeBlanc through two innings. I hate games when you have to focus on the opposing pitcher's pitch count.

Reds with three hits and two walks in the first two innings and nothing on the scoreboard.

[OGB]

Remember when the Reds had a pitching staff full of guys that could barely throw strikes at a 55% clip? I love how much control this staff exhibits.

[Kc61]

Arroyo gives up nothing in the third. On to the bottom of the third.

[Maker_84]

Remember when the Reds had a pitching staff full of guys that could barely throw strikes at a 55% clip? I love how much control this staff exhibits.

would u say they're the best starting staff we've ever had in cincinnati?

[Tom Servo]

Remember when we almost got Juan Pierre? There was a non-move I was thrilled to see not happen.

[Kc61]

Remember when the Reds had a pitching staff full of guys that could barely throw strikes at a 55% clip? I love how much control this staff exhibits.

The starting pitching is on fire right now, Reds need to pick up wins.

Bullpen hasn't been that good so far, at some point the pen will get going.

But it's a shame to waste starting pitching like this, like last night.

[Matt700wlw]

BOOM goes Votto!!

:jump:

[Hillsdale87]

Votto looked good on that swing!!

[Maker_84]

nice job joe

[Gizmo]

Votto! :jump:

[757690]

So is Votto paid to do that?

[Kc61]

Remember when we almost got Juan Pierre? There was a non-move I was thrilled to see not happen.

Home run Votto. First point.

Pierre had a .350 plus OBP last season for the Phils. Reds lacked left handed hitting. It was only a year end move, Pierre would have been a free agent anyway.

I'm sorry they didn't acquire him at year end 2012.

Strike one to Phillips.

[Jamz]

Votto mad. ;)

[Tom Servo]

Pierre had a .350 plus OBP last season for the Phils. Reds lacked left handed hitting. It was only a year end move, Pierre would have been a free agent anyway.

I'm sorry they didn't acquire him at year end 2012.

True, but on the other hand, Juan Pierre basically sucks.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud, I missed the dinger.

[Jamz]

Anyone remember two years ago when Arroyo was the worst pitcher in baseball? I don't.

[Raisor]

His name is Joe, and HE IS CANADIAN!

[_Sir_Charles_]

IF single...at least it should be.

[Kc61]

It's hard to argue that Votto's injury is huring him this year. His two homers have been shots, he pulled them both. Last year, after the injury, he didn't do that.

Hit for Phillips.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Okay, time for Jay to get off the schnied.

[Kc61]

True, but on the other hand, Juan Pierre basically sucks.

I wouldn't have re-signed Pierre for 2013, agree.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gift strike for LeBlanc

[OGB]

would u say they're the best starting staff we've ever had in cincinnati?

I'm 31 and it's hard to compare them to the best staffs I've seen for a few reasons. The 95 staff was awesome with Smiley and Schourek, but they only had Portugal, Burba, and Wells for just over two months.
The 99 staff was great, especially after adding Guzman, but that was contingent on Villone and Parris putting up numbers they'd never come close to approaching again.

The 90 staff was likely a little better, but Armstrong did kind of fall apart in the second half, and while they generally got good production from the fifth spot, they didn't have a regular SP in that role.

This one definitely has the potential to be the best I've seen.

[Kc61]

Full count to Bruce. LeBlanc at 55 pitches.

Bruce with pop up, one out for Frazier.

[Jamz]

We just need Bruce to find some power now. He's looked very good in his plate approach, but I'd still like to see some power.

[Kc61]

I'm 31 and it's hard to compare them to the best staffs I've seen for a few reasons. The 95 staff was awesome with Smiley and Schourek, but they only had Portugal, Burba, and Wells for just over two months.
The 99 staff was great, especially after adding Guzman, but that was contingent on Villone and Parris putting up numbers they'd never come close to approaching again.

The 90 staff was likely a little better, but Armstrong did kind of fall apart in the second half, and while they generally got good production from the fifth spot, they didn't have a regular SP in that role.

This one definitely has the potential to be the best I've seen.

If the bullpen pitches up to its potential, this could be the best overall Reds staff I've seen and I'm a lot older than 31.

Of course, the Nasty Boys were fabulous, but with these starters, Marshall, Chapman, Brox, Lecure, etc., it's really a good pitching staff. Healthy, that is.

[Kc61]

1-2 on Frazier with Phillips on first and one out. Reds up by one.

Frazier fans.

Two outs. 60 pitches for LeBlanc.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Oh man....straighten THAT baby out.

[Kc61]

Heisey 0-2. Second strike was a foul home run.

[Kc61]

1-0 Reds headed for the fourth inning.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud. Shallow pop out to right for Heisey.

[Gizmo]

I can't be the only one thinking of this when I hear about LeBlanc being on the mound, can I?

http://img.movieberry.com/static/photos/26458/1_midi.jpg

[PumpFak3First]

Reds media can now stop saying Votto doesn't get paid to walk, bombs away

[Kc61]

One out, nice play by Frazier on slow tapper.

[marcshoe]

I can't be the only one thinking of this when I hear about LeBlanc being on the mound, can I?

http://img.movieberry.com/static/photos/26458/1_midi.jpg

I certainly hope so.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I love that pitch. Side arm slow bender. :O)

[Falcon7]

Great seeing Votto turn on an inside pitch that he normally takes 70% of the time when he has less that 2 strikes! :beerme:

[Kc61]

Stanton beats out another slow grounder to Frazier. One on, one out.

[Kc61]

Hanigan DP last night. Cozart pop to right in the first today with Choo on second. Cozart ground out with bags full in second. Those at bats have cost the Reds. Hopefully they can push across some more today.

Two outs, Ruggiano up, man on first.

[Kc61]

Mes makes bad throw on steal attempt and Stanton moves to third.

Full count on Ruggiano.

Ball four, first and third.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm still waiting to be impressed with Mesoraco defensively. Patiently.

[Tom Servo]

Pitching to Nick Green was definitely a better choice than giving Ruggiano something decent, good job Bronson.

[Kc61]

Choo handles the deep drive, three out, still 1-0 Reds, fourth inning.

Mes needs to atone for that throw with his upcoming at bat.

[757690]

I just heard some howls.

Seriously? 4th inning of a day game?

[Kc61]

I'm still waiting to be impressed with Mesoraco defensively. Patiently.

He's called a four inning shutout so far today. Bronson didn't fall apart pitching to Mes.

Maybe that's a start for you.

[Kc61]

Single for Mes.

[_Sir_Charles_]

He's called a four inning shutout so far today. Bronson didn't fall apart pitching to Mes.

Maybe that's a start for you.

I'm all for Mesoraco catching ALL the starters. He needs to learn all of them. This personal catcher thing isn't really a good idea. If one of the catchers gets hurt, I don't want the back up guy unfamiliar with a starter on his own staff.

And there's your atonement. :O)

[Stray]

Mes looks like a totally different guy at the plate this year.

[Kc61]

Sacrifice bunt successfully executed by Arroyo.

[Kc61]

Walk to Choo. Cozart has left a slew of guys on today, he's due here.

[Falcon7]

Welch: "He comes to play everyday"

[Kc61]

This pitcher really has Cozart tied up in knots today. 1-2 as Cozy fouls it off.

[Kc61]

Force out. Very odd play because Mes was heading back to second.

Two outs. Cozart not getting productive at bats today, huring the offense.

[Maker_84]

no runs here would be bad

[Kc61]

RBI hit for Votto.

First and third, two outs, BP up, 2-0 Reds.

I'm a huge Cozart fan but I'm not happy with him today.

[Stray]

Nice

[Gizmo]

welcome back, Votto!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Vottomatic. Heeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaack. :O)

[Maker_84]

no runs here would be bad

and thankfully joe came though

[Brutus]

But that Joey Votto isn't an elite player and he's certainly not paid to hit singles!

[jhiller21]

Everyone was calling for Joey to take a day off, and today he just turns it back on. Amazing.

[Falcon7]

That's it Joey! Screw that defensive hitting.

[Tom Servo]

scout: Wade LeBlanc has thrown 80 pitches but has plenty left in the tank, with his fastball sitting at 84 over the past 10 pitches.


Thanks MLB.com, very helpful.

[Kc61]

Have to give Mes kudos this inning. In this lineup, when the eighth hitter leads off with a hit, things happen.

Phillips 1-2 count. Now ball 2.

LeBlanc with 83 pitches in the fourth inning.

Brandon fouls it off. Tough two strike hitter.

Brandon pops up. 2-0 through 4.

[Kc61]

Cozart with 6 men left on base in through four innings.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'll give him kudos for the hit....but he loses some for that baserunning. No clue what he was thinking on that one.

Btw...sorry, it sounds like I'm piling on Mesoraco. I'm not trying to. I like Mes, I really do. But he does have some things he needs to work on still.

[Kc61]

Everyone was calling for Joey to take a day off, and today he just turns it back on. Amazing.

Notice that Votto pulled the ball on his two RBI hits, including the homer. Maybe part of the problem has been too much of this opposite field jazz.

Lead off double for the Marlins in the fifth.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jim Day. :clap: :clap: Nice.

[Kc61]

I'll give him kudos for the hit....but he loses some for that baserunning. No clue what he was thinking on that one.

Btw...sorry, it sounds like I'm piling on Mesoraco. I'm not trying to. I like Mes, I really do. But he does have some things he needs to work on still.

Yeah, but that baserunning mistake had no effect.

Now it's first and third as the Marlins have a single to right. Double was by Olivo, single by Solano.

Pitcher coming out for a pinch hitter.

This inning is trouble with the bottom of the order with lead off hits.

[Kc61]

Lefty Mahoney is up with first and third. 1-1 count.

Single up the middle. 2-1 game, first and second.

Arroyo has come out with nothing in the fifth.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yeah, but that baserunning mistake had no effect.


True, but that was mostly due to a mistake by the Marlins. A good defensive team would've taken advantage of that mistake.

[Tom Servo]

uh oh

[Kc61]

Pierre is up. Double play. Good play Frazier on soft liner.

Just incredibly irritating that the Reds only have two runs here.

Now two outs.

[Kc61]

True, but that was mostly due to a mistake by the Marlins. A good defensive team would've taken advantage of that mistake.

Mesoraco is a very young player. He will make mistakes. Hanigan was no great shakes as a rookie -- which functionally Mes still is. Give him time, he has a lot of talent.

0-2 on Polanco. Two outs, one run lead for the Reds.

Tie game on a double by Polanco on an 0-2 pitch.

[Tom Servo]

blergh

[Maker_84]

when the reds blow chances to score runs you always have to count on the other team gaining momentum from it

[Gizmo]

And we just can't put away a bad team :(

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud. Tie game.

[Kc61]

Stanton up now. Arroyo noticeably being hit more solidly this inning. Stanton pops up.

2-2 bottom five.

[Falcon7]

What a lollipop Bronson... :confused:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Mesoraco is a very young player. He will make mistakes. Hanigan was no great shakes as a rookie -- which functionally Mes still is. Give him time, he has a lot of talent.

Don't worry, we agree. Mes is the future for this club I have no doubt.

[_Sir_Charles_]

We've had guys on base all day. Don't worry, we'll break thru in a big way today. And I certainly trust our pen and defense more than the Fish's.

[Kc61]

when the reds blow chances to score runs you always have to count on the other team gaining momentum from it

For sure. Also, Bronson has to get the bottom of the Marlins order out. The seventh and eighth hitters set up that fifth inning rally.

Marlins lineup isn't good enough to give up hits to bottom of the order when they start off an inning.

New pitcher for the Marlins. Koehler from the Bronx. Big right hander throws two balls to Bruce to begin the fifth.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Koehler in for Miami. And that's Bruce Kc. :O)

[Kc61]

Bruce walks on a close pitch. Do they pay Jay to walk?

Now Frazier is up.

[Maker_84]

for a team full of supposed AAA hitters the marlins have had clutch hits this series

[OGB]

I don't like Bruce laying off a 3-0 pitch against a rookie reliever. Still, nice walk on 3-2. I'd like to see Bruce steal against Olivo's rag arm.
...or not if he can't throw strikes

[Kc61]

Getting down in the lineup wonder if Dusty will get a reliever up.

2-1 on Frazier.
3-1 on Frazier.
3-2 on Frazier.

Double play, strike out, throw out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I don't like Bruce laying off a 3-0 pitch against a rookie reliever. Still, nice walk on 3-2. I'd like to see Bruce steal against Olivo's rag arm.
...or not if he can't throw strikes

Okay, you're voted off the island.

[OGB]

Crud. Good throw and an awful jump.

[Maker_84]

marlins have ALL the momentum now

[Maker_84]

jay bruce is an elite talent but his speed is not apart of it

[TheBigLebowski]

If we lose 2 out of 3 to the freaking Marlins..at home..blech. I'm going to stick my head in a toilet.

[Kc61]

Koehler seems to have good stuff, although perhaps not good control.

0-2 on Heisey.
1-2 on Heisey.
2-2 on Heisey.
3-2 on Heisey.

Heisey safe at first on grounder to short. Argument whether Heisey was tagged.

Now call is overruled, he is out.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

If we lose 2 out of 3 to the freaking Marlins..at home..blech. I'm going to stick my head in a toilet.

Difficult in a 4 game series.

[Kc61]

This kind of game is so typical for the Reds. Miss early opportunities. Take a lead which should be a bigger lead. Other team comes back.

I've seen this show so many times I'm surprised when it goes differently.

[OGB]

Okay, you're voted off the island.

I was just looking at Olivo's career numbers. I'm not sure why I was under the impression he had a poor arm. I was wrong he's been consistently a bit above league average.

[TheBigLebowski]

Difficult in a 4 game series.

No it's not. After today we will have played 3 games against them. If we lose this affair, we will have lost two (2) of three (3) said games.

Sorry, but if you're going to be caustic with me, I will return the favor.

[Kc61]

I was just looking at Olivo's career numbers. I'm not sure why I was under the impression he had a poor arm. I was wrong he's been consistently a bit above league average.

Excellent arm, which he showed this spring. Very accurate. Offensively, has power. Doesn't hit often, though.

Easy inning for Arroyo in the sixth. 2-2 headed to bottom six.

Wonder if Arroyo will hit when his turn comes this inning.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

No it's not. After today we will have played 3 games against them. If we lose this affair, we will have lost two (2) of three (3) said games.

Sorry, but if you're going to be caustic with me, I will return the favor.

And I welcome it. ;)

It should be noted the Reds are already into the Marlins bullpen, and the score is tied. Yes it stinks they left a small village on the basepaths, but I like the chances to get this one today.

And Arroyo gets the side out in 8 pitches. That'll work.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 for Bronson.

[TheBigLebowski]

and i welcome it. ;)

it should be noted the reds are already into the marlins bullpen, and the score is tied. Yes it stinks they left a small village on the basepaths, but i like the chances to get this one today.

And arroyo gets the side out in 8 pitches. That'll work.

morbo shall see that the reds score 4 in the 6th.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I still think we win this one by a considerable margin.

[Kc61]

Mesoraco is up against Koehler.

Now hitting .316. Just so we don't get too happy, he begins in a hole, 0-2. Then flies to right.

[Kc61]

Two Reds outs as Arroyo flies to deep right.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bronson gives it a ride....fly out just shy of the track.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Choo trying to bunt for a hit. Color me surprised.

[Kc61]

This Koehler fellow has good stuff. Choo with a full count, then walks.

[Kc61]

Choo is always on base. Unreal.

Now Cozart is up.

Cozart bounces into a force play. Cozart should ask for the rest of the day off, go home, and lie down for awhile.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Choo is always on base. Unreal.

Now Cozart is up.

Cozart bounces into a force play. Cozart should ask for the rest of the day off, go home, and lie down for awhile.

Whatever Joey did last night, Cozy should do that.

[Vottomatic]

Whatever Joey did last night, Cozy should do that.

Joey slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Whatever Joey did last night, Cozy should do that.

You say that like Cozart has been struggling recently? He's hit the ball 4 times today and it's found fielders each time.

Over the past week he's 12 for 30 (.400) with 7 runs scored. 2 dingers & 5 ribeyes. He's the least of my concerns especially when I'm looking for him to be glove first.

[Kc61]

Big inning here. Olivo and bottom of the order. Arroyo needs to mow them down. Can't allow the bottom to get on.

Olivo flies out to Choo, but it was a real mess up out there. Choo wound up running in at full speed and barely made the catch while sliding down.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Well, that was interesting. Choo needs to call for that more emphatically.

[Vottomatic]

2 Down.

[Kc61]

You say that like Cozart has been struggling recently? He's hit the ball 4 times today and it's found fielders each time.

Over the past week he's 12 for 30 (.400) with 7 runs scored. 2 dingers & 5 ribeyes. He's the least of my concerns especially when I'm looking for him to be glove first.

Today Cozart is 0 for 4 with seven men left on base. That's what he was referring to.

It's not real good to leave seven men on base in one game.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

You say that like Cozart has been struggling recently? He's hit the ball 4 times today and it's found fielders each time.

Over the past week he's 12 for 30 (.400) with 7 runs scored. 2 dingers & 5 ribeyes. He's the least of my concerns especially when I'm looking for him to be glove first.

I wasn't going that deep, more of a tongue-in-cheek comment. Votto looked lost last night, today - not so much. Therefore...

[_Sir_Charles_]

Today Cozart is 0 for 4 with seven men left on base. That's what he was referring to.

It's not real good to leave seven men on base in one game.

I know. Some of that is just bad luck though. He hasn't had bad AB's at all today.


I wasn't going that deep, more of a tongue-in-cheek comment. Votto looked lost last night, today - not so much. Therefore...

No biggie.

Bronson looking good after his one poor inning.

[Kc61]

Austin Kearns up. Ray King stories being told by Kelch.

Strike out, nice inning for Arroyo.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

I know. Some of that is just bad luck though. He hasn't had bad AB's at all today.

Fair enough - tough to tell those things just listening to Marty and Jeff.

[Red Raindog]

I'm at work following on MLB Gameday -- it says BA is throwing 89 in the 7th inning -- close to right?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Seems about right. He's been all over the place velocity-wise as usual. But he can get to 90 when he needs/wants to.

[Kc61]

I know. Some of that is just bad luck though. He hasn't had bad AB's at all today.



No biggie.

Bronson looking good after his one poor inning.

I think all of Cozart's at bats today have been bad ones. In the first inning, the Reds probably score if he moves the runner. Routine grounders with men on base in other at bats.

Four times he hit with men on. Nothing close to a hit.

Votto up. Lefty in to face him.

[Kc61]

Bloop single for Votto, in front of Juan Pierre in left.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I think all of Cozart's at bats today have been bad ones. In the first inning, the Reds probably score if he moves the runner. Routine grounders with men on base in other at bats.

Four times he hit with men on. Nothing close to a hit.

Votto up. Lefty in to face him.

My point was he wasn't swinging at bad balls, he wasn't letting meatballs sail past, he worked the count decently. Sometimes those ground balls get through, sometimes they don't. If a couple of them get through, nobody would be saying anything. A good ab doesn't have to result in a hit everytime IMO.

[Kc61]

Phillips, Bruce and Frazier with a chance now with Votto's hit. No outs.

1-1 on Phillips.

Phillips ultimately strikes out swinging.

[Kc61]

My point was he wasn't swinging at bad balls, he wasn't letting meatballs sail past, he worked the count decently. Sometimes those ground balls get through, sometimes they don't. If a couple of them get through, nobody would be saying anything. A good ab doesn't have to result in a hit everytime IMO.

Yeah, but he hasn't hit the ball sharply. A couple of times he seemed overanxious. No productive outs. Just a bad day for Cozart IMO.

Bruce hits it in the corner. Votto held at third, he would have scored IMO.

[Tom Servo]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuce

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice Jay! Odd that they held him. It looked like Joey should've scored there.

[kbrake]

Sure looked like Speier may have screwed up on that one. Am I crazy or did that look like Votto should have scored on that?

[Kc61]

New pitcher coming in. Gee, I thought Votto could have scored easily on that double. Only watching on TV. Thought Speier was too conservative there.

[TeamBoone]

Seems like when Joey is going well, Brandon isn't. They rarely seem to be hitting well at the same time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Agree to disagree Kc on Cozart. I've seen 2 decently struck balls from him today and 2 weakly hit balls.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Qualls coming in.

[Kc61]

Agree to disagree Kc on Cozart. I've seen 2 decently struck balls from him today and 2 weakly hit balls.

I'll drop it. But I can't excuse a guy for leaving 7 men on base. And when Choo was on second with no out, didn't move him over.

New pitcher is Chad Qualls. He was tough last night.

Frazier up in a key situation.

[Kc61]

Walking Frazier to pitch to Heisey with the bases loaded. Do you go to XPaul? Will they counter with a lefty? If so, do you go to Derrick Robinson?

[kbrake]

Chris Heisey is awful.

[Stray]

Lol

[_Sir_Charles_]

OMG. Infield fly rule. Sheesh.

[Kc61]

Chris Heisey is awful.

Cozart is now my second place goat in this game. Heisey swinging at the first pitch AGAIN to no avail AGAIN.

[757690]

First pitch swinging on a tough pitch to hit.

Brilliant!

[kbrake]

No excuse for Heisey to be playing this much. If you don't want to start Paul against LHP give the Robinson kid some time.

[Gizmo]

we've now stranded like 100 men on base this game.

[kbrake]

This is sad. I'm not usually one to get negative but the Reds are begging for a loss.

[Tom Servo]

for gods sake Reds

[jhiller21]

Ugh... Qualls has always had our number.

[TheBigLebowski]

This team is beyond frustrating. If I never see Heisey play again it'll be too soon.

[RedsBrick]

Well, that was a wasted opportunity.

[Stray]

Lotta wasted opportunities today.

[_Sir_Charles_]

*sigh* well, that sucked. Mes strikes out looking outmatched.

[harangatang]

No excuse for Heisey to be playing this much. If you don't want to start Paul against LHP give the Robinson kid some time.If Heisey gets his chance now and fails, it's out of the way early in the season. That's much better than later in the year.

[kbrake]

I have no problem with Heisey coming off the bench in that 4th/5th OF role but playing him 5 times a week is insane. He has had chances before and this is exactly what we have seen from him before.

[Kc61]

Mes fans, Reds don't score.

Reds don't deserve to win ballgames if they keep letting Chris Heisey hit in important situations.

As far as I'm concerned, his 2013 trial run is over.

He's not a major league hitter. He swings at literally everything.

He's gone from hitting second to hitting seventh. IMO he should be cut.

Derrick Robinson can win you games with his speed. XPaul gets hot against righties.

I'm done with Heisey. Period.

[NebraskaRed]

Clearly the Reds are just trying to accumulate the most men left on base as possible so that they can then....oh hell, I don't know. They really need to work on this

[Redhook]

This team is beyond frustrating. If I never see Heisey play again it'll be too soon.

I agree. I've said this a few times before, but Heisey has the lowest baseball IQ of any Red I've ever seen. It's incredible how he has no clue what to do.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bright side....

Votto 3 for 4. Choo on base 4 times. Mesoraco 2 for 4. Bronson very solid start.

[malcontent]

This team is beyond frustrating. If I never see Heisey play again it'll be too soon.
Baker's apparently saving Paul for the lefty Dunn.

Just like he did in Game 5 of the NLDS (Affeldt).

I thought he had PH Paul for Heisey once or twice before?

[kbrake]

Thankfully Stanton decided to do his best Heisey impersonation and Arroyo goes 8 without imploding at the end.

[Brutus]

I have no problem with Heisey coming off the bench in that 4th/5th OF role but playing him 5 times a week is insane. He has had chances before and this is exactly what we have seen from him before.

Um, no it isn't anything like what we've seen from him. His career OPS is .735. Right now his OPS is .458. He's playing nothing like his career numbers at the moment.

Some of it has to do with a near .200 BABIP.

[Maker_84]

I have no problem with Heisey coming off the bench in that 4th/5th OF role but playing him 5 times a week is insane. He has had chances before and this is exactly what we have seen from him before.

not just him, the entire team doesnt produce late in games in 1 run or tie games. Almost looks like they're incapable. Either they're scoring alot or not at all and that's not a recipe for success

[_Sir_Charles_]

:clap: :clap: Bronson Arroyo. 8 ip, 2 hits, 2 runs, 1 bb, 6 k's.

Now let's get him a W.

[malcontent]

I agree. I've said this a few times before, but Heisey has the lowest baseball IQ of any Red I've ever seen. It's incredible how he has no clue what to do.
No argument there. Well, no current Red (Stubbs).

If Baker had to stay with Heisey (instead of Paul) at least make him put down a squeeze bunt.

I think he could manage that, he's a decent bunter.

[Kc61]

Have to leave the game thread. Final words.

Last year when Heisey filled in for Stubbs I found myself wanting Stubbs back.

He cannot hit major league pitching. It's as simple as that.

The Reds should just cut him loose.

[NebraskaRed]

Very nice job by Arroyo. Latos deserved the win yesterday and didn't get it. Let's hope Arroyo gets his today.

[dsmith421]

not just him, the entire team doesnt produce late in games in 1 run or tie games. Almost looks like they're incapable. Either they're scoring alot or not at all and that's not a recipe for success

Prove it. The Reds were 31-21 in one-run games last year. They won almost 50 games coming from behind. The constant whining and crying is making this board almost unreadable. It's like people have never followed a baseball season before.

[kbrake]

Um, no it isn't anything like what we've seen from him. His career OPS is .735. Right now his OPS is .458. He's playing nothing like his career numbers at the moment.

Some of it has to do with a near .200 BABIP.

I didn't mean we are seeing his career normal. I meant we are seeing what we have seen from Heisey in other situations where he has been given a chance to play for a couple weeks at a time. And admittedly I could be wrong on that but certainly feels like he has always struggled when given a chance to play.

[Brutus]

Have to leave the game thread. Final words.

Last year when Heisey filled in for Stubbs I found myself wanting Stubbs back.

He cannot hit major league pitching. It's as simple as that.

The Reds should just cut him loose.

That's baloney. You don't have a .735 OPS in the majors in nearly 1,000 plate appearances if you can't hit Major League pitching.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bronson done. Derrick Robinson ph'ing. AJ Ramos on the bump.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Robinson out bunting. Once he bunted he just stood there and looked at it for a sec. He would've been out either way, but it did look kinda odd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chappy warming.

[kbrake]

Choo is a stud.

[_Sir_Charles_]

5 times on base for Choo. 2 for 2 with 3 walks. That'll work.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That looked like a strike. 1-1.

[kbrake]

Cozart has definitely had better days.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Damn. Cozart overmatched there. K's looking. 2 down for Votto.

[kbrake]

That 0-1 pitch looked away.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ramos looks tough. Going right after Votto.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Tapper to first. Votto tagged out. 2-2 it stays.

[Maker_84]

Prove it. The Reds were 31-21 in one-run games last year. They won almost 50 games coming from behind. The constant whining and crying is making this board almost unreadable. It's like people have never followed a baseball season before.

last year has nothing to do with this year

[Gizmo]

well, so much for this one, we haven't won a walkoff game yet this year, though we've lost 3 when tied in the 9th or later at home already this year.

[kbrake]

Been a couple of frustrating games for the Reds, really need to find a way to steal this one.

[757690]

That's baloney. You don't have a .735 OPS in the majors in nearly 1,000 plate appearances if you can't hit Major League pitching.

His OPS might be .735, but his baseball IQ is closer to 53.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chapman in. Dobbs, Ruggiano, Green

[malcontent]

Have to leave the game thread. Final words.

Last year when Heisey filled in for Stubbs I found myself wanting Stubbs back.

He cannot hit major league pitching. It's as simple as that.

The Reds should just cut him loose.

Probably. It's not as if they're gonna get anything valuable back for him.

[kbrake]

last year has nothing to do with this year

Why? It is pretty close to the same team...

[757690]

Probably. It's not as if they're gonna get anything valuable back for him.

Yes they will. He will no longer be making stupid mistakes that costs the Reds games.

[dsmith421]

last year has nothing to do with this year

Then stop crying until there's enough sample size to draw conclusions.

[RedsfaninMT]

well, so much for this one, we haven't won a walkoff game yet this year, though we've lost 3 when tied in the 9th or later at home already this year.

Hmm...I thought we just won that suspended game restart in the bottom of the 9th on a bases loaded Jay Bruce single to right?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wow. Nasty. Backdoor slider. SIT DOWN!

[_Sir_Charles_]

LOL. Juuuuuuuuust a bit high. :O)