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NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 11:25 AM
Reds:

Choo 8
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Heisey 7
Hannahan 5
Mesoraco 2
Leake RHP

Nationals:

Span 8
Espinosa 4
Harper 7
Werth 9
LaRoche 3
Desmond 6
Rendon 5
Suzuki 2
Haren 1

The Reds are going to get more than 1 hit today, I can feel it. 2, maybe 3? Heck, maybe even 4 big hits!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 12:15 PM
Has Choo or Votto had a day off yet? Both could probably use one. Votto to screw on his head right and Choo to put some ice on all his bruises.

RedsBrick
04-27-2013, 12:41 PM
This is just too easy and it's beating a long since dead horse, but I can't control myself! What in the world is Heisey doing in the 6? The guy has only 3 more hits than Mesoraco in double the at bats. Oh, and this is above and beyond the obvious question of what is Heisey doing in the line-up. Is there shame in starting Paul two games in a row?

Come on, Baker. Put a line-up out there that gives your team the best chance to win, particularly since you're standing at 1-7 on the road.

thatcoolguy_22
04-27-2013, 12:58 PM
Has Mesoraco batted anywhere other than 8th this year?

Red Raindog
04-27-2013, 01:06 PM
Has Mesoraco batted anywhere other than 8th this year?

yes

1940757690
04-27-2013, 01:17 PM
Warmest, sunniest day of the year yet here in DC. This is a day for us. That's no empty assertion:


Reds:

Choo 8
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Heisey 7
Hannahan 5
Mesoraco 2
Leake RHP

Nationals:

Span 8
Espinosa 4
Harper 7
Werth 9
LaRoche 3
Desmond 6
Rendon 5
Suzuki 2
Haren 1

The Reds are going to get more than 1 hit today, I can feel it. 2, maybe 3? Heck, maybe even 4 big hits!

I say 6 minimum. It's going to be a good day.


This is just too easy and it's beating a long since dead horse, but I can't control myself! What in the world is Heisey doing in the 6? The guy has only 3 more hits than Mesoraco in double the at bats. Oh, and this is above and beyond the obvious question of what is Heisey doing in the line-up. Is there shame in starting Paul two games in a row?

Come on, Baker. Put a line-up out there that gives your team the best chance to win, particularly since you're standing at 1-7 on the road.

Have to agree wholeheartedly with you, RedsBrick. But no negativity for me right now. Off to the park. We will win.

- Rendon will be strong in the future. In today for the Nats in place of Lombo likely hurts the still shaky O

- Haren. Enough said. If we can't smack him around, we don't deserve to be playing until we reset in some way.

- Only prescription aside from the above? Hold Harper. Don't let him beat us. Walk him as needed.

That is all. Win, baby, win...

RedsBrick
04-27-2013, 01:24 PM
Warmest, sunniest day of the year yet here in DC. This is a day for us. That's no empty assertion:



I say 6 minimum. It's going to be a good day.



Have to agree wholeheartedly with you, RedsBrick. But no negativity for me right now. Off to the park. We will win.

- Rendon will be strong in the future. In today for the Nats in place of Lombo likely hurts the still shaky O

- Haren. Enough said. If we can't smack him around, we don't deserve to be playing until we reset in some way.

- Only prescription aside from the above? Hold Harper. Don't let him beat us. Walk him as needed.

That is all. Win, baby, win...

I can dig it! I'm ok now, just had to vent for a bit. Enjoy the day and bring us home a dub!

Mitri
04-27-2013, 01:46 PM
Has Choo or Votto had a day off yet? Both could probably use one. Votto to screw on his head right and Choo to put some ice on all his bruises.

Tomorrow vs. Detwiler would be a good time to rest Choo. Can't wait to see the Sunday special in store for us!

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:02 PM
Choo had a day off against the Phillies 10 days ago.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:09 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 on 10 pitches. Picking right up where they left off last night.

leeech86
04-27-2013, 02:12 PM
Leake might get a couple hits for us today;)

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 02:22 PM
a hit!

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:22 PM
A hit. Phillips singles to left.

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 02:23 PM
guess this one's done now. :D

mth123
04-27-2013, 02:24 PM
guess this one's done now. :D

Nope Bomb coming. I'm calling it.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:25 PM
Bruce fouls out to the catcher

mth123
04-27-2013, 02:26 PM
Oh well. Wrong again.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:27 PM
Brutal. No score after 1 1/2.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:28 PM
Frazier grounds into a DP. 0-0 mid 2nd.

mth123
04-27-2013, 02:28 PM
Frazier grounds into a DP. 0-0 mid 2nd.

Heisey.

mth123
04-27-2013, 02:29 PM
Looked like Heisey tweeked a hammy.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:31 PM
Two walks in 1.1 IP for Leake already. Not gonna be a good day for him if that continues.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:35 PM
And another walk. Two on, one out. I can't wait for Cueto to return.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:35 PM
Another walk. 1st and 2nd.

leeech86
04-27-2013, 02:35 PM
I dont know where that pitch missed...

Red Raindog
04-27-2013, 02:38 PM
Another walk. 1st and 2nd.

can't blame the pitchers for pitching scared

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:40 PM
Haren singles in a run. That's what happens when you walk 3 batters in 1.2 innings.

LexRedsFan
04-27-2013, 02:43 PM
2-0? Game over. Haha.

R_Webb18
04-27-2013, 02:43 PM
2-0

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 02:44 PM
hope we have some runs in us today.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:44 PM
Safe to say this game is over? 2-0 Nationals and still threatening.

R_Webb18
04-27-2013, 02:44 PM
This stretch is not fun.

holster10
04-27-2013, 02:44 PM
Down 2-0 already, you can cash this one in.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:45 PM
After the way the Reds played against the Marlins and Cubs, it was easy to see this was going to be a brutal road trip.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:45 PM
Span singles to center. 2-0 Nationals

PuffyPig
04-27-2013, 02:45 PM
2-0? Game over. Haha.

Thanks for coming.......

holster10
04-27-2013, 02:47 PM
the Reds offense is a complete laugher right now....hardly anyone is having a quality AB.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:47 PM
Espinosa pops out to 1st. 2-0 Nationals after 2.

Wonderful Monds
04-27-2013, 02:48 PM
Oh cool, an out already.

holster10
04-27-2013, 02:49 PM
At first I thought the Reds were truly facing great pitching performances this week, but I think it's as much a product of how ice cold the Reds offense as anything....

holster10
04-27-2013, 02:50 PM
Mesoraco is the one Reds player with consistently good AB's this week....

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:51 PM
Mesoraco strikes out swinging. 2outs.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 02:51 PM
Mesoraco gets ahead 3-0. Reds might get a baserunner. Nope. He's K's. Reds aren't even hitting balls hard.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:52 PM
Another strikeout. 2-0 Nationals mid 3rd.

leeech86
04-27-2013, 02:55 PM
When was the last time the reds has 3 consecutive 1 hitters?

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:55 PM
Harper singles

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 02:59 PM
Good effort by Cozart but an infield hit.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:01 PM
LaRoche flies out to left

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:02 PM
Desmond singles to center. 3-0 Nationals

Billy Hamilton's Legs
04-27-2013, 03:03 PM
a couple balls squeaking through the gaps. regardless, leake doesnt look good today. paging alfredo simon

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:04 PM
Rendon strikes out looking.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:05 PM
Ugh. Hannahan makes a diving stop then throws the ball into right field. 4-0 Nationals.

holster10
04-27-2013, 03:06 PM
Wow, the wheels have really fallen off the Little Red Wagon.

leeech86
04-27-2013, 03:07 PM
I don't say this much, but thank god I have to go to work.

OnBaseMachine
04-27-2013, 03:08 PM
The Reds went 8-2 against the Phillies, Marlins, and Cubs. They struggled in two games against Philly, struggled in two against the Marlins, and all three against the Cubs could have went either way. It wasn't hard to see this being a brutal road trip for the Reds with the way they were playing. This just isn't a very good team right now. They can't hit, and the defense has been terrible as of late.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:08 PM
71 pitches after THREE. Not good.

I'm here now....we can now officially fire up the offense. Thanks for waiting. :O)

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:12 PM
Heisey left game with strained right hamstring. I'd say we're not avoiding the injury bug like last year. Yuck.

holster10
04-27-2013, 03:12 PM
Reds will desperately miss Heisey's offense.....

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:16 PM
Votto with a double to left. There we go!

Wow, that's only Joey's SECOND double of the YEAR!?!

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 03:16 PM
wooo! 2 hits! now we can be no hit tomorrow and make our 4 game quota!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:17 PM
Single to left for Phillips. Votto scores! 1-4 Nats.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 03:17 PM
Votto with a double to left. There we go!

Wow, that's only Joey's SECOND double of the YEAR!?!

WOW, 3 hits and a RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New York Red
04-27-2013, 03:17 PM
We scored a run! :eek:

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 03:17 PM
oh thank god it isn't another shutout. At least there's that

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:18 PM
Reds finally score on a Votto double and Phillips single.

ProfessorTofty
04-27-2013, 03:18 PM
Whew! Thank goodness. I'm not normally a doom-and-gloom type, but I was beginning to worry we were going to be one-hit again.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:19 PM
Jay k's to end the rally.

RollyInRaleigh
04-27-2013, 03:20 PM
Haren Getting Pitches That Leake Is not.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:21 PM
Simon in for Leake. Was Leake that bad? Seems like a quick hook.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:23 PM
Simon greeted with a Span single past Phillps
FC to Votto, Span out at 2nd. Espinosa at 1st.

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:23 PM
Span hit and a Espinosa hits into a 3-6 FC

Kc61
04-27-2013, 03:23 PM
Jay k's to end the rally.

Bruce is having just a miserable April for a player of his caliber.

Most of the other main hitters have had their good streaks although a few have cooled off lately.

Guys like Cozart and Heisey haven't hit but the expectations on them were pretty low.

Bruce, though, wow. 35 Ks in April. Wow.

texasdave
04-27-2013, 03:25 PM
Nobody puts Baby in the corner three games in a row. Reds on the board!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:25 PM
Harper...gone. #9. 6-1

Reds Fanatic
04-27-2013, 03:26 PM
This has turned ugly. A long homer by Harper. 6-1 Nationals.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 03:26 PM
Votto with a double to left. There we go!

Wow, that's only Joey's SECOND double of the YEAR!?!

Really is hard to believe after 25 games or so, on pace for 6 for the year.

And now it's 6 to 1. :(

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:27 PM
Single up the middle by Werth. Was Leake worse than this? Really?

R_Webb18
04-27-2013, 03:27 PM
Harper only 20. Pretty amazing.

Kc61
04-27-2013, 03:28 PM
Simon in for Leake. Was Leake that bad? Seems like a quick hook.

I don't get this either.

I thought the Reds would have a tough April given their schedule, but following them right now is painful.

RollyInRaleigh
04-27-2013, 03:29 PM
Commentator Said Harper Was Up There To Do Damage. Not Looking To Get To First Base on A Walk. That's Bound To Excite Some Folks.

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 03:29 PM
Well, this sucks.

RollyInRaleigh
04-27-2013, 03:29 PM
Eric Karros I Believe.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:29 PM
I thought the Reds would have a tough April given their schedule, but following them right now is painful.

I agree. But considering how many guys have struggled at the dish, the fact that we're still above .500 is a testament to just how awesome the pitching has been. That bodes VERY well for the remainder of the year IMO.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:32 PM
Hoover warming. If you're going to put in Simon this early, he HAS to go more than 1, right?

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:33 PM
Paul K's swinging. 1 down.
Hannahan IF single to 2nd. Poor throw.
Mesoraco pops out to 2nd. 2 down.
Simon hitting for himself....good idea. Team leading 1.000 batting average. :O)

Or not. Simon grounds out to 3rd. 6-1 it stays.

757690
04-27-2013, 03:34 PM
Not that it's having a big effect on the score so far, but Rob Drake has to be one of the worst umps at calling balls and strikes ever. We're talking Eric Gregg bad.

Red Raindog
04-27-2013, 03:34 PM
This stretch is not fun.

this season -- so far

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 03:36 PM
I gotta believe this is just a rough stretch, this team has too much talent to be flailing like this.

Red Raindog
04-27-2013, 03:39 PM
I gotta believe this is just a rough stretch, this team has too much talent to be flailing like this.

I'm really trying to be optimistic but I have the magnet by my desk that says "optimism is really nothing more than lying to yourself" --

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:40 PM
I'm really trying to be optimistic but I have the magnet by my desk that says "optimism is really nothing more than lying to yourself" --

You really should move that magnet to a Cubs' fans desk. :thumbup:

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:41 PM
Leadoff single to center from Rendon. Simon not really fooling many people thus far. But he IS in there for his bat afterall. .500 for the season. Dangerous.

ProfessorTofty
04-27-2013, 03:41 PM
Well, they're already doing better than yesterday, offense-wise, so I suppose that's room for hope, if nothing else.

malcontent
04-27-2013, 03:43 PM
Can we sticky the "Scouts rave about Leake" ST thread?

texasdave
04-27-2013, 03:43 PM
I'm really trying to be optimistic but I have the magnet by my desk that says "optimism is really nothing more than lying to yourself" --

You have a talking magnet? Sweet!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:43 PM
Hit and run, ground out to Cozart...only play at first. 1 down, man at 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:46 PM
So....if Heisey get's DL'd....who comes up?

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:48 PM
Fly out to Choo to end the inning. 6-1 after 5 full.

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 03:48 PM
So....if Heisey get's DL'd....who comes up?
Probably Felix Perez or Denis Phips

texasdave
04-27-2013, 03:49 PM
So....if Heisey get's DL'd....who comes up?

Let's win this game first and then we can worry about that. :)

malcontent
04-27-2013, 03:50 PM
So....if Heisey get's DL'd....who comes up?
Checking the MiLB stats....how does any sentient being place BA between SLG and OPS?

Firing offense.

Well, if BA on that site means what I think it means, Felix Perez is the only guy north of .238.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:51 PM
Thinking of the possible call-up, does it even have to be an OF'er? We've got 4 without Chris. If somebody at Louisville was tearing it up, I wouldn't hesitate, but there's nobody. I certainly don't want to bring up Hamilton with him scuffling.

I don't know anything about Felix Perez but he seems to be the most productive OF'er right now. Tough call IMO without anybody really standing out.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 03:51 PM
This is showing the difference between having your offense go cold while playing the Cubs, and having your offense go cold while playing a real team

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:52 PM
CHOO! :jump: GONE! Make that 6-2.

ProfessorTofty
04-27-2013, 03:53 PM
:) Five more like that, and nothing more given up to the Nationals, and we win.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:53 PM
Line drive single by Cozart. Looking better.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:54 PM
Zack Duke warming for the Nats.

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
Let's go Reds, can this be the big inning? Haven't seen one in about a week.

Red Raindog
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
You have a talking magnet? Sweet!

point taken -- excuse -- I'm dead tired and the Reds are not helping

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
GO! NO! Span robs Votto! Crap! Heck of a play. 1 down, Cozart retreats back to 1st.

texasdave
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
Zack Duke warming for the Nats.

They would be better off bringing in Patty Duke.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
well, darn

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 03:57 PM
needed 2 more feet :(

texasdave
04-27-2013, 03:57 PM
I think they bring up Donald Lutz. If they bring up someone not on the 40-man don't they risk losing a player?

Jamz
04-27-2013, 03:58 PM
Why couldn't we have gotten Choo and Span. :(

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 03:59 PM
dat dude dp

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Phillips hits into a dp to end the inning. #3 on the year for Brandon.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:00 PM
I think they bring up Donald Lutz. If they bring up someone not on the 40-man don't they risk losing a player?

Can Lutz play anywhere besides 1st? Not that it's a problem...just curious.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 04:01 PM
GO! NO! Span robs Votto! Crap! Heck of a play. 1 down, Cozart retreats back to 1st.

Really, robbed of what? He made a catch.
Now, if Votto had a 100% healthy meniscus... It would have been long gone.

texasdave
04-27-2013, 04:02 PM
Can Lutz play anywhere besides 1st? Not that it's a problem...just curious.

Baseball-reference.com shows Lutz has played 7 games at first and 12 in left field.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 04:03 PM
Really, robbed of what? He made a catch.
Now, if Votto had a 100% healthy meniscus... It would have been long gone.

oh good to know. I had no idea that the only reason that ball wasn't a home run was Votto's meniscus

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:03 PM
Really, robbed of what? He made a catch.
Now, if Votto had a 100% healthy meniscus... It would have been long gone.

Well, 1st off I think it probably is 100% healthy...and I think that might've been gone if Span didn't make that catch. Would've been darned close.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Baseball-reference.com shows Lutz has played 7 games at first and 12 in left field.

Thanks dave.

malcontent
04-27-2013, 04:06 PM
Well, 1st off I think it probably is 100% healthy...and I think that might've been gone if Span didn't make that catch. Would've been darned close.
It would be nice to know (if) Votto's knee is 100%. Problem is, you have to ask Votto's brain to get an answer.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 04:06 PM
oh good to know. I had no idea that the only reason that ball wasn't a home run was Votto's meniscus

That's where all your power comes from, c'mon man, everyone knows that...

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:06 PM
Harper walks. Probably not the worst idea in the world.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:08 PM
That's where all your power comes from, c'mon man, everyone knows that...

Is his meniscus also the reason he's 5th in the league in K's? Nah, I think it's something as simple as Votto's struggling.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:09 PM
Simon is all over the place. Not even close. Hoover warming again.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:09 PM
Werth walks on 4. 2 on, 1 out. Price out for a chat. "Hey, Alfredo...see that big round brown thing...it's Devin's mitt. Aim for that thing. Thanks bud."

malcontent
04-27-2013, 04:09 PM
52 pitches for Simon is enough.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:11 PM
GONE! Mesoraco nails Harper at third.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:11 PM
Grounder to Cozy to end the inning. Thanks for running out of that rally Nats. Much appreciated.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 04:11 PM
Is his meniscus also the reason he's 5th in the league in K's? Nah, I think it's something as simple as Votto's struggling.

I was being sarcastic... about his darn knee.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:14 PM
Haren done. Zach Duke in. Let's pummel him!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:14 PM
I was being sarcastic... about his darn knee.

Sorry. Didn't catch that.

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 04:14 PM
oh noez, Fox is having difficulties here outside of DC. Now I can't properly watch the Reds struggle at the plate :(

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:16 PM
Another poor throw from Espinosa. Error. Bruce to 2nd.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 04:16 PM
I'll be glad when the Reds are done with this team after tomorrow. That doesn't solve their pitching/offense issues, I'm just tired of seeing these guys

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:19 PM
Paul works the walk. 1st & 2nd, no outs for Hannahan.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:21 PM
I might have used Frazier here.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:21 PM
Still can. I bet he'll hit for the pitcher. Hannahan K's swinging. Mesoraco up.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:22 PM
There ya go. Frazier on deck.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:23 PM
Devin flies out to right. Bruce to 3rd (Paul holds). 2 down for Frazier.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:24 PM
Duke done. Clippard coming in.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:26 PM
Still can. I bet he'll hit for the pitcher. Hannahan K's swinging. Mesoraco up.

I don't know if Clippard could have been warm if you use him in Hannahan's spot. I'd rather he face Duke.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:27 PM
I don't know if Clippard could have been warm if you use him in Hannahan's spot. I'd rather he face Duke.

Fair point. He was warming for a little bit though. They probably would've stalled a bit and made the change anyway.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:29 PM
Single to left for Frazier! 6-3 now! Way to go Todd!

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 04:29 PM
DatDudeNJ

ProfessorTofty
04-27-2013, 04:31 PM
Sweet. Looking within reach...

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
3-1 to Choo. If he gets on, do you hit for Cozart? I don't.

MrRedLegger
04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
A high-intensity day game. I love it.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
Choo with the walk. 2 out, bases jacked for Cozy.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
3-1 to Choo. If he gets on, do you hit for Cozart?

but who?

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:33 PM
Cozart can run into one.....

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:33 PM
Just get it to Joe!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:34 PM
Exactly. Cozart is due. 0-3 with the bases loaded this year.

CRAP! Another nice grab by Span! Nice swing by Cozart, that was a rope. :(

Patrick Bateman
04-27-2013, 04:34 PM
Damn. Cozart deserved better there.

RiverRat13
04-27-2013, 04:34 PM
Dag. Hit on the nose.

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 04:34 PM
damn damn damn.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 04:35 PM
7 hits and 3 runs so far is frankly more than I expected from them today.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:35 PM
BABIP can be so cruel. That ball had gap written all over it.

Stray
04-27-2013, 04:35 PM
This has just been one of those series. Balls bouncing off the pitcher directly to infielders, weakly hit balls falling in for hits against us, our hard hit balls getting caught.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:37 PM
Hoover in. Frazier stays.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:40 PM
See, now if Frazier was going to stay in anyway, why not use him for Hannahan? Now Izturis or someone will have to likely bat in the 9th and Frazier will only bat if there's a long rally.

Kc61
04-27-2013, 04:40 PM
This has just been one of those series. Balls bouncing off the pitcher directly to infielders, weakly hit balls falling in for hits against us, our hard hit balls getting caught.

Yes, I'm optimistic. I sense the Reds will get their second road win sometime this spring.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:43 PM
Drew Storen warming up.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:44 PM
1-2-3 for Hoover. Outside of that first week or so of him getting used every day it seemed, he's looked considerably better. Overuse or dead-arm after long ST? Either way, nice to see him throwing better.

RedsBrick
04-27-2013, 04:44 PM
I know Cozart hit it on a line and could've gapped...but I wouldn't have minded seeing him take a strike. Pitcher just walked Choo and threw a first pitch ball to Cozart. With Votto on deck I wouldn't have minded extending that AB a little.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:46 PM
I know Cozart hit it on a line and could've gapped...but I wouldn't have minded seeing him take a strike. Pitcher just walked Choo and threw a first pitch ball to Cozart. With Votto on deck I wouldn't have minded extending that AB a little.

I understand people wanting guys to work the count...but in my mind, if you see a pitch you can really drive and it's right in your sweet spot...letting it sail past for the sake of pitch count is counter-productive.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:47 PM
I know Cozart hit it on a line and could've gapped...but I wouldn't have minded seeing him take a strike. Pitcher just walked Choo and threw a first pitch ball to Cozart. With Votto on deck I wouldn't have minded extending that AB a little.

If you get your pitch let her rip. Might have been the best one he would have got.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:48 PM
Votto grounds out to short. 1 down.

Swing looking much better today. Some well struck balls from Joey today too.

TSJ55
04-27-2013, 04:49 PM
If you barrel the ball up, there is really nothing else anyone can ask of you.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:49 PM
Storen is not keeping the ball down. Gotta take advantage.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:50 PM
Single to left for Brandon! 3-4 today. Nice.

RedsBrick
04-27-2013, 04:50 PM
I agree with the points above...and if his rope had dropped it would've been magical. I wasn't saying take for the sake of increased pitch count...just seeing if the guy could deliver multiple strikes after being rattled by an rbi single and a walk back to back. I don't blame Cozart for ripping on it, just wouldn't have minded seeing him take one considering the two previous ABs and the guy on deck.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:50 PM
Come on Jay. Time to get going bud!

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:51 PM
There we go! Single to left for Bruce.

holster10
04-27-2013, 04:51 PM
Washington announcers calling Votto a hot head and saying his behavior is inappropriate. I will say this, in an earlier Votto AB, you could hear Votto drop the F-bomb through the Washington broadcast.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:52 PM
Marshall warming up. Nice to see.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:53 PM
Crud. Paul hits into an inning ending DP.

CWRed
04-27-2013, 04:53 PM
Washington announcers calling Votto a hot head and saying his behavior is inappropriate. I will say this, in an earlier Votto AB, you could hear Votto drop the F-bomb through the Washington broadcast.

Ha ha you got to be kidding. They have met Bryce Harper right? Oh wait I guess he's just fiery. :laugh:

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 04:53 PM
ugh

Gizmo
04-27-2013, 04:54 PM
and with that, it's time to fire up the grill.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 04:54 PM
Washington announcers calling Votto a hot head and saying his behavior is inappropriate. I will say this, in an earlier Votto AB, you could hear Votto drop the F-bomb through the Washington broadcast.

Think they would care if he wearing a Washington jersey?

TheBigLebowski
04-27-2013, 04:54 PM
Although it looks like we're going to lose this one, I am encouraged by this offensive onslaught. When you score 3 runs consistently, you can expect to win almost every day.

holster10
04-27-2013, 04:54 PM
Ha ha you got to be kidding. They have met Bryce Harper right? Oh wait I guess he's just fiery. :laugh:

Not my opinion, just going with what they said.

mth123
04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
ugh

datdudexp???

Billy Hamilton's Legs
04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
cant seem to catch a break today

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
One more chance. Pitcher spot leads off the 9th (Robinson I'd assume), Mesoraco & Frazier.

Sean Marshall in for the Reds.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
and that was the last best chance to tie the game.

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
datdudexp???
X did not give it to them.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:56 PM
Lombardozzi ph'ing

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:57 PM
and that was the last best chance to tie the game.

Disagree respectfully. I like who we've got coming up in the 9th.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 04:58 PM
Lombardozzi K's. Welcome back Sean. Missed ya bud.
Span K's too.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 04:58 PM
Although it looks like we're going to lose this one, I am encouraged by this offensive onslaught. When you score 3 runs consistently, you can expect to win almost every day.

Really, just get 3 runs a game and you should win almost everyday? :confused:

MrRedLegger
04-27-2013, 04:59 PM
Did I just hear a WOO???!?

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 05:00 PM
Marshall mowing them down

jhiller21
04-27-2013, 05:00 PM
Marshall looking sharp, 2 Ks

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 05:01 PM
That looked like Carbo in Game 6. Oof. Marshall looks good.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:01 PM
1-2-3 go the Nats. Great job Marshall.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 05:02 PM
Win or lose, the Reds have shown definite improvement in this game. Sure, you can say that they still lost, and that Leake had a meltdown, but 9 hits and 3 runs, with solid work from the bullpen is a good sign.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:04 PM
Soriano in for the Nats.

Hitting for Marshall is Izturis (I would've gone Robinson, oh well).
Mesoraco
Frazier
Choo
Cozart
Votto
Phillips
Bruce

all to follow...this inning. :)

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 05:05 PM
Win or lose, the Reds have shown definite improvement in this game. Sure, you can say that they still lost, and that Leake had a meltdown, but 9 hits and 3 runs, with solid work from the bullpen is a good sign.

Two hard hit balls with good defensive plays away from winning. Sometimes you don't get the bounces. Other than Leake walking guys early this hasn't been a bad effort.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:05 PM
Izturis K's swinging. :(

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:06 PM
Two hard hit balls with good defensive plays away from winning. Sometimes you don't get the bounces. Other than Leake walking guys early this hasn't been a bad effort.

True. Simon looked pretty piss-poor too IMO though.

CWRed
04-27-2013, 05:06 PM
Soriano in for the Nats.

Hitting for Marshall is Izturis (I would've gone Robinson, oh well).

A good manager would have also. But we have Dusty. I'm sure he will say Izzy hits better days after Fridays at around 4:05 after he had a slice of pizza and the pitcher throws 94-95.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:07 PM
*sigh* Liner right at short. That was a bullet.

This offense is gonna explode soon. Big time. Maybe not today...but really positive signs today.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
04-27-2013, 05:08 PM
A good manager would have also. But we have Dusty. I'm sure he will say Izzy hits better days after Fridays at around 4:05 after he had a slice of pizza and the pitcher throws 94-95.

to be fair, he was 4-7 against soriano in his career

Billy_Bearcat
04-27-2013, 05:08 PM
Probably anecdotal, but we have to play the worst baseball when we go to DC. Do we ever win there or in Philly.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:09 PM
to be fair, he was 4-7 against soriano in his career

Didn't know that. Another reason on the long, long, LONG list of why I'm not a MLB manager.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:09 PM
Win or lose, the Reds have shown definite improvement in this game. Sure, you can say that they still lost, and that Leake had a meltdown, but 9 hits and 3 runs, with solid work from the bullpen is a good sign.

I don't know, is 2 runs in 6 innings off a guy like Haran improvement? Pretty depressing affair.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:09 PM
Todd K's swinging. Crud.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:11 PM
I don't know, is 2 runs in 6 innings off a guy like Haran improvement? Pretty depressing affair.

A guy like Haren? I know he's scuffled early this season, but it's not like this guy is a scrub. This is an excellent pitcher who's had an excellent career thus far.

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 05:11 PM
I don't know, is 2 runs in 6 innings off a guy like Haran improvement? Pretty depressing affair.

Yes, after the almost nonexistent offense lately, it is.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:11 PM
We continue to get nothing from Bruce or Frazer, and next to nothing from Joey.

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 05:12 PM
We're still bad. :(

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:13 PM
We continue to get nothing from Bruce or Frazer, and next to nothing from Joey.

Jay 1 for 4 with some hard hit balls at people lately
Frazier 1 for 2 and 2nd on the team in rbi's and leading the team in HR's
Votto 1 for 4 and POUNDED the ball today.

That's not nothing. I could agree with you on Jay to an extent. The lack of power and the really high K rate bother me more than anybody else on the team.

RedsBrick
04-27-2013, 05:14 PM
Probably anecdotal, but we have to play the worst baseball when we go to DC. Do we ever win there or in Philly.

...or STL

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 05:14 PM
We continue to get nothing from Bruce or Frazer, and next to nothing from Joey.

you do realize that Frazier was barely in the game, but in that short period of time he did get a hit and an RBI?

And Joey got a hit and a run today, and the only run (on a home run) yesterday?

ProfessorTofty
04-27-2013, 05:14 PM
And this one belongs to... the Nationals. Ergh. Well, there's still one more shot tomorrow, and at least we actually got a few on the board today...

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:14 PM
Yes, after the almost nonexistent offense lately, it is.

2 runs off of Haran, who lowered his ERA to .65 is pretty nonexistent. Nice to see BP break out, but this was a miserable effort. At least Gonzalez and Zimmerman can pitch.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 05:16 PM
I don't know, is 2 runs in 6 innings off a guy like Haran improvement? Pretty depressing affair.

I don't get this Haren sucks narrative. He's been good before. He's certainly not as bad as his numbers so far this year. High BABIP. K rate down some but not too bad. About where it was last year and the two years before when he was still above average.

_Sir_Charles_
04-27-2013, 05:18 PM
I don't get this Haren sucks narrative. He's been good before. He's certainly not as bad as his numbers so far this year. High BABIP. K rate down some but not too bad. About where it was last year and the two years before when he was still above average.

Same here. Not getting it AT ALL. Sub-par year last season. Slow start this season. But a GREAT track record for success. Cy Young votes kind of success.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 05:19 PM
Same here. Not getting it AT ALL. Sub-par year last season. Slow start this season. But a GREAT track record for success. Cy Young votes kind of success.

If he gets things turned around they have a SCARY rotation.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:19 PM
you do realize that Frazier was barely in the game, but in that short period of time he did get a hit and an RBI?

And Joey got a hit and a run today, and the only run (on a home run) yesterday?

Votto with 2 hits in his last 6 games. One hit off of a guy like Haran. Todd with 2 hits in his last 6 games. Like I said, not getting the job done.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:23 PM
Haran's ERA through 4 games was over seven.

Falcon7
04-27-2013, 05:24 PM
Jay 1 for 4 with some hard hit balls at people lately
Frazier 1 for 2 and 2nd on the team in rbi's and leading the team in HR's
Votto 1 for 4 and POUNDED the ball today.

That's not nothing. I could agree with you on Jay to an extent. The lack of power and the really high K rate bother me more than anybody else on the team.

Jay 1 for 4.
Pop up to the catcher.
Struckout.
Hit a little dribbler to 2nd, error on Espinosa.
Nice single to left center.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:28 PM
Jay 1 for 4.
Pop up to the catcher.
Struckout.
Hit a little dribbler to 2nd, error on Espinosa.
Nice single to left center.

Have we really sunk so far that we're satisfied with 1 for 4 from Votto and Bruce off of a right handed pitcher?

NebraskaRed
04-27-2013, 05:30 PM
Have we really sunk so far that we're satisfied with 1 for 4 from Votto and Bruce off of a right handed pitcher?

you do realize there are many opinions to be had that fall between "satisfied" and "nonexistent" yes?

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:32 PM
you do realize there are many opinions to be had that fall between "satisfied" and "nonexistent" yes?

Whatever gets you through the night. Pretty miserable affair.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 05:40 PM
Haran's ERA through 4 games was over seven.

Is there a point here? Surely you aren't citing that small sample as a disparagement of Dan Haren. That means nothing.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 05:48 PM
Is there a point here? Surely you aren't citing that small sample as a disparagement of Dan Haren. That means nothing.

No, it means through the first four games this year he was horrible. But congrats: I was afraid we'd go through the entire game thread w/o someone saying "small sample".

Tom Servo
04-27-2013, 05:59 PM
No, it means through the first four games this year he was horrible. But congrats: I was afraid we'd go through the entire game thread w/o someone saying "small sample".
And one of those starts was against us. Today he was better.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 06:03 PM
No, it means through the first four games this year he was horrible. But congrats: I was afraid we'd go through the entire game thread w/o someone saying "small sample".

I didn't know that was wrong to do, especially when it's true. I suppose you also think Upton is going to hit 84 home runs this year?

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 06:05 PM
I didn't know that was wrong to do, especially when it's true. I suppose you also think Upton is going to hit 84 home runs this year?

Let me be the first to say today: Its still early.

gilpdawg
04-27-2013, 07:12 PM
I apologize for the snark Muta. My allergies have me in a mood.

1940757690
04-27-2013, 07:29 PM
This was a tough loss. Yeah, yeah, much improved in important ways and some bad luck. But I wanted this one especially to give us a chance at the season series...now gone. Was a gorgeous day for some not so gorgeous ball.


Warmest, sunniest day of the year yet here in DC. This is a day for us. That's no empty assertion:



I say 6 minimum. It's going to be a good day.



Have to agree wholeheartedly with you, RedsBrick. But no negativity for me right now. Off to the park. We will win.

- Rendon will be strong in the future. In today for the Nats in place of Lombo likely hurts the still shaky O

- Haren. Enough said. If we can't smack him around, we don't deserve to be playing until we reset in some way.

- Only prescription aside from the above? Hold Harper. Don't let him beat us. Walk him as needed.

That is all. Win, baby, win...

Not sure if a RZ violation to quote onself but I'm not so proud that I called the 6-or-more-hits thing right. Implication there was that enough of 'em would be strung together to get us a freakin' win. We didn't hammer Haren We let Harper hurt us again. Haren is a guy with a record but his health was the question last year and he hasn't looked right this year in any start until, kind of, this one. The pitching today was nowhere near as good as from Gio and JZimm. Haren was hittable. More hittable than we did imho.


When was the last time the reds has 3 consecutive 1 hitters?

Sitting next to another RZer today just off the 1B/RF line, we wondered outloud about this very thing...until the second hit. :)


Win or lose, the Reds have shown definite improvement in this game. Sure, you can say that they still lost, and that Leake had a meltdown, but 9 hits and 3 runs, with solid work from the bullpen is a good sign.

Nebraska has it right. That's the spirit and all that. As disappointing as the game was today, I'm looking for Cingrani to do some amazing work tomorrow. And I'm definitely looking for and expecting us to take this division again come October.

Mutaman
04-27-2013, 08:54 PM
I apologize for the snark Muta. My allergies have me in a mood.

Nothing to apologize for buddy. Just two Redlegs fans in a bad mood after a third straight loss. Actually, you got the better of the argument. Get em tomorrow.

:beerme:

cumberlandreds
04-28-2013, 10:08 AM
It was a beautiful day for a game. Perfect weather. Too bad the Reds couldn't get the offense going quite yet. But I think its close to a big breakout. If it weren't for Span making a couple of nice catches this would have been a different game. Just some bad luck on the Reds part. The Reds do need a LF in a bad way. Heisey just isn't an everyday player and Paul is suited to be a pinch hitter but not an everyday player. I doubt that platooning these two would make difference either. Some players just aren't suited to be everyday players or even three or four times a week players.
Hopefully Cingrani can be good again today. This is big test for him. First quality opponent and first road game he's started.

_Sir_Charles_
04-28-2013, 12:54 PM
Jay 1 for 4.
Pop up to the catcher.
Struckout.
Hit a little dribbler to 2nd, error on Espinosa.
Nice single to left center.

I didn't mean necessarily THAT game only. Of the guys you listed, Jay is struggling the most. He HAS stung some balls lately that have found gloves...right now though, the K's are a concern for me. I'm wondering if he's pressing due to the entire offense struggling. Regardless, I think he'll be fine, but it sure would be nice for him to figure it out sooner rather than later.