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Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 12:20 PM
Reds lineup:

Shin-Soo Choo CF
Zack Cozart SS
Joey Votto 1B
Brandon Phillips 2B
Jay Bruce RF
Todd Frazier 3B
Xavier Paul LF
Corky Miller C
Tony Cingrani P

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 12:21 PM
Cubs lineup:

Dave Sappelt CF
Cody Ransom 3B
Anthony Rizzo 1B
Alfonso Soriano LF
Starlin Castro SS
Welington Castillo C
Scott Hairston RF
Darwin Barney 2B
Jeff Samardzija P

powersackers
05-04-2013, 12:29 PM
Over/under on Cingrani Ks today. 11. Go!

Mitri
05-04-2013, 01:07 PM
I'll take the under. My fantasy team will take the over though.

Any word on Hanigan? Seeing Corky in the lineup twice a week is making me grouchy.

NebraskaRed
05-04-2013, 01:20 PM
@johnfayman
Hanigan will likely go on a rehab assignment next week, not sure where yet. Feels good. Will see doc Monday to clear

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:00 PM
I know many here want to see Mes as much as possible, but I find it hard to pick on Dusty too much for wanting to not overwork his catchers. 3 out of every 5 is fine with me. If Mes were tearing the cover off the ball, I'd be more up in arms, but he's not...and Corky is better behind the dish than Mes IMO.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:02 PM
Cingrani is from Chi-town. Let's see how he pitches in front of his family and friends. Some guys really struggle in that situation trying too hard to impress.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:06 PM
Choo homers to left on the first pitch!!

NebraskaRed
05-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Chooooooooo!

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:07 PM
THAT is how you start a game! CHOO!!! :jump: 1-0 Reds

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Cozart pops out to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:09 PM
Sweet! 2 bagger in the LF corner for Votto.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:09 PM
Votto lines a double to left.

NebraskaRed
05-04-2013, 02:10 PM
Votto gets tired of singles and decides to double time

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:12 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:14 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging. 1-0 Reds mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:17 PM
Sappelt grounds out to 2nd.

membengal
05-04-2013, 02:19 PM
yoinks at being called a ball on the 1-2 pitch

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:20 PM
Ransom strikes out looking.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:20 PM
I was thinking to myself earlier, wow when did Ransom start playing 3rd? I remember when he was with the Cards he was exclusively in the OF, same with Toronto. Then it hit me. Cody Ransom is NOT Colby Rasmus. :O) D'oh!

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:21 PM
Rizzo is hit in the back

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:21 PM
Almost got Rizzo earlier, now he zeros in. HBP.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:23 PM
Bye bye. 2-1 Cubs. That got out of here in a hurry.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:24 PM
Soriano crushed that pitch. 2-1 Cubs.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-04-2013, 02:24 PM
he's mortal!

Tom Servo
05-04-2013, 02:25 PM
I always said that this Cingrani was a bum.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:25 PM
He's not locating the fastball as well as he has been. Could just be nerves being in Chicago.

Or he didn't get vaccinated before arriving at the ballpark. Rooks do make mistakes.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:25 PM
not much control today and simply can't throw his breaking ball. I think this is the rough start many were expecting.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:26 PM
Castro strikes out swinging. 2-1 Cubs after 1.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:26 PM
KK

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:26 PM
Well, good comeback. Hopefully he settles down some.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 02:26 PM
Awful, awful pitch selection cost the Reds two runs there. You have Rizzo 1-2, and he's obviously not seeing the fastball well, why even fool around and throw him the breaking ball? Stupid. Another fastball there and this inning would have been over.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-04-2013, 02:27 PM
Looked like soriano stood there and posed after he hit that. I guess when you rarely hit them you gotta enjoy the ones you hit.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 02:27 PM
It just made no sense to throw Rizzo a breaking ball, IMO. Go with your best pitch, the one Rizzo can't pick up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:28 PM
Well, if nothing else it doesn't look to be a pitchers duel today.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2013, 02:28 PM
Cubs hitters are sitting on the fastball. Cingrani needs to throw a lot more secondary pitches this game if he wants to survive, just to prove to the hitters that they can't just wait for the FB.

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 02:29 PM
Jay with K #44 this season.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:29 PM
Nice. Frazier is 3 for 6 against Samardzija with 2 dingers.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:31 PM
Frazier flies out to center.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:31 PM
Some good swings from Frazier there. He clearly sees the ball well from Samardzija. Flies out to deep center.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 02:32 PM
Cubs hitters are sitting on the fastball. Cingrani needs to throw a lot more secondary pitches this game if he wants to survive, just to prove to the hitters that they can't just wait for the FB.

Actually, throwing the breaking ball that inning is what cost Cingrani two runs. He mowed the first two hitters down with ease, and had Rizzo down 1-2 with two well located fastballs, then someone decided to get cute and throw a breaking ball, and it eventually cost him two runs. Stick with the fastball there and Cingrani escapes with no damage, IMO.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:33 PM
Paul lines a double to left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:34 PM
Paul shoots a double past Soriano.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:34 PM
Actually, throwing the breaking ball that inning is what cost Cingrani two runs. He mowed the first two hitters down with ease, and had Rizzo down 1-2 with two well located fastballs, then someone decided to get cute and throw a breaking ball, and it eventually cost him two runs. Stick with the fastball there and Cingrani escapes with no damage, IMO.

You can't throw the FB exclusively though. EVERY mlb hitter will catch up to it if they know it's coming.

Gallen5862
05-04-2013, 02:34 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting wlw to load up on internet radio? Its the second day in a row the site is not loading.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 02:35 PM
You can't throw the FB exclusively though. EVERY mlb hitter will catch up to it if they know it's coming.

No, but you don't just throw a breaking ball just to throw one either. There are times to mix them in. That wasn't the time. Bad pitch selecion cost the Reds two runs.

Gainesville Red
05-04-2013, 02:36 PM
Good news and bad news today.

Bad news is that I got the first DirecTV bill of the season. I forgot to cancel Extra Innings. It's on auto-renew from last season.

The good news (I guess?) is that I'm not dealing with the delay of mlb.tv today.

Tom Servo
05-04-2013, 02:36 PM
You can't throw the FB exclusively though. EVERY mlb hitter will catch up to it if they know it's coming.
Most of them haven't yet, though. :dunno:

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:38 PM
Miller strikes out looking.
Cingrani strikes out swinging. 2-1 Cubs mid 2nd.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:39 PM
No, but you don't just throw a breaking ball just to throw one either. There are times to mix them in. That wasn't the time. Bad pitch selecion cost the Reds two runs.

2 horrible pitches cost the Reds 2 runs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:39 PM
He threw 4 sliders that inning. Out of 24 pitches. The HR came on a fastball. He had a slider get away from him and plunked Rizzo. I think it's a reach to say he's behind 2-0 due to the slider and pitch selection. He didn't locate the fastball well that inning either. Who's to say that Rizzo wouldn't have gotten a hit on a fastball there?

Screwball
05-04-2013, 02:40 PM
Miller strikes out looking.
Cingrani strikes out swinging. 2-1 Cubs mid 2nd.

Paul's double would've played a lot better in front of Votto and Phillips rather than Corky and the pitcher.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:41 PM
He hits Castillo in the foot. Cingrani is wild today

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:41 PM
HBP #2. Fastball btw guys.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 02:41 PM
He threw 4 sliders that inning. Out of 24 pitches. The HR came on a fastball. He had a slider get away from him and plunked Rizzo. I think it's a reach to say he's behind 2-0 due to the slider and pitch selection. He didn't locate the fastball well that inning either. Who's to say that Rizzo wouldn't have gotten a hit on a fastball there?

He located his fastball really well against the first three hitters.

Tom Servo
05-04-2013, 02:41 PM
rut roh

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:43 PM
Hairston lines out to left

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:43 PM
He located his fastball really well against the first three hitters.

No he didn't. Sure he threw some for strikes...but he was missing his locations. Go back and look again and watch Miller's mitt. He's been all over the place with the FB today.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:44 PM
I don't have a good feeling about this one.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 02:45 PM
No he didn't. Sure he threw some for strikes...but he was missing his locations. Go back and look again and watch Miller's mitt. He's been all over the place with the FB today.

I must have been watching a different inning. He threw some great fastballs to Ranson, one of which was missed by the ump. The two fastballs to Rizzo were perfectly located.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:46 PM
Barney flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:47 PM
Samardzija strikes out swinging. 3 Ks. 2-1 Cubs after 2.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:48 PM
I must have been watching a different inning. He threw some great fastballs to Ranson, one of which was missed by the ump. The two fastballs to Rizzo were perfectly located.

They ended up in great locations. But there were several where Corky sets up outside and it's a strike on the inside edge, things like that. Great pitches in regards to the hitter...but not where they were meant to be. His location has gotten worse after the HBP.

But I'm not worried...I really think it's just nerves. He settled down there nicely that inning after the 2nd HBP.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:48 PM
Gotta feel pretty happy about only 2 runs with the way he has pitched so far.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:49 PM
They ended up in great locations. But there were several where Corky sets up outside and it's a strike on the inside edge, things like that. Great pitches in regards to the hitter...but not where they were meant to be. His location has gotten worse after the HBP.

But I'm not worried...I really think it's just nerves. He settled down there nicely that inning after the 2nd HBP.

He still threw a couple more in the dirt, got a line out that anywhere but at someone would be a double, and went 3-0 to the Cubs worst hitter. I am not sure he really settled down that much that inning.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:51 PM
BB for Choo

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:51 PM
Choo draws a leadoff walk

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 02:51 PM
Shortstop bats second.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:52 PM
A wild pickoff attempts moves Choo to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:52 PM
That'll work. Pick off attempt, bad throw. Choo to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:53 PM
Cozy with a single up the middle. 2-2

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:53 PM
Cozart singles to center. Tie game 2-2.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:54 PM
Votto lines out to left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:54 PM
Joey's zeroing in his doubles swing. Looking good. Line out to Soriano but well struck.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-04-2013, 02:54 PM
damn. that looked good coming off the bat

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:55 PM
Just off the end of the bat or that one is in the bleachers.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:56 PM
What's the deal with all the white floppy hats. I'm seeing tons of them. Giveaway promo?

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 02:56 PM
I'm not advocating this. But it wouldn't surprise me to see Soriano's name connected with the Reds at the trade deadline if the Cubs send a boatload of money.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:57 PM
Zack nearly picked off. Leaning towards 2nd.

Screwball
05-04-2013, 02:57 PM
What's the deal with all the white floppy hats. I'm seeing tons of them. Giveaway promo?

Kentucky Derby.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:57 PM
What's the deal with all the white floppy hats. I'm seeing tons of them. Giveaway promo?

It's "Look Like an Idiot Day" at Wrigley. Of course that is every day at Wrigley.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:57 PM
Philllips strikes out swinging.

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-04-2013, 02:57 PM
I hope he makes me eat crow but practically every time I see a Frazier at bat he hits a grounder to 3rd...prove me wrong, Todd

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:58 PM
Ah, derby. That makes sense. Gracias.

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 02:58 PM
Oops nevermind.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 02:58 PM
Bruce flies out to left. 2-2 mid 3rd.

scott91575
05-04-2013, 02:58 PM
Kentucky Derby.

I guess Cubs fans couldn't figure that is in Kentucky. I know that is tough considering the name.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 02:59 PM
2-2 after Jay flies out to left. Jay could use a mental day off to watch some tape. He really seems to be overthinking.

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 02:59 PM
Philllips strikes out swinging.

Maybe he shouldn't have had 2 days off. 2 at bats, 2 k's

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 03:00 PM
I hear Jay is on the hot seat this season. If it continues like this thru September, he may find himself playing for another team next year.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:02 PM
Leadoff walk to Sappelt

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:02 PM
Yessirree! Frazier to Phillips to Votto. That'll work.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:02 PM
5-4-3 DP. 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 03:04 PM
I will say this, he doesn't have the same command today that he had his previous two starts. But the fact that he's pitching so close to where he grew up could have something to do with it.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:04 PM
Rizzo with a double off the cf wall. Smoked.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:04 PM
Rizzo doubles off the wall in center.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:05 PM
Dinger #2 for Soriano. Crap. Changeup right down the middle. 4-2 Cubs.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:05 PM
Soriano hits another homer. 4-2 Cubs.

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 03:06 PM
Cingrani's one pitch selection is catching up with him.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 03:06 PM
This team is so frustrating. Loses to good teams, struggles against bad teams.

joshua
05-04-2013, 03:07 PM
I hate the Cubs. Why'd Cingrani have to pick this game to look like a rookie?

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 03:07 PM
37 year old Soriano at 375 career HR's.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:07 PM
Castro flies out to center. 4-2 Cubs after 3.

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:07 PM
Cy Young chances taking a hit today.

Vottomatic
05-04-2013, 03:07 PM
LOL. Darnell McDonald, 34 years old, is playing for the Cubs triple A affiliate.

powersackers
05-04-2013, 03:08 PM
This team is so frustrating. Loses to good teams, struggles against bad teams.

4-2 in the third is "struggling"?

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:08 PM
This team is so frustrating. Loses to good teams, struggles against bad teams.

Sometimes I think some guys on here are following the wrong sport.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:09 PM
Some really good swings off Cingrani that inning. Deep fly out to center from Castro.

Simply put, he's GOT to mix in his other pitches more. They're sitting fastball. The pitches to Soriano that ab were both changeups...I don't recall seeing him throw that pitch before. It was fat to be sure, but anybody know if it's a good pitch for him normally? I like his slider, he needs to work on it's control, but it's got a nice break.

PuffyPig
05-04-2013, 03:09 PM
This team is so frustrating. Loses to good teams, struggles against bad teams.

Hard to imagine how they won 97 games last year when they seemingly beat no one?

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 03:10 PM
4-2 in the third is "struggling"?

They've struggled against the Cubs in all five games they've played them. They struggled in two of four vs the Marlins. Were swept in Pittsburgh, including blowing a 5-0 lead. I'm hoping this is a repeat of 2012, getting off to the slow start and then heating up. Right now though, this team isn't very good.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:11 PM
Frazier grounds out to short.

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 03:12 PM
Will need to score more than our average today. Better get hot now.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:13 PM
Paul walks

tomnuetten
05-04-2013, 03:13 PM
a "bad" outing from a rookie :eek: send him down...

he had some bad pitches the last outings aswell, but he had more "luck"... hes a rookie with small experience at aaa level...

we will have some fun with this guy in the future...

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:13 PM
Paul on base again. 4 pitch walk.

Tom Servo
05-04-2013, 03:13 PM
Even the best pitchers in the league get knocked around, I think Cingrani can learn quite a bit from this. But more importantly, we need to score more runs and win today!

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:13 PM
They've struggled against the Cubs in all five games they've played them. They struggled in two of four vs the Marlins. Were swept in Pittsburgh, including blowing a 5-0 lead. I'm hoping this is a repeat of 2012, getting off to the slow start and then heating up. Right now though, this team isn't very good.

So you have the division leaders down as a "not good" team, but you bemoan the Reds who are arguably well constructed and 1.5 games out of the WC and division lead as "not good" too. Who is good?

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:14 PM
Hit and run with Corky. Mildly surprising.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:14 PM
Both pitchers have thrown a lot of pitches today. Samardzija already up to 75

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:14 PM
Miller grounds into a 4-6-3 DP. 4-2 Cubs mid 4th.

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 03:15 PM
Well, that wasn't real good.

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:15 PM
They've struggled against the Cubs in all five games they've played them. They struggled in two of four vs the Marlins. Were swept in Pittsburgh, including blowing a 5-0 lead. I'm hoping this is a repeat of 2012, getting off to the slow start and then heating up. Right now though, this team isn't very good.

So you have the division leaders down as a "not good" team, but you bemoan the Reds who are arguably well constructed and 1.5 games out of the WC and division lead and say they are "not good" too. Who is good?

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 03:15 PM
So you have the division leaders down as a "not good" team, but you bemoan the Reds who are arguably well constructed and 1.5 games out of the WC and division lead as "not good" too. Who is good?

Pirates will be below .500 at the end of the season. The Reds aren't playing like a very good team at the moment. They have the talent to be a great team, I predicted them to win close to 100 games. Right now, they're not playing well. You disagree with that?

Tom Servo
05-04-2013, 03:16 PM
Please, no more Corky.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 03:16 PM
I love the guy, but Corky Miller isn't a major leaguer.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:16 PM
Both pitchers have thrown a lot of pitches today. Samardzija already up to 75

Yep. I think Cingrani's around 60 already. I like our odds in a BP contest.

Is Chapman even available today? He threw an awful lot of pitches yesterday. (stress the word awful *grin*)

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 03:16 PM
We need to get at least a little offense from the lower part of the line up.

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:16 PM
Pirates will be below .500 at the end of the season. The Reds aren't playing like a very good team at the moment. They have the talent to be a great team, I predicted them to win close to 100 games. Right now, they're not playing well. You disagree with that?

Goalposts shifted.

They are not playing well.

But they are a good team.

powersackers
05-04-2013, 03:17 PM
I love the guy, but Corky Miller isn't a major leaguer.

Paul won't get another pitch to hit unless runner on first. Miller is an auto out. Why pitch to Paul?

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:17 PM
Please, no more Corky.

Who else is ready? Is Tucker Barnheart ready yet?

Corky IS solid defensively, I don't think anybody can argue that.

NebraskaRed
05-04-2013, 03:17 PM
Pirates will be below .500 at the end of the season. The Reds aren't playing like a very good team at the moment. They have the talent to be a great team, I predicted them to win close to 100 games. Right now, they're not playing well. You disagree with that?

You can't just change your argument in the middle of a debate.

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-04-2013, 03:18 PM
I know catchers are slow but Corky Miller is Eeyore slow

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:18 PM
Castillo flew out to right

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:18 PM
Hairston fouls out to Corky

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:19 PM
Who IS the catcher in Louisville now with Corky up here? It got me thinking once I mentioned Tucker. He's still in AA, right?

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-04-2013, 03:20 PM
When they show him up close Corky looks like a grizzled ex-cop turned private eye cop show type.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:21 PM
Barney flies out to the track in left. 4-2 Cubs after 4.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:21 PM
*whew* I thought that was gone off the bat. Barney flies out to Paul.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 03:21 PM
Goalposts shifted.

They are not playing well.

But they are a good team.

If this score holds, the Reds will be 16-15. They've lost a lot of games they should have won. I guess we'll have to disagree then, because in my book the Reds aren't very good right now. I think they'll get better, or at least I hope so. My biggest fear is the injuries continue piling up and this turns into another 2011.

Tom Servo
05-04-2013, 03:22 PM
Who IS the catcher in Louisville now with Corky up here? It got me thinking once I mentioned Tucker. He's still in AA, right?
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=C&sid=t416&t=p_pbp&pid=520209

toledodan
05-04-2013, 03:23 PM
i don't understand what baker has against mez

NebraskaRed
05-04-2013, 03:23 PM
i don't understand what baker has against mez

Stole his box of toothpicks once

powersackers
05-04-2013, 03:24 PM
Who else is ready? Is Tucker Barnheart ready yet?

Corky IS solid defensively, I don't think anybody can argue that.

Tucker is doing well. Like to keep him where he's at. Just play Mes 6 out of 7 and I can live with Miller for now.

BLEEDS
05-04-2013, 03:24 PM
I hate the Cubs. Why'd Cingrani have to pick this game to look like a rookie?

Welcome to Wrigley, rook.
Don't throw Soriano anything in the strike zone, let alone a meatball, at home. That's the only reason the Cubs signed him, to hit meatballs over the ivy.


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Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:24 PM
Cingrani grounds out just in front of the plate.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:24 PM
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=C&sid=t416&t=p_pbp&pid=520209

Who in the heck is THAT? Never even heard of him before. FA pickup?

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:26 PM
Choo flies out to left

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:26 PM
If this score holds, the Reds will be 16-15. They've lost a lot of games they should have won. I guess we'll have to disagree then, because in my book the Reds aren't very good right now. I think they'll get better, or at least I hope so. My biggest fear is the injuries continue piling up and this turns into another 2011.

To me, a team is defined by the group of players that have been assembled. Now a good team can play bad and vice versa. Right now they are plodding along, with a winning record in spite of a relatively large amount of injuries. I don't see how they qualify as "not very good".

I'm not looking to parse words, but just saying, I'm underwhelmed to this point, but I'm not that worried about the rest of the year.

BLEEDS
05-04-2013, 03:26 PM
I know catchers are slow but Corky Miller is Eeyore slow

Exactly.
Corky needs to know his role. If you don't get something to pull, you strike out and let the pitcher get his ab before the next inning.

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kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 03:26 PM
Who in the heck is THAT? Never even heard of him before. FA pickup?

Appears to be a Corky-in-Training.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:28 PM
Cozart walks.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:28 PM
Good game from Cozart thus far. 1 for 2 with a single and a walk.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-04-2013, 03:28 PM
im calling a votto dinger.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:30 PM
Votto grounds out to 3rd. 4-2 Cubs mid 5th.

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-04-2013, 03:31 PM
im calling a votto dinger.

Not with a hideous swing like that

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-04-2013, 03:31 PM
im calling a votto dinger.

maybe not

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:34 PM
Samardzija strikes out. 4 Ks.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:34 PM
Everytime I see Samardzija, this comes to mind.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eFsJONTMNyc/RwNNiphdsYI/AAAAAAAAAJA/UlvxiPF5TY0/s320/spanish_inquisition.jpg

Hillsdale87
05-04-2013, 03:35 PM
More of that breaking ball from Cingrani please :) That was filthy

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:35 PM
Sappelt grounds out to 2nd.

Screwball
05-04-2013, 03:36 PM
Sappelt grounds out to 2nd.

He is an absolute black hole at the top of that lineup.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:37 PM
KKKKK

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:37 PM
Ransom strikes out. 5 Ks. 4-2 Cubs after 5.

Hillsdale87
05-04-2013, 03:39 PM
Regarding that breaking ball, why didn't the Reds force Cingrani to almost exclusively throw that pitch down in the minors? It's nasty, but very inconsistent, and it's difficult to develop consistency if it's rarely thrown. He's proven that his fastball is a strength, so what was the point of throwing his fastball 80% of the time in AAA. I would think he should have been throwing breaking ball and changeup 80% and just mixing in a few fastballs.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:40 PM
Phillips flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:42 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd.

Reds/Flyers Fan
05-04-2013, 03:43 PM
Another offensive snoozer ... Zzzzzzzzz

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:45 PM
Frazier grounds out to short. 4-2 Cubs mid 6th.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:48 PM
Rizzo flies out to left.

Screwball
05-04-2013, 03:49 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd.

Bruce struggling mightily against righties this year. OPS in the 500s against all RHP, and an OPS of .507 (coming into today) against RH starters. Yikes.

Gallen5862
05-04-2013, 03:49 PM
Who in the heck is THAT? Never even heard of him before. FA pickup?

He was picked up at the end of spring training. He was signed while Olivo was deciding on going to AAA for the Reds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Schmidt

Signed a minor league contract with Cincinnati Reds on March 27th 2013.. http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/minor-league-transactions-march-21-27/

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:50 PM
Soriano grounds out to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:52 PM
Castro flies out to right. 4-2 Cubs. Cingrani retired the last 10 in a row. I would imagine he is done for the day as he is due up 3rd in the 7th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:53 PM
He was picked up at the end of spring training.He was signed while Olivo was deciding on going to AAA for the Reds.

Thanks Gallen. I don't know his backup either. I know you've got to fill out the minor league rosters...but I'm surprised at the lack of catcher in the system especially since it was such a strength just a year ago.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:55 PM
James Russel in to pitch

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 03:55 PM
Stole his box of toothpicks once

Used them to clean out his spikes.:lol:

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:56 PM
Paul grounds out to short

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:57 PM
Lutz on deck. Ondrusek warming....(cue the woe-is-me posts)

toledodan
05-04-2013, 03:58 PM
sick of watching dusty give games away having corky play.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:58 PM
Fear the Corkster!

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 03:59 PM
Miller walks.

Lutz pinch hitting. They should be pinch running too

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 03:59 PM
Come on Donald....time for your first.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:00 PM
Lutz pops out to short.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:00 PM
Miller walks.

Lutz pinch hitting. They should be pinch running too

Good point. I agree. But we know Dusty hates to use his backup catcher.

Magdal
05-04-2013, 04:00 PM
OK, who is this Lutz guy? Is he any good?

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:01 PM
It is strange they pinch hit a lefty against Russel. They could have hit Mesoraco and ran for Miller

toledodan
05-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Good point. I agree. But we know Dusty hates to use his backup catcher.

that's another reason corky shouldn't start.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Choo strikes out swinging. 4-2 Cubs mid 7th.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:02 PM
OK, who is this Lutz guy? Is he any good?

AA callup. Promising young hitter with power...called up too early though due to injuries and 40 man roster issues.

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Why do you use a left handed AA player to pinch hit against a left handed pitcher?

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 04:03 PM
Reds doing what they have been doing best.....not hitting. No hits since the 3rd inning.

Gainesville Red
05-04-2013, 04:03 PM
Why go lefty on lefty? Lutz better hitting against lefty's? Russel bad against lefty's for some reason?

Magdal
05-04-2013, 04:04 PM
AA callup. Promising young hitter with power...called up too early though due to injuries and 40 man roster issues. OK

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:05 PM
Ondrusek in to pitch.

Castillo grounds out to short.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:05 PM
Marmol warming. Logan in btw.

OnBaseMachine
05-04-2013, 04:05 PM
Cingrani only allowed 3 hits, unfortunately he made two horrible pitches to Soriano. Not an awful start.

malcontent
05-04-2013, 04:06 PM
Why go lefty on lefty? Lutz better hitting against lefty's? Russel bad against lefty's for some reason?
No and no.

Baker.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:06 PM
The numbers for Cingrani today: 6IP, 3H, 4ER, 1BB, 5K.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:07 PM
Hairston flies out to the track in center.

Gainesville Red
05-04-2013, 04:07 PM
No and no.

Baker.



Figured.

How nice.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Nice 1-2-3 for Logan.

I was wrong about the pitchers duel. After the 3rd it certainly turned into one. Both starters really zeroed in after the 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Barney grounds out to 2nd. 4-2 Cubs after 7.

Benihana
05-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Now's the time to strike. 2-3-4 going against Marmol

BLEEDS
05-04-2013, 04:09 PM
Reds doing what they have been doing best.....not hitting. No hits since the 3rd inning.

Well we have outhit the cubs...
4 runs on 3 hits.
No gopher balls and we are cruising...

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_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:11 PM
Marmol owns one of our hitters...isn't it Votto?

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 04:11 PM
If the first two batters don't take the bat off their shoulder at least one should walk and bring the tying run up. ;)

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:12 PM
4 pitch walk to Cozy. 3rd time on today for Zack.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:12 PM
Marmol comes in and a 4 pitch walk to Cozart

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 04:12 PM
Marmol is the gift that keeps on giving. He may skate by today, but I get giddy when we face him.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:12 PM
Votto 2 for 16 against Marmol.

BLEEDS
05-04-2013, 04:13 PM
Cingrani only allowed 3 hits, unfortunately he made two horrible pitches to Soriano. Not an awful start.

Rookie mistakes.
You don't give in to Soriano.
Make him do what he does best, swing at pitches out of the zone; if not, walk him.
You're not fooling Soriano with meatballs and your "deceptive" delivery, this ain't AAA.

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_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:14 PM
Marmol is the gift that keeps on giving. He may skate by today, but I get giddy when we face him.

Only Cub I've enjoyed tatooing more was Zambrano.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:15 PM
BB to Votto

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:15 PM
Another walk to Votto

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:16 PM
Phillips just missed. Foul down the right field line.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:17 PM
Phillips plunked. Bases loaded.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:17 PM
And he hits Phillip in the hip. Bases loaded no outs.

edabbs44
05-04-2013, 04:17 PM
Marmol is a mess.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-04-2013, 04:18 PM
marmol to the rescue!

Gainesville Red
05-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Marmol is a mess.

He totally Marmoled.

Stray
05-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Thank goodness for Marmol

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:18 PM
I actually feel bad for Marmol sometimes. It's gotta be tough to get booed so mercilessly by your home fans. Brutal.

Benihana
05-04-2013, 04:19 PM
I think Marmol might be one of the worst Major League pitchers I've ever seen.

How he's stuck around for so long, let alone in a meaningful role, is amazing. Only the Cubbies.

kaldaniels
05-04-2013, 04:19 PM
Marmol is the gift that keeps on giving. He may skate by today, but I get giddy when we face him.

I'm gonna miss him when he's gone.

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 04:20 PM
If we get to Corky's spot in the line up and Dusty doesn't PH for him with Mesoraco, Dusty should be fired.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:20 PM
Hector Rondon in to pitch

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Broken bat flair. 4-3

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Bruce bloop hit to left. 4-3 Cubs. Bases still loaded.

Stray
05-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Nice!

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:22 PM
If we get to Corky's spot in the line up and Dusty doesn't PH for him with Mesoraco, Dusty should be fired.

If Walt fired him for THIS reason...Walt should be fired.

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 04:22 PM
Bruce didn't hit it hard, but got a single. If you don't K, good things can happen.

Kc61
05-04-2013, 04:22 PM
Rookie mistakes.
You don't give in to Soriano.
Make him do what he does best, swing at pitches out of the zone; if not, walk him.
You're not fooling Soriano with meatballs and your "deceptive" delivery, this ain't AAA.

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Not watching today but this post seems exactly correct. Lefty pitcher must pitch Soriano carefully.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:22 PM
Sac fly to right. 4-4 game and Bruce advances too. Nice baserunning Jay.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Frazier sac fly to right. Tie game 4-4 and all runners advance. 2nd and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Intentional walk to Paul.

Hannahan hitting for Corky

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Paul IBB. Hannahan pinch hitting for Corky. Everybody happy now? I guess Dusty keeps his job one more day. *rolls eyes*

edabbs44
05-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Hannahan PH for Corkster after the IBB

edabbs44
05-04-2013, 04:24 PM
Paul IBB. Hannahan pinch hitting for Corky. Everybody happy now?

Dusty's wife is, no interruption in the paychecks.

toledodan
05-04-2013, 04:25 PM
If we get to Corky's spot in the line up and Dusty doesn't PH for him with Mesoraco, Dusty should be fired.

dusty is listening!

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:26 PM
Dusty's wife is, no interruption in the paychecks.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the Baker family isn't living paycheck to paycheck. *grin*

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 04:26 PM
Paul IBB. Hannahan pinch hitting for Corky. Everybody happy now? I guess Dusty keeps his job one more day. *rolls eyes*

satisfied he's hitting for Corky, happy, not necessarily. If we win, yes

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:27 PM
BB to Jack. 5-4 Reds.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:27 PM
Hannahan walks in a run. 5-4 Reds!

jhiller21
05-04-2013, 04:27 PM
I love the Cub's bullpen

Stray
05-04-2013, 04:27 PM
Don't understand walking the bases loaded when your pitcher struggles to throw strikes. I think he did the same thing in yesterday's game.

Reds Fanatic
05-04-2013, 04:27 PM
Mesoraco hitting for Ondrusek

50YrRedsFan
05-04-2013, 04:28 PM
We'll take it. 8 walks by Cubs pitchers.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:28 PM
Don't understand walking the bases loaded when your pitcher struggles to throw strikes. I think he did the same thing in yesterday's game.

Only 1 out...setting up the DP situation is the right move. You can't assume your pitcher will be wild.

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2013, 04:29 PM
Sac fly to right. Bruce scores. 6-4 Reds.

That was the WORST outfield arm I've ever seen. Not even CLOSE.
Borbon out there. Shallow right field...he barely got it back to the IF dirt.

edabbs44
05-04-2013, 04:29 PM
I think Borbon might actually be a righty thrower.