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cumberlandreds
05-14-2013, 03:12 PM
Here is the Reds lineup for tonight. Bruce with the night off. Lutz in RF.


1. Shin-Soo Choo (L) CF
2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Xavier Paul (L) LF
6. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
7. Donald Lutz (L) RF
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
9. Homer Bailey (R) P

NebraskaRed
05-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Is there a lineup for the Marlins? Or is it a situation where whoever happens to show up gets to play?

cumberlandreds
05-14-2013, 03:27 PM
Is there a lineup for the Marlins? Or is it a situation where whoever happens to show up gets to play?

None yet. Still picking from the hat.

NebraskaRed
05-14-2013, 03:30 PM
Maybe they send a text to everyone on the roster that says "Hey guys, come to the stadium for a big, important meeting" and whoever happens to fall for it gets put into the lineup

Tom Servo
05-14-2013, 03:39 PM
Or is it a situation where whoever happens to show up gets to play?
Austin Kearns: Hey skip, I'm back from the restricted list. What time does the game tonight start again?

Mike Redmond: What time can you get here?

guttle11
05-14-2013, 04:10 PM
Austin Kearns: Hey skip, I'm back from the restricted list. What time does the game tonight start again?

Mike Redmond: What time can you get here?

I hear Stanton may bring his neighbor tonight. He was all league in high school.

RichRed
05-14-2013, 04:17 PM
First 9 fans in attendance get to play. It might take two nights to find enough fan-players to fill the bench though.

texasdave
05-14-2013, 04:37 PM
What are the MLB rules on ghost runners?

RedsBrick
05-14-2013, 05:59 PM
They could also institute a game of 'left field ball' where anything hit to the right of second is an out....

We played that WAY too much when I was a kid....I became a dead pull hitter!

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-14-2013, 06:47 PM
not sure i like the benching of bruce here. seemed to be on a streak and in an albeit small sample size of 19 PAs, he's OPSing .982 against nolasco

LeDoux
05-14-2013, 07:08 PM
The Fish:

Pierre, LF
Polanco, 3B
Dietrich, 2B
Ozuna, RF
Ruggiano, CF
Dobbs, 1B
Hechavarria, SS
Brantly, C
Nolasco, P

SirFelixCat
05-14-2013, 07:50 PM
8 days, 8 AB's for Mes. Just sayin'....

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 07:56 PM
The Fish:

Pierre, LF
Polanco, 3B
Dietrich, 2B
Ozuna, RF
Ruggiano, CF
Dobbs, 1B
Hechavarria, SS
Brantly, C
Nolasco, P

Looking at this lineup: How have the Marlins won 11 games?
The Marlins are only 3 wins behind the Angels. Go figure.
Angels are 10 games behind Texas.
Marlins are 'only' 11 games behind Atlanta

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:11 PM
Homer Bailey is batting .300?

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:22 PM
1st and 3rd, 1 out for the Reds

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:22 PM
A single to put us on the board!

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:23 PM
RBI single for BP, 1-0 Reds , top 1, still only 1 out.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:24 PM
Strikeout for Xavier Paul, so it's still first and second, now with two outs.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:25 PM
Paul K's, 2 out

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:27 PM
Reds leave 2 on as Frazier K's, 1-0 mid 1st

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:29 PM
Pierre gets a leadoff double for the Marlins.

Raisor
05-14-2013, 08:30 PM
RBI single for BP, 1-0 Reds , top 1, still only 1 out.

This is the most optimistic thing you've ever posted

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:32 PM
Base hit for the Marlins's Dietrich, and now it's tied.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:33 PM
Marlins tie it 1-1 with a single by Dietrich

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:38 PM
Ruggiano is struck out, so the Marlins strand one at second and the score is still tied.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:39 PM
Bailey K's Ruggiano, 1-1 tie, end 1.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:40 PM
Quiet here tonight....a game where everyone thinks the Reds will win, so they are not here.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:42 PM
Lutz flies out leading off the 2nd

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:43 PM
Hanigan singles

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:44 PM
Bailey sacrifices Hanny to 2nd. 2 out.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:44 PM
Bailey gets a sacrifice, advancing the runner to second. (And yeah, I would guess most people have already written this one as most likely being for the Reds.)

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:46 PM
Choo hbp AGAIN

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:47 PM
Bases loaded situation with Votto at the plate.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:47 PM
Cozart with his 2nd hit..bases loaded, 2 out for Votto.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:48 PM
Reds can blow it open with big hit here.

Gallen5862
05-14-2013, 08:48 PM
Thanks for the PBP.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:50 PM
I'm gonna be disappointed if we don't get something here...

hebroncougar
05-14-2013, 08:50 PM
I could have swore Nolasco balked before he stepped off before the 2-2 pitch.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:50 PM
Ha! Walked in the run.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:51 PM
Bases loaded walk to Votto, 2-1 Reds

CarolinaRedleg
05-14-2013, 08:51 PM
BB RBI. I'll take a free run.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:53 PM
3-1 count. Another run walked in would work for me.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:53 PM
Nolasco is not long for this game the way he's going.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:53 PM
Whew! Back-to-back runs walked in. Coaching visit to the mound.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:54 PM
Paul can put the whammy on the Fish here.

RedsManRick
05-14-2013, 08:54 PM
Some top notch situational hitting from Joe Vo & DatDude -- and I mean that earnestly. Both got the job done. There are times when walks do drive in runs.

jhiller21
05-14-2013, 08:55 PM
Welsh and Kelch discussing dirty helmets. Welsh likes it, Kelch doesn't.

I remember Choo's being so covered in pine tar you couldn't see the "C" on it. He's since cleaned it off a little. I honestly don't care how dirty they let it get, as long as they produce.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:56 PM
3-1 count again. We could do this all evening. Just keep walking 'em in.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:56 PM
3rd walk in a row coming up?

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:56 PM
No! 3 run double! And this one is wide open!

CarolinaRedleg
05-14-2013, 08:57 PM
BAM!

Tom Servo
05-14-2013, 08:57 PM
X gon give it to ya.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 08:57 PM
Well, Frazier out, but not before the Reds take a five-run lead.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 08:58 PM
Just what the Doctor ordered....bases clearing double by Paul. Frazier flies out to end the 2nd. 6-1 Reds, mid 2.

CarolinaRedleg
05-14-2013, 08:58 PM
That half inning was certainly Volquezian.

klw
05-14-2013, 08:58 PM
Why on earth did Frazier swing at the first pitch?????????

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 09:00 PM
Only 3 hits to get 5 runs that inning.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 09:02 PM
Now that the Reds have a comfortable lead, time to walk the dogs .....

Raisor
05-14-2013, 09:03 PM
Only down side is I have the fish pitcher on my fantasy team

nate
05-14-2013, 09:05 PM
Chat is open!

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 09:06 PM
K on Brantly and it's two out, with one at first for the Marlins.

WildcatFan
05-14-2013, 09:07 PM
I don't think Kelch and Welsh like each other very much.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 09:12 PM
Three up, three down this time for the Reds.

And Homer Bailey matches it.

90reds
05-14-2013, 09:24 PM
CB Bucknor!

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-14-2013, 09:32 PM
I don't think Kelch and Welsh like each other very much.

why do you say that?

WildcatFan
05-14-2013, 09:33 PM
why do you say that?

Chris always seems to go out of his way to disagree with Kelch. They bicker like an old married couple that doesn't want to argue in front of the kids.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 09:34 PM
Strikeout to end the bottom of the fourth, and it remains 6-1.

VR
05-14-2013, 09:34 PM
Good few innings here by Homer. I'd love to see him get just a bit more efficient and pitch through the 8th.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-14-2013, 09:36 PM
Chris always seems to go out of his way to disagree with Kelch. They bicker like an old married couple that doesn't want to argue in front of the kids.

hah, now that i am looking for it, i do see it. chris shocked at kelch's suggestion that someone other than leake or cingrani could get sent down (although it seems like kelch was about to clarify his initial statement). interesting dynamic.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 09:39 PM
Brandon Phillips with a single to start the fifth... and out attempting to steal.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-14-2013, 09:40 PM
man, phillips has lost a good bit of speed over the past few years

VR
05-14-2013, 09:42 PM
Looks like Billy Hamilton is finally starting to heat up in Louisville.

VR
05-14-2013, 09:43 PM
Frazier seems to be one of those Jay Bruce/ Zack Cozart funks where he never gets ahead in the count.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 09:47 PM
Double play to the end the Marlins's fifth inning. 5-4-3

VR
05-14-2013, 09:49 PM
Homer reads RZ. 6 pitch inning to give him hope of going 8. 66 through 5 so far.

Raisor
05-14-2013, 09:54 PM
May be going to see Running Billy here in Charlotte tomorrow

KYRedLeg
05-14-2013, 10:03 PM
Marlins Stadium looks like they painted it in hopes that somebody could come along later and superimpose something interesting over all the green.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:07 PM
Marlins trying to get something going here. Runners on the corners with one out.

George Foster
05-14-2013, 10:16 PM
Cards beating the Mets 6-0 in the 3rd....are they ever going to cool off?

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:20 PM
Well, the Mets aren't exactly formidable competition at the moment, eh? Going in, one would expect about the same result as we're seeing right now with the Reds against the Marlins.

foxfire123
05-14-2013, 10:23 PM
May be going to see Running Billy here in Charlotte tomorrow

Dangit Raisor, now I have Running Bear stuck in my head...

RedsfaninMT
05-14-2013, 10:24 PM
Well, the Mets aren't exactly formidable competition at the moment, eh? Going in, one would expect about the same result as we're seeing right now with the Reds against the Marlins.

Funny, but I don't hear as many comments about the rest of the east having so many games against the Marlins/Mets as I did last year about the Reds/Cards playing the Astros/Cubs.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:25 PM
Back from walking the dogs......where did the offenses go?

Mutaman
05-14-2013, 10:25 PM
At what point do we start getting really worried about Frazier?

757690
05-14-2013, 10:29 PM
Lutz has a nice arm, better than I expected.

Tom Servo
05-14-2013, 10:29 PM
Back from walking the dogs......where did the offenses go?
You're really not happy with a 5 run lead?

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:29 PM
40Yr - it's cooled off a lot for the Reds, with some 1-2-3 innings. The Marlins just scored one, but they also just ended the inning, so it's now 6-2.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:30 PM
At what point do we start getting really worried about Frazier?

Mid June....if he doesn't show signs of improvement. By then, Michael Young
might be available. The Mets are in a free fall. David Wright, anyone?

malcontent
05-14-2013, 10:31 PM
At what point do we start getting really worried about Frazier?
He really needs to sit a few games, get his head straight.

Hannahan's a capable replacement.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:31 PM
You're really not happy with a 5 run lead?

I thought we would have knocked Nolasco out by the way we started off.

But yes, I love 5 run leads (or 4 run leads now)/

malcontent
05-14-2013, 10:32 PM
Lutz has a nice arm, better than I expected.
Yeah, it's really good to see him doing so well in the field.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:34 PM
Lutz Just missed!

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:34 PM
Ah man, that one was so close.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:37 PM
Bruce has had his 2 consecutive days now.....maybe Choo needs time off. He's scuffling.

redsfaninbsg
05-14-2013, 10:43 PM
Based on the amount of posts tonight, I'm guessing everyone finds Marlins games as boring as I.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:44 PM
Well, save that early burst of scoring, it's been a fairly uneventful game on both sides.

redsfaninbsg
05-14-2013, 10:49 PM
Nice effort by Bailey tonight, hopefully this sets the tone for the road trip.

Vottomatic
05-14-2013, 10:51 PM
Trade Frazier for David Wright.

Yeah baby! ;)

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:51 PM
I was looking at the box score and saw the number 76 at the bottom. I thought that was the attendance:laugh: It was actually the temperature.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:51 PM
Trade Frazier for David Wright.

Yeah baby! ;)

9-0 Cards over Mets tonight.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:52 PM
Yep, good job by Bailey. Top of the ninth now-- be great to get in a few more insurance runs, but the important thing at this point will just be to finish them off in the bottom of the ninth.

Vottomatic
05-14-2013, 10:53 PM
9-0 Cards over Mets tonight.

So you're saying Dave is available? :laugh:

Vottomatic
05-14-2013, 10:53 PM
Joey with his third hit of the game.

Vottomatic
05-14-2013, 10:55 PM
BP with his token hit into double play. Eliminates both runners.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 10:56 PM
So you're saying Dave is available? :laugh:

you never know, except the Reds won't pay the money he gets.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 10:58 PM
Homer Bailey stays in. Complete game, possibly?

Mutaman
05-14-2013, 10:58 PM
9-0 Cards over Mets tonight.


Its onlt the sixth inning. Mets will never say die.

757690
05-14-2013, 10:58 PM
A complete game would be a great blast from the past.

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:00 PM
A day after some mock the Cards for letting Lynn throw 124 pitches.

Karma

BCubb2003
05-14-2013, 11:01 PM
Who will stop this madness?

WebScorpion
05-14-2013, 11:02 PM
Homer looks kind of tired but he's still bringing it at 95mph. :thumbup: He can do it. :beerme:

Mutaman
05-14-2013, 11:02 PM
Its onlt the sixth inning. Mets will never say die.

Can I call them: Mets are on the board.

RedsManRick
05-14-2013, 11:02 PM
Wow. Pitch 115 at 95mph? Homer is finally getting there, huh?

And for the record, if Bailey isn't losing his form, I'm cool with this pitch count.

50YrRedsFan
05-14-2013, 11:02 PM
A day after some mock the Cards for letting Lynn throw 124 pitches.

Karma

I would bet Bailey lobbied Dusty to stay in.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:02 PM
KKKKKKKKKK

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:03 PM
I'm way more lenient on abiding by pitch counts on here than most. But up 4 against the Marlins? You save the arm here.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:03 PM
You do NOT have to baby this arm....Homer is a HORSE. Ride 'em!

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:03 PM
I would bet Bailey lobbied Dusty to stay in.

And most definitely.

jfleur87
05-14-2013, 11:03 PM
95 fb, 90 cutter, 96 and 95 fb in the 9th with over 100 pitches, and with location? Gosh I've enjoyed watching Homer progress.

Captain Hook
05-14-2013, 11:04 PM
97 mph in the 9th?:eek:

757690
05-14-2013, 11:04 PM
A day after some mock the Cards for letting Lynn throw 124 pitches.

Karma

I actually liked that move. 125 pitches really isn't much, to be honest.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:04 PM
These past 2 years, his delivery is just so smooth and easy. Just a joy to watch.

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:04 PM
97 mph in the 9th?:eek:

I don't agree with letting him stay in...but this is Verlander-esque.

Mutaman
05-14-2013, 11:05 PM
I'm way more lenient on abiding by pitch counts on here than most. But up 4 against the Marlins? You save the arm here.


Don't agree: Homer thrives on work, always has.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 11:05 PM
He keeps throwing the heat and the batter keeps fouling it off.

Tony Cloninger
05-14-2013, 11:05 PM
I would bet Bailey lobbied Dusty to stay in.

I agree. Mechanics good? If so and he is throwing free and easy...he can do it. Just watch him his next start and try to not let him go more than 90-100 pitches.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:05 PM
He's tied his career high in K's again with 10. Love to see him break it here.

ProfessorTofty
05-14-2013, 11:06 PM
Bailey complete game, and this one belongs to the Reds!

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:06 PM
88 strikes 37 balls on the night

Way to go Homer

George Foster
05-14-2013, 11:07 PM
glad he got the complete game but that was way to many pitches in a 6-2 game.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:07 PM
Love it. And this one belongs to the Reds! Homer with a beauty!

WebScorpion
05-14-2013, 11:08 PM
and this one belongs to Homer Bailey and the REDS!!!

:jump:

Congrats Homer on the CG! :thumbup:

jfleur87
05-14-2013, 11:08 PM
Wow. Sorry this post lacks depth.

Been a Bailey fan since day 1. Heck, my sig has said this looking ago. Also I've had a few whiskeys.

Wow.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:08 PM
100 pitches are not the same for every pitcher. Homer is a big, strong guy and his delivery is unbelievably smooth and easy....125 pitches is NOT overworking him. Not at all.

He has always gotten stronger as he goes deeper in a game. His velocity is a testament to that.

757690
05-14-2013, 11:09 PM
Its onlt the sixth inning. Mets will never say die.

Now 9-4, never say die.

dubc47834
05-14-2013, 11:09 PM
Good to see Dusty let Homer stay in and get the CG tonite...he deserved at least a shot.

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:10 PM
100 pitches are not the same for every pitcher. Homer is a big, strong guy and his delivery is unbelievably smooth and easy....125 pitches is NOT overworking him. Not at all.

I'm not worried about this one game, I assume his arm is fine with it. But now next game he will be on a limited pitch count (I would think). I'd rather keep my options open for his next start, when today's game was pretty much in the bag.

Captain Hook
05-14-2013, 11:11 PM
I have no problem at all with the decision to let Homer pitch the 9th. He looked very strong and seemed to be having an easy time of it. Homer's not a kid anymore!!!

RedsManRick
05-14-2013, 11:13 PM
I'm way more lenient on abiding by pitch counts on here than most. But up 4 against the Marlins? You save the arm here.

While I would hope Dusty has learned that you don't let Homer do this 4 or 5 times in a row, I think there's something to be said for helping Homer get the confidence that he can reach back for it on #125 should the situation arrive in October. And what better time to do that than when a gopherball makes no difference?

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:14 PM
While I would hope Dusty has learned that you don't let Homer do this 4 or 5 times in a row, I think there's something to be said for helping Homer get the confidence that he can reach back for it on #125 should the situation arrive in October.

I was about to say, if pitching a complete game (or reaching a pitch count of x) is something Homer needed to get over the proverbial hump mentally or help his psych in some way, I can waver a bit on the move. I'm with you on your thought above.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:15 PM
I'm not worried about this one game, I assume his arm is fine with it. But now next game he will be on a limited pitch count (I would think). I'd rather keep my options open for his next start, when today's game was pretty much in the bag.

See, I don't look at it quite that way. Where they would back off is his off day throwing session. That'll be the light day. I agree that they probably shouldn't push him next time out, but here's the thing...pushing Homer is probably around the 125-130 mark. 100 is kinda babying him IMO. 100 is a good spot for a Mike Leake or a Bronson Arroyo. Smaller build, more stress on the arm with all the breaking balls. Same for Cueto, he's a stronger guys, but the extra torque he puts on his body just with the Tiant-twist alone would make me lean towards 100'ish for Johnny. Latos and Homer...their normal work-load SHOULD be higher than those other guys. Especially Homer with his delivery and effort.

cincrazy
05-14-2013, 11:16 PM
125 stress-free pitches against a piss-poor Marlins team isn't anything to get upset about. It's ok to let a guy stretch it out a bit and get a complete game. Geesh the coddling and babying of pitchers goes a little tooooooo far sometimes.

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:19 PM
See, I don't look at it quite that way. Where they would back off is his off day throwing session. That'll be the light day. I agree that they probably shouldn't push him next time out, but here's the thing...pushing Homer is probably around the 125-130 mark. 100 is kinda babying him IMO. 100 is a good spot for a Mike Leake or a Bronson Arroyo. Smaller build, more stress on the arm with all the breaking balls. Same for Cueto, he's a stronger guys, but the extra torque he puts on his body just with the Tiant-twist alone would make me lean towards 100'ish for Johnny. Latos and Homer...their normal work-load SHOULD be higher than those other guys. Especially Homer with his delivery end effort.

It's a matter of preference. And face it, tonight was fun to watch!

But again, I'd rather keep my option of him "pushing it" open for his next start. What if it is one of those days where the bullpen has been taxed and they need help from the starter. There's a 90 percent chance everything will work out just fine here, so I acknowledge it's not the end of the world.

3rd highest pitch count in the Majors this year going for a non-shutout complete game up 4 against the Marlins? Not my cup of tea.

Mutaman
05-14-2013, 11:29 PM
117 was the most Homer threw last year. Threw 115 in the no-no.

Caveat Emperor
05-14-2013, 11:31 PM
I haven't seen Homer hit that kind of number on the gun since his rookie season.

Also, he threw unquestionably his best breaking ball in the 9th as well.

kaldaniels
05-14-2013, 11:32 PM
117 was the most Homer threw last year. Threw 115 in the no-no.

Speaking of no-no's, I've got a hunch Homer has another one left in him. Won't necessarily be with the Reds.

_Sir_Charles_
05-14-2013, 11:35 PM
Speaking of no-no's, I've got a hunch Homer has another one left in him. Won't necessarily be with the Reds.

Bite your tongue. Extending Homer and Latos should be priority #1 for Walt IMO.

VR
05-15-2013, 12:37 AM
Only 2-3 'pressure' at bats. Homer did a great job staying out of trouble.