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klw
05-16-2013, 04:29 PM
Shin-Soo Choo 8
Zack Cozart 6
Joey Votto 3
Brandon Phillips 4
Jay Bruce 9
Todd Frazier 5
Xavier Paul 7
Ryan Hanigan 2
Mat Latos RHP

vs. RH Jose Fernandez (2-2, 3.65)


http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2013/05/16/reds-lineup-vs-marlins-4/

The Marlins are 0-10 with the roof open. Looks like it will be open again tonight. Lovely weather here.

NebraskaRed
05-16-2013, 05:45 PM
Since the Cards lost today, hopefully the Reds can win this one and get within 1 game.

50YrRedsFan
05-16-2013, 06:22 PM
Since the Cards lost today, hopefully the Reds can win this one and get within 1 game.

1.5 games back if we win tonight.;)

NebraskaRed
05-16-2013, 06:43 PM
1.5 games back if we win tonight.;)

http://www.theonion.com/articles/cincinnati-reds-somehow-2-78-games-out-of-first,32391/

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 08:19 PM
A Juan Pierre homer? Where am I?

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 08:20 PM
All 137 Marlin fans in attendance cheered!

RedsfaninMT
05-16-2013, 08:20 PM
A Juan Pierre homer? Where am I?

"Nice" defensive play and then bam!

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 08:21 PM
Is Latos going with a Mohawk or is it an illusion?

50YrRedsFan
05-16-2013, 08:24 PM
Is Latos going with a Mohawk or is it an illusion?

His haircut must have sapped his strength...a HR by Pierre, I wouldn't have thought it possible.

757690
05-16-2013, 08:36 PM
If the Reds lose this game 1-0 on Juan Pierre home run, I'm going to be very depressed.

foxfire123
05-16-2013, 08:38 PM
They are not going to lose. The power of positive thinking! :thumbup:

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 08:42 PM
Man, I like that Choo!

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 08:43 PM
Looks like a bad call. Hand on the bag, tag on the elbow.

Wonderful Monds
05-16-2013, 08:43 PM
The human element picks off Choo.

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 08:44 PM
Is Latos going with a Mohawk or is it an illusion?

I thought that looked odd, too.

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 08:44 PM
The human element picks off Choo.

Baseball is grand. Where else can you find the human element so prominently on display every night?

Wonderful Monds
05-16-2013, 08:45 PM
Replay shows it wasn't really even close.

R_Webb18
05-16-2013, 08:46 PM
Even tho he gave up that lucky home run Latos looks sharp.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 08:46 PM
I guarantee blue knows he missed it...

R_Webb18
05-16-2013, 08:47 PM
Replay shows it wasn't really even close.

ump bad eyes or bad view?

Wonderful Monds
05-16-2013, 08:49 PM
ump bad eyes or bad view?

Had to be bad eyes, it was all right in front of him to see, don't know where any obstruction might have been.

Wonderful Monds
05-16-2013, 08:54 PM
Nice cut going the other way on that pitch by Votto.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 08:54 PM
Beautiful piece of hitting...

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 08:57 PM
Had to be bad eyes, it was all right in front of him to see, don't know where any obstruction might have been.

All veteran umpires should know when the tag's up around the elbow, the hand's likely in there. That seemed to be what Dusty was relaying to him between innings.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 08:59 PM
Bruuuuuuuce

Heating up!

/NBAJam voice

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 08:59 PM
Hey...a 2 out RBI. Nice!

nate
05-16-2013, 09:00 PM
Chat is open!

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:04 PM
Just got home. Umm...just want to double check. Am I reading that right? Juan Pierre hit one over the fence? Really?

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:05 PM
Just got home. Umm...just want to double check. Am I reading that right? Juan Pierre hit one over the fence? Really?

The fence actually dove under a Juan Pierre bunt single. Was the darnedest thing.

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 09:06 PM
HANNY. Nice.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:06 PM
Why does anyone run on Ryan Hanigan?

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:06 PM
Hanigan....money.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:07 PM
Anyone watching the Office finale tonight? I stopped watching the show about four years ago, but I've got it recording.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:08 PM
Poor throw by Cozart but Votto makes the tag.

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-16-2013, 09:08 PM
Latos pretty darn pitch efficient: 38 through 4

Gizmo
05-16-2013, 09:09 PM
Anyone watching the Office finale tonight? I stopped watching the show about four years ago, but I've got it recording.

yep. I've seen every episode, and this season has been a nice callback to the early good seasons. Just checked in here during commercial break.

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 09:10 PM
Anyone watching the Office finale tonight? I stopped watching the show about four years ago, but I've got it recording.

Same for me....stopped watching a while ago but lived the show in its' prime. Will definitely watch the finale.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:11 PM
yep. I've seen every episode, and this season has been a nice callback to the early good seasons. Just checked in here during commercial break.

I think the Jim and Pam wedding was my last episode. I've heard pretty good things about this season, though. The retrospective should be nice.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:11 PM
The fence actually dove under a Juan Pierre bunt single. Was the darnedest thing.

Ah, okay. That makes more sense. :thumbup:

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:12 PM
Lead off BB to Paul. I'm here now....let the pounding on Fernandez begin.

OGB
05-16-2013, 09:18 PM
68 pitches through 5 innings. I'm anxious to get to this pen and hopefully blow it open.

R_Webb18
05-16-2013, 09:22 PM
Marlins park looks really nice

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 09:24 PM
Need a run here.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:24 PM
45 pitches for Latos heading to the sixth. Let's get some runs for the big fella.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:27 PM
Speaking of efficient, three pages in the game thread in the sixth inning.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:29 PM
Speaking of efficient, three pages in the game thread in the sixth inning.

This is what happens when the Reds play good baseball and win regularly. The boo-birds go into lurk-mode.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 09:29 PM
Need a run here.

I'll ask for this more often.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:29 PM
DatDude solo shot!

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 09:30 PM
You can only fool BP for just so long! He will make you pay at some point.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:30 PM
BYE BYE! :jump: PHILLIPS!

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:31 PM
Still like seeing Cairo in the dugout. Seems like he's having fun in his post-playing career.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:32 PM
BB for Bruce.

Gizmo
05-16-2013, 09:32 PM
This is what happens when the Reds play good baseball and win regularly. The boo-birds go into lurk-mode.

I'm watching the Office finale and just peeking into the game. Visiting the thread during commercials. I lurk most of the time anyway, actually.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 09:32 PM
keep hittin' it hard Fraz...

Gizmo
05-16-2013, 09:33 PM
Maybe we should have gone after Pierre for LF/CF heh

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 09:33 PM
Okay, what's going on. Pierre hitting home runs, making diving catches....bizzarro-marlins.

Big Klu
05-16-2013, 09:34 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Brandon Phillips - 149
16. Lee May - 147
17. Joey Votto - 137
17. Jay Bruce - 137
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

OGB
05-16-2013, 09:36 PM
Okay, what's going on. Pierre hitting home runs, making diving catches....bizzarro-marlins.

Raise your hand if you thought you'd read, "Jaun Pierre single handedly keeping Miami in the game tonight."

R_Webb18
05-16-2013, 09:38 PM
Raise your hand if you thought you'd read, "Jaun Pierre single handedly keeping Miami in the game tonight."

the last one was nice but the first play hit by votto was just a terrible route even tho he caught it.

OGB
05-16-2013, 09:38 PM
Raise your hand if you thought you'd read, "Jaun Pierre single handedly keeping Miami in the game tonight."

Although Pierre is one of the only OFers in baseball that allows a double on that Votto hit. It'd be 1-1 if he didn't have the worst rag-arm in the game.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 09:47 PM
Smart move...

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 09:47 PM
The 2013 Cincinnati Reds:

Where walking the leadoff guy with two outs is actually a pretty good option.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Brandon Phillips - 149
16. Lee May - 147
17. Joey Votto - 137
17. Jay Bruce - 137
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

Lists like this make you really appreciate the career he's having. A sure fire member of the Reds Hall of Fame.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 09:52 PM
Sheesh...58 pitches to this point. very nice!

New York Red
05-16-2013, 09:53 PM
DatDude solo shot!
It's a shame he isn't more valuable to this team. :laugh:

New York Red
05-16-2013, 09:55 PM
The 2013 Cincinnati Reds:

Where walking the leadoff guy with two outs is actually a pretty good option.
If this team ever comes up with an option for the #2 spot in the lineup, we might have something special. And if that guy happens to be a Left Fielder, even better.

OGB
05-16-2013, 09:55 PM
Jesus, ump

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 09:55 PM
Trouble.

malcontent
05-16-2013, 09:57 PM
How was that a HBP?

The guy's foot was behind the plate!

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:00 PM
How was that a HBP?

The guy's foot was behind the plate!

I would bet the rules say it was not a hbp

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:00 PM
WOW. Great DP!

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 10:00 PM
Nice!!!! 5-2-3 to get out of it.

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:00 PM
Nice double play to end the inning and get out of trouble.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 10:00 PM
Awesome!

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:01 PM
Very nice IBB decision by Dusty. Wonderful pitching by Latos. Superb double play third, to catcher, to first.

Very enjoyable play by the Reds.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:01 PM
Ho hum

Just your 5-2-3 dp

foxfire123
05-16-2013, 10:01 PM
Buckle down Mat! It's the *Marlins* for gawd's sake... :runaway:

ETA: :beerme:

malcontent
05-16-2013, 10:02 PM
I would bet the rules say it was not a hbp
If they don't, they should (say it's not).

But no argument at all from Baker.

:confused:

Tom Servo
05-16-2013, 10:02 PM
Dusty is a genius!!

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:04 PM
If they don't, they should (say it's not).

But no argument at all from Baker.

:confused:

Baker already made an appearance to argue.

Rules must say you cannot have two!

mbgrayson
05-16-2013, 10:05 PM
Votto pops out to the third baseman in foul territory... There is a rare Joey infield pop out.

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:10 PM
Anyone watching the Office finale tonight? I stopped watching the show about four years ago, but I've got it recording.

Haven't watched since the Jim/Pam storyline forced it to jump the shark and SC left.

Mutaman
05-16-2013, 10:10 PM
looks like this will all be up to the pitching and the defense.

BCubb2003
05-16-2013, 10:14 PM
Votto pops out to the third baseman in foul territory... There is a rare Joey infield pop out.

It wasn't really the infield though, was it?

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:14 PM
Surely Latos Mullanes.

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:14 PM
84 pitches for Latos. Could we see another complete game tonight?

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:19 PM
Safe again.

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:20 PM
MLB umpiring. FANNNNNNNNNtastic.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:20 PM
Missed call IMO. Robinson was safe.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:20 PM
Reds have been cheated on three plays tonight.

Gizmo
05-16-2013, 10:21 PM
24 outs each way, so far. 3 more and we win an away game.

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 10:21 PM
We lose this one by a run....grrrr

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:21 PM
3rd ball I've seen and missed most of the game!

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:23 PM
Bad call not ball!

Typing on phone not my forte

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:23 PM
Umpiring has been pathetic. MLB has to fix this.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 10:25 PM
Uh oh.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:25 PM
And now a triple.

Tom Servo
05-16-2013, 10:25 PM
oops

WVRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:25 PM
We lose this one by a run....grrrr

Bite your tongue

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:25 PM
Just what we didn't need. And, unfortunately, Latos is outta there.

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 10:26 PM
Lip readers assemble! What did Mat say to Arroyo?

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 10:27 PM
Latos was furious while the guys high gives him. Was it cuz Dusty took him out? Was complaining about something.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:27 PM
I just don't understand these pitchers. Latos has the guy 0-2 puts it over the plate and the hitter lines a triple.

Make the guy swing at a ball.

I see this constantly, pitchers making 0-2 pitches too good. That time, ninth inning, one run game, shouldn't have happened.

Latos was too "efficient" he should have thrown a ball.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:27 PM
Lip readers assemble! What did Mat say to Arroyo?

Wish I knew but he was hot

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 10:28 PM
Definite F bomb but that seems to be the one word I can lip read! :D

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
WP/PB thoughts are scaring me right now...

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
Wish I knew but he was hot

Latos seems to be saying the batter just stuck his bat out and got a triple.

Just frustration.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
C'mon need a K

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
Latos was furious while the guys high gives him. Was it cuz Dusty took him out? Was complaining about something.

I think he was pissed because of the field. Just a crappy swing and he gets a triple out of it. Just a guess.

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
He f'n took me out?

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
WP/PB thoughts are scaring me right now...

Same here.

New York Red
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
Lip readers assemble! What did Mat say to Arroyo?
Had to be about the ump. What else could he be mad about, other than at himself for throwing that pitch?

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:29 PM
Aroldis mph in Miami > Aroldis mph in Chicago

Blitz Dorsey
05-16-2013, 10:30 PM
This is one of the few times closers are extremely valuable. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Boom! Strikeout for the Missile. Need one more!

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:30 PM
K!

New York Red
05-16-2013, 10:30 PM
Chapman being Chapman.

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:30 PM
Big K there.

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:30 PM
*Whew*

That was close to the dreaded WP.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:30 PM
Had to be about the ump. What else could he be mad about, other than at himself for throwing that pitch?

He just thought the guy got a lucky triple. I don't think it's anything beyond that.

TSJ55
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Wow

Blitz Dorsey
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
You gotta be crappin' me.

New York Red
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Unreal.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Crap. Triple to center. Tie game.

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Another triple, and we're tied up. (sigh)

WVRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Blown save

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Mr. No Decision

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 10:32 PM
Dang.

Gizmo
05-16-2013, 10:32 PM
They still owe us 3 outs.

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:32 PM
That's a HR in most parks.

Tom Servo
05-16-2013, 10:32 PM
wat

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:32 PM
A minor league outfit gets two triples off Latos and Chapman in the 9th... Boy, oh, boy. :(

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:33 PM
Strikeout, and this one is going to extras.

Billy_Bearcat
05-16-2013, 10:33 PM
Like Creeper said, that's what happens when you fall behind and only have 1 pitch.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:34 PM
Stubbs would have had that last triple

Gomes too!

;-)

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 10:34 PM
again....major league hitters are gonna catch up to a fastball....I don't care who's throwing or how fast. Chappy's gotta mix in more offspeed.

BluegrassRedleg
05-16-2013, 10:34 PM
What do you think Latos' blood pressure topped out at there?

WVRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:34 PM
Feel bad for Mat. Gotta score more than two off any major league team even if they're pitiful.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:35 PM
Going to continue my rant.

These pitchers are afraid to throw a ball. Afraid of walks. I hate this.

Chapman fell behind 2-0 and just threw it right down the middle.

Reds got hurt that inning on two pitches over the plate unnecessarily.

Guy was on third, two outs, a walk means absolutely nothing.

Reds pitchers, including Chapman, just made it too good for the hitters.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 10:35 PM
So you cannot pitch Chapman more than 2 days in a row because he gets tired...and loses miles off his fastball...you cannot let him sit too long because of the same reason. When is it OK to pitch this guy? He has more than a fastball too.

Crumbley
05-16-2013, 10:35 PM
Hanigan saved 2 or 3 wild pitches there.

BCubb2003
05-16-2013, 10:35 PM
He should have thrown the slider from last night.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:35 PM
Chappy was PISSED there. He should be.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:37 PM
Funny, Marlins score two runs. First batter of the game and two outs in the ninth.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:37 PM
Lutz does it again. Sharp single to right. Say what you want, but the kids' been impressive. Period.

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:37 PM
I think the Reds have something in Lutz.

Krawhitham
05-16-2013, 10:37 PM
So you cannot pitch Chapman more than 2 days in a row because he gets tired...and loses miles off his fastball...you cannot let him sit too long because of the same reason. When is it OK to pitch this guy?

Once every five days sounds about right

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:38 PM
Once every five days sounds about right

Like it

Crumbley
05-16-2013, 10:38 PM
I think the Reds have something in Lutz.

I don't see a spot for Heisey.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:40 PM
Must bunt here

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 10:40 PM
I don't see a spot for Heisey.

I don't either, but I bet Dusty does.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:41 PM
Big hit from BP coming

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:41 PM
Feel bad for Mat. Gotta score more than two off any major league team even if they're pitiful.

IMO tonight is not a "feel bad for Mat" night. He was facing the Marlins' hot rookie pitcher. Tough matchup.

Mat grooved an 0-2 pitch for a triple and then lost his lead.

He pitched a very good game, but the ninth inning damage was his fault, at least in substantial part.

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 10:41 PM
Nice bunt.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:42 PM
Picture perfect bunt by Cozart. Nicely done.

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:42 PM
Good job, runners to second and third. Votto, intentional walk, of course.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 10:42 PM
Good job, Cozart

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 10:42 PM
Once every five days sounds about right

Yes...I figured someone would say that. But someone just posted that Welsh says he inly has 1 pitch? :)

BCubb2003
05-16-2013, 10:42 PM
So you cannot pitch Chapman more than 2 days in a row because he gets tired...and loses miles off his fastball...you cannot let him sit too long because of the same reason. When is it OK to pitch this guy? He has more than a fastball too.

Chapman didn't seem to be showing signs of tiredness.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:43 PM
Time to increase your NL RBI lead Brandon.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:43 PM
I guess you have to bunt there. Too bad, you lose Votto to a walk.

If there's simply a man on first, I don't bunt. First and second, I think you have to bunt.

C'mon Brandon. Fly ball or better.

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:43 PM
Okey dokey Brandon. Let's do it.

KYRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:44 PM
Some garbage calls from our guys in blue tonight. Looked like another one

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:44 PM
Some garbage calls from our guys in blue tonight. Looked like another one

Yup

AA umps tonight

KYRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:45 PM
datdude!!!

TSJ55
05-16-2013, 10:45 PM
Thata kid BP

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:45 PM
Yup

AA umps tonight

Well, they say admitting you have a problem IS the first step.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:45 PM
I'll take it.

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:45 PM
Alright, nice job Reds. Back in front, as it should be.

bigredmechanism
05-16-2013, 10:45 PM
Dat Dude!

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:46 PM
Hoover now?

KYRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:46 PM
need some aflac here

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:46 PM
Well struck.

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 10:46 PM
Hoover? Please no...

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:46 PM
Well, they say admitting you have a problem IS the first step.

I do have more than one problem

Oh wait

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:47 PM
If the Reds hold on, IMO, the player of the game is Lutz.

I know it sounds odd, but with Choo/Votto about to come up, that base hit by Lutz is huge. It puts enormous pressure on the pitcher.

After the hit, a walk, a bunt, an IBB, a fly ball. Bingo, a run.

Good work Lutz.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:47 PM
Broxton may be the biggest waste of money in the last five years. Wasn't he re-signed for these opportunities?

KYRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
hell yeah!!!!

TSJ55
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
Very nice

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
JAY! Double down the RF line! There we go! 5-2 Reds!

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
BRUUUUUUUUUCE

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
Who cares if it is Hoover???

WildcatFan
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
Attabruce!!!!!

Votto was PUMPED.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
Atta baby, Jay!

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
Okay, nice job, Reds! Let's see the Marlins break this lead.

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:48 PM
A really really really big hit for Bruce.

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 10:49 PM
Okay, nice job, Reds! Let's see the Marlins break this lead.

Let's not, okay? :beerme:

BCubb2003
05-16-2013, 10:49 PM
So you cannot pitch Chapman more than 2 days in a row because he gets tired...and loses miles off his fastball...you cannot let him sit too long because of the same reason. When is it OK to pitch this guy? He has more than a fastball too.

I kind of feel sorry for the Marlins. Seriously.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:49 PM
Broxton may be the biggest waste of money in the last five years. Wasn't he re-signed for these opportunities?

Reading between the lines, I wonder if Brox is hurt.

Yesterday Lecure pitched the eighth in a competitive game.

Tonight, Hoover is warming to close out the tenth. Again close game, obviously.

Wonder what's up with Brox. Something is off.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:50 PM
Broxton may be the biggest waste of money in the last five years. Wasn't he re-signed for these opportunities?

Score a coupe more and we might see him in a mop up tonight.

Seriously

Is he not available ?

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 10:50 PM
Re: back a few..

I wouldn't be surprised if the Reds deal Heisey.

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 10:51 PM
Broxton may be the biggest waste of money in the last five years. Wasn't he re-signed for these opportunities?

Agree. Regardless of what the FO might have envisioned for Chapman at the time, we paid WAY too much money for a guy who is simply a league average reliever. Walt's first real boner and it's going to really sting if Broxton's money keeps us from re-signing Choo or Bailey.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:51 PM
Game isn't over. We want more.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:53 PM
Frazier isn't hitting at all.

WVRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:54 PM
Broxton may be the biggest waste of money in the last five years. Wasn't he re-signed for these opportunities?

Ask Dusty. Hoover is apparently a favorite for some reason.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 10:54 PM
Bruce, 3 RBI....all on hits with 2 outs.

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 10:54 PM
Reading between the lines, I wonder if Brox is hurt.

Yesterday Lecure pitched the eighth in a competitive game.

Tonight, Hoover is warming to close out the tenth. Again close game, obviously.

Wonder what's up with Brox. Something is off.

You may be right. It's puzzling to say the least. Have the Reds used the trio of Marshall-Broxton-Chapman in any game this season?

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 10:54 PM
Frazier isn't hitting at all.

I noticed that too

Isn't the two hole the magic spot?

malcontent
05-16-2013, 10:55 PM
Hanigan saved 2 or 3 wild pitches there.
Yep.

I hope his oblique holds up.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:55 PM
Ask Dusty. Hoover is apparently a favorite for some reason.

Brox obviously wasn't available last night or this. He would normally have been in one or both of these games. Don't know why.

bigredmechanism
05-16-2013, 10:55 PM
Re: back a few..

I wouldn't be surprised if the Reds deal Heisey.

Change of scenery might do him good. He seems like a good dude, but it's just not working. I wouldn't mind Walter giving him the old "Its not you.. its me... actually its definitely you."

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 10:56 PM
Had to mute the TV thought I had a chirping bug in the house.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:57 PM
Frazier is 0 for 5 tonight, BA down to .221.

Matter of concern.

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 10:58 PM
Frazier is 0 for 5 tonight, BA down to .221.

Matter of concern.

Overall yes. But tonight he put decent wood on the ball. At minimum deserved one hit.

KYRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:58 PM
What is up with this audio? Cicaidas already here?

WVRedsFan
05-16-2013, 10:58 PM
Brox obviously wasn't available last night or this. He would normally have been in one or both of these games. Don't know why.

I wonder, too. Gotta be something. Maybe Dusty will say something after the game if the Cincy reporters have the guts to ask.

Kc61
05-16-2013, 10:59 PM
Welch speculates that Brox is being rested because he will likely close tomorrow. Chappy has pitched two in a row.

He also says Hoover was already throwing so why not use him. Not sure about that one, Dusty switches off relievers all the time.

That's his explanation.

BCubb2003
05-16-2013, 10:59 PM
Chris Welsh is reading the game thread again. Hi Chris.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 10:59 PM
I don't either, but I bet Dusty does.

You do need a RH bat off the bench though....so it is more of ...do you want to keep Lutz or paul?

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 11:00 PM
One more to put the seal on the sweep.

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 11:00 PM
Chris Welsh is reading the game thread again. Hi Chris.

Hi Creeper!

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 11:00 PM
You do need a RH bat off the bench though....so it is more of ...do you want to keep Lutz or paul?

Agreed

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 11:01 PM
Agree. Regardless of what the FO might have envisioned for Chapman at the time, we paid WAY too much money for a guy who is simply a league average reliever. Walt's first real boner and it's going to really sting if Broxton's money keeps us from re-signing Choo or Bailey.

Cue Bevis and Butthead.. he said boner heh heh

krm1580
05-16-2013, 11:01 PM
You do need a RH bat off the bench though....so it is more of ...do you want to keep Lutz or paul?

I say send Lutz down and let him play every day. The guy could use everyday at bats and he will not get them at the major league level

TheBigLebowski
05-16-2013, 11:01 PM
Overall yes. But tonight he put decent wood on the ball. At minimum deserved one hit.

1-5 still lowers his average.

foxfire123
05-16-2013, 11:02 PM
I'm greedy. I want 6 in a row AND gain a game on the dingleberries.

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 11:04 PM
Darn it. Two fouls that just couldn't be caught.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 11:04 PM
Joey could have done a dive into the dugout for that one

;-)

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 11:05 PM
Nice AB... unfortunately.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 11:05 PM
I wonder, too. Gotta be something. Maybe Dusty will say something after the game if the Cincy reporters have the guts to ask.

He is obviously hurt. Hoover has not pitched badly lately but Broxton would be in if he was not hurting something.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
Got to be kidding me

foxfire123
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
A .125 for a pinch hitter?

WVRedsFan
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
Hoover. Why?

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
Okay, come on Marlins. I realize that was a taunt earlier, but yeah, I don't actually want to see it happen.

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
OK...Come on!

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
Simon warming

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 11:06 PM
Now Simon is up?

redsfaninbsg
05-16-2013, 11:07 PM
There has to be some explanation from Dusty. No Broxton and no Marshall?

Wonderful Monds
05-16-2013, 11:07 PM
He is obviously hurt. Hoover has not pitched badly lately but Broxton would be in if he was not hurting something.

I liked Welsh's explanation. Chapman will be out tomorrow, so save Broxton to close it out tomorrow.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 11:07 PM
So much for talking head theories about Broxton

Kc61
05-16-2013, 11:07 PM
Now Simon is warming up.

Why don't they just bring in Sean Marshall who understands what to do in this spot?

_Sir_Charles_
05-16-2013, 11:08 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds! Sweep!

ProfessorTofty
05-16-2013, 11:08 PM
Well, it was a bit of a rough road... but this one belongs to the Reds!

Roy Tucker
05-16-2013, 11:08 PM
There we go. Yay Reds.

foxfire123
05-16-2013, 11:08 PM
Hoover hurt himself on that 11 pitch walk? Or is gameday just locked?

Kc61
05-16-2013, 11:08 PM
Reds win. Tough to sweep on the road, good win even with the late innings problems.

Red Raindog
05-16-2013, 11:09 PM
Hoover hurt himself on that 11 pitch walk? Or is gameday just locked?

Not hurt

Got a sloppy save

RedsBrick
05-16-2013, 11:09 PM
Sweet! Keep it rollin' in Philly...

BCubb2003
05-16-2013, 11:10 PM
Chapman picks up the win.

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 11:11 PM
1-5 still lowers his average.

I know. I said at minimum.

I'm watching Todd closely because his bat is a concern. But just looking at tonight in a vacuum, I'm not concerned.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 11:12 PM
Welch speculates that Brox is being rested because he will likely close tomorrow. Chappy has pitched two in a row.

He also says Hoover was already throwing so why not use him. Not sure about that one, Dusty switches off relievers all the time.

That's his explanation.

He barely pitched today? Chapman is not a Faberge egg...good grief...he can go 3 when he barely throws any pitches in one of the other 2?

holster10
05-16-2013, 11:12 PM
I question Hanigan's pitch calling the last two innings esp. with Hoover. Hoover has a good breaking pitch but Hanigan had Hoover throw almost exclusively fastballs and eventually they caught up to it. I think with Nick Green they had him down 0-2 and didn't call for a single breaking pitch. The AB went 11 or 12 pitches and he eventually walked.

kaldaniels
05-16-2013, 11:14 PM
I thought the bench calls pitches?

RedsManRick
05-16-2013, 11:16 PM
And that, boys and girls, is why the "Win" stat for pitchers is stupid.

holster10
05-16-2013, 11:21 PM
I thought the bench calls pitches?

Bench calls plays, ie. bunting, hit and run, sacrifice, etc but typically not pitches.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 11:24 PM
Bench calls plays, ie. bunting, hit and run, sacrifice, etc but typically not pitches.

No...bench for the Reds calls the pitches. If pitcher shakes off...then it is on the Catcher.

Tony Cloninger
05-16-2013, 11:26 PM
And that, boys and girls, is why the "Win" stat for pitchers is stupid.

So throw out 100 years of baseball because sometimes the guy who gets the win does not deserve it? A lot of fans understand that the W for a pitcher stat is not as relevant as it used to be.....still does not mean you should eradicate it from the books. Sometimes you stat guys just take things to far! ;)

_Sir_Charles_
05-17-2013, 09:16 AM
No...bench for the Reds calls the pitches. If pitcher shakes off...then it is on the Catcher.

Yep.

kaldaniels
05-17-2013, 09:23 AM
So throw out 100 years of baseball because sometimes the guy who gets the win does not deserve it? A lot of fans understand that the W for a pitcher stat is not as relevant as it used to be.....still does not mean you should eradicate it from the books. Sometimes you stat guys just take things to far! ;)

I don't want to eradicate anything. But is there any other event, that a player can do in the field, that ends up poorly affecting his team, that winds up giving him a positive stat on his baseball card? It is a joke Chapman got the win, but it is what it is.

oneupper
05-17-2013, 09:36 AM
I don't want to eradicate anything. But is there any other event, that a player can do in the field, that ends up poorly affecting his team, that winds up giving him a positive stat on his baseball card? It is a joke Chapman got the win, but it is what it is.

Chapman also got a BS.
There's a stat for everything these days.

kaldaniels
05-17-2013, 09:48 AM
Chapman also got a BS.
There's a stat for everything these days.

Yeah, but the W has been a "triple crown" stat for a hundred years. The oft used "these days" remark above doesn't really apply.

Rule change: If in the last (or any?) inning a pitcher blows a save, but the offense rescues him and retakes the lead in the next half inning, the win goes to the player who was in line for the win before the BS. Or let the scorer make the call, as when a starter goes less than 5?

Would that be a good thing? Or the start of a slippery slope?