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cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 11:32 AM
Game today is at 1:10 PM and will be on the MLB Network. Great pitching matchup to boot. Frazier gets the day off. Also Mez is in there for the 2nd straight day.

Reds

1. Shin-Soo Choo (L) CF
2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Xavier Paul (L) LF
7. Jack Hannahan (L) 3B
8. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
9. Mat Latos (R) P

Mets

1. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B
2. Rick Ankiel (L) CF
3. David Wright (R) 3B
4. Lucas Duda (L) LF
5. Marlon Byrd (R) RF
6. Ike Davis (L) 1B
7. John Buck (R) C
8. Ruben Tejada (R) SS
9. Matt Harvey (R) P

texasdave
05-22-2013, 11:34 AM
Day game after a night game and Mes is back in there. Well, he is a strapping young lad.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 12:04 PM
Day game after a night game and Mes is back in there. Well, he is a strapping young lad.

Both catchers are starting after a night game. Both must be strapping. :)

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 12:07 PM
Looks like we have dueling game threads. You can close mine if you like.

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 12:07 PM
Are there two threads for this game because it's going to be doubly exciting?

CySeymour
05-22-2013, 12:08 PM
Both catchers are starting after a night game. Both must be strapping. :)

They have TWTW :D

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 12:12 PM
Interestingly...Harvey's small sample size splits show he's tougher against lefties than righties.

RHB are OPSing .481.
LBH are OPSing .358.

His strikeout to bb ratio is better against lefties too.

BAbip for Harvey at home...a paltry .167.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 12:24 PM
Wonder if something is wrong with Hannigan. Keep Murphy off the bases and Wright in the ball park and we'll be fine. If Latos is 1/2 as good as leake was last night, I'll be satisfied.

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 12:31 PM
I don't think Hannigan has played since that foul ball off his foot the other night...correct? Maybe he's sore.

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 12:50 PM
On my way to Shea/Citi, gonna be a humdinger.

holster10
05-22-2013, 12:56 PM
It looked like Frazier was starting to find his groove/ rhythm last night at the plate so why would you give him another day off? I could see it if he was continuing to flounder. And, it's not like Hannahan is tearing the cover off the ball.

RedsBrick
05-22-2013, 01:02 PM
It looked like Frazier was starting to find his groove/ rhythm last night at the plate so why would you give him another day off? I could see it if he was continuing to flounder. And, it's not like Hannahan is tearing the cover off the ball.

I wondered the same thing. Baker said Hannahan was going to play first but he didn't want to take Votto out because he's tearing it up at the plate. I'd like to see Frazier build on his good night last night. Oh well.

Hey, at least Choo is back in.

BLEEDS
05-22-2013, 01:29 PM
Game today is at 1:10 PM and will be on the MLB Network. Great pitching matchup to boot. Frazier gets the day off. Also Mez is in there for the 2nd straight day.

Reds

1. Shin-Soo Choo (L) CF
2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Xavier Paul (L) LF
7. Jack Hannahan (L) 3B
8. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
9. Mat Latos (R) P



Wait a minute - is that three left handers in a row?!?!?
Does Dusty have the day off too?!? Maybe he and Frazier are having lunch at the Carnegie deli this afternoon? !?

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elfmanvt07
05-22-2013, 02:04 PM
On my way to Shea/Citi, gonna be a humdinger.

Come visit me in 424!

elfmanvt07
05-22-2013, 02:10 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/23/u7a2yvy9.jpg

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 02:13 PM
Cozart with a single. Against Matt Harvey. Well, that was unexpected...

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 02:20 PM
Darling keeps talking about how serious the boys are. Thinks its a reaction to the post season debacle.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 02:23 PM
Keep Murphy off the bases and Wright in the ball park and we'll be fine.

Not following the game plan.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:23 PM
Latos making the outfielders do some running.

757690
05-22-2013, 02:25 PM
I'm starting to think that May is Latos' new April :(

OnBaseMachine
05-22-2013, 02:26 PM
Terrible pitch by Latos on 1-2 to Murphy. Hanging curveball, followed by a fastball right down the middle to Ankiel. Hate to say it, but with Harvey pitching, one or two runs could be enough.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:27 PM
Nice K on Duda.

TheBurn
05-22-2013, 02:28 PM
GREAT catch by Paul! :clap:

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Great catch by Paul to save a run!

elfmanvt07
05-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Ludwick doesn't make that catch.

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Paul with an amazing catch.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 02:29 PM
Great pitch to Duda, bad pitch to Byrd, outstanding play by Paul.

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 02:30 PM
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/48215948/?partnerId=as_mlb_20130522_8191074

Some in-between innings reading for all of you.

Favorite quote: "We all knew each other when we were broke," Bailey said, laughing. "Now we know each other when we're making money. We all went peanut butter and jelly sandwiches together. So it's like, 'Don't give me that s**t. I knew you back when.'"

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 02:31 PM
Ludwick doesn't make that catch.

Ludwick would have been standing right where the ball was hit and never had to move. One thing I learned last year- Ludwick plays hitters as well as anyone I've ever seen.

Still a big time play by paul.

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 02:33 PM
Come visit me in 424!

In 18. Behind the Reds OD circle.

Tom Servo
05-22-2013, 02:35 PM
I'm starting to think that May is Latos' new April :(
Good thing May is practically over.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:39 PM
Reds have a two out threat but don't score. 1-0 in the 2nd, Metzies

RiverRat13
05-22-2013, 02:41 PM
Good thing May is practically over.

This makes May Bruce :(

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 02:43 PM
In 18. Behind the Reds OD circle.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:43 PM
Latos walks a .150 hitter. ohh boy.

OnBaseMachine
05-22-2013, 02:44 PM
3-2 pitch to Ike Davis was clearly strike 3.

moewan
05-22-2013, 02:44 PM
Latos not looking sharp thus far

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 02:46 PM
6506

texasdave
05-22-2013, 02:47 PM
Beat the Mets! Defeat the Mets! Step right up and sweep the Mets!

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:49 PM
6506

Did you know you were sitting sideways? That would give me a headache. :)

Kc61
05-22-2013, 02:49 PM
This is going to be a tough game to win. Hard to sweep on the road. Tough pitcher.

Reds will need a couple of breaks. A three run homer wouldn't hurt somewhere along the way.

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-22-2013, 02:52 PM
Pretty cool, ump. That was Ball 4 to Ike Davis.

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 02:53 PM
Okay, who had Cozart with 2 hits in the pool today?

R_Webb18
05-22-2013, 02:54 PM
homerun

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-22-2013, 02:54 PM
Votto oppo! Nice!

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 02:54 PM
Votto!!!!!!

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 02:55 PM
Heather, where are you? We need some smiley icons.

PuffyPig
05-22-2013, 02:55 PM
I'm starting to think that May is Latos' new April :(

He's had one bad start this month (actually this year) and has given up 1 run today. Let's give him a chance.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 02:55 PM
I loved the green light there. Outstanding.

PuffyPig
05-22-2013, 02:55 PM
Okay, who had Cozart with 2 hits in the pool today?

Darn, I had 3.....

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 02:56 PM
Guy behind me just told his wife that Voe-toe hit the HR.

moewan
05-22-2013, 02:57 PM
Mets almost Cubsed that one

moewan
05-22-2013, 02:57 PM
Guy behind me just told his wife that Voe-toe hit the HR.

:laugh: was it a mispronunciation, or a New York accent?

OGB
05-22-2013, 02:57 PM
Say what you will about George Nacho Grande, but how can you not like, "it's gonna beeEEee, GONE" a full second and a half after the ball is caught in the stands?

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 02:57 PM
Guy behind me just told his wife that Voe-toe hit the HR.

Probably thinks the bus driver on The Simpsons was Oh-toe.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 02:57 PM
i have to conceed that awhile back I was a little upset joey wasn't being aggressive enough. Nevermind!

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 02:59 PM
That VoeToe guy is pretty good isn't he? :D

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 02:59 PM
Dusty was signing tons of balls, cards, etc before the game. Even waved to my son. Pretty cool, very fan friendly. Ondrusek was as well, both from the dugout.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 02:59 PM
Matt Harvey presumably learned something there. If you're going to pitch around top hitters, just pitch around them.

That 3-0 pitch was like batting practice for Joey. In a million years you don't throw that pitch to Votto.

First base was open, you go 3-0, don't groove it. You walk him, you walk him, life will go on.

UCBrownsfan
05-22-2013, 03:00 PM
I just never expect Votto to hit a HR anytime someone is on second and nobody on first. Can't believe he got something to hit at 3-0

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:00 PM
Dusty was signing tons of balls, cards, etc before the game. Even waved to my son. Pretty cool, very fan friendly. Ondrusek was as well, both from the dugout.


But he bats Cozart second.

PuffyPig
05-22-2013, 03:00 PM
The Reds have made Harvey throw 52 pitches already.

Pretty good considering Harvey has been throwing 60% strikes.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:01 PM
Dusty was signing tons of balls, cards, etc before the game. Even waved to my son. Pretty cool, very fan friendly. Ondrusek was as well, both from the dugout.

They did in DC too. All the Reds were really good about signing. I was very happy to see that.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:02 PM
latos having problems with the left handed hitters.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:03 PM
Cozart! Great catch!

Tom Servo
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
John Fay‏@johnfayman On a 3-0 count, Votto is 7-for-11 with a three home runs and 9 RBI. Guessing he has a permanent green light.


interesting (if true*)



*Fay is wrong, like, 90% of the time

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Does anyone else think of the scene in Slapshot whenever they hear Hanahan? If you saw the movie you know the scene I'm talking about.

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Cozart is earning his keep today

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Call the police, because Wright was straight up burglarized

OnBaseMachine
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
I missed the Votto HR, dangit.

Latos is having trouble with Ankiel off all people today.

Mitri
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Great catch by Cozart. Dude is having a game!

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Cozart taking the early lead from Joey for star of the game.

PuffyPig
05-22-2013, 03:07 PM
Guy behind me just told his wife that Voe-toe hit the HR.

Years ago in San Diego, the guy behind us said to his son when asked the name of the Reds cacther, replied... "Eddie Taa-BENSEE ". It made my kids laugh. And we still call him that.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:07 PM
Latos is finding the gloves today. 2-1 Reds after three.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:07 PM
Up the middle is not the way to go against the Red Legs.

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 03:08 PM
Does anyone else think of the scene in Slapshot whenever they hear Hanahan? If you saw the movie you know the scene I'm talking about.

I think of Fletch.

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 03:08 PM
Heather, where are you? We need some smiley icons.

A little late to the party but here you go! :jump: :lol: :D :p ;) :beerme:

JOEY VOTTO. :p

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:08 PM
I missed the Votto HR, dangit.

Latos is having trouble with Ankiel off all people today.

More of thethe opposite field power we've come to know, love, and expect from Joey

New York Red
05-22-2013, 03:09 PM
LOL at "Zaccuum". How have I not heard that before? :beerme:

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:11 PM
Paul crushed that one but still a loud out.

UCBrownsfan
05-22-2013, 03:11 PM
John Fay‏@johnfayman On a 3-0 count, Votto is 7-for-11 with a three home runs and 9 RBI. Guessing he has a permanent green light.


interesting (if true*)



*Fay is wrong, like, 90% of the time

That's career numbers... he swings maybe twice a year on 3-0

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:12 PM
Does anyone else think of the scene in Slapshot whenever they hear Hanahan? If you saw the movie you know the scene I'm talking about.

I think of Eddie Shore.

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:13 PM
I think of Fletch.

Somebodies itchin for a promotion; probably that pederast Hanrahan.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:13 PM
Wright had the choice of fielding the ball or the bat. He chose the ball and the inning is over. 2-1 Reds in the 4th.

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:15 PM
Where's Big Klu with our Reds career home run leaders list?

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:16 PM
Sometimes I think of Toe Blake.

OnBaseMachine
05-22-2013, 03:19 PM
Two outs in the 4th. Byrd flied out and Davis K's swinging.

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:20 PM
Don't worry guys, I'm here.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:20 PM
Sometimes I think of Toe Blake.

Old time hockey :thumbup:

The DARK
05-22-2013, 03:21 PM
Latos looks like he has some nasty stuff today.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 03:22 PM
Strikeout to end the inning.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:23 PM
Latos looked really good that inning. Get him a couple more runs and he should win it.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:23 PM
The shaft of that bat wound up in the same spot. Latos settling in.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:23 PM
Darling commenting on how feisty and combative Latos is.

Captain13
05-22-2013, 03:24 PM
John Fay‏@johnfayman On a 3-0 count, Votto is 7-for-11 with a three home runs and 9 RBI. Guessing he has a permanent green light.


interesting (if true*)



*Fay is wrong, like, 90% of the time

Mets announcers gave the same stat on their radio broadcast, so this may be the one in ten Fay gets right.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:24 PM
Latos having problems with the lefthanders but overwhelming the right handers.

New York Red
05-22-2013, 03:24 PM
There should be a rule banning facial hair on bat boys.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:26 PM
Neat interview with the teacher

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:28 PM
I need to get me that Go Choo headgear.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:29 PM
AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH! It's a day game today! *sigh* I've been at home and didn't even realize it! Crud.

Okay, got that off my chest. Game time! :thumbup:

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:29 PM
AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH! It's a day game today! *sigh* I've been at home and didn't even realize it! Crud.

Okay, got that off my chest. Game time! :thumbup:

Welcome aboard :beerme:

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Cozart doing his best Choo impression.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Cozart with a double, now 3 for 3!

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Who is this guy wearing the Number 2 jersey?

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Wow! What's got into Cozart today? :)

Red Raindog
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Wow! What's got into Cozart today? :)

He's back!

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Darn, I had 3.....

Looks like Puffy is our winner :thumbup:

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Welcome aboard :beerme:

I timed it well. Turn it on, Cozy 2 bagger! :beerme:

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Man, I'm really glad they didn't DFA Cozart

The DARK
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Somebody picked a good day to rediscover his bat.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Not messing around with VoeToe. Phillips needs to make Harvey pay for that.

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:31 PM
AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH! It's a day game today! *sigh* I've been at home and didn't even realize it! Crud.

Okay, got that off my chest. Game time! :thumbup:

Cozart is 3-for-3, Joey swung on a 3-0 pitch, and SirCharles is 5 innings late to a game thread.

Where am I?

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:32 PM
Cozart is 3-for-3, Joey swung on a 3-0 pitch, and SirCharles is 5 innings late to a game thread.

Where am I?

The twilight zone

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:33 PM
Wow! What's got into Cozart today? :)

Law of averages. He's not nearly this bad a hitter. His LD rate has been absurdly low so far.

Glad he's having a good day against Harvey, Reds need a few guys to figure Matt out.

edabbs44
05-22-2013, 03:33 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Harvey is the fan favorite and Ike Davis is not. Just a hunch.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM
Phillips walks.

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM
I timed it well. Turn it on, Cozy 2 bagger! :beerme:

Slacker. You missed the first two hits. :p ;) :D

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM
Jay. Let's do something here.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM
A walk, and now we have them loaded! Let's make 'em really regret that intentional walk.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM
Bases juiced for Bruuuuuuuuuuuce

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:34 PM
So....when does George Grande go back into retirement? *sigh*

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:35 PM
Bruce's stinkface has been exceptional today.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:36 PM
Slacker. You missed the first two hits. :p ;) :D

Slacker is spot on. I've been home for a few hours just messing around and watching game of thrones. I could've swore it was a night game today. But apparently this lazy bum was too lazy to check. :O)

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 03:37 PM
And we strand the bases loaded. (sigh)

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:37 PM
Sure would've liked to add on there

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:37 PM
Bruce bounces out to end the inning.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:37 PM
Looks like Jay's hot streak is over.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:37 PM
Harvey gets out of bases loaded situation, but now has 90 pitches.

C'mon Mets, you don't want to risk the kid's future. Don't want him throwing any more pitches. 90 is enough.

cumberlandreds
05-22-2013, 03:38 PM
Looks like Jay's hot streak is over.


Matt Harvey will end a lot of hit streaks.

New York Red
05-22-2013, 03:39 PM
And we strand the bases loaded. (sigh)
Shhh ... LOB don't matter. ;)

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 03:39 PM
Slacker is spot on. I've been home for a few hours just messing around and watching game of thrones. I could've swore it was a night game today. But apparently this lazy bum was too lazy to check. :O)

Hey, it's not early in the season anymore...better get that lazy bum into shape! LOL ;) :p :beerme: :thumbup:

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:39 PM
Looks like Jay's hot streak is over.

I think it's more likely this pitcher has Jay figured out pretty well.

The second strike call was probably a big factor there, getting Jay down 0-2.

It was a checked swing, frankly was a very close decision made by third base umpire.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:40 PM
Double for Tejada.

Trouble.

Red Raindog
05-22-2013, 03:42 PM
agree with talking heads -- why that pitch at 0-2?

NebraskaRed
05-22-2013, 03:44 PM
what's with the high pitched screeching from the crowd? are the Beatles playing?

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:44 PM
agree with talking heads -- why that pitch at 0-2?

I've noticed that Latos doesn't waste a lot of pitches. Noticed this since he came to the Reds.

He's very pitch efficient, but sometimes I think he makes them too good, too often.

But that's his style of pitching.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 03:44 PM
Sacrifice fly, throw to the plate was no good. Run scores, now tied.

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:44 PM
Really bad throw by Jay there.

Red Raindog
05-22-2013, 03:44 PM
dang good throw has him at home but not easy from that angle

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:44 PM
Sac fly tie game :thumbdown:

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Too bad, I love when Bruce guns people at home.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Crud, Jay's throw off line. He was still drifting towards left. 2-2

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Wow! What's got into Cozart today? :)

I think those two days off really helped. Probably sat next to Dusty and watched other hitters and talked about his approach.

Red Raindog
05-22-2013, 03:45 PM
what's with the high pitched screeching from the crowd? are the Beatles playing?

may be a bunch of young Korean girls are there

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-22-2013, 03:46 PM
So is that inside corner just nonexistent for Latos? C'mon blue.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:46 PM
This run was avoidable. Latos just made it too easy for pitcher to bunt on an 0-2 pitch.

Now the Reds need to run up Harvey's pitch count and get him out of this game. He has 90 pitches through five innings, make him work next inning, maybe get to the bullpen.

elfmanvt07
05-22-2013, 03:46 PM
may be a bunch of young Korean girls are there

Now batting for the Mets, Justin Bieber.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:46 PM
That was just rare good baseball from the Mets.

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:46 PM
I went back and watched highlights from the Angels game, and Mike Trout is just incredible to see. There's no way a guy his size should be able to move like he did on that triple. And 8 RBI....damn.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:48 PM
This should be Harvey's last inning

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:50 PM
Scoreboard stumper. Who was the first red to hit two home runs in one inning? Ted Klususky.:confused:

Red Raindog
05-22-2013, 03:50 PM
nice leather from Tejada

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 03:51 PM
Frank Robinson?

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:51 PM
Nice play by Tejada :thumbdown:

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:51 PM
Wow. Heck of a play by Tejada.

TheBurn
05-22-2013, 03:51 PM
Watching the Mets feed... apparently Latos not happy with Bruce, having 'words' in the dugout between innings. :dunno:

MBZags
05-22-2013, 03:51 PM
I'm watching the Mets broadcast. Did the Reds broadcast show Latos and Bruce getting pretty heated in the dugout?

Edit: scooped

Tadasimha
05-22-2013, 03:52 PM
Be nice for Latos to help himself with a 2 run jack.

Yeah, it would have been - fly out to right

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:52 PM
I'm watching the Mets broadcast. Did the Reds broadcast show Latos and Bruce getting pretty heated in the dugout?

Edit: scooped

No they didn't

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:53 PM
Watching the Mets feed... apparently Latos not happy with Bruce, having 'words' in the dugout between innings. :dunno:

Yes, and apparently BP calmed things down.

Latos up now. Very unfortunate they caught that on camera. Latos seemingly unhappy with Bruce's throw.

Red Soup
05-22-2013, 03:53 PM
I'm sitting at a bar at JFK and the Mets broadcast is on... They showed a rather heated argument between Bruce and Latos between innings. Not sure if Latos was upset with the throw, but it seemed rather tense.

For what it's worth.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:53 PM
Scoreboard stumper. Who was the first red to hit two home runs in one inning? Ted Klususky.:confused:

I remember Ray Knight doing it. But I'm guessing somebody did it before him. That was early 80's IIRC.

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:53 PM
I'm watching the Mets broadcast. Did the Reds broadcast show Latos and Bruce getting pretty heated in the dugout?

Edit: scooped

No

757690
05-22-2013, 03:53 PM
Scoreboard stumper. Who was the first red to hit two home runs in one inning? Ted Klususky.:confused:

Ray Knight did it in 1980. I think a Red has done it since then, but can't remember who.

Edit: it's the first Red? Then it's definitely Knight,

ThatPitchIsDunn
05-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Watching the Mets feed... apparently Latos not happy with Bruce, having 'words' in the dugout between innings. :dunno:

It kinda seemed like typical Latos though - super fiery personality. Bruce was defending himself, but they weren't at each other's throats or anything.

That's why you gotta love BP though - after, he goes and makes sure Bruce is chilled out.

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Mat was just telling Jay that he needs to go on more Twitter rants.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:55 PM
Latos has a temper. Hopefully he's pro enough to apologise. But it would be easy for the boys to pack this one in after taking the first two, and I like the fact that latos isn't going to let that happen.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:55 PM
Latos has a reputation for showing emotion during the game.

He might be frustrated this season, he only has 4 wins, he should have more. Lot of tough games, some bullpen failure. Still . . . .

Reds have a good chance today, Harvey at 100 pitches, Reds may have a shot against the pen. But Mat needs to hold the fort.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:57 PM
That was close, loud strike

OGB
05-22-2013, 03:57 PM
Is anybody else not terribly impressed with Harvey. Sure he's young and he's been good, but there was SO much hype preceding him. Also have to take into account that his defense has made some nice plays and that Paul's shot to the edge of the track is gone in a lot of parks.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 03:58 PM
Mets have been playing good baseball the last two innings. We will have to step up.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Mets announcers point out that Latos' numbers get much worse third time through the order.

Dusty has a full bullpen today, day off tomorrow. Shouldn't be afraid to use the pen if Latos shows any sign of slipping.

Last 9 games, Reds starters have a 1.44 ERA according to Mets TV guys.

Double for Duda. I would get the pen ready.

moewan
05-22-2013, 03:59 PM
One out double for the duda

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Mets announcers point out that Latos' numbers get much worse third time through the order.


Isn't that sort of true for every starting pitcher?

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Is anybody else not terribly impressed with Harvey. Sure he's young and he's been good, but there was SO much hype preceding him. Also have to take into account that his defense has made some nice plays and that Paul's shot to the edge of the track is gone in a lot of parks.

I'm guessing we're not catching him on a good day.

1 out double from Duda. Some really good swings off Latos that AB.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Agreed, no reason not to use the bullpen if it seems at all like we need it. Is anyone even up?

OGB
05-22-2013, 04:00 PM
Mat was just telling Jay that he needs to go on more Twitter rants.

"Jay, why aren't you following my wife's cat on twitter?"

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:00 PM
0-2 count on Byrd, c'mon Latos nothing too good.

Mes sets up outside, Latos comes in with it on a breaking pitch, foul ball.

Latos, nothing too good.

elfmanvt07
05-22-2013, 04:00 PM
Agreed, no reason not to use the bullpen if it seems at all like we need it. Is anyone even up?

Not that I can see from 424.

MBZags
05-22-2013, 04:00 PM
Mets announcers now asking whether Latos will get mad at Bruce for not catching that. :D

JB12
05-22-2013, 04:01 PM
Are all of the Mets hits doubles thus far?

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:02 PM
Byrd grounds out. Again Mes set up outside and I thought Latos got it a little close to the strike zone.

But a one hopper to Cozart.

Ike Davis up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:02 PM
Ground out to short. 2 down. Nice pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:02 PM
Are all of the Mets hits doubles thus far?

yep. 5 doubles.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 04:03 PM
Long fly for out and we get out of trouble. Now to the 7th.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:03 PM
Davis flies deep to Choo.

Didn't like Latos' pitching that inning, I think he's gassed. I would go to the pen next inning. Good outing, enough.

moewan
05-22-2013, 04:04 PM
I've been impressed with Choo's defense

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:04 PM
Fly out to center. Some VERY hard hit balls that inning. I'd put Latos on a short leash from here on out.

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 04:04 PM
Those Mets announcers sound like they can't come up with much good to say about their own team so they're doing everything they can to strum up some controversy for the Reds today. That's kind of pathetic IMO. :eek:

50YrRedsFan
05-22-2013, 04:04 PM
Davis flies deep to Choo.

Didn't like Latos' pitching that inning. I would go to the pen next inning. Good outing, enough.

Latos missing up in the zone that inning....must be tiring.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 04:05 PM
Buck impresses me but no reason to groove one to Davis with first base open and the righthander on deck. Lucky.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:05 PM
Isn't that sort of true for every starting pitcher?

Mets announcers made that point. But they read Latos' numbers and the drop off is pretty substantial. Mets announcers think more of a drop off than average.

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 04:06 PM
In the pregame, Dusty said that the entire bullpen is available today. Use it now please.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 04:06 PM
Those Mets announcers sound like they can't come up with much good to say about their own team so they're doing everything they can to strum up some controversy for the Reds today. That's kind of pathetic IMO. :eek:\

Actually Darling has been complimenting the Reds for three days now. Said BP was one of his serious players. Loves the Red's seriousness. Mets announcers are pros.

Tom Servo
05-22-2013, 04:07 PM
Those Mets announcers sound like they can't come up with much good to say about their own team so they're doing everything they can to strum up some controversy for the Reds today. That's kind of pathetic IMO. :eek:
I still remember Keith Hernandez bashing BP back in 06/07 for "having a bad attitude" and whenever something went poorly for the Reds he would say "...and that's why the Reds are in last place".


Hey Keith, how has the cellar been treating you guys the last several years? :D

moewan
05-22-2013, 04:07 PM
Harvey 100 mph on his 100 pitch

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:07 PM
Latos missing up in the zone that inning....must be tiring.

Yes, I think Mat has had it.

Issue here, of course, is that Dusty will want Latos to get the win, will want to show his loyalty, which is an admirable trait.

But IMO in this particular situation, with an off day tomorrow, I'd go to the pen right now.

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 04:08 PM
I still remember Keith Hernandez bashing BP back in 06/07 for "having a bad attitude" and whenever something went poorly for the Reds he would say "...and that's why the Reds are in last place".


Hey Keith, how has the cellar been treating you guys the last several years? :D

Keith is ok. Incredible ego but calls it like he sees it and alwas insightful. Never boring.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:08 PM
Harvey has really shut the Reds down, except for one ridiculous pitch to Votto. Just a bad decision there.

Kid doesn't look overpowering today, but he's definitely a quality pitcher, good stuff and control, durable.

Has given Bruce fits today.

Four hits for Cozart.

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 04:09 PM
Haha, Cozy on again.

OGB
05-22-2013, 04:09 PM
Did George just say he threw 121 pitches last time out? As I type it they show he averages 104 pitches per start, and here he is today at 107 and counting. Is their manager/front office insane?

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 04:09 PM
Cozart with 4 hits off Matt Harvey. *throws hands up in the air* I give up!

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:09 PM
4 for 4 baby! Great game Cozy!

TheBurn
05-22-2013, 04:09 PM
Cozart en fuego :thumbup:
And now Votto with a hit.

OesterPoster
05-22-2013, 04:10 PM
Make 'em pay boys.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:10 PM
Right back up the middle. Votto single. Hitting MACHINE!

Tom Servo
05-22-2013, 04:10 PM
Dusty knew 40+ games of Cozart doing nothing hitting second would eventually pay off.

50YrRedsFan
05-22-2013, 04:10 PM
Cozart and Votto with 6 of our 8 hits today. Gotta get some offense from other guys.

klw
05-22-2013, 04:11 PM
Next year's SAT baseball section will have the following question;

Cozart is to Harvey as Choo is to ________

A. Arroyo
B. Kershaw
C. Koufax
D. Ruth.

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 04:12 PM
I'm going to the game Friday, hope Dusty doesn't rest Votto.

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 04:12 PM
Next year's SAT baseball section will have the following question;

Cozart is to Harvey as Choo is to ________

A. Arroyo
B. Kershaw
C. Koufax
D. Ruth.

:beerme:

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:12 PM
Those Mets announcers sound like they can't come up with much good to say about their own team so they're doing everything they can to strum up some controversy for the Reds today. That's kind of pathetic IMO. :eek:

Well, the Mets are a bad team and it's only May, it's a tough job to announce for them.

The Mets announcers are pretty good, far better than most of the Central announcers I hear watching games on Extra Innings. I like Ron Darling very much. He knows the opposition well, that's unusual.

JB12
05-22-2013, 04:12 PM
MLB.com's gameday just gave this tidbit of "scout" info during BP's at bat:

"Matt Harvey may prefer to go after Brandon Phillips, whose OPS is .776 this season, with the changeup rather than facing Shin-Soo Choo, whose OPS is .974."

?:confused:

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
DatDude!!!!

OGB
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
Who got preemptively rewarded for that Cozart 3 hit prediction? Take that trophy away. I said 5 hits. Looks like I still have a shot.:D

TheBurn
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
BP does it... and the Reds take the lead.
Up 3-2 :clap:

Tadasimha
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
Get back!

BP occasionally lets himself get caught up running - glad the Mets didn't notice in time.

ProfessorTofty
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
Nice job by Phillips! Runners at the corners now and Reds in the lead.

And we have a pitching change.

New York Red
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
Another meaningless Ribeye for Brandon. :beerme:

moewan
05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
Nice, Latos inline for the w, bullpen time

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 04:14 PM
Tsk tsk to whoever is letting Harvey throw all these pitches this early in his season/career.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:14 PM
3-2 Reds. I thought that would've been a double, but Phillips races back to 1st.

Harvey's done.

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the comments on the Mets announcers. I was reading what you guys had said about the 'fight' between Mat and Jay in the dugout and it sounded rather petty overall so I had a bad impression from them showing that in their broadcast. Talks like that between teammates probably happen every single day...no need for any broadcast to show that to the fans. Again, just my opinion and I'm glad to hear that the Mets guys are actually pretty solid. :)

Hey, we got the lead while I was typing! Maybe I should keep typing, LOL :laugh:

New York Red
05-22-2013, 04:15 PM
Did George just say he threw 121 pitches last time out? As I type it they show he averages 104 pitches per start, and here he is today at 107 and counting. Is their manager/front office insane?
They said he regularly threw in the 120-pitch range in college. He's a horse.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:15 PM
:beerme:
Heather, you are NOT supposed to post SAT answers on the internet. Shame on you. :laugh:

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:15 PM
Mets manager really deserves to be criticized for leaving Harvey out there so long today. Young kid threw 116 pitches, had to face the middle of the Reds order still again.

It's not a workload thing. Harvey is a strong young man. It's an effectiveness thing. Close, tough ballgame, pros like Votto, Phillips up there, you go to the pen.

If Dusty is wise, he'll lift Latos unless Reds take a big lead. Then it matters less.

Sometimes I wonder about the "feel" these MLB managers have for starting pitchers and when to leave them in.

VR
05-22-2013, 04:16 PM
Nice, Latos inline for the w, bullpen time

At least 1 if not 2 more for Mat. Ride that horse

REDREAD
05-22-2013, 04:16 PM
4 for 4 baby! Great game Cozy!

Cozart wanted to make sure no one won the RZ pool :)
Great game for him.

TheBurn
05-22-2013, 04:16 PM
Votto scores!

WildcatFan
05-22-2013, 04:16 PM
Ike Davis is a mess.

moewan
05-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Brain cramp by Ike Davis

Mutaman
05-22-2013, 04:17 PM
That C trent said today:

"till there’s a debate of who is the Reds MVP is between Shin-Soo Choo and Joey Votto. Everyone else is a distant third."

I think that fellow mho is always smiling is right up there.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Thanks for the comments on the Mets announcers. I was reading what you guys had said about the 'fight' between Mat and Jay in the dugout and it sounded rather petty overall so I had a bad impression from them showing that in their broadcast. Talks like that between teammates probably happen every single day...no need for any broadcast to show that to the fans. Again, just my opinion and I'm glad to hear that the Mets guys are actually pretty solid. :)

Hey, we got the lead while I was typing! Maybe I should keep typing, LOL :laugh:

Heather, I'm sure it wasn't the announcers who decided to show the argument in the dugout.

It was on the TV telecast. They showed the argument clearly. I'm sure it's the telecast director who made that call, not the announcers.

OGB
05-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Tsk tsk to whoever is letting Harvey throw all these pitches this early in his season/career.

Agreed. They're out of their dang minds.

Also nice call to whoever said Ray Knight on the trivia.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Wow, it WAS Ray Knight. I really thought it would've happened before then.

Grounder to 1st, Votto scores. 4-2.

REDREAD
05-22-2013, 04:19 PM
That C trent said today:

"till there’s a debate of who is the Reds MVP is between Shin-Soo Choo and Joey Votto. Everyone else is a distant third."

I think that fellow mho is always smiling is right up there.

Yep, Phillips is not a distant third by any means.. he's in the discussion.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:19 PM
Reds up two, but this game isn't over. Mets will fight like heck to avoid a sweep at home.

Dusty needs to active manage his pitching here. Go with the better relievers, don't leave Mat out there much longer.

moewan
05-22-2013, 04:19 PM
Who ever called Ray Knight for the trivia, kudos.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:19 PM
I've seen several reds chatting with Latos the past 2 innings. He keeps shaking his head yes. Now Votto. I'm guessing everybody's asking him if he's calmed down now and he knows he overreacted.

HeatherC1212
05-22-2013, 04:19 PM
Heather, I'm sure it wasn't the announcers who decided to show the argument in the dugout.

It was on the TV telecast. They showed the argument clearly. I'm sure it's the telecast director who made that call, not the announcers.

Gotcha. Thanks for the info. At least I know who the tacky one is now, LOL :laugh: :thumbup:

I look pretty smart today having Zack, Joey, and Brandon (along with the Reds pitching staff) on my fantasy team this year! :beerme:

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:20 PM
Yep, Phillips is not a distant third by any means.. he's in the discussion.

Choo actually has slumped during this road trip. His numbers are still so good so people don't focus on it too much.

Right now, Votto is clearly the team MVP. Which you can say almost any time, it's usually true.

Tom Servo
05-22-2013, 04:21 PM
Scott Rice is leading the league in relief appearances so far. More evidence that big money towards relievers isn't money particularly well spent.

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:21 PM
Who ever called Ray Knight for the trivia, kudos.

Well, I did...and I didn't. I knew he'd done it, but I really assumed that someone must've done it before him...especially considering how long we've been around. Oh well.

Has anybody done it after Ray? Somebody posted that they thought someone did.

OGB
05-22-2013, 04:21 PM
They said he regularly threw in the 120-pitch range in college. He's a horse.

There was an episode of Mr. Ed where he had a try out with the Dodgers and hit an inside the park home run complete with a slide in to home. I'm pretty sure Harvey's a human, though.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:21 PM
Now Mets are showing Collins and Ike Davis in dugout. Collins might be telling Ike you need to charge the ball and cut off the runner at home. Ike kind of stayed back.

Interesting telecast.

HalMorrisRules
05-22-2013, 04:22 PM
You can file this under things I thought I'd never see. Cozart is trending on Twitter.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
05-22-2013, 04:23 PM
That C trent said today:

"till there’s a debate of who is the Reds MVP is between Shin-Soo Choo and Joey Votto. Everyone else is a distant third."

I think that fellow mho is always smiling is right up there.

Sometimes I forget how good BP has been as a Red. Since 2009, Phillips has the 24th highest WAR in all of baseball. Votto is 3rd.

Kc61
05-22-2013, 04:23 PM
Scott Rice is leading the league in relief appearances so far. More evidence that big money towards relievers isn't money particularly well spent.

Lefty specialist. Not a good example.

Now a lead off single off Latos. Just don't understand why Dusty lets him go longer in this game.

Pitch count is ok, but it's been a tough, close game. I just wouldn't handle it this way.

moewan
05-22-2013, 04:23 PM
There was an episode of Mr. Ed where he had a try out with the Dodgers and hit an inside the park home run complete with a slide in to home. I'm pretty sure Harvey's a human, though.

T.V. Land needs to air Mr Ed

_Sir_Charles_
05-22-2013, 04:23 PM
Lead off single to center for Buck.

If nobody's up yet...I get someone up. If someone IS ready, I go get him if another reaches.