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NebraskaRed
06-07-2013, 04:29 PM
Reds:

Choo 8
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Paul 7
Mesoraco 2
Leake 1

Cardinals:

Carpenter 4
Beltran 9
Holliday 7
Craig 3
Molina 2
Freese 5
Jay 8
Kozma 6
Wainwright 1

CardsFanBob
06-07-2013, 04:30 PM
Looking forward to this series. Wish I could have made it down. Still need to get to Cinci sometime soon.

Maldez
06-07-2013, 04:37 PM
The way STL is playing dare we hope to win as many as 2 games? The GAB will be rockin' and the players into it big time, just for Dusty's sake, but STL seems like a runaway train right now.

CardsFanBob
06-07-2013, 04:42 PM
Way too early in the season to be talking like that, Maldez. This is a huge test for the Birds. I'm glad we have Waino and Lynn starting two of the three. Lyons makes me a tad nervous in your park... and he doesn't start games well (but finishes very strong).

Vottomatic
06-07-2013, 04:54 PM
Career batting average vs. Leake
Matt Carpenter - 1 for 2, single, .500
Yadier Molina - 4 for 12, double, HR, .333
Matt Holliday - 6 for 14, double, .429
Allen Craig - 0-6,
Carlos Beltran - 1-15, 1 HR, 4 K's, .067
David Freese - 4-8, double, HR, .500
D. Descalso - 1-3, .333
Jon Jay 3-12, double, .250

Career batting average vs. Wainwright
Choo - 1-3, .333
Cozart - 1-11, .091
Votto - 2-20, double, .100
Phillips - 10-36, double, HR, .278
Bruce - 6-21, 1 HR, .286, 8 K's
Frazier - 2-8, double, HR, .250
Paul - 0-5, 1 K
Mesoraco - 0-2, 1 K

Ludwick is 3-10, .300 with a double and HR against his buddy.

On paper, looks like a sure fire loss.

But that's why they play the games. :thumbup:

CySeymour
06-07-2013, 05:15 PM
Obviously, the worst case scenario is getting swept, as that would put the Reds 6 back. If the Reds can just keep from being swept, and only lose 1 game in the standings, then I'll be ok.

Chapman should be well rested, as well. Was Monday the last time he pitched?

malcontent
06-07-2013, 05:35 PM
I'm glad to see Craig instead of Adams tonight.

11larkin11
06-07-2013, 05:38 PM
What are the Cards' lines vs. the "New Leake"?

CySeymour
06-07-2013, 05:48 PM
I just saw it reported that Dave Duncan's wife passed away. May she RIP.

Magdal
06-07-2013, 05:48 PM
I'm glad to see Craig instead of Adams tonight.Really? Adams has done little since April. He (and 4 other Cards) jumped on fat pitches right down central last nite. Any time you see Holliday hit one out the pitcher made a mistake.

The lineup snafu for the Cards tonite is not playing LHB Descalso, who is smokin' hot in favor of an ice cold RHB Kosma. Rediculous.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 05:49 PM
Here's hoping Leake is still the Leake of late, Votto's mini-slump ends and Choo's loooong drought is over. Time to take care of business.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 05:50 PM
I just saw it reported that Dave Duncan's wife passed away. May she RIP.
Add my condolences as well.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 05:54 PM
Doesn't look to be a likely night for Joey to break out of his little slump. Hopefully the "new" Leake can't shut the Cards down.

NebraskaRed
06-07-2013, 05:56 PM
Doesn't look to be a likely night for Joey to break out of his little slump. Hopefully the "new" Leake can't shut the Cards down.

Well, that's just your opinion, man. I hope Leake CAN shut the Cards down. ;)

Red Buckeye
06-07-2013, 05:56 PM
Obviously, the worst case scenario is getting swept, as that would put the Reds 6 back. If the Reds can just keep from being swept, and only lose 1 game in the standings, then I'll be ok.

Chapman should be well rested, as well. Was Monday the last time he pitched?

You'll be cool with it if the Reds lose the series? What?:confused:

Not me. Cincy needs to AT LEAST take 2/3, but a sweep is really what is needed.

Don't be scared of the WLB's, the Reds WILL win this series.

redhat
06-07-2013, 05:57 PM
Cardinals
M Carpenter 2B
C Beltran RF
M Holliday LF
A Craig 1B
Y Molina C
D Freese 3B
J Jay CF
P Kozma SS
A Wainwright P

Reds
S Choo CF
Z Cozart SS
J Votto 1B
B Phillips 2B
J Bruce RF
T Frazier 3B
X Paul LF
D Mesoraco C
M Leake P

malcontent
06-07-2013, 05:58 PM
Really? Adams has done little since April. He (and 4 other Cards) jumped on fat pitches right down central last nite. Any time you see Holliday hit one out the pitcher made a mistake.

The lineup snafu for the Cards tonite is not playing LHB Descalso, who is smokin' hot in favor of an ice cold RHB Kosma. Rediculous.
Does Descalso play a serviceable SS, Maggie?

NebraskaRed
06-07-2013, 05:59 PM
Did this turn into a game thread somehow?

PuffyPig
06-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Cards have been scuffling too of late, their pitchers are starting to give up a ton of runs lately.

PuffyPig
06-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Does Descalso play a serviceable SS, Maggie?

He does not.

CySeymour
06-07-2013, 06:02 PM
You'll be cool with it if the Reds lose the series? What?:confused:

Not me. Cincy needs to AT LEAST take 2/3, but a sweep is really what is needed.

Don't be scared of the WLB's, the Reds WILL win this series.

Of course I WANT the Reds to win the series. Shoot, I want them to sweep! But just trying to keep my sanity in check a bit.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 06:07 PM
Seems weird to have this here. Just transfer it to a game thread I say. But whatever.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 06:10 PM
The way STL is playing dare we hope to win as many as 2 games? The GAB will be rockin' and the players into it big time, just for Dusty's sake, but STL seems like a runaway train right now.

Dare we hope?!? Screw that! I wanna sweep! :thumbup:

Time to beat-down some Redbirds! :beerme:

Magdal
06-07-2013, 06:16 PM
He does not.Kosma is better, but not enough to justify the benching a guy that has more (WAY more) XBH's than Kosma has singles in their last 40 or so AB's!

Kosma in a deep funk, and DD hot as a pistol. I would think that Matheny would want all the offense he could muster as the Cards ALWAYS struggle after a huge run output game like last night.

You boys might want to check out this article on CBS sports. The Reds have an opportunity to take over the EOB Heavyweight Belt currently held by the Cards, and controlled by only NLC teams since the 1st week of the season. Only the Cubs and the Reds have failed to step up.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/eye-on-baseball/22363414/cards-vanquish-communist-dbacks-retain-eob-heavyweight-title

It's a just for fun thing, but worth a look I think.

TOBTTReds
06-07-2013, 06:40 PM
Obviously, the worst case scenario is getting swept, as that would put the Reds 6 back. If the Reds can just keep from being swept, and only lose 1 game in the standings, then I'll be ok.

Chapman should be well rested, as well. Was Monday the last time he pitched?

Come on man, gotta shake that loser mentality. Gotta take 2 here at home.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 06:40 PM
I do believe the Cardinal fans will have a place to post tonight. :O)

Let's keep it civil on BOTH sides guys. Root for your team, poke fun at the opposition...it's a game, not personal.

*crosses fingers* Hey, it's worth a shot. ;) :beerme: ;)

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 06:47 PM
The way STL is playing dare we hope to win as many as 2 games? The GAB will be rockin' and the players into it big time, just for Dusty's sake, but STL seems like a runaway train right now.

Runaway trains eventually fly off the track and crash.

Just sayin'....

CySeymour
06-07-2013, 06:52 PM
Come on man, gotta shake that loser mentality. Gotta take 2 here at home.

Like I said...I WANT them to sweep. Just trying to keep my sanity.

Maldez
06-07-2013, 07:16 PM
Dare we hope?!? Screw that! I wanna sweep! :thumbup:

Time to beat-down some Redbirds! :beerme:

Of course, we all WANT a sweep, I'm just trying to guard myself against a major letdown, coward that I am.

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 07:31 PM
Of course, we all WANT a sweep, I'm just trying to guard myself against a major letdown, coward that I am.

You and me both Maldez. I'm feeling fatalistic right now. :(

Was it good or bad that the first thing I saw when I walked outside this morning was a Cardinal on the deck railing? :confused:

Larry Schuler
06-07-2013, 07:35 PM
It wouldn't be the most humiliating thing for the Reds to be swept by the Cardinals. This year's Cards team will go down in history as one of the best lineups and pitching staffs in the modern era. Statues of Kozma and Carpenter will be bronzed and placed in front of the Hall of Fame and we will tell our children of the sweet pleasure of being able to say our Reds even shared the same field as them.

NebraskaRed
06-07-2013, 07:39 PM
It wouldn't be the most humiliating thing for the Reds to be swept by the Cardinals. This year's Cards team will go down in history as one of the best lineups and pitching staffs in the modern era. Statues of Kozma and Carpenter will be bronzed and placed in front of the Hall of Fame and we will tell our children of the sweet pleasure of being able to say our Reds even shared the same field as them.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/131/399/fry.PNG?1307468855

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 07:59 PM
You and me both Maldez. I'm feeling fatalistic right now. :(

Was it good or bad that the first thing I saw when I walked outside this morning was a Cardinal on the deck railing? :confused:

That depends....did you shoot it with a BB gun? And did it have neck tats?



(Very much kidding btw)

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:02 PM
Hey, I enjoy watching actual cardinal birds and listening to their song. Doesn't mean diddly. The Cardinal is our state bird.

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 08:07 PM
Hey, I enjoy watching actual cardinal birds and listening to their song. Doesn't mean diddly. The Cardinal is our state bird.

And how ironic is it that the state bird of Missouri is the BLUEbird? :laugh:

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:07 PM
Hey, I enjoy watching actual cardinal birds and listening to their song. Doesn't mean diddly. The Cardinal is our state bird.

I know. I'm an avid bird watcher too. And the cardinal is my favorite. Just going for a laugh. I break for PIGEONS. (dead serious this time)

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:10 PM
Speaking of birds, what was that bird they had on there just now? Looked like some sort of buzzard, somebody from the Cincinnati Zoo carrying it.


Oh, never mind. It was a bald eagle. :D

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 08:12 PM
Hey, I LIKE birds, and goodness knows we feed 'em enough, but a Cardinal of any sort was not what I needed to see at 6am on the opening day of a Reds-Cards series... lol!

At my feeders, I personally think Blue Jays are a strikingly beautiful bird, and prefer the cardinal hens over the males. There's something... elegant... about their more demure coloration. :)

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Great play by Votto

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Hey, I LIKE birds, and goodness knows we feed 'em enough, but a Cardinal of any sort was not what I needed to see at 6am on the opening day of a Reds-Cards series... lol!

At my feeders, I personally think Blue Jays are a strikingly beautiful bird, and prefer the cardinal hens over the males. There's something... elegant... about their more demure coloration. :)
Maybe all it represented was that you would be seeing more Cardinals this evening.

Matt Carpenter is out on a groundout.

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Hate these people.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Well, that's just your opinion, man. I hope Leake CAN shut the Cards down. ;)
Yikes, serious typo there. Embarrassed. :beerme:

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:15 PM
Beltran flies out to left.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:15 PM
Beltran is out a fly ball.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:16 PM
Holliday is on with a double.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:16 PM
Holliday lines a double to left center that goes past Paul

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 08:16 PM
Xavier Paul is a bad outfielder.

Sincerely,
Adam Dunn

New York Red
06-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Three straight hard hit balls. Good thing two were "at 'em balls".

New York Red
06-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Xavier Paul is a bad outfielder.

Sincerely,
Adam Dunn
Ouch.

jojo
06-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Three straight hard hit balls. Good thing two were "at 'em balls".

Sometimes it pays to be lucky but it rarely pays to mistake luck for skill.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:19 PM
Great play by Votto

LOL. Thanks for this post RF. I was sitting here chatting about birds and lost track of the time...didn't realize the game started yet. :O)

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Nice. Craig strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Thom seems to be channeling his inner George Grande tonight, geez.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Craig strikes out, and that's the end of the first half of the first inning.

Gallen5862
06-07-2013, 08:21 PM
The game is on MLB network in case anyone didn't know.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 08:21 PM
A lot of pitches and three hard hit ones, but Leake walks off the mound unscathed.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:21 PM
K

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:25 PM
Choo strikes out swinging

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:25 PM
Cozart flies out to right.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 08:26 PM
Cozart with his patented pop up. 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:27 PM
Votto singles to right

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:27 PM
Votto lays down a base hit. One on first.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:29 PM
Phillips grounds out. Man, that replay of that hit by pitch sure made it look nasty.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 08:29 PM
Reds out in the 1st, no score

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:29 PM
Phillips grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 1.

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 08:29 PM
Understandably, BP looked a little skittish during that first AB.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 08:30 PM
We really need Leake to go deep in this game......major concern if we have to use many bullpen guys.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 08:30 PM
Didn't lead to anything, but hopefully that base knock by Joey is the start of a huge series for him.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:32 PM
Molina pops out to short

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:32 PM
Molina pops out.

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 08:33 PM
Retiring Molina is always a pleasant surprise. :beerme:

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:34 PM
Freese grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:36 PM
Jay flies out to left. 0-0 mid 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:36 PM
Leake looking solid. Keep it going Mike!

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 08:40 PM
I do believe the Cardinal fans will have a place to post tonight. :O)

Let's keep it civil on BOTH sides guys. Root for your team, poke fun at the opposition...it's a game, not personal.

*crosses fingers* Hey, it's worth a shot. ;) :beerme: ;)

bwahahahaha

you are funny!

Magdal
06-07-2013, 08:40 PM
Leake looking solid. Keep it going Mike!You know what I hate? A pitchers duel! Let's get some runs!!!!

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:41 PM
Bruce strikes out looking.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:41 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:41 PM
You know what I hate? A pitchers duel! Let's get some runs!!!!

You know what I love? A pitchers duel! Let's see some defense!!!

Different strokes. :O)

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 08:42 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging.

error --- took it right downtown

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:42 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging.
I didn't see any swing.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:42 PM
Frazier strikes out swinging

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 08:42 PM
long night if that is a strike

Gizmo
06-07-2013, 08:43 PM
maybe he meant Frazier.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:43 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging.

Clearly RF meant the Bruce was "swinging" around towards the dugout.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 08:43 PM
maybe he meant Frazier.

seeing into the future -- now that is a talent!

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:45 PM
Paul strikes out swinging, and the inning's over.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:45 PM
Paul strikes out swinging. 4 Ks for Wainwright. 0-0 after 2.

Gizmo
06-07-2013, 08:45 PM
on the bright side, at least we didn't score 4...

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 08:48 PM
Ervin = good lookin' kid. Looks like a real athlete.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 08:49 PM
huh -- that 3rd pitch was better than the strike call to Frazier -- but we don't get the call

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:49 PM
Kozma strikes out swinging

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:51 PM
Wainwright grounds out to 3rd.

Magdal
06-07-2013, 08:52 PM
Kozma strikes out swingingDuh!

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:53 PM
Carpenter pops out to short. 0-0 mid 3rd

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:53 PM
Mike getting into a groove. Alright boys, time to put a few hits together.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 08:53 PM
Leake matching Wainwright

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:56 PM
51 pitches for Leake through 3

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:56 PM
Mesoraco's due for a dinger. Seems like it's been a long time since he's had one.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 08:58 PM
Mesoraco on second after the sacrifice by Leake.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 08:58 PM
Leake has now allowed only one earned run over his last 30 innings. Who saw that coming?

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 08:58 PM
Lead off single to left for Mes. Leake with a text book sac bunt. 1 down.

Uh-oh....I just got an update about some mass shooting in california. *sigh* not again.
6 killed at a CC library, then gunman kills self. :(

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 08:58 PM
Mesoraco singles and moves to 2nd on Leake's bunt

Magdal
06-07-2013, 08:59 PM
Carpenter pops out to short. 0-0 mid 3rdIf you control Carpenter, you pretty much control the Cards. He has become the best leadoff man in baseball. Check the stats if you doubt. And he is challenging BP as the best all around 2Bman. He can't make the plays that Brandon makes, but make all the plays that should be made. Has BP beat in almost EVERY offensive category.

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:00 PM
Leake has now allowed only one earned run over his last 30 innings. Who saw that coming?I would be surprised if the Cards score even 1 run while he's in.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:02 PM
If you control Carpenter, you pretty much control the Cards. He has become the best leadoff man in baseball. Check the stats if you doubt. And he is challenging BP as the best all around 2Bman. He can't make the plays that Brandon makes, but make all the plays that should be made. Has BP beat in almost EVERY offensive category.

I do doubt. Compare him to Choo. Sorry, he's not the best...even WITH Choo scuffling of late.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:03 PM
Choo really working his at-bat here, they said it's the longest of any batter against Wainwright this year.

Another foul, Wainwright to make his 11th pitch against him.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
quite the battle here with Choo ----

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
Great AB by Choo. Now up to 11 pitches

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
If you control Carpenter, you pretty much control the Cards. He has become the best leadoff man in baseball. Check the stats if you doubt. And he is challenging BP as the best all around 2Bman. He can't make the plays that Brandon makes, but make all the plays that should be made. Has BP beat in almost EVERY offensive category.

He's very good with the bat (so far) but well behind in HR and RBI. If those were closer, it would be an interesting debate due to BP's big edge with the glove.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
Choo walks. 1st and 2nd. Great AB.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
:clap: Choo. :clap:

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
And Choo manages a walk against a pitcher that so rarely issues them. It's first and second.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 09:05 PM
they were not going to give in to Choo -- nice job getting on base

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:05 PM
Hell of a job by Choo

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:05 PM
Great AB by Choo. Now up to 11 pitches

I second this.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:05 PM
And Cozart grounds into a double play. Inning over.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:05 PM
5-4-3 DP by Cozart. 0-0 after 3.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 09:05 PM
Cozie gives the two outs with that roller

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:06 PM
Ugh.

R_Webb18
06-07-2013, 09:06 PM
must be a dream to know cozart up next

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:07 PM
How many rallies have ended at the #2 spot in the order?

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:08 PM
must be a dream to know cozart up next

Probably why Choo didn't get much to hit.

reds700
06-07-2013, 09:08 PM
Needed that pitch count to keep rising. Bad time for a double play.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 09:08 PM
Zack was hot for a couple weeks, but seems to be cooling off again.

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:08 PM
First ice cream reference of the night for the Cowboy, probably not the last.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:09 PM
How many rallies have ended at the #2 spot in the order?

Please don't start with that stuff. It's been pretty civil tonite.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:09 PM
Beltran on-- error by Phillips?

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:09 PM
Beltran singles up the middle on a ball Phillips can't get to.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:10 PM
First ice cream reference of the night for the Cowboy, probably not the last.

I'm not a Cowboy fan!!!

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:10 PM
Nice play by Cozart on a 6-4 FC.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:10 PM
Please don't start with that stuff. It's been pretty civil tonite.

Positive thoughts, positive thoughts, positive thoughts. :D

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:11 PM
Beltran on-- error by Phillips?

he would have beat it out anyway.

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:11 PM
real nice play by Cozart

(now just bat him 8th already damnit)

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:11 PM
I do doubt. Compare him to Choo. Sorry, he's not the best...even WITH Choo scuffling of late.oops! I forgot about Choo. He is the best, certainly in OBP, but Carp IS coming on strong. I think his slugging % is the best, Yes? And BA?

alloverjr
06-07-2013, 09:11 PM
Dusty not the only manager to do such things, but what about bunching your better hitters in a row? Phillips back to 2nd as was the plan in ST and everyone else moves up starting with Bruce. I don't get Cozart or any hitter of his stature getting AB's in the 2 hole.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:11 PM
I'm not a Cowboy fan!!!

Only game this weekend you will have him. Thom is doing the Fox game with Tom Verducci tomorrow night

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:12 PM
he would have beat it out anyway.
Yeah, you're right. Definitely a single.

Vottomatic
06-07-2013, 09:13 PM
Reds hitters have had some good pitches to hit and they're either taking them or missing them.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:13 PM
Only game this weekend you will have him. Thom is doing the Fox game with Tom Verducci tomorrow night

Seems like he has been in the booth less this year....so far.

nate
06-07-2013, 09:15 PM
Chat is open!

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:15 PM
And now the Cardinals batter doing something similar to what Choo did last inning.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:15 PM
Leake using a lot of pitches...almost 70 already

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:19 PM
Molina could do damage here

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:19 PM
Heh heh. It's the ball you're supposed to send flying, not the bat.

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:20 PM
Helluva pitch, Leake.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:20 PM
KK

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:20 PM
Molina could do damage hereOr not...a wicked curve!

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:21 PM
The lets up and grooves one to Freese. /sigh

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:21 PM
And a base hit now for Friese, Holliday scores, it's 1-0.

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:21 PM
of course

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:21 PM
I had a weird feeling after getting the uber-tough Molina out that Leake would do that.

reds700
06-07-2013, 09:22 PM
Cardinals be clutch.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:22 PM
great pitch to Molina, and a bad pitch to Freese.....1-0 Cards

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:22 PM
The lets up and grooves one to Freese. /sigh

Grooved? Really? It wasn't even a strike...about 6 inches outside.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 09:23 PM
I was just going to say "Don't let up after that strikeout, Mike", and that's exactly what he did. He grooved one for Freese on the first pitch. Meanwhile, the Cards show why hits are better than walks and always will be.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 09:23 PM
Grooved? Really? It wasn't even a strike...about 6 inches outside.
Definitely looked "grooved" to me.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:24 PM
Another 2 out hit. 2-0 Cards.

Red Raindog
06-07-2013, 09:24 PM
pitch count seems to be a factor now --- ugh

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:24 PM
I can't think of a series since John Jay came up that he hasn't hurt the Reds.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:24 PM
Definitely looked "grooved" to me.

Clearly high n outside!

Beltway
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Booooooo!

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Grooved? Really? It wasn't even a strike...about 6 inches outside.

"Hung" was a better choice. But, no, that was not 6 inches outside. Caught a lot of plate, up in the zone.

MikeS21
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Meanwhile, the Cards show why hits are better than walks and always will be.

3 ... 2 ... 1 ... DUCK for cover!

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Another hit. 3-0 Cards.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Definitely looked "grooved" to me.

It looked grooved because of the result. Not because of the pitch. You want to see a grooved pitch...the single by Jay was it.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Another two-out hit. It's now 3-0.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Man this sucks!!!

leeech86
06-07-2013, 09:26 PM
Now its time to get really drunk!

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:26 PM
god

New York Red
06-07-2013, 09:27 PM
3 ... 2 ... 1 ... DUCK for cover!
I'm prepared. :D

reds700
06-07-2013, 09:27 PM
I think we have to admit at this point the cards are the best team in baseball. Fortunately the reds are the 2nd best.

757690
06-07-2013, 09:27 PM
Reds #5 starter against Cards #1 starter. Winning this one would be gravy.

alloverjr
06-07-2013, 09:27 PM
This Cards team can really hit. Kinda neat to see the team approach they have.

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:27 PM
Wainwright grounds out, but it's 3-0 Cards in the middle of the fourth. Well, we didn't want the Reds to go up 4-0, so let's see how they do with the other side at 3-0.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:28 PM
Inning finally over on a groud out to short. 3-0 Cards mid 4th

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 09:28 PM
&*^$@#%#%^!

Yup, continue to roll over and play dead for these guys.

New York Red
06-07-2013, 09:28 PM
It looked grooved because of the result. Not because of the pitch. You want to see a grooved pitch...the single by Jay was it.
Not interested in one of your multi-page debates, Charles. :beerme:

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:28 PM
We'll be in the bullpen in the 6th, if not before. Not good.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:28 PM
god

You called?

hebroncougar
06-07-2013, 09:28 PM
I think we have to admit at this point the cards are the best team in baseball. Fortunately the reds are the 2nd best.

Yep you're right. After 3 and a half innings.

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:30 PM
I can't think of a series since John Jay came up that he hasn't hurt the Reds.He has been a non factor for weeks now at the plate.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:30 PM
Votto grounds out to short

Tom Servo
06-07-2013, 09:30 PM
Kinda neat to see the team approach they have.As much as the announcers try to sell it, the Cardinals have not come up with this brilliant 'approach' to baseball (hit for contact with RISP) that has inexplicably eluded every single other team for the past 150+ years.


It won't last, and it's silly here particularly because Leake is a pitch to contact guy.

reds700
06-07-2013, 09:31 PM
Yep you're right. After 3 and a half innings.

It's called basing an opinion on watching the teams play all year. What I have seem so far just confirms it. Leake was pitching as well as anybody in baseball until tonight.

Beltway
06-07-2013, 09:31 PM
It's called basing an opinion on watching the teams play all year. What I have seem so far just confirms it. Leake was pitching as well as anybody in baseball until tonight.
I think that Craig AB tired him a little.

RedsBrick
06-07-2013, 09:32 PM
I can't think of a series since John Jay came up that he hasn't hurt the Reds.

He seems to come up golden against the Reds.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:32 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:32 PM
I think that Craig AB tired him a little.

Exactly.

11larkin11
06-07-2013, 09:33 PM
If you have a crappy feeling about this game like I did/do (even before the 3 run 4th), Reds 1st round comp pick Michael Lorenzen is on ESPN2 now for CSF. 1-2 with a single starting in CF for the Titans.

reds700
06-07-2013, 09:33 PM
I think that Craig AB tired him a little.

Maybe but it sure didn't hurt him against Molina. What makes them dangerous is they have guys at the bottom of the order that can hurt you.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:34 PM
It's called basing an opinion on watching the teams play all year. What I have seem so far just confirms it. Leake was pitching as well as anybody in baseball until tonight.

I can agree with this also. I hate to say it, but right now the Cards are playing better baseball...man did I just say that...uhhhhh!

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:35 PM
If you have a crappy feeling about this game like I did/do (even before the 3 run 4th), Reds 1st round comp pick Michael Lorenzen is on ESPN2 now for CSF. 1-2 with a single starting in CF for the Titans.

This is the guy who was drafted as a pitcher, right?

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:35 PM
Bruce strikes out looking. 3-0 Cards after 4

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 09:35 PM
Votto. First pitch out.
Phillips. 3 pitch out, 2 swinging.

Yay. Whoopie. More Cardinal gloating in store. Joy.:(

RedsBrick
06-07-2013, 09:35 PM
I can agree with this also. I hate to say it, but right now the Cards are playing better baseball...man did I just say that...uhhhhh!

Hey, you gotta speak truth....and that's truth.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:36 PM
The way we are swinging, we'll be lucky to score at all tonight.

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:36 PM
Bruce strikes out looking. 3-0 Cards after 4A generous call I thought..looked way low.

dubc47834
06-07-2013, 09:37 PM
Hey, you gotta speak truth....and that's truth.

Unfortunately right now it's true. I do honestly think come the end of the year we will be better tho. I just don't think the Cards can keep this pace up!

leeech86
06-07-2013, 09:37 PM
A generous call I thought..looked way low.

I agree

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:38 PM
The hitting recently worries me...that and Cozy batting second all year

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:39 PM
Carpenter walks. Leake over 90 pitches

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 09:39 PM
He has been a non factor for weeks now at the plate.

It's like clockwork. He's STL's Bill Hall.

Redsfansince72
06-07-2013, 09:39 PM
I get so sick of watching this team not take smart AB's when they are down... Swinging at the 1st pitch when your down 3-0?? I wish this team had more focus at what they are supposed to do playing winning teams.. I hate the cards i wish the Reds had their swagger and wanted the World Series as much as they do every year..i had to vent

RedsBrick
06-07-2013, 09:40 PM
Unfortunately right now it's true. I do honestly think come the end of the year we will be better tho. I just don't think the Cards can keep this pace up!

If this Reds team doesn't get better, the season will end with a whimper.

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:40 PM
Hey, you gotta speak truth....and that's truth.

Your right but hitting 338 with RISP can't be sustainable

Hitting the ball back up the middle is probable if the pitcher consistently puts it there too.

Kc61
06-07-2013, 09:40 PM
If Choo and Votto don't hit the Reds are going no place.

And I said hit. Choo's walk last inning with a man on second was an "ok" result but he needs to hit.

You can't rely on Bruce, he's a feast or famine and you never know which.
The righties are going to have trouble with tough righthanders, the Reds RHH aren't special.

Choo and Votto have to pick it up or the Reds will soon be 6 games out.

Redsfansince72
06-07-2013, 09:41 PM
Unfortunately right now it's true. I do honestly think come the end of the year we will be better tho. I just don't think the Cards can keep this pace up!
how can you say that when they get better when the post season bell rings?? they know how to win.. the Reds havent won a post season series since 1995!!

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:41 PM
Beltran flies out to left

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:41 PM
It's like clockwork. He's STL's Bill Hall.

In these instances, I think you have to question the overall scouting report on Jay

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:42 PM
6-4-3 DP on a hard hit grounder to short. 3-0 Cards mid 5th

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:42 PM
Heck of a play by Cozy. 6-4-3 DP.

Not worried at all. Reds will win this game.

malcontent
06-07-2013, 09:43 PM
Reminds me of a Greg Maddux game. No intensity. Offense raised the white flag before the first pitch.

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:44 PM
If Choo and Votto don't hit the Reds are going no place.

And I said hit. Choo's walk last inning with a man on second was an "ok" result but he needs to hit.

You can't rely on Bruce, he's a feast or famine and you never know which.
The righties are going to have trouble with tough righthanders, the Reds RHH aren't special.

Choo and Votto have to pick it up or the Reds will soon be 6 games out.

If someone with some plate discipline batted second, we would have had something. He swung at the first two pitches after a 12 pitch AB

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:44 PM
Brandon may have come back too soon. He really looks out of sync tonight. At the plate AND in the field.

11larkin11
06-07-2013, 09:45 PM
This is the guy who was drafted as a pitcher, right?

Yessiree.

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:45 PM
Brandon may have come back too soon. He really looks out of sync tonight. At the plate AND in the field.

I agree. Another Dusty rule... give the player one more day off then he needs

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:46 PM
Frazier reaches on an error by Freese

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:47 PM
Frazier on first due to a throwing error.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:47 PM
I agree. Another Dusty rule... give the player one more day off then he needs

I think we DISagree. I think Brandon came back TOO soon. Dusty let him back in because of the presumed importance of this series. I like the Dusty rule of one more extra day to make sure...seems to me that he didn't follow his own rule with Phillips this time.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:48 PM
Paul flies out to center

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:49 PM
Hannahan on deck.

Kc61
06-07-2013, 09:51 PM
If someone with some plate discipline batted second, we would have had something. He swung at the first two pitches after a 12 pitch AB

I really don't plan to discuss Cozart hitting second any more. It's ruining RedsZone. It's everyone's answer to everything.

Choo is supposedly one of the two best hitters against righties. This is a tough righty. Choo, Votto and Bruce have to lead the way against this guy. I am not impressed by Choo's long at bat walk.

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:51 PM
I think we DISagree. I think Brandon came back TOO soon. Dusty let him back in because of the presumed importance of this series. I like the Dusty rule of one more extra day to make sure...seems to me that he didn't follow his own rule with Phillips this time.

No way to know whose right. Phillips needed at least an AB in a real game to test the forearm protector ... if these games are so important

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:53 PM
Mesoraco dribbles one in front of the plate, Frasier to second.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:53 PM
Mesoraco grounds out in front of the plate. Frazier to 2nd.

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:53 PM
I really don't plan to discuss Cozart hitting second any more. It's ruining RedsZone. It's everyone's answer to everything.

Choo is supposedly one of the two best hitters against righties. This is a tough righty. Choo, Votto and Bruce have to lead the way against this guy. I am not impressed by Choo's long at bat walk.

Glad your not my boss if that doesn't impress you.

Wainwright had walked 5 batter unintentionally until then

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:54 PM
No way to know whose right. Phillips needed at least an AB in a real game to test the forearm protector ... if these games are so important

I agree that it's speculation. But I don't think these games are any more important than the next series. I do think that Phillips' health for the season is more important than him playing tonight.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:55 PM
Hanahhan lines out to 1st. 3-0 Cards after 5.

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 09:56 PM
Ondrusek....:alcohol:

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:57 PM
Ondrusek in to pitch

malcontent
06-07-2013, 09:57 PM
Brandon may have come back too soon. He really looks out of sync tonight. At the plate AND in the field.
Yep. He should have had Beltran's grounder.

Redsfansince72
06-07-2013, 09:57 PM
sometimes i wish they would get into a fight and maybe wake this team up..

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 09:57 PM
I agree that it's speculation. But I don't think these games are any more important than the next series. I do think that Phillips' health for the season is more important than him playing tonight.

Totally agree with you on the importance of the series. (Barring a cardinal sweep and 6 games out)

However if dusty was saving Brandon for the start of this series.. he should have got at least an AB and an inning in the field...

Magdal
06-07-2013, 09:58 PM
how can you say that when they get better when the post season bell rings?? they know how to win.. the Reds havent won a post season series since 1995!!But there's nobody on this team that was on it in '95. You seem to forget that the Reds are the 2nd best team in all of baseball, and how good where the Cards in the post season last year? 3-1 lead over SF and then what?

Too much season left for the Reds to get sad, or the Cards happy.

Great pennant race with the loser dam near guaranteed a wild card!

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 09:58 PM
Yep. He should have had Beltran's grounder.

Maybe. He has also looked a bit hesitant and awkward on some DP attempts.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 09:58 PM
Reds with 2 hits and 6 K's through 5 innings. Offense not close to what the Cardinals is.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 09:59 PM
Craig flies out to right

ProfessorTofty
06-07-2013, 09:59 PM
Molina blasts a double to the center, at the wall.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 10:00 PM
Molina doubles to the wall in center

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 10:00 PM
Reds with 2 hits and 6 K's through 5 innings. Offense not close to what the Cardinals is.

Night and day the way these two teams approach ABs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-07-2013, 10:00 PM
Reds with 2 hits and 6 K's through 5 innings. Offense not close to what the Cardinals is.

Remember who the pitchers were. That has some bearing on the results. I love Leake, but he's not an ace.

RedsBrick
06-07-2013, 10:01 PM
I agree that it's speculation. But I don't think these games are any more important than the next series. I do think that Phillips' health for the season is more important than him playing tonight.

I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Every game we play against the Cards affects the standings by one full game. If the Reds get swept they're a full 6 games back. Also, at some point, you have to feel like you can beat the best...right now that's STL, and right now the Reds haven't shown the ability to do so.

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 10:02 PM
Remember who the pitchers were. That has some bearing on the results. I love Leake, but he's not an ace.

These are the kind of pitchers we'll face in the playoffs. We better start doing something.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 10:03 PM
Freese walks

forfreelin04
06-07-2013, 10:03 PM
Reds with 2 hits and 6 K's through 5 innings. Offense not close to what the Cardinals is.

So far it seems this team goes as Votto goes.... I really believe Ludwick was a huge injury to sustain.... The LF triumphrate has performed admirably but having someone with scary power in the middle of your lineup is tough; especially when Dusty does not set the lineup accordingly

Plus Ludwick brought some actual veteran leadership

50YrRedsFan
06-07-2013, 10:04 PM
Ondrusek about to help end this game early.

Reds Fanatic
06-07-2013, 10:05 PM
Jay doubles to left. 4-0 Cards.

foxfire123
06-07-2013, 10:05 PM
St Louis about to blow this wide open.

BluegrassRedleg
06-07-2013, 10:05 PM
This guy vs. the Reds has gone beyond the point of ridiculousness.

L.O. still gainfully employed by the Cincinnati Reds, remarkably.