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Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 10:25 AM
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NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 10:34 AM
Hopefully the rain holds off long enough.

And, Robinson leading off!

texasdave
06-16-2013, 10:44 AM
And Johnny Cueto back on the bump!!!

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 11:20 AM
Forecast does not look good for this afternoon:


This Afternoon Showers and possibly a thunderstorm before 2pm, then showers and thunderstorms, mainly after 2pm. High near 83. Southwest wind 10 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

CySeymour
06-16-2013, 11:42 AM
Why is Hannahan getting so much playing time lately?

757690
06-16-2013, 11:47 AM
Hopefully the rain holds off long enough

I almost would prefer a rainout and Ceuto going tomorrow against the Pirates. It would also give the other starters a extra days rest.

Gallen5862
06-16-2013, 12:42 PM
This game is the free game of the day on mlb.com.

Trajinous
06-16-2013, 12:45 PM
This game is the free game of the day on mlb.com.

WHAT AM I PAYING MLB.COM FOR?!?! Ha, it's great so more people can witness Cueto's brilliance.

PuffyPig
06-16-2013, 12:48 PM
I almost would prefer a rainout and Ceuto going tomorrow against the Pirates. It would also give the other starters a extra days rest.

That just means likely a doubleheader later on, which really screws up your pitching rotation.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:11 PM
Aoki grounds out to short

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 01:11 PM
Here we go, let's see if they can break this weird Sunday curse.

757690
06-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Would have loved to hear Nuxy deal with Hannahan and Hanigan batting back to back ;)

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Segura lines out to right

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:13 PM
Gomez homers to left. 1-0 Brewers

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:15 PM
LuCroy lines a double to right

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 01:17 PM
Cueto missing his spots so far. Hope he dials it in.

RedTeamGo!
06-16-2013, 01:17 PM
Velocity is down. He is getting hit really hard.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:18 PM
Schafer flies out to right. 1-0 Brewers mid 1st

TSJ55
06-16-2013, 01:18 PM
It's my fault. I acquired JC in my fantasy league and he immediately got hurt and quit dominating. On the upside though, when I traded away Bruce his production exploded.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 01:20 PM
It's my fault. I acquired JC in my fantasy league and he immediately got hurt and quit dominating. On the upside though, when I traded away Bruce his production exploded.

As much as someone with a 2.35 ERA can "quit dominating" ;)

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:21 PM
Robinson flies out to left

TSJ55
06-16-2013, 01:23 PM
I know D. Rob isn't some stud right now but I really like the way he moves out there. EXTREMELY athletic. Hoping he can manage to have the game slow down enough for him to be a player.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:23 PM
Cozart with an infield hit off Peralta's foot

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 01:25 PM
Miami jumps out to an early 2-0 lead on St. Louis...though I'm not expecting that to last.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:26 PM
Votto lines a single to left center. 1st and 2nd.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 01:26 PM
Miami jumps out to an early 2-0 lead on St. Louis...though I'm not expecting that to last.

Me neither, but there's something satisfying about the Fish giving the Cards so much stress.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 01:26 PM
There's one of the players thought of as a potential player of the month for the month of May: Miguel Cairo.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:29 PM
Philips grounds into a 6-4 FC. Would have been a DP but Segura bobbled it. 1st and 3rd. 2 outs.

TSJ55
06-16-2013, 01:29 PM
Lucked out. Maybe Cozy w/ a heads up play.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 01:30 PM
Jeez, Segura is a horror show at SS.

RedTeamGo!
06-16-2013, 01:30 PM
Is Joey Votto the worst slider in the majors? Would not have mattered there and doesn't really overall but he just looks so awkward when he slides.

RedTeamGo!
06-16-2013, 01:33 PM
Good AB by Bruce here. The Reds will score at least 5 runs off this guy today.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:33 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging. 1-0 Brewers after 1.

Blitz Dorsey
06-16-2013, 01:36 PM
Cueto is fooling no one today. Even the outs are rockets. I wonder if he was rushed back and we should have stuck with Cingrani today.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:36 PM
Francisco lines out to right

Blitz Dorsey
06-16-2013, 01:39 PM
Not much velocity on the fastball. He's throwing 3-2 breaking pitches. Hung one to Weeks but he flew out to left.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:39 PM
Weeks flies out to left

Blitz Dorsey
06-16-2013, 01:40 PM
Wow. Betancourt flies out to the wall in RF. I thought that one might be gone.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:40 PM
Betancourt flies out to the track in right. 1-0 Brewers mid 2nd.

moewan
06-16-2013, 01:40 PM
To all the dads out there HAPPY FATHERS DAY :beerme:

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:45 PM
Paul walks

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 01:46 PM
The bottom of our line up surely isn't going to scare anyone.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:48 PM
Hannahan on with a Weeks error.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 01:49 PM
I love the Brewers' defense.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 01:49 PM
There's one of the reasons we traded Francisco.

thatcoolguy_22
06-16-2013, 01:50 PM
How hard is Cueto throwing?

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:51 PM
Hanigan grounds into a 5-4 FC. 1st and 3rd.

LexRedsFan
06-16-2013, 01:52 PM
The bottom of our line up surely isn't going to scare anyone.

Especially a Sunday special.

moewan
06-16-2013, 01:52 PM
Nice take out slide for Hanahan

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:53 PM
Perfect squeeze bunt by Cueto. 1-1.

thatcoolguy_22
06-16-2013, 01:53 PM
Calling a Cueto RBI here.

moewan
06-16-2013, 01:53 PM
Suicide squeeze works tied game

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 01:53 PM
Squeeze!

thatcoolguy_22
06-16-2013, 01:53 PM
HA! I can't watch the game, just gameday. I still get credit

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 01:54 PM
I loves me the squeeze.

TSJ55
06-16-2013, 01:54 PM
Love the squeeze

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:54 PM
Robinson grounds out to 2nd. 1-1 after 2.

Red Raindog
06-16-2013, 01:54 PM
outrageously great bunt

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 01:54 PM
Cards get 1 in the 3rd, 2-1 Marlins, bot 3

TSJ55
06-16-2013, 01:54 PM
I loves me the squeeze.

You owe me a coke or something now, right?

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 01:57 PM
Peralta grounds out to short

Falcon7
06-16-2013, 01:57 PM
Is Joey Votto the worst slider in the majors? Would not have mattered there and doesn't really overall but he just looks so awkward when he slides.

Agree, and he worked at it a lot in spring training.

Trajinous
06-16-2013, 01:59 PM
How hard is Cueto throwing?

He's throwing his usual range, 94 mph fastball, 88 mph curve. He looks normal but the Brewers seem to getting some wood on the ball even though it's 1-1

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 02:00 PM
Aoki flies out to center 2 outs

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:01 PM
Does Aoki always do that running swing thing?

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 02:02 PM
Wow. Not good Hannahan ends up running over Cueto on an infield hit

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:02 PM
Jeez Hanahan watch where you are going

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:03 PM
Nice tackle by defense lineman Hannahan.

Blitz Dorsey
06-16-2013, 02:03 PM
Wheew. Thank goodness Cueto didn't get hurt there.

Even more good news: Johnny is dealin' now. He's found his groove. My contention that he was perhaps rushed back was completely off base. (Eating crow.)

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 02:03 PM
Gomez grounds into a 5-4 FC. 1-1 mid 3rd.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:04 PM
Wheew. Thank goodness Cueto didn't get hurt there.

Even more good news: Johnny is dealin' now. He's found his groove. My contention that he was perhaps rushed back was completely off base. (Eating crow.)

To be fair, he was also a little shaky his first day back last time, too.

BCubb2003
06-16-2013, 02:04 PM
Scary. But Hannahan actually might have prevented a wild throw there.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 02:06 PM
Cozart lines a double to left

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:07 PM
Nice hit by Cozart!

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:07 PM
Cozart 2-2 today, lets go Joey get that steak

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2013, 02:08 PM
Votto grounds out to 1st on a ball Francisco bobbles. Runner to 3rd.

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:09 PM
Votto move cozart over. The Brewers are brutal defensively

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:09 PM
This Milwaukee defense is something else.

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:11 PM
Gift from the Brewers there 2-1 good guys

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:11 PM
That'll do!

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 02:12 PM
Bruuuuuce!!!!! Long homerun there, now 3-1.

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:12 PM
Bruuuuce is on fire :thumbup:

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:13 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:13 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuce

Stray
06-16-2013, 02:13 PM
Wow Bruce crushed that

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:14 PM
Come on Paul keep the pressure on

Big Klu
06-16-2013, 02:17 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
13. Brandon Phillips - 152
16. Lee May - 147
17. Jay Bruce - 146
18. Joey Votto - 144
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:18 PM
Marlins now 4-1 over Cards, bot 4

Going to top 5 now....4-1 Marlins

Raisor
06-16-2013, 02:18 PM
Bruce
May 932
June 985

Dude's been "on fire" for most of the season

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:19 PM
Bruce
May 932
June 985

Dude's been "on fire" for most of the season
But when will he start hitting?

moewan
06-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Cueto is settling in now

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Johnny rolling.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Cueto is great-o

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:25 PM
They showed Junior hitting his Father's Day HR in 04 on the Miami feed of the Marlins/Cardinals game, I guess just because.

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 02:27 PM
Nice double from Hannahan there to get things rolling in this inning.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:28 PM
Nice easy double by Hannahan.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:28 PM
Can't stop Jack Hannahan.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:28 PM
oh jeez, I thought Hannahan was out.

he would have been, but Segura missed the tag.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:30 PM
Wasted out by Hanigan, Hannahan stays at 2nd.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:32 PM
Welp, looks like the leadoff double will go for naught.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:32 PM
The Reds baserunning is questionable at best:thumbdown:

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 02:33 PM
Well, a double now to keep us in the inning with a shot.

TSJ55
06-16-2013, 02:33 PM
Good swing there D. Rob

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:33 PM
D-Rob double! Didn't see that coming.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:34 PM
When was the last time Cueto was on third base?

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:35 PM
argh, no runs

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:35 PM
2 doubles and we can't score. :thumbdown::thumbdown:

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 02:40 PM
Fish up 6-1 on the Cards.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:40 PM
Marlins now 6-1 over Cardinals, bot 5

VR
06-16-2013, 02:42 PM
Marlins now 6-1 over Cardinals, bot 5

Regression to the mean coming quickly for Cards starters.

Raisor
06-16-2013, 02:43 PM
2 doubles and we can't score. :thumbdown::thumbdown:

Reds are out scoring the Brewers by three times. Relax. Enjoy the moment

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 02:44 PM
Cueto at 66 pitches through 5, a pretty good number to be at.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:46 PM
Kelch butchered the Toyota contestants' name there.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 02:47 PM
Peralta has around a 6 era...let's put this game away.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 03:05 PM
A lengthy one, but another scoreless inning for Cueto.

RedsfaninMT
06-16-2013, 03:05 PM
Dead in here today.

Nice job by Cueto...gotta believe he's done. Time for the bullpen to shut them down.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:10 PM
Marlins still 6-1 over Cards, now bot 7

texasdave
06-16-2013, 03:11 PM
Nice game by Cueto. Bullpen mojo needed. Is Johnny an ace yet? :p

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 03:11 PM
Jack Hannahan = On Base Machine

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Hanigan with a double to the wall there, and the Reds have second and third with only one out. Be great to score here after those missed opportunities earlier.

And a pitching change for the Cards.

VR
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Hanigan's bat coming to life. Very exciting.

VR
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Dont' be a putz here Lutz.

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Hannigan stings a double, lutz in to hit for cueto

Raisor
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Jack Hannahan = On Base Machine

Wait. He is? All this time? Might explain why OBM is so grumpy

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Hanigan with a nice double. So close to going out of the park

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 03:14 PM
Is the consensus that Lutz will go back down once Heisey comes back?

texasdave
06-16-2013, 03:15 PM
Hannahan and Hanigan are no Beaumonts.

OnBaseMachine
06-16-2013, 03:15 PM
Jack Hannahan = On Base Machine

I'm younger than Jack Hannahan.

PuffyPig
06-16-2013, 03:16 PM
I would have sent up Frazier and dared the Brewers to leave Peralta in.

I think only Gonzalez was warming up.

Frazier would have been a better match up.

And Dusty made the right move, based on results.

Raisor
06-16-2013, 03:16 PM
Hannahan and Hanigan are no Beaumonts.

Hannahanigan

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:17 PM
Lutz makes it 5-1, and ends up on second following a wild throw!

texasdave
06-16-2013, 03:17 PM
Hannahanigan

Nice. Or Haniganahan.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 03:17 PM
Lutz delivers!

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:18 PM
Lutz comes through with a 2 run single, 5-1 Reds

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:18 PM
Lutz was no putz, 2 RBI 5-1 good guys

texasdave
06-16-2013, 03:18 PM
They pitched to Lutz? Oh well, nice.

Raisor
06-16-2013, 03:19 PM
Lutz was no putz, 2 RBI 5-1 good guys

Yutz

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:20 PM
Raiser, you never fail to make me laugh

RedsfaninMT
06-16-2013, 03:20 PM
What the ??? That was a strike to Robinson?

VR
06-16-2013, 03:20 PM
Lutz was no putz, 2 RBI 5-1 good guys

I like it very mutzch!

Raisor
06-16-2013, 03:21 PM
Raiser, you never fail to make me laugh

It's because I'm awesome

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:21 PM
Marlins now 7-1 over Cards, top 8

texasdave
06-16-2013, 03:22 PM
I like it very mutzch!

That hit was pretty clutzch.

texasdave
06-16-2013, 03:24 PM
Anybody in here that would not have walked Lutz. If he comes around to score it is probably 6-1. So you aren't really losing anything by putting him on. Don't you have to put him on to set up the double play or force at any base?

Trajinous
06-16-2013, 03:26 PM
LUTZ!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz7cpzYYM81qcj7k0o1_500.gif

BCubb2003
06-16-2013, 03:26 PM
That hit was pretty clutzch.

It took gutz.

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Anybody in here that would not have walked Lutz. If he comes around to score it is probably 6-1. So you aren't really losing anything by putting him on. Don't you have to put him on to set up the double play or force at any base?

I would think because of Robinson's speed it would be difficult to turn two

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Brewers trying to get something going now. Runners at the corners, one out.

RedsfaninMT
06-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Anybody in here that would not have walked Lutz. If he comes around to score it is probably 6-1. So you aren't really losing anything by putting him on. Don't you have to put him on to set up the double play or force at any base?

Since that was his first RBI against a lefty, I think the Brewers figured that was a favorable match up.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Simon getting hit hard.

757690
06-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Simon getting hit hard. Not comfortable at all with this lead and this pen.

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:32 PM
Strikeout to end the inning!

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:32 PM
Simon wiggles off the hook there

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 03:33 PM
Simon made it interesting, but gets away unscathed.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:34 PM
Cards out in the 8th, still 7-1 Marlins

reds44
06-16-2013, 03:34 PM
Not sure why people say they would rather re-sign Bailey than Cueto.

I understand the injury thing, but when healthy Cueto is as good of a pitcher as there is.

Roy Tucker
06-16-2013, 03:35 PM
Nothong better than God Bless America on Dad's Day at GABP. Nice trumpet.

BCubb2003
06-16-2013, 03:35 PM
Simon made it interesting.

I cringe when I hear that about a reliever.

RedsfaninMT
06-16-2013, 03:36 PM
Nothong better than God Bless America on Dad's Day at GABP. Nice trumpet.

you're right, that was pretty nice.

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:37 PM
Votto getting us started now in the 7th with a single up the middle.

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:37 PM
Votto slaps the Hand

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:39 PM
Phillips with a productive out there to advance Votto to scoring position.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:40 PM
Not sure why people say they would rather re-sign Bailey than Cueto.

I understand the injury thing, but when healthy Cueto is as good of a pitcher as there is.

I don't think Bailey will stay here when he becomes a free agent...I would use him in a trade for a right handed power bat/lf and a LH reliever.

BCubb2003
06-16-2013, 03:41 PM
I don't think Bailey will stay here when he becomes a free agent...I would use him in a trade for a right handed power bat/lf and a LH reliever.

Bailey gets frustrated with pitching in GABP.

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:49 PM
1-2-3 for Simon. Be great to get another run or two, and then come back to wrap things up in the ninth.

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:49 PM
Great job Simon

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:53 PM
Do we see Chapman in the ninth

HokieRed
06-16-2013, 03:54 PM
Bailey gets frustrated with pitching in GABP.

Interestingly this year Bailey's splits, measured at least by OPS against, are much better at home: .578 vs. .711. Last year it was the other way around by a large margin: at GABP, .874, on the road, .559, which is like facing Paul Janish all night.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:54 PM
Do we see Chapman in the ninth

probably not with a 4 run lead

RedTeamGo!
06-16-2013, 03:54 PM
Good AB by Bruce here. The Reds will score at least 5 runs off this guy today.

Called it!

RedsfaninMT
06-16-2013, 03:54 PM
Cards with sacks loaded in 9th, down by 5.

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 03:57 PM
Holliday strikes out looking for the Cardinals, and that's it. The Marlins have won 7-2.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 03:57 PM
St. Louis loses.

50YrRedsFan
06-16-2013, 03:58 PM
Cards with sacks loaded in 9th, down by 5.

Final; Marlins 7-Cards 2

moewan
06-16-2013, 03:58 PM
Holliday strikes out looking for the Cardinals, and that's it. The Marlins have won 7-2.

:thumbup: :beerme:

moewan
06-16-2013, 04:00 PM
Simon going for the save, with Chapman warming up for a safety valve

PuffyPig
06-16-2013, 04:01 PM
The 3 inning save has almost become extinct, other than in complete blow outs.

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 04:01 PM
Another strikeout, and the Brewers are down to their last out.

moewan
06-16-2013, 04:01 PM
4 Ks in a row

ProfessorTofty
06-16-2013, 04:04 PM
Whew! Strike out swinging, and this one belongs to the Reds!

Nice work by Cueto and Simon.

Tom Servo
06-16-2013, 04:04 PM
We're good again! :beerme:

RedLegsToday
06-16-2013, 04:05 PM
Simon goes all Chapman on the Brewers. Wow!

VR
06-16-2013, 04:05 PM
Well, with all the bullpen concerns.....this was certainly a stud performance by Simon to keep the rest of the pen rested, and finish very solid, especially the last two innings.

Bravo.

RedsManRick
06-16-2013, 04:05 PM
What a great effort from Simon. I'd love to see more relievers given the chance to do this.

lollipopcurve
06-16-2013, 04:08 PM
I'd love to see more relievers given the chance to do this.

Agree 100%. Love the 3 inning save.

Tony Cloninger
06-16-2013, 04:12 PM
The 3 inning save has almost become extinct, other than in complete blow outs.

I once saw and barely recall... Sparky put in Pedro Borbon in a 14-6 blowout in 1972 and have him go 3 innings for the save...when it was still 14-4 ..against the Phillies. This a day after Pedro went 1 1/3. He was the closer and i think that meant everything got closed by him. I just have that In my head when I think of how closers or relievers in general were used in such a wacky way up until the late 80's.

RedLegsToday
06-16-2013, 04:13 PM
wait... did we just win a game on a Sunday?!

Mutaman
06-16-2013, 04:15 PM
What a great effort from Simon. I'd love to see more relievers given the chance to do this.

You're making the assumption other relievers can do this.

texasdave
06-16-2013, 04:19 PM
You're making the assumption other relievers can do this.

Shades of Clay Carroll. The Hawk could bring the game home.

NebraskaRed
06-16-2013, 04:21 PM
You're making the assumption other relievers can do this.

There's one right now named Cingrani who could do it.

Tony Cloninger
06-16-2013, 04:31 PM
There's one right now named Cingrani who could do it.

You stole my written words out of my hands. :D

Mutaman
06-16-2013, 04:39 PM
There's one right now named Cingrani who could do it.

That's fair enough. I thought Baker's discussion about where you draw the line with Cingrani was reasonable. If you pitch him in relief now you may sacrifice the future.

I'm not a "long run " kind of guy and this team is built to win now so I keep Cingrani in the bull pen. Just be careful and don't pull a Scott williamson on him.

Tony Cloninger
06-16-2013, 05:08 PM
That's fair enough. I thought Baker's discussion about where you draw the line with Cingrani was reasonable. If you pitch him in relief now you may sacrifice the future.

I'm not a "long run " kind of guy and this team is built to win now so I keep Cingrani in the bull pen. Just be careful and don't pull a Scott williamson on him.

How would pitching him half the year out of the pen do that?

Baker likes to make points when he does not like something....then contradicts the point with another player over the same situation. I realize he is the Anti Earl Weaver but Lasorda also pitched Orel and Pedro and Alejandro Pena...out of the bullpen, then had them start when they were ready

Mutaman
06-16-2013, 06:33 PM
How would pitching him half the year out of the pen do that?

Baker likes to make points when he does not like something....then contradicts the point with another player over the same situation. I realize he is the Anti Earl Weaver but Lasorda also pitched Orel and Pedro and Alejandro Pena...out of the bullpen, then had them start when they were ready

I didn't say Baker doesn't contradict himself, most folks do occassionaly. Nor are there not exceptions to the rule. But letting Cingrani mature in triple A is probably better for his long term future than pitching in relief this year for the Reds. On the other hand, that might be outweighed by the team's short term needs.

Tony Cloninger
06-16-2013, 07:04 PM
I didn't say Baker doesn't contradict himself, most folks do occassionaly. Nor are there not exceptions to the rule. But letting Cingrani mature in triple A is probably better for his long term future than pitching in relief this year for the Reds. On the other hand, that might be outweighed by the team's short term needs.

If they can get another LH to replace Parra, I am all for it. Even when Marshall comes back...another LH is needed.

_Sir_Charles_
06-17-2013, 07:10 PM
wait... did we just win a game on a Sunday?!

You guys are welcome. Clearly we won because I didn't watch the game.