6/20/13 - Redlegs vs. Peglegs

[Tom Servo]

Choo
Paul
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Frazier
Cozart
Hanigan
Bailey

[cumberlandreds]

I like Paul batting 2nd. The SS reign in the 2nd spot may be over.

[NebraskaRed]

I like Paul batting 2nd. The SS reign in the 2nd spot may be over.

Don't jinx it!

[NebraskaRed]

Plus, Hanigan is playing a day game after a night game. I don't think that happened much last year.

[cumberlandreds]

Pirate Lineup:

1. Starling Marte (R) LF
2. Jordy Mercer (R) SS
3. Andrew McCutchen (R) CF
4. Garrett Jones (L) RF
5. Pedro Alvarez (L) 3B
6. Gaby Sanchez (R) 1B
7. Neil Walker (S) 2B
8. Michael McKenry (R) C
9. Brandon Cumpton (R) P

[oneupper]

Plus, Hanigan is playing a day game after a night game. I don't think that happened much last year.

That's because Bailey is pitching. Homer doesn't like pitching to Mes.

[powersackers]

Maybe he should reconsider. He has arguably the worst SP numbers on the team.

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[Kcbuckeye22]

I'm liking the lineup.

I prefer Rocco, but after the last few stolen bases I'm ready for some Hanny.

[Raisor]

That's because Bailey is pitching. Homer doesn't like pitching to Mes.

Rocco

[OnBaseMachine]

Replace Hanigan with Mesoraco and this becomes my favorite lineup of the season.

[Kc61]

Replace Hanigan with Mesoraco and this becomes my favorite lineup of the season.

Yeah, I have a slightly different suggestion. Petition the league to have Hanigan catch and Mes hit.

I've been waiting for Paul to hit second, so I hope it works.

[thatcoolguy_22]

Yeah, I have a slightly different suggestion. Petition the league to have Hanigan catch and Mes hit.

I've been waiting for Paul to hit second, so I hope it works.

Assuming the Reds had a young Babe Ruth (and its 2021, the NL's first year with a DH), could a DH be applied to the catcher so Ruth could pitch and hit?

[Chip R]

Assuming the Reds had a young Babe Ruth, could a DH be applied to the catcher so Ruth could pitch and hit?

No.

[malcontent]

I've been waiting for Paul to hit second, so I hope it works.
Who would have thought it would only take one year and 50,000 posts urging it?

[powersackers]

Who would have thought it would only take one year and 50,000 posts urging it?

Then Heisey comes back and everything changes...

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[Kiko]

Paul is batting second? Did somebody kidnap Dusty?

[malcontent]

Then Heisey comes back and everything changes...

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God, you're right.

:runawaycry::runawaycry::runawaycry::runawaycry:

[thatcoolguy_22]

No.

Raisor,

Next time at dinner with Selig, inform him of my displeasure in this matter.

Thanks
tcg_22

[cumberlandreds]

George Grande doing the game on TV.

[Raisor]

Raisor,

Next time at dinner with Selig, inform him of my displeasure in this matter.

Thanks
tcg_22

I'll try yo mention it between the main course and pudding

[Raisor]

George Grande doing the game on TV.

I'd rather have a George Vente

[Tom Servo]

George Grande doing the game on TV.
Hi, hello, and welcome.

[thatcoolguy_22]

I predict Bailey goes 12 innings with 26 Ks and Marte goes 5-5 with no runs or rbis.

I'm terrible at this sort of thing

[cumberlandreds]

Marte a leadoff double.

[cumberlandreds]

Mercer K's

[Tom Servo]

Marte a leadoff double.
At least it wasn't a triple.

[cumberlandreds]

Marte steals third.

[Raisor]

At least it wasn't a triple.

Turns out it was

[OnBaseMachine]

Awful call. McCutcheon clearly swung. I'm tired of watching incompetent umpires.

[cumberlandreds]

HBP on McCutch on a 3-2 pitch. It was a change up too.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Uh, what game am I watching? McCutchen clearly swung. That should have been a K. A-freakin-mazing.

That was one of those that was so obvious the home plate ump shouldn't have even checked to first.

[cumberlandreds]

Awful call. McCutcheon clearly swung. I'm tired of watching incompetent umpires.

I thought it was a strike regardless of the swing.

[thatcoolguy_22]

10-9 on the hbp score

[OnBaseMachine]

A better throw from Hanigan would have nailed Marte at third.

[moewan]

Need a friendly ground ball here

[Tom Servo]

Laboring through the first, not looking like Homer is going to throw one of his patented complete game shutouts like he normally does against Pittsburgh.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Big K there. Let's go!

[OnBaseMachine]

Big strikeout there of Jones. Two down.

[cumberlandreds]

Jones K's. Two away.

[Kc61]

I think Paul is hitting second to jump start the offense, which hasn't done too much against the Pirates this series.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Laboring through the first, not looking like Homer is going to throw one of his patented complete game shutouts like he normally does against Pittsburgh.

"Laboring"? Guys are swinging and missing at pitches ... that are then called balls. He should be out of the inning by now via strikeout of the side.

[Raisor]

A better throw from Hanigan would have nailed Marte at third.

Lies!!!!

[OnBaseMachine]

1-2 count on Alvarez. Bury something in the dirt here.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Homer struck out 4 that inning! (Not officially.)

[OnBaseMachine]

Or just do that. Bailey K's the side!

[Kc61]

Notice how Hanigan catches everything the pitcher throws on any count.

Mes needs to improve in that area.

[NebraskaRed]

Lead-off double results in nada. Good work, Homer.

[Raisor]

Notice how Hanigan catches everything the pitcher throws on any count.

Mes needs to improve in that area.

Rocco

[50YrRedsFan]

And I thought the Reds struggle to get a hit with men on base. What has happened to the hitting?

[OnBaseMachine]

Choo reaches on an error to begin the bottom of the first.

[NebraskaRed]

That throw sure was special.

[OnBaseMachine]

That 2-0 pitch to Paul was six inches outside, called a strike. Should have two on, none out. Instead Choo is on 2nd with one out.

[OnBaseMachine]

Cumpton just threw one directly behind Votto. Looked intentional to me.

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto singles to LF to give the Reds a 1-0 lead!

[NebraskaRed]

Cumpton tries and fails to hit Votto.

[50YrRedsFan]

Joey with an RBI single.

[Tom Servo]

Guess he should have hit him.

[thatcoolguy_22]

Votto RBI in the 1st? Not clutch

[OnBaseMachine]

How stupid. Votto caught stealing by a mile. As much as this offense has struggled lately, it's not smart to give away outs, especially with a less than stellar pitcher on the mound.

And of course Phillips singles.

[Tom Servo]

Dusty's fascination with trying to steal bases with average/below average speed guys drives me nuts.

[OnBaseMachine]

I hate when the Reds run themselves out of innings. Cumpton allowed three base runners and went 3-2 on two other batters but the caught stealing really bailed him out.

1-0 Reds after one inning.

[NebraskaRed]

I hate when the Reds run themselves out of innings. Cumpton allowed three base runners and went 3-2 on two other batters but the caught stealing really bailed him out.

1-0 Reds after one inning.

To be fair, Brandon's single wouldn't have brought Votto home anyway. The inning would have ended with 2 men left on instead of one.

Edit: I'm working while watching the game. That's my excuse for not taking into consideration that there would have been another batter in the inning.

[malcontent]

Do we know the Votto CS was on Baker?

Maybe Votto's head isn't in the game.

Regardless, given the whole knee thing, I'd have Votto on permanent red light.

[OnBaseMachine]

4 K's for Bailey now as Sanchez K's looking to begin the second inning.

[RedTeamGo!]

To be fair, Brandon's single wouldn't have brought Votto home anyway. The inning would have ended with 2 men left on instead of one.

Edit: I'm working while watching the game. That's my excuse for not taking into consideration that there would have been another batter in the inning.

That is not necessarily true. Runner on base with 1 out is different than no runners on base with 2 outs. changes the pitcher's approach.

[NebraskaRed]

Do we know the Votto CS was on Baker?

Maybe Votto's head isn't in the game.

Regardless, given the whole knee thing, I'd have Votto on permanent red light.

I don't know, his base-stealing attempts do give us the chance to see the most awkward slide in baseball.

[texasdave]

Several posters have stated that the Reds have looked flat lately. Maybe Dusty has noticed the same thing and is trying to be more aggressive on the base paths to get the team going.

[OnBaseMachine]

Walker pops out to Cozart. Two outs.

[cumberlandreds]

Do we know the Votto CS was on Baker?

Maybe Votto's head isn't in the game.

Regardless, given the whole knee thing, I'd have Votto on permanent red light.

IMO Votto went on his own as a little comeback to the brushback pitch. That goes on all the time. When someone gets thrown at they try to steal 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

Bob C. in the booth, btw.

[OnBaseMachine]

Error on Votto. His and Cozart's defense lately has been awful.

[NebraskaRed]

Error on Votto. His and Cozart's defense lately has been awful.

"Awful" is a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think?

And that wasn't ruled an error

[texasdave]

Pizza seems imminent after two.

[OnBaseMachine]

Cumpton K's, five K's in 2 IP for Bailey. Would have been nice to have him leading off the third though.

[OnBaseMachine]

"Awful" is a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think?

And that wasn't ruled an error

No, not at all. Both are normally very good defenders, but both have been really bad lately, especially Cozart.

[Marc D]

Do we know the Votto CS was on Baker?

Maybe Votto's head isn't in the game.

Regardless, given the whole knee thing, I'd have Votto on permanent red light.

As a team for the season the Reds have the 4th highest amount of CS and the 2nd lowest amount of SB (NL).

How is that not on Baker?

[NebraskaRed]

Frazier with the Sopranos music.

[texasdave]

That is a pretty solid Auction package. Rumor has it that Raisor is going to place one of his 150 Nobels up for auction.

[OnBaseMachine]

Reds go down 1-2-3 in the second inning.

[Raisor]

That is a pretty solid Auction package. Rumor has it that Raisor is going to place one of his 150 Nobels up for auction.

That rumor is incorrect

[OnBaseMachine]

Marte grounds out to Cozart to begin the third inning.

[50YrRedsFan]

Marte grounds out to Cozart to begin the third inning.

Keeping Marte off the bases really stifles the Pirates offense.

[NebraskaRed]

Can McCutcheon walk back to first base any slower?

[OnBaseMachine]

Tie game. Bailey struggling.

[NebraskaRed]

3 straight singles and it's 1-1.

[50YrRedsFan]

Bailey gives up 3 straight singles and the Pirates tie it at 1 all.

[RedsFanatic]

With the amount the bullpen was used last night, not exactly the best game for Homer to have thrown 68 (and counting) pitches through 2 and a 2/3.

[50YrRedsFan]

Bailey at almost 70 pitches already....I hope the bullpen is up for it again.

[Tom Servo]

70 pitches after 3.

[50YrRedsFan]

Bailey gets out of it with his 70th pitch. 1-1 , bot 3

[thatcoolguy_22]

70 pitches after 3.

I think my prediction of 12 innings is falling by the wayside. Who can go multiple innings today? Partch?

[50YrRedsFan]

Pirates with 5 hits off Bailey in 3 innings.

[thatcoolguy_22]

Pirates with 5 hits off Bailey in 3 innings.

Pirates with 0 hits on 28 Sept off of Bailey.

[IABucFan]

If any of you have MLB.tv, and get a chance afterwards, check out the Pirates feed in the bottom of the third inning. They're interviewing a Reds fan who was Roberto Clemente's commanding officer in the military. neat interview if you want to check it out.

[Puffy]

So, I come to Redszone and am about to click on gamethread to see whats happening in game and I notice the "last person" to have posted in thread is 40yrRedsFan and I knew the Reds must have given up the lead cause Mr. Sunshine there only posts when bad things happen.

Such is life on Redszone I guess - - not everyone can be Raisor (thank goodness for that)

[thatcoolguy_22]

Choo with a single.

[Stray]

The pirates already have someone up in their pen lol?

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[NebraskaRed]

Why do the Pirates have someone warming up in the bullpen?

[50YrRedsFan]

So, I come to Redszone and am about to click on gamethread to see whats happening in game and I notice the "last person" to have posted in thread is 40yrRedsFan and I knew the Reds must have given up the lead cause Mr. Sunshine there only posts when bad things happen.

Such is life on Redszone I guess - - not everyone can be Raisor (thank goodness for that)

I just say it like it is. I am a die hard Reds fan. I want to win as bad as anyone.

[Gizmo]

Can we just quit with the SB attempts?

[kbrake]

Enough with the running already.

[OnBaseMachine]

Wow. The Reds give away another base runner. Pure ignorance.

[Tom Servo]

Stop running out of innings!

[Stray]

Maybe we should go back to never trying to steal bases. We're not very good at it.

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[Kc61]

Wow. The Reds give away another base runner. Pure ignorance.

Why is it pure ignorance?

[NebraskaRed]

Stop trying to steal

[cumberlandreds]

It's time to raise the white flag on running this series. Pirates have their number on that one.

[50YrRedsFan]

So, I come to Redszone and am about to click on gamethread to see whats happening in game and I notice the "last person" to have posted in thread is 40yrRedsFan and I knew the Reds must have given up the lead cause Mr. Sunshine there only posts when bad things happen.

Such is life on Redszone I guess - - not everyone can be Raisor (thank goodness for that)

I can't understand why anyone would be frustrated and negative by this Reds offense.:confused:

[thatcoolguy_22]

*self handicapping enabled*

[Kc61]

Stop trying to steal

Obviously Dusty thinks he can run on this backup catcher. He's being proven wrong.

But it's only the third inning, it was worth a shot.

[OnBaseMachine]

Why is it pure ignorance?

Because the Reds are 29th out of 30 in caught stealing %.

[RedTeamGo!]

Tie game. Bailey struggling.

Doesn't he have 5 strikeouts? Wow - a bit knee jerky there?

[OnBaseMachine]

Doesn't he have 5 strikeouts? Wow - a bit knee jerky there?

I think it's more than fair to say Bailey struggled last inning. Three straight hits and struggled with his command.

Another error on Votto. Goodness.

[ProfessorTofty]

Two errors, one for the bobble, and one for the throw. Wow.

[NebraskaRed]

Yikes

[RedsfaninMT]

No GG for Joey this year.

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto was charged with two errors on that play. He could easily have three errors in three innings today.

[OnBaseMachine]

Choo makes a sliding catch for the first out. Runner stays at 2nd.

[Kcbuckeye22]

No GG for Joey this year.

Thinking the same thing. This married life for Votto is hurting his game.

[Tom Servo]

From now on sliding catches in the OF are called Choos.

[RedTeamGo!]

Votto was charged with two errors on that play. He could easily have three errors in three innings today.

DFA him!

[ProfessorTofty]

DFA him!
Now they're saying it's just one error.

[texasdave]

From now on sliding catches in the OF are called Choos.

If he dives and comes up with the ball it should be called a Shin-dig. :)

[Hollcat]

Obviously Dusty thinks he can run on this backup catcher. He's being proven wrong.

But it's only the third inning, it was worth a shot.

Coming into today's game McKenry was 2-30 in throwing out baserunners this seaon and 28-156 in his MLB career.

[reds44]

OBM seems a little grumpy today lol

[OnBaseMachine]

DFA him!

Are you trying to troll or something?

[texasdave]

They take away an error from Votto. I guess the bobble.

[Tom Servo]

Coming into today's game McKenry was 2-30 in throwing out baserunners this seaon and 28-156 in his MLB career.
If that was supposed to make me feel better, it didn't work.

[OnBaseMachine]

OBM seems a little grumpy today lol

How so?

Another missed strike 3 call. Marte clearly swung. How do you miss that?

[kbrake]

That was just a brutal call on that swing. Unbelievable.

[kaldaniels]

Thinking the same thing. This married life for Votto is hurting his game.

He's married?

[Tom Servo]

He's married?
Nope.

[NebraskaRed]

He's married?

And possibly a son

http://youtu.be/OGRJKPphY9Q

[RedTeamGo!]

Are you trying to troll or something?

It was a joke, sheesh.

The response to your "homer is struggling" post was an honest question though. Homer seems to be pitching well, he gave up some singles.

[NebraskaRed]

Nice to hear from Ryan Freel's dad.

[RedTeamGo!]

I do not care whatsoever if he does, but would anybody be surprised if Joey swam in the dude pool?

[texasdave]

Votto really got down the line on that ground ball. Geez.

[cumberlandreds]

Pic interviewed Ryan Freels dad. Seems like a nice guy. Hard to believe Freel isn't around any more.

[NebraskaRed]

I do not care whatsoever if he does, but would anybody be surprised if Joey swam in the dude pool?

Wow...

[dubc47834]

I do not care whatsoever if he does, but would anybody be surprised if Joey swam in the dude pool?

Really!!! This is a clown post bro!!!

[Raisor]

OBM seems a little grumpy today lol

Today?

;)

[Magdal]

When a team is failing on the basepaths to the degree that the Reds (and Cards) are, it is absolutely the fault of the coaching staff. When you see guys like Votto taking off he was absolutely sent as a hit and run.

Properly placed that is a good play. But it fails when a) the sign is stolen, and b) when the batter misses the sign c) when the batter is a poor contact hitter. Those three things happen a LOT.

[RedTeamGo!]

I am not saying it in a negative way at all, I have no prejudices against homosexuals at all. I am simply saying I would not be surprised to learn he is gay, just a vibe I get from him, and always have.

[OnBaseMachine]

Bruuuuuce! 2-1 Reds!

[cumberlandreds]

Gonna beeeeeeeeeeeee Gone!!!! Bruce HR!!

[dubc47834]

Beaumont Bomber baby....bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce

[NebraskaRed]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!!!!

[Raisor]

I am not saying it in a negative way at all, I have no prejudices against homosexuals at all. I am simply saying I would not be surprised to learn he is gay, just a vibe I get from him.

Ask his girlfriend

[Tom Servo]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce

[Kcbuckeye22]

Bruce for MVP!!

[texasdave]

Brrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccceeee eeeee!

[cumberlandreds]

I am not saying it in a negative way at all, I have no prejudices against homosexuals at all. I am simply saying I would not be surprised to learn he is gay, just a vibe I get from him.

Try googling his GF. Really nice looking.

[dubc47834]

I am not saying it in a negative way at all, I have no prejudices against homosexuals at all. I am simply saying I would not be surprised to learn he is gay, just a vibe I get from him, and always have.

Who the he'll cares and why would you feel the need to post that non a Reds message board. Maybe on a Cards board...like I said, clown post!

[kaldaniels]

I am not saying it in a negative way at all, I have no prejudices against homosexuals at all. I am simply saying I would not be surprised to learn he is gay, just a vibe I get from him, and always have.

I don't think you are a bad person to ask that, but this isn't the place.

[reds44]

I do not care whatsoever if he does, but would anybody be surprised if Joey swam in the dude pool?
Hahahahaha the dude pool? Really?

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
13. Brandon Phillips - 152
16. Jay Bruce - 149
17. Lee May - 147
18. Joey Votto - 145
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[NebraskaRed]

Frazier should just hit one-handed all the time.

[Raisor]

I don't care if Votto was into sheep as long he Hitting like he do

[RedTeamGo!]

Hahahahaha the dude pool? Really?

haha - i watch too much What What Happens with my wife, the host always says "swims in the lady pool"

[NebraskaRed]

I don't care if Votto was into sheep as long he Hitting like he do

http://youtu.be/OGRJKPphY9Q

Not sheep, but there is a resemblance.

[cumberlandreds]

Cumpton is suddenly losing it.

[dubc47834]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
13. Brandon Phillips - 152
16. Jay Bruce - 149
17. Lee May - 147
18. Joey Votto - 145
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

At this pace Bruce will catch BP by the weekend

[reds44]

The dude pool. Hahahaha. Never gonna get over that.

[NebraskaRed]

That looked like an unintentional intentional walk

[Mutaman]

I have no prejudices against homosexuals at all.


Just for the record, I have predjudices against everybody.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don't think you are a bad person to ask that, but this isn't the place.

I apologize to anyone I offended. I do not care if people are, so I do not think it is an inappropriate question to ask and have been curious if other Reds fans have gotten a similar vibe, so I thought it would be ok to ask the question here, but I understand people still feel uncomfortable with the subject and didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.

[Tom Servo]

Phil C. in the booth now. The facial hair isn't working, Phil.

[Chip R]

Another rally killer for Bruce.

[OnBaseMachine]

Great inning by Homer. He can go one more inning now.

[thatcoolguy_22]

It took me way to long to realize what he meant by datdude pool. If Votto was gay, he would be the Jackie Robinson of the gay community, and would probably put a dent into the jock culture.

[Kc61]

Because the Reds are 29th out of 30 in caught stealing %.

But the catcher has a bad record on stolen bases, the Bucs catcher. So you try.

I think it was a good idea by Dusty in the early innings.

[Hollcat]

Great inning by Homer. He can go one more inning now.

He's due up first this inning and had 85 pitches going into that one. I'd be surprised if they leave him in for another even with our bullpen's needed rest

[Tom Servo]

He's due up first this inning and had 85 pitches going into that one. I'd be surprised if they leave him in for another even with our bullpen's needed rest
You sir clearly don't know Dusty.

[RedTeamGo!]

It took me way to long to realize what he meant by datdude pool. If Votto was gay, he would be the Jackie Robinson of the gay community, and would probably put a dent into the jock culture.

Exactly, if an athlete of Votto's caliber came out it would be excellent.

[NebraskaRed]

It took me way to long to realize what he meant by datdude pool. If Votto was gay, he would be the Jackie Robinson of the gay community, and would probably put a dent into the jock culture.

You trying to say something about Brandon now? ;)

[thatcoolguy_22]

You trying to say something about Brandon now? ;)

I'm not against it. Is he married? I'm questioning everyone on the roster! :laugh:

[thatcoolguy_22]

Anyone here donate 100$ yet?

[reds44]

Paul and Robinson are regressing.

[NebraskaRed]

I think Bruce's success this season is attributable to his Superman hairstyle.

[Mutaman]

Paul clearly can't handle the 2 spot in the order. We need a good hitter there, somebody like----Cozart.

[REDREAD]

I'm not against it. Is he married? I'm questioning everyone on the roster! :laugh:

Hasn't Phillips had many kids out of wedlock in his younger days?
I don't want to guess a number, but it's more than 1.
I'm guessing he likes women :)

[Mutaman]

Paul and Robinson are regressing.

Fortunatly I hear Heisey will be ready to go in another few months.

[thatcoolguy_22]

2-2 on an Alvarez HR.

[dubc47834]

Paul clearly can't handle the 2 spot in the order. We need a good hitter there, somebody like----Cozart.

I'm sure you are better than Cozart, give Dusty a call.:evil:

[NebraskaRed]

When he was up to 70 pitches in the third inning I didn't think Homer would make it thru 6.

[Mutaman]

I'm sure you are better than Cozart, give Dusty a call.:evil:


i I call him all the time. i tell him not to pay any attention to the constant complaining from fans about his batting orders.
:)

[OnBaseMachine]

Lead off single by Votto in the 6th.

[dubc47834]

i I call him all the time. i tell him not to pay any attention to the constant complaining from fans about his batting orders.
:)

Lol...I'm sure he appreciates it.

[dubc47834]

Let's get Homer a W

[texasdave]

Send him. Law of averages are on your side.

[Kc61]

He's due up first this inning and had 85 pitches going into that one. I'd be surprised if they leave him in for another even with our bullpen's needed rest

Bailey at 113 pitches according to the box score I see.


I would put Hoover in. It's a shot in the dark but I think you need to take it.

[Hollcat]

Bailey at 113 pitches according to the box score I see.


I would put Hoover in. It's a shot in the dark but I think you need to take it.

That was before the last inning. Surely Dusty takes him out now

[BluegrassRedleg]

Cap'n Swing At Anything & Everything

[OnBaseMachine]

Reds swung at some really bad pitches that inning.

[Kc61]

Lecure worked two yesterday. Cingrani needs to have rest, pitched yesterday. Would assume they are out.

Simon pitched one yesterday, three Sunday. Save him for extras.

Parra, save him for lefty inning.

That leaves Hoover and Partch.

Go with Hoover, for two innings if needed.

[cumberlandreds]

Simon in.

[texasdave]

Looks like Simon is on. And I have to tip my cap to Jocketty on this pickup. How he made it on waivers all the way to the Reds is a mystery.

[Kc61]

I would have preferred Hoover, more rested than Simon.

[texasdave]

Ruh. Roh.

[texasdave]

Cingrani getting ready.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Fail.

[Kc61]

For those who criticize Dusty, the use of Simon here is a sign of role rigidity. Dusty "promoted" Simon awhile back and obviously now views him as a seventh inning guy.

So now Alfredo has gone from infrequently used to always used.

Now the bases are loaded, the game is in the balance, and Dusty will remove him.

[Stray]

Simon made a mess out there

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[texasdave]

Bases drunk with Pirates. Simon walks the plank. Cingrani on.

[Stray]

For those who criticize Dusty, the use of Simon here is a sign of role rigidity. Dusty "promoted" Simon awhile back and obviously now views him as a seventh inning guy.

So now Alfredo has gone from infrequently used to always used.

Now the bases are loaded, the game is in the balance, and Dusty will remove him.

I think there's a lot more to it than that. Injuries, ineffective pitchers, and certain guys being unavailable factor in.

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[BluegrassRedleg]

Need to roll one over in a big way here.

[RedTeamGo!]

can't blame Simon, he has to be exhausted.

[Kc61]

I think there's a lot more to it than that. Injuries, ineffective pitchers, and certain guys being unavailable factor in.

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I don't disagree.

It's possible that Hoover is in the dog house, that Dusty won't use him in a tie game unless he has no choice. Guy is 0-5.

Otherwise he was a logical choice. Of course, it's only the seventh. Dusty may be counting on Hoover for the 8th.

Just seemed to me, though, that Simon has worked quite a bit lately for a guy who previously got lots of rest.

[Raisor]

Did the game end?

[texasdave]

Jones just hanging on.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Imagine what this kid could be with another pitch (or two).

[texasdave]

Sweet. K.

[RedEye]

Crazy that Tony C. can throw the same pitch 8 times in a row and Jones still can't square it up.

[Stray]

One more to get outta this

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[BluegrassRedleg]

Creeper doing his best to hex here...

[RedEye]

And... Alvarez not fooled.

[Tom Servo]

Wasn't meant to be.

[Stray]

Ouch

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[BluegrassRedleg]

A guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag has destroyed us today.

[texasdave]

Grrrr.

[RedEye]

Question:

Why not bring in Chapman in the 7th and then Cingrani in the 9th?

[Tom Servo]

A guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag has destroyed us today.
That's not really an accurate description of Alvarez.

[Kc61]

Just one of those days when IMO Dusty had no feel for his bullpen. Not a sharp critic of Dusty, but he didn't go with his fresh arms and it likely cost him the ballgame.

[holster10]

that's why you throw more than one pitch. Cingrani still thinks he can get everyone out with one pitch. had he thrown a breaking ball, it would have helped get Alvarez off balance.

[RedEye]

A guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag has destroyed us today.

At a certain point, when you throw the same pitch over and over, major league hitters -- no matter how good they are -- can square it up and put it in play. Chapman's FB might be the only exception (when it is travelling at 103 to 106 MPH).

[klw]

A guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag has destroyed us today.

But I don't understand, how did he know a fastball was coming?

[RadfordVA]

Has he throw anything but fastballs? Eventually you have to call another pitch just so the hitter sees something else. Doesnt have to be for a strike to work.

[Cant Touch This]

Is Cingrani calling his own pitches? Is it Hanigan? The bench? That was tragic.

[OnBaseMachine]

Pedro Alvarez? Really?

[BluegrassRedleg]

That's not really an accurate description of Alvarez.

Been on the Interstate almost all season. If that doesn't qualify, not sure what does. Just because you have pop when you actually make contact doesn't mean you can hit your way out of the paper bag. :)

[klw]

that's why you throw more than one pitch. Cingrani still thinks he can get everyone out with one pitch. had he thrown a breaking ball, it would have helped get Alvarez off balance.

Unless Cingrani is shaking off signals, he is not the one choosing the pitch.

[RedEye]

Just one of those many days when IMO Dusty had no feel for his bullpen. Not a sharp critic of Dusty, but he didn't go with his fresh arms and it likely cost him the ballgame.

Fixed that for ya. ;)

[Hillsdale87]

Cingrani should have thrown him at least one breaking ball just to throw off his timing. At some point a hitter is going to time it... Not really cingrani's fault though. That's certainly not the easiest spot to enter

[thatcoolguy_22]

That's not really an accurate description of Alvarez.

A guy who is more likely to own a moped than ingesting an apple made of styrofoam, had 2 big hits today resulting in 4 RBIs. Pretty accurate.

[Mutaman]

That might be the first time Alverez has gotten a hit off of a lefty in his life.

[TheBigLebowski]

Pathetic. We really needed this one.

[Tom Servo]

Been on the Interstate almost all season. If that doesn't qualify, not sure what does. Just because you have pop when you actually make contact doesn't mean you can hit your way out of the paper bag. :)
He hit 30 bombs last year, and is on pace to hit even more this year.

[RedEye]

Unless Cingrani is shaking off signals, he is not the one choosing the pitch.

Well, I guess both Hanigan and Cingrani are terrified of what might happen when he throws his other stuff with the bases loaded. I guess in some way a three-run double is better than a wild pitch... at least Alvarez beat you rather than you beating yourself. :confused:

[Kc61]

Fixed that for ya. ;)

I like it the way I wrote it.

Not making a general criticism.

But I must say, this was predictable by virtue of Dusty using tired/unrested relievers when he had fresh arms available.

[50YrRedsFan]

Too many games where our offense can't score runs. Except for a few times, our pitchers have been doing their jobs. You are not going to stop the opposition all the time. We have to get more from the offense.

[Tom Servo]

Pathetic. We really needed this one.
1. It's not over.

2. What makes this 'one' anymore important than any other game?

[mbgrayson]

Cingrani threw 17 straight fastballs today.

[RedEye]

I like it the way I wrote it.

Not making a general criticism.

But I must say, this was predictable by virtue of Dusty using tired/unrested relievers when he had fresh arms available.

I know you like it -- that's why I took editorial credit. I think it's more accurate with the added word though.

[RedTeamGo!]

Pathetic. We really needed this one.

give me a break - its 1 game of 162.

[Mutaman]

Pathetic. We really needed this one.

We "really needed" game 5 against the Giants last October. We didn't really need this one. It would have been nice though.

[OnBaseMachine]

Sooner or later the Reds are gonna have to win some series against teams above .500. Unfortunately they can't play the Brewers or Cubs in the playoffs.

[BluegrassRedleg]

He hit 30 bombs last year, and is on pace to hit even more this year.

That's consistent with what I just wrote. He goes to the plate 600+ times. Thirty go over a fence, the rest don't do much of anything.

[RedEye]

Too many games where our offense can't score runs. Except for a few times, our pitchers have been doing their jobs. You are not going to stop the opposition all the time. We have to get more from the offense.

The offense is among the top run producers in the NL. I think what we are experiencing is the typical variation of a long season. It hurts, but even if they lose, the Reds will still be 43-30, second place in the Central.

[Raisor]

Based loaded needed two strikeouts. If only there was someone in the bullpen that could do that

[TheBigLebowski]

We're headed out west on a tough road trip. Pirates are nipping at our heels. If we come back from the trip .500, we'll likely be 3rd in the division. Be as self-righteous as you like, but this is a big game.