Reds vs. Rangers, 06/30/2013

[TheBigLebowski]

First game thread I've started this year. Want to be able to claim credit for a winning streak.

Choo
Cozart
Votto
DatDude
Bruuuuuce
XMan
Toddfather
Mez
DRob
Latos

Let's go Reds!

[TheBigLebowski]

facing...

Kinsler
Andrus
Cruz
Beltre
Moreland
Murphy
Soto
E Beltre
Martin
Darvish

[757690]

I do like the double leadoff hitter approach that's the result of DRob batting 9th.

[TheBigLebowski]

As do I. And I just like having DRob in the lineup....biased....he's a local Gainesville guy. I do think he will ultimately end up being a very useful ML player.

[ProfessorTofty]

Choo with a fly to center, one out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Choo flies out to center.

[Kc61]

As do I. And I just like having DRob in the lineup....biased....he's a local Gainesville guy. I do think he will ultimately end up being a very useful ML player.

If there is such a thing as a good fifth outfielder, DRob is it. Just lacks the power to be a primary guy.

[kbrake]

Probably going to see a bunch of K's today. Just hope we can get a few across on Darvish.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart flies out to center

[ProfessorTofty]

Votto works a walk.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto walks

[Red in Chicago]

at least brandon is making him work

[kaldaniels]

BP hanging in there...this is fun to watch. Pitch count at 21 and climbing.

[kaldaniels]

Ball!

[ProfessorTofty]

Really good at-bat here, regardless of what ultimately happens.

[kaldaniels]

Eh. But sometimes a pesky AB like that can ruin a pitcher's day. Nice AB BP.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips strikes out but that was a great AB>

[Kc61]

I just love RedsZone.

Phillips swung at the first 8 pitches thrown to him.

If he flies out 400 feet on the first pitch, he's a bum, overanxious, impatient.

But since he didn't, it was a great at bat.

Which it was.

[Reds Fanatic]

Andrus flies out to right. 2 outs.

[757690]

Kinsler clueless against Latos' slider. Lol

[Reds Fanatic]

Cruz lines a double to right center

[ProfessorTofty]

Infield fly and the inning is over.

[Reds Fanatic]

Beltre pops out to 1st. 0-0 after 1.

[TheBigLebowski]

Good Mat.

[kaldaniels]

I know MLB guys should be able to hit a fastball, but when Latos brings that 95 MPH over the top it's gotta be tough to hit.

[Ironman92]

I just love RedsZone.

Phillips swung at the first 8 pitches thrown to him.

If he flies out 400 feet on the first pitch, he's a bum, overanxious, impatient.

But since he didn't, it was a great at bat.

Which it was.

The 400 foot fly out means he swung at a pitch he should have.....the first pitch swing and miss or 2 hopper to SS is a pitch he shouldn't have. The 8 pitch at bat means he wants to just get on base and is battling.....like he did about a week ago against a tough reliever in the 9th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce lines a single to center

[ProfessorTofty]

Little smack up the center for Bruce, and the Reds have a runner on.

[Reds Fanatic]

Paul strikes out swinging

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier hit it hard but lines out to right.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice pitch. Moreland strikes out looking. 2 Ks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Murphy strikes out swinging. Great movement on Latos pitches today

[TheBigLebowski]

Good Mat.

[Reds Fanatic]

Soto strikes out swinging. 4 Ks. 0-0 after 2.

[TheBigLebowski]

DRob is about to go big fly.

[Kc61]

Darvish with 39 pitches, Latos 29 through two innings.

Hopefully Mat can go deep today without losing much effectiveness.

Probably quite hot out there in Texas today.

[kbrake]

DRob is about to go big fly.

They move the plate to second base?

[Reds Fanatic]

Robinson grounds out to 1st on a ball he thought fouled off his foot

[TheBigLebowski]

DRob is about to go big fly.

D'oh

[Ironman92]

Lol Robinson....gotta act quicker

[BluegrassRedleg]

Darvish with 39 pitches, Latos 29 through two innings.

Hopefully Mat can go deep today without losing much effectiveness.

Probably quite hot out there in Texas today.

Saw that, too. Typically, the Reds will let a guy wiggle out of a high pitch count early in the game with first-pitch swinging. Hopefully, on a 90-something day like this, they'll make Darvish pay for it.

[Ironman92]

They move the plate to second base?

And the fence in 75 feet

[Reds Fanatic]

Choo walks

[SirFelixCat]

Another really good AB by Choo. Certainly looks like he's breaking out of his slump!

:thumbup:

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart grounds into a 5-4 FC. Looked like an easy DP but Kinsler can't get the ball out of his glove

[Kc61]

Saw that, too. Typically, the Reds will let a guy wiggle out of a high pitch count early in the game with first-pitch swinging. Hopefully, on a 90-something day like this, they'll make Darvish pay for it.

Mat sometimes loses it later on, so it's good Darvish is throwing a lot of pitches too.

Does Cozart realize he hits grounders to third and pop ups to the right side virtually all the time?

Is this a BABIP problem? Bad luck? He hits these grounders very hard. But you would think an adjustment is in order.

[757690]

So is Kinsler that bad of a 2B? That was terrible.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto singles to left center. 1st and 3rd.

[TheBigLebowski]

In business to do business...come on DatDude...

[Kc61]

Cozart should have bunted.

You watch Cozart hit and you think he should have so much more production.

He almost never walks, which is bad, but he does hit the ball hard. But usually these grounders are right to guys.

Whatever, c'mon BP.

[Ironman92]

Go oppo BP

[ProfessorTofty]

DatDude has struck out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 3rd

[TheBigLebowski]

Reds=Gods of RISP.

[Kc61]

Darvish at 59 pitches through three.

I hate to bank on a starter getting tired, but this fellow is pretty good and the Reds aren't hitting much.

[Red Raindog]

Mat sometimes loses it later on, so it's good Darvish is throwing a lot of pitches too.

Does Cozart realize he hits grounders to third and pop ups to the right side virtually all the time?

Is this a BABIP problem? Bad luck? He hits these grounders very hard. But you would think an adjustment is in order.

just saw that Darvish averages 108.8 pitches per start

[Reds Fanatic]

E. Beltre singles to right

[Kc61]

One last thing on Cozart. He pops up a lot, but he has a 49% ground ball rate this season, up from 42% last year.

He hits the ball hard, if he could drive the ball into the air he would have much better numbers. Just get it off the ground.

I'm sure they know, whatever.

[Kc61]

That's what I've been seeing with Mesoraco. Strike three, he couldn't hold it, runner steals second with no throw.

Needs to improve on that.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kinsler pops out to 2nd

[LoganBuck]

That's what I've been seeing with Mesoraco. Strike three, he couldn't hold it, runner steals second with no throw.

Needs to improve on that.

That one I would put on Latos. Beltre was within three strides from second when Mes stood up.

[Reds Fanatic]

6 Ks for Latos through 3. 0-0 after 3.

[LoganBuck]

Mes with a frame? Or did the ump miss that one?

[TheBigLebowski]

Good Mat.

[ProfessorTofty]

Frazier with a whack to left field with two outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cruz grounds out to short

[Reds Fanatic]

Beltre with a bloop hit to center on what appeared to be a pretty easy fly ball

[LoganBuck]

Choo misread that.

[moewan]

What did they say on Johnny Cueto missed it

[gilpdawg]

Choo misread that.

Looked like he never saw it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Robinson with a running catch. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wild pitch moves Beltre to 2nd.

[ProfessorTofty]

Wild pitch puts the runner on second.

[Ironman92]

I won't defend Choo because he did not have his shades down. If he has his shades down.....I have very little problem.....but for all I know that ball has to be caught.

And if you didn't gripe about Stubbs pulling up instead of diving a dozen or so times a season you shouldn't be able to gripe at Choo.

[texasdave]

What did they say on Johnny Cueto missed it

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130630&content_id=52272256&notebook_id=52273470&vkey=notebook_cin&c_id=cin

[Reds Fanatic]

Murphy walks.

[leeech86]

What did they say on Johnny Cueto missed it

They said that he basically re-ingurd him self. That it was like ripping a scab off a little early. He will be out for an undetermined amount of time.

[Reds Fanatic]

Soto strikes out swinging. 7 Ks. 0-0 after 4.

[TheBigLebowski]

Good Mat.

[mth123]

I won't defend Choo because he did not have his shades down. If he has his shades down.....I have very little problem.....but for all I know that ball has to be caught.

And if you didn't gripe about Stubbs pulling up instead of diving a dozen or so times a season you shouldn't be able to gripe at Choo.

The argument against Stubbs was never about diving. That is another myth perpetuated by people who can't read. Stubbs merely needed to take one more step on plenty of occassions to turn a single into an out.

Choo should have caught that ball, but I don't think he saw it. I agree that if he knew where it was, running hard for a couple of steps would have put him under that one. IMO, he slowed down because he didn't know where it was.

[Reds Fanatic]

They said that he basically re-ingurd him self. That it was like ripping a scab off a little early. He will be out for an undetermined amount of time.

One significant thing they said is this will continue to be an issue the rest of the year. The only way for this to completely heal is to shut him down completely which they are trying not to do. So he probably won't fully heal until the offseason.

[kbrake]

If Robinson is leading off an inning he might as well just try dropping down a bunt.

[Reds Fanatic]

Robinson strikes out looking. 5 Ks for Darvish

[Wonderful Monds]

One significant thing they said is this will continue to be an issue the rest of the year. The only way for this to completely heal is to shut him down completely which they are trying not to do. So he probably won't fully heal until the offseason.

I don't like that. I don't like that at all.

[Reds Fanatic]

Choo strikes out swinging

[ProfessorTofty]

Long flyout by Cozart to end the inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart flies out to left. 0-0 mid 5th

[Reds Fanatic]

E. Beltre with a bunt single

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin doubles to right center . 2nd and 3rd.

[TheBigLebowski]

Crap. Here we go..

[leeech86]

buckle down mat

[Reds Fanatic]

Kinsler strikes out swinging. 8 Ks for Latos

[ProfessorTofty]

Squeeze bunt, everyone safe. Beltre looks injured.

[Reds Fanatic]

Squeeze play. Collision at the plate. 2 runs score. Beltre is hurt.

Runner goes to 2nd as the throw gets away.

[Wonderful Monds]

Clown baseball

[Red in Chicago]

bad throw by matt...two score...sigh

[BluegrassRedleg]

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Probably created by pressure of knowing you have to hold a team to 1 or 2 runs in order to win.

[kaldaniels]

I thought he squared too early, thought Mat would pitchout.

[TheBigLebowski]

This team is just a big tease.

[gilpdawg]

Shut up Thom.

[Kc61]

Ultimately if you don't score you don't win. Latos is very good but you can't expect perfection in a good opponent's home stadium.

Maybe the Reds will score some runs and come back.

Reds didn't score for 22 consecutive innings, now being shutout again, makes it tough on starting pitchers.

[kbrake]

Probably created by pressure of knowing you have to hold a team to 1 or 2 runs in order to win.

Absolutely agree.

[RedsBrick]

Hmm...why not just get the out at first with that Mat?

[leeech86]

4 more innings to go. The Reds can score 3 runs easily.....I think.

[Tony Cloninger]

It was a pitch outside and hard to handle...but he was still able to bunt it. Good throw gets him though.

I knew it would be tough for most of the hackers on this team to do much with this pitcher. I was just hoping the game from last night would give them some confidence and they could break out.

[ProfessorTofty]

Strikeout, and the inning's over, but the Rangers do the first damage.

[Reds Fanatic]

Beltre strikes out swinging. 9 Ks. 2-0 Rangers

[gilpdawg]

Well to be fair.... it's Yu Freaking Darvish. He's kind of good.

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[TheBigLebowski]

4 more innings to go. The Reds can score 3 runs easily.....I think.

You do realize what team we're watching, correct?

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging

[texasdave]

Latos with 30 Ks in his last 16.2 innings. Very Chapmanian.

[WebScorpion]

Well to be fair.... it's Yu Freaking Darvish. He's kind of good.

He hasn't had a win since May 16th...typically, pitchers come out of their funk by playing the Reds. :(

[Reds Fanatic]

4 pitch walk to Phillips

[gilpdawg]

He hasn't had a win since May 16th...typically, pitchers come out of their funk by playing the Reds. :(

Judging a pitcher based on wins? Fail. ;)

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[leeech86]

You do realize what team we're watching, correct?

Yep. They will either lay an egg, or score 10 runs.;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce singles to right. 1st and 3rd.

[ProfessorTofty]

Base hit! First and third now.

[leeech86]

Bruce!

[TheBigLebowski]

We'll strand them.

[leeech86]

whatever happens now, this should be Yu's last inning:thumbup:

[BluegrassRedleg]

Wonder how many pitches they'll let this guy throw?

[Reds Fanatic]

Ugh. Paul grounds into a DP. 2-0 Rangers mid 6th.

[Wonderful Monds]

Snore.

I'm out.

[leeech86]

DOH!

[Kc61]

Reds are now 11 for 109 with men in scoring position over their last 18 games according to Rangers announcers.

[Tony Cloninger]

We'll strand them.

I've got sunshine on my shoulders.

[Kc61]

Paul has been scuffling, wasn't a bad at bat, fouled off a number of pitches, went deep into the count, hit the ball sharply.

Needed to get it into the air, didn't.

[TheBigLebowski]

We'll strand them.

These guys are so freaking predictable.

Just not a fun team to watch despite all the talent.

[RedsBrick]

This team is just snake-bit right now....no way around it. Guess they just gotta play through it. Hope they can.

[Red Raindog]

4 more innings to go. The Reds can score 3 runs easily.....I think.

cite?

:lol:

[texasdave]

Paul has been scuffling, wasn't a bad at bat, fouled off a number of pitches, went deep into the count, hit the ball sharply.

Needed to get it into the air, didn't.

KC61 with 11,111 posts. :beerme:

[Tony Cloninger]

Ugh. Paul grounds into a DP. 2-0 Rangers mid 6th.

You gotta be kidding me? Good grief. :laugh: :confused: :(

[Reds Fanatic]

Moreland walks

[LoganBuck]

Does anyone actually like Thom B anymore? He has become sandpaper for the soul.

[Reds Fanatic]

Murphy grounds out to 1st. Runner to 2nd.

[Red Raindog]

Does anyone actually like Thom B anymore? He has become sandpaper for the soul.

never did like hearing him -- where does that put me in the equation?

[Reds Fanatic]

Soto pops out to 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

E. Beltre grounds out to 1st. 2-0 Rangers after 6.

[texasdave]

never did like hearing him -- where does that put me in the equation?

Hater, like always. :laugh:

[Kc61]

KC61 with 11,111 posts. :beerme:

Thanks for noticing. It's been my pleasure.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry about the Reds lately.

Dusty seemed really upset on that double play. He usually doesn't wear his displeasure on his sleeve, but even he must be getting frustrated.

[Red in Chicago]

Does anyone actually like Thom B anymore? He has become sandpaper for the soul.

of all the reds announcers (tv and radio), kelch is my least favorite, but that's because he has no personality - even his voice is boring.

[ProfessorTofty]

Frazier lines straight to center. One out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to center.

[BluegrassRedleg]

No, Thom, Davey Crockett was NOT a native Texan. :p

[Kc61]

Cards lead As 5-4. Brewers lead Pirates 1-0.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco pops out to 2nd

[Big Klu]

Uhh, Thom...Davy Crockett was born on a mountaintop in Tennessee.

[757690]

That race of whatever they were, is easily the worst in the majors. Just a random group of guys identified with Texas. So lame, lol.

[Reds Fanatic]

Robinson walks

[ProfessorTofty]

Walk is taken, and a left-hander will be sent out to face Choo.

[Reds Fanatic]

At 117 pitches Darvish is done

[Reds Fanatic]

Robbie Ross in to pitch

[leeech86]

That race of whatever they were, is easily the worst in the majors. Just a random group of guys identified with Texas. So lame, lol.

At least they have a real race. I always wanted the reds to do an actual physical race.

[Ironman92]

The argument against Stubbs was never about diving. That is another myth perpetuated by people who can't read. Stubbs merely needed to take one more step on plenty of occassions to turn a single into an out.

Choo should have caught that ball, but I don't think he saw it. I agree that if he knew where it was, running hard for a couple of steps would have put him under that one. IMO, he slowed down because he didn't know where it was.

What does Drew's refusal to dive a handful of times throughout the season have to do with being able to read? I've have a point but am not sure of your's....so I'll wait as I typically agree very much with you.

[Red Raindog]

No, Thom, Davey Crockett was NOT a native Texan. :p

He said it with authority -- it must be true

:D

[ProfessorTofty]

Choo with a long fly to left, but it's an out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Choo flies out to left. 2-0 Rangers mid 7th

[RedsBrick]

I don't understand why we don't try to get something going here. Why not move the runner? And I mean before it got to full count!

[TheBigLebowski]

Change the freaking record, please...

[Red Raindog]

nice song at the break -- best part of this lousy game!

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin singles to center

[Kc61]

Latos at 98 pitches. Base hit.

I know Dusty wants Mat to have a chance at a win, but he really needs to make a change. Now.

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin steals 2nd.

[Red in Chicago]

mes has some of the ugliest throws to second i've ever seen.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Rangers haven't really done jack against Latos all day, but they're aggressive as hell, so it feels like there's been a lot more pressure on.

[kaldaniels]

mes has some of the ugliest throws to second i've ever seen.

On this throw in isolation he was terribly rushed. Had no shot.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kinsler pops out

[Kc61]

mes has some of the ugliest throws to second i've ever seen.

I don't watch every minute of every game, but when was the last time Mes actually threw out a runner.

Brantley on radio saying that Mes comes out of the crouch straight up and doesn't get any momentum on the throws. That's why they usually go into the dirt.

[Reds Fanatic]

Andrus singles to center. 1st and 3rd.

[TheBigLebowski]

Reds in this situation would GIDP.

Rangers will take advantage.

[mth123]

What does Drew's refusal to dive a handful of times throughout the season have to do with being able to read? I've have a point but am not sure of your's....so I'll wait as I typically agree very much with you.

The ongoing criticism of Stubbs defense by me and a few others was that he pulls up and plays it safe on balls that he can catch. Many, who can't seem to read, were up in arms because they misconstrued that to mean we wanted him to leave his feet and risk the ball rolling to the wall for extra bases and it was never the point. When the ball is still fifteen feet in the air, taking another step or two to make the catch wouldn't hurt. Drew pulled up and played those on the bounce quite a bit IMO.

Most over-rated defensive player I've ever seen. He was good covering gap to gap and that's flashy seeing him chewing up ground, but he gave it all back and then some on plays in front of him and to some extent balls over his head, though lots of guys have trouble with those. His trouble going back caused him to play way too deep, IMO, which magnified his issues on balls in front of him.

I associated your citing Redszone wanting Stubbs to dive with that whole scenario.

[Kc61]

On this throw in isolation he was terribly rushed. Had no shot.

Problem is there's always an excuse. Never the right situation for Mes to actually throw out a runner.

He's supposed to have a good arm, hard to see it watching these games, but I guess people know.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cruz singles to right. 3-0 Rangers

[Red in Chicago]

unreal...just over bp's head...

[TheBigLebowski]

Reds in this situation would GIDP.

Rangers will take advantage.

Oh, it's so easy...

[OldXOhio]

These guys are so freaking predictable.

Just not a fun team to watch despite all the talent.

There's a lot of talent in the pitching staff. There's certainly some in the lineup, but not enough to overcome the lack of talent that exists in other everyday positions.

[Reds Fanatic]

Beltre flies out to left. Runner to 3rd. 1st and 3rd and that is it for Latos after 106 pitches

[Big Klu]

He said it with authority -- it must be true

:D

Not only that, but Jim Bowie was born in Kentucky, moved as a child with his family to Louisiana when he was six, and didn't move to Texas until 1830 at the age of 34. He died at the Alamo just short of his 40th birthday.

[Red in Chicago]

as frustrated as i get with this team, it does sadden me that we are already into the second half of the season. the year is flying by.

[Big Klu]

I don't watch every minute of every game, but when was the last time Mes actually threw out a runner.

Brantley on radio saying that Mes comes out of the crouch straight up and doesn't get any momentum on the throws. That's why they usually go into the dirt.

Thom and Chris said in the broadcast earlier to day that he last threw out a runner attempting to steal in the series at Pittsburgh at the beginning of June.

[Red in Chicago]

Thom and Chris said in the broadcast earlier to day that he last threw out a runner attempting to steal in the series at Pittsburgh at the beginning of June.

who was it, willie stargell:lol:

[Reds Fanatic]

Moreland walks

[Red in Chicago]

robinson makes me nervous out there

[Reds Fanatic]

Murphy flies out to left. 3-0 Rangers after 7

[leeech86]

I've got my rally beer on Reds! Lets get some runs!:beerme:

[Kc61]

as frustrated as i get with this team, it does sadden me that we are already into the second half of the season. the year is flying by.

Actually, I'm sad that somehow I have a hankering to watch these ballgames.

I'm a Baker fan, but I really would like to see somebody new handle these guys. Some of these patterns are starting to drive me crazy. I knew (and posted) that Latos should be out. Latos fades deep in games. It's a simple fact.

But Dusty wants Latos to get the win, so he leaves him in on a hot day and now the game is even more likely out of reach.

As for the front office, it did a good job this off-season, but has been so passive since the injuries started that it's hard to believe.

Whatever, the rant is over, let's see if they can do something now although I doubt it.

[50YrRedsFan]

Beltre flies out to left. Runner to 3rd. 1st and 3rd and that is it for Latos after 106 pitches

Another game where our starter gets no run support. These guys must be starting to wonder if they will ever get any runs.

[Tony Cloninger]

Actually, I'm sad that somehow I have a hankering to watch these ballgames.

I'm a Baker fan, but I really would like to see somebody new handle these guys. Some of these patterns are starting to drive me crazy. I knew (and posted) that Latos should be out. Latos fades deep in games. It's a simple fact.

But Dusty wants Latos to get the win, so he leaves him in on a hot day and now the game is even more likely out of reach.

As for the front office, it did a good job this off-season, but has been so passive since the injuries started that it's hard to believe.

Whatever, the rant is over, let's see if they can do something now although I doubt it.


I think he just wanted to save the bullpen, maybe more than trying to get him a win.

The other part..... I would love someone to ask Walt what he is doing or are they just hoping for the best until Ludwick is back in August?

[Reds Fanatic]

Tanner Scheppers in to pitch

4 pitch walk to Cozart

[Tony Cloninger]

Tanner Scheppers in to pitch

4 pitch walk to Cozart

Worlds are Colliding.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto singles to left. 1st and 2nd

[ProfessorTofty]

Votto with a base hit, and we have two on. Any chance of breaking out of the old, familiar pattern?

[Red in Chicago]

got something cookin' here...come on bp

[RedsBrick]

Oh, for a DatDude long ball right here!

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips singles to right. Bases loaded no outs for Bruce

[ProfessorTofty]

We'll take it. A single for bases loaded.

[BluegrassRedleg]

5-4-3 triple play time. :laugh:

[Big Klu]

who was it, willie stargell:lol:

Starling Marte, on June 2 at Pittsburgh.

[dubc47834]

Bruce WILL hit a grand slam.....maybe

[Red in Chicago]

based loaded for bruce!!

[kaldaniels]

Ooooh I wish Cozart scored there.

[dubc47834]

Slam time...yes I feel it

[RedsBrick]

Really didn't think it was that difficult to see that was going to drop.

[kaldaniels]

Lefty warming in the pen for.....

[BluegrassRedleg]

This team routinely comes out of this situation with 0 or 1. Can't happen today. Make it hurt, Redlegs.

[Reds Fanatic]

2-0 count on Bruce and they are bringing in the lefty Cotts

[kaldaniels]

Dusty is confused. :laugh:

[dubc47834]

I like this move by Washington, I don't think Dusty would do that!

[Ironman92]

The ongoing criticism of Stubbs defense by me and a few others was that he pulls up and plays it safe on balls that he can catch. Many, who can't seem to read, were up in arms because they misconstrued that to mean we wanted him to leave his feet and risk the ball rolling to the wall for extra bases and it was never the point. When the ball is still fifteen feet in the air, taking another step or two to make the catch wouldn't hurt. Drew pulled up and played those on the bounce quite a bit IMO.

Most over-rated defensive player I've ever seen. He was good covering gap to gap and that's flashy seeing him chewing up ground, but he gave it all back and then some on plays in front of him and to some extent balls over his head, though lots of guys have trouble with those. His trouble going back caused him to play way too deep, IMO, which magnified his issues on balls in front of him.

I associated your citing Redszone wanting Stubbs to dive with that whole scenario.

No...again, I've only been reading RZ for a few weeks. I was on the SunDeck last year but don't know much of anyone or how they post other than texasdave and NYReds.

Thanks for explaining and I simply could not agree more.

[RedTeamGo!]

Fantastic move by Washington. There is no way in hell Dusty would have done that.

[RedsBrick]

Ron Washington: aggressive and decisive

[RedTeamGo!]

Hopefully Dusty is paying attention to the far superior manager.

[Ironman92]

Nice...showing that stat!

[dubc47834]

Hopefully Dusty is paying attention to the far superior manager.

I was in agreeance until you made this idiotic comment!

[Red Raindog]

broke the goose egg!

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce sac fly to center. 3-1 Rangers. Votto to 3rd and Phillips to 2nd. 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

[Red in Chicago]

there's one...and the double play is not in order now

[kaldaniels]

Dusty is confused. :laugh:

I like Dusty but this one was too easy to pass up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey hitting for Paul

[RedsBrick]

Sweet! The Rangers just blundered on the throw! Good to see the other guys do it too sometimes.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Heisey swinging for the fences. Just need a freakin' knock, dude.

[Red in Chicago]

i hope he proves me wrong, but i have little faith in chris

[RedTeamGo!]

I wonder if Heisey is aware you don't have to swing as hard as humanly possible every single time

[Kc61]

Just hit the ball, Heisey.

[ProfessorTofty]

Another sacrifice fly, and the runner is also advanced.

[Red in Chicago]

wow, that was close at third.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey sac fly to right. Phillips beats the throw to 3rd. 2 outs. 3-2 Rangers

[BluegrassRedleg]

Should have been a huge inning. Now just hoping and praying to tie it.

Reds Baseball, 2013.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitching change

[Red Raindog]

Wow -- I think a better throw gets BP at third and probably negates the Votto run...

dodged one there

[Reds Fanatic]

Jason Frasor in to pitch

[RedsBrick]

I certainly don't mind the aggressiveness, but that could've been disastrous.

[Kc61]

Should have been a huge inning. Now just hoping and praying to tie it.

Reds Baseball, 2013.

Rangers third run looks big now. Won't go into how it possibly could have been avoided.

[Red in Chicago]

how about a wild pitch or passed ball here

[BluegrassRedleg]

I certainly don't mind the aggressiveness, but that could've been disastrous.

I like it, though. Page out of the Rangers' weekend playbook.

[Red Raindog]

no reason to throw strikes to Todd

[RedTeamGo!]

I wonder if Frazier even attempted to see the ball there, looks like he closed his eyes and swung

[RedsBrick]

how about a wild pitch or passed ball here

That would definitely legitimize BP taking third.

[BluegrassRedleg]

A kickball pitcher could retire Todd Frazier. Just roll it over the plate.

[Ironman92]

Hopefully Dusty is paying attention to the far superior manager.

Ron is basically Dusty with a past drug problem.

[Red in Chicago]

there isn't much that todd won't swing at...

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier golfs a fly ball on a low pitch to center. 3-2 Rangers mid 8th

[RedTeamGo!]

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwNjMyMzQ3M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjcwNDMyOA

The above was supposed to be the movie poster for Clint Eastwood's "Trouble with the curve"


why is it so difficult to post pictures on redszone?

[Stray]

Off of the bat I thought that would fall. Todd has a way of hitting those pretty far.

[Red Raindog]

Ron is basically Dusty with a past drug problem.

Do we really know if there is something coating those toothpicks?

[Ironman92]

4 people ripping on Heisey a bit and no one gave him credit when he was productive.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ron is basically Dusty with a past drug problem.

How do you know he had a problem? Didn't he only fail one drug test? big whoop.

[Kc61]

4 people ripping on Heisey a bit and no one gave him credit when he was productive.

He hit a short sacrifice fly against a lefty pitcher with men on second and third.

It's fine, good at bat, but sorry if I'm not overjoyed.

[Reds Fanatic]

Alfredo Simon in to pitch

[BluegrassRedleg]

Off of the bat I thought that would fall. Todd has a way of hitting those pretty far.

I did, too. Thought it was going to be like the Rangers' third run-producing hit. Thing just carried and carried.