7/5/13 Reds v. (Sub) Mariners

[NebraskaRed]

Reds:

Choo
Cozart
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Frazier
Paul
Mesoraco
Leake


Same line-up from yesterday's non-game.

Seattle:

Brad Miller
Nick Franklin
Raul Ibanez
Kendrys Morales
Kyle Seager
Mike Zunino
Michael Saunders
Dustin Ackley
Aaron Harang

[Kiko]

Hopefully the weather isn't the same as yesterday. Looks like some pop up thunderstorms in the area and potential for a rain delay. I will keep my fingers crossed that doesn't happen.

[Tornon]

Kinda sad I won't be able to watch the game, I want to see if Harang will get any type of ovation

[bigredmechanism]

Kinda sad I won't be able to watch the game, I want to see if Harang will get any type of ovation

He should.

He and Arroyo were the only bright spots we had in the rotation for a while. Aaron was a stud for a while.

[Tom Servo]

He should.

He and Arroyo were the only bright spots we had in the rotation for a while. Aaron was a stud for a while.
Yup, would love to see the Reds fans pay respects to a guy who was an unheralded ace in 2006 and 2007 and who pitched his heart out for Cincinnati for years...and then see the Reds chase him from the game early after he gives up a few trademark meatball HR's. :thumbup:


The Mariners lineup is interesting with Miller, Franklin, and Zunino in there. A real youth movement.

[ProfessorTofty]

Radar looks rather quiet at the moment, just very light, very isolated showers. Hopefully we get this in, and with luck, without even any rain delays.

[Degenerate39]

He should.

He and Arroyo were the only bright spots we had in the rotation for a while. Aaron was a stud for a while.

It's a shame he didn't win the Cy Young with the Reds.

[Gizmo]

Solid pitcher, I wish Aaron all the best, except tonight. Let's tee off!

[Red in Chicago]

is he still suffering from that one relief appearance?

[ProfessorTofty]

Not an auspicious start there; Seattle with a triple to start the inning.

[Red Raindog]

0-2 triple?

yikes :eek:

[Gizmo]

Triple on 0-2 pitch, now a HR. :(

[ProfessorTofty]

Ah shoot. Quickly 2-0, Nick Franklin home run.

[Red Raindog]

double yikes :(

[New York Red]

Wow, down 2-0 after just four pitches.

[redsfandan]

Well that was quick.

[MikeS21]

is he still suffering from that one relief appearance?
Depends on who you talk to.

[DocRed]

Regression to the mean...

[Red in Chicago]

please, not one of those games tonight...

[Red Raindog]

Mr. Partch -- don't go away

[New York Red]

Earliest commercial break in baseball history?

[MikeS21]

Mr. Leake is due for an off night.

[RedTeamGo!]

Regression to the mean...

Please.:thumbdown:

Everybody has bad pitches and bad starts. Hell, it's only two runs - he can still get a quality start.

[scott91575]

Well, the plus is Harang is on the mound for Seattle. He has a 6.75 ERA on the road and the opposing team's OPS is .944. Of course now that I have said that he will pitch out of his mind tonight.

[DocRed]

Please.:thumbdown:

Everybody has bad pitches and bad starts. Hell, it's only two runs - he can still get a quality start.

Of course he can. But that's not even my point. He is not a 2.50 ERA pitcher. I expect him to end the year around 3.25-3.50 at the end of the year which is a fabulous improvement for him.

[edabbs44]

Triple on 0-2 pitch, now a HR. :(

Did he really get a triple? Looked like a 2b and E.

[RedTeamGo!]

It's interesting, if morales had not had that leg injury that cost him 2 seasons and he ended up being a good 1st basemen for the angel, they probably do not sign Pujols and he probably would have stayed in stl.

[ProfessorTofty]

Did he really get a triple? Looked like a 2b and E.
It was scored a triple.

[edabbs44]

Did he really get a triple? Looked like a 2b and E.

Yep. Triple.

[Red Raindog]

Did he really get a triple? Looked like a 2b and E.

I would have scored it that way --

[Tom Servo]

I blame this on the USA hats being worn on July 5th.

[Ironman92]

Bruce misplayed that ball for sure....for a crappy triple....but it ended it being moo as the next batter homered.

Leake not looking good at all early on.

[ProfessorTofty]

Choo smacks one hard to left, but right at the fielder.

[RedTeamGo!]

He's a lefty, but I think ibanez would be a good pickup for the reds, tons of playoff experience and be is crushing the ball this year.

[RedTeamGo!]

Seems like it has been awhile since Votto has homered. He's due.

[RedTeamGo!]

Strike 3

[Ironman92]

This standard definition stuff every other game by FOX Ohio is ridiculous.....every other sporting event I watch all year long is in HD...and the vast majority were last year.

Tickets are higher and HD coverage down about 50%....

[Ironman92]

He's a lefty, but I think ibanez would be a good pickup for the reds, tons of playoff experience and be is crushing the ball this year.

40 years old with 19+ HR already....

HGH Poptarts clearly

[Tom Servo]

well this sucks

[DocRed]

:/

[The Operator]

Man, when Leake is off.... he is OFF.

Yikes.

[Ironman92]

Great.....we are facing the Lou Pinella Mariners

[Stray]

Leaving a lot of pitches up

[DocRed]

Losing to Harang would suck..

[Ironman92]

Man, when Leake is off.... he is OFF.

Yikes.

It's one thing to be off but these 4A guys aren't missing.

[redsfaninbsg]

I've got the game in HD on FS Ohio. Direct TV Channel 661-1. Direct TV costs more but, it's hard to gripe with their quality/performance.

[The Operator]

Great.....we are facing the Lou Pinella MarinersI still remember the awful series with the M's in 2010 when they scored all of 1 run the entire series. Hopefully we're not in for a repeat.

[Red Raindog]

This standard definition stuff every other game by FOX Ohio is ridiculous.....every other sporting event I watch all year long is in HD...and the vast majority were last year.

Tickets are higher and HD coverage down about 50%....

Dish Network has moved the HD channel for the Reds all over the place this year -- I'm watching on channel 412-28

[Red Raindog]

I still remember the awful series with the M's in 2010 when they scored all of 1 run the entire series. Hopefully we're not in for a repeat.

to the stockade with you for bringing that up

[Ironman92]

That swing by Bruce to whiff was so feeble....is he awake tonight?

[The Operator]

Frazier! Harang's no-hit bid is gone. :)

[Red Raindog]

ugly double for Todd

[Ironman92]

Frazier is so lucky

[scott91575]

This standard definition stuff every other game by FOX Ohio is ridiculous.....every other sporting event I watch all year long is in HD...and the vast majority were last year.

Tickets are higher and HD coverage down about 50%....

I don't recall a single game this year not in HD.

[Tom Servo]

Jeez X, what the hell was that.

[Red Raindog]

speaking of weak swings -- X hits the ball all of 2 feet

[NebraskaRed]

wonder if Frazier is as surprised as I am every time those swings make contact

[NebraskaRed]

nobody can accuse Paul of juicing

[Kc61]

Leake was absolutely due to give up some runs. Offense needs to bail him out tonight.

[The Operator]

That swing by Bruce to whiff was so feeble....is he awake tonight?I'm hoping the bats wake up against Harang the 2nd time through. I sure do remember a lot of teams hitting him pretty well those last 2.5 or so years he was a Red.

That said, I still love the big guy. He along with Arroyo were the only bright spots on some baaaaaad pitching staffs.

[Tom Servo]

Weird to think Harang and Leake were teammates and in the rotation together in 2010, seems like two different eras (and ERA's).

[Ironman92]

I think Xavier Paul is juicing.

[malcontent]

Harangatang gonna let the Reds hack themselves to death.

[NebraskaRed]

I think Xavier Paul is juicing.

He might be. I think he actually hit that ball so hard that it went straight out to the Toyota sign, bounced off and came all the way back and landed one foot in front of him.

It was so fast you didn't even notice that

[JaxRed]

Got here late. How was the Harang ovation?

[Red in Chicago]

did that foul tip really hurt that much?

[ProfessorTofty]

Mesoraco takes a walk and the Reds hope to get something going here in the third.

[RedTeamGo!]

There we go mez, he's throwing junk up there. Hopefully the rest of the lineup was paying attention.

[RedTeamGo!]

Down by three giving away an out. Makes sense....not.

[Ironman92]

down by three giving away an out. Makes sense....not.

etddtywrol

[RedTeamGo!]

What?

[Ironman92]

What?

I can't tell you. Sorry

[edabbs44]

I think Xavier Paul is juicing.

Strictly orange.

[RedTeamGo!]

Then why say that?

[Red Raindog]

Mariners make it look easy ---

[Ironman92]

Then why say that?

I didn't say it.

[TheBigLebowski]

Getting housed by the Seattle Mariners in the first game of our 3, with none other than Harang on the mound, is the last thing we need.

[jojo]

Kyle Seager is a good third baseman.

[Kiko]

Not looking good for Leake tonight. A walk, wild pitch, runner advances to third on out, SF scores the runner from 3rd and then a ground out. Basically gave that run to the M's. I think the off day has affected him.

[DocRed]

Please.:thumbdown:

Everybody has bad pitches and bad starts. Hell, it's only two runs - he can still get a quality start.

Well...not anymore.

[RedTeamGo!]

Getting housed by the Seattle Mariners in the first game of our 3, with none other than Harang on the mound, is the last thing we need.

Lots of game left down by only 4.

Other scenarios that are way worse in the long run compared to possibly losing a game to harang include the following: season ending injuries to Votto, Bruce, Phillips, choo, bailey, Latos, chapman, etc.

[TheBigLebowski]

Lots of game left down by only 4.

Other scenarios that are way worse in the long run compared to possibly losing a game to harang include the following: season ending injuries to Votto, Bruce, Phillips, choo, bailey, Latos, chapman, etc.

Seriously, Captain Literal? Why didn't you include a redux of the plague or nuclear holocaust?

[foxfire123]

Gawd they are owning us.... WTH?

[Tom Servo]

ugh

[redsfaninbsg]

Geez......

[Red Raindog]

BP DP

[TheBigLebowski]

Son of a...

[RedTeamGo!]

Seriously, Captain Literal? Why didn't you include a redux of the plague or nuclear holocaust?

Hey, I didn't write your ridiculous post, I just responded to it.

[redsfaninbsg]

Phillips really needs to shoot that ball to RF.

[Gizmo]

when does interleague play end?

[Red Raindog]

dang -- that looked catchable to me ---

[TheBigLebowski]

Hey, I didn't write your ridiculous post, I just responded to it.

Then you're no better than me.

Put me on ignore and I shall reciprocate.

[Red Raindog]

when does interleague play end?

pretty much never

[Red Raindog]

whew - Leake pitched around the triple --- nice job

[TheBigLebowski]

pretty much never

Does feel that way this season.

[Tom Servo]

Leake just not fooling them, but gets out of it. We need to cut into the defecit.

[Red Raindog]

Does feel that way this season.

with 15 teams in each league ----- the only time would be the inter league playoffs

err -- would that be intra?

[DocRed]

This Red's offense making Harang look like Cy Young..

[RedTeamGo!]

Then you're no better than me.

Put me on ignore and I shall reciprocate.

Not really, my post was not ridiculous.

[ProfessorTofty]

No bunting this time. Come on, Leake, help yourself out, get a hit.


Or not. Leake is outta this one. Hannahan on.

[foxfire123]

when does interleague play end?

Not. Soon. Enough.

[Kiko]

Geez, I would rather see Leake hit than Hanahan

[Red Raindog]

not sure this is an improvement in hitters at the plate

[Red Raindog]

Happy to be wrong here

[ProfessorTofty]

Nevertheless, Hannahan with a single, and it's 1st and 2nd.

[Kiko]

Holy smokes, Hannahan! A single!

[Red Raindog]

time for Choo to run into one

[TheBigLebowski]

Storming down here in God's Country aka Gainesville, and the satellite is out...what's the situation?

[ProfessorTofty]

Choo blasts one into the corner in left! It's 4-1, runners now at 2nd and 3rd on the Choo double.

[Red Raindog]

time for Cozart to run into one -- yeah I'm superstitious

[DocRed]

Does Speier ever send anyone from 3rd??? Geezus......give me Berry back for God's sake.

[WildcatFan]

Chris sounds like he has a head cold.

[TheBigLebowski]

Sweet....don't want to open the Pandora's Box on the "ss bats 2nd, dude" debate, but I do wish it was someone other than Cozart here.

Hoping I'm wrong.

[RedTeamGo!]

Does Speier ever send anyone from 3rd??? Geezus......give me Berry back for God's sake.

Don't worry, redszone will be back to blaming berry for runners being thrown out at home in no time!

[ProfessorTofty]

Sweet....don't want to open the Pandora's Box on the "ss bats 2nd, dude" debate, but I do wish it was someone other than Cozart here.

Hoping I'm wrong.
Unfortunately, nope.

[TheBigLebowski]

Just fyi...

Most of you guys know PIT destroyed CHI today.

MIA/STL 1-1 after 1.

And the satellite is back...and Cozart behaved predictably. Dangit.

[DocRed]

2 outs and Cozart up....SEND THE RUNNER FOR GOD"S SAKE SPEIER!!@#@!#@!

[Blitz Dorsey]

Cozart tries to pull everything. Jeezus man. Go with where it's pitched.

[TheBigLebowski]

Unfortunately, nope.

We've got to fix that.

[Tom Servo]

and that's why you don't bat your weakest hitter second

[Blitz Dorsey]

and that's why you don't bat your weakest hitter second

At least Dusty never batted Paul Janish in the two-hole. (Oh wait.)

[TheBigLebowski]

and that's why you don't bat your weakest hitter second

Trad or saber...regardless of your philosophy...it makes no sense.

[alloverjr]

I'm going to be the only one who thinks this, but I move Phillips back to the 2 hole immediately and put Heisey 4th and let it ride for a few weeks. Opinion only.

[TheBigLebowski]

BTW, had we sent the runner, he was meat.

We had a better chance hoping for a Cozart safety.

[Gizmo]

and that's why you don't bat your weakest hitter second

http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/284190_S/Best-Arrested-Development-Quotes.jpg

[DocRed]

BTW, had we sent the runner, he was meat.

We had a better chance hoping for a Cozart safety.

Disagree completely.

Chances of Cozart getting a hit...less than .200

Chances of a bad throw approaching .500

[TheBigLebowski]

Partch has a live FB. Must be location and secondary stuff that holds him back. I haven't seen a lot of him.

[WildcatFan]

Uh oh.

[TheBigLebowski]

Disagree completely.

Chances of Cozart getting a hit...less than .200

Chances of a bad throw approaching .500

Do you have DVR? Rewind it. He would have been MEAT.

Oh crap....why did I have to comment on Partch's lack of command....

[DocRed]

Do you have DVR? Rewind it. He would have been MEAT.

Oh crap....why did I have to comment on Partch's lack of command....

I do and I just did. I'm not sure how you can deduce anything from that as the cutoff man never made a throw. In fact it looked like he bobbled it.

[ProfessorTofty]

Nice double play to get us out of the inning!

[WildcatFan]

Nice recovery.

[TheBigLebowski]

WHEW.

[Mutaman]

I get this feeling that sometime in november I'm going to look back on this game and say "That's when it became clear that this bllclub didn't have it".

Hope I'm wrong but this is not good.

[Tom Servo]

Just the way Partch drew it up

[Big Klu]

I blame this on the USA hats being worn on July 5th.

I like the caps. They are very similar to the Stars & Stripes cap from a few years ago. (I think it was 2010. I bought one on clearance a year later.)

I think it looks good with the white uniform, though it looks better with the players who are showing their socks. I wouldn't mind seeing the Reds use a version of the cap (with a red C, of course) as the alternate home cap, with a gray version as the alternate road cap. Use the all-red cap as the primary cap for both home and away, and eliminate the red cap with the black bill.

[TheBigLebowski]

I do and I just did. I'm not sure how you can deduce anything from that as the cutoff man never made a throw.

I deduce it from where the cutoff man was when he caught the ball and the fact that the runner had barely hit third, and the cutoff man was about 10 yards north of third.

If the cutoff man made a throw, we wouldn't be debating this. He didn't have to make a throw. It's all conjecture.

[TheBigLebowski]

Let's get some runs, Reds. Now is the time.

[TheBigLebowski]

VOTTO!!!

[ProfessorTofty]

Votto goes yard! 4-2.

[Gizmo]

Would have liked that last inning, but it's 1 run!

[DocRed]

I deduce it from where the cutoff man was when he caught the ball and the fact that the runner had barely hit third, and the cutoff man was about 10 yards north of third.

If the cutoff man made a throw, we wouldn't be debating this. He didn't have to make a throw. It's all conjecture.

Watched it again... he did not catch it and he did in fact boot the cutoff throw as he booted it to the foul line. I would lay money he would have scored on that boot easily. If you have it on DVR check it out.

Not trying to be a dick but that is my point...alot can go wrong with a throw to home. Anyways who knows....just my opinion. :P

[WildcatFan]

WOW. Into the cameras!!!!

[Red Raindog]

Votto ball go far

[Tom Servo]

I like the caps. They are very similar to the Stars & Stripes cap from a few years ago. (I think it was 2010. I bought one on clearance a year later.)

I think it looks good with the white uniform, though it looks better with the players who are showing their socks. I wouldn't mind seeing the Reds use a version of the cap (with a red C, of course) as the alternate home cap, with a gray version as the alternate road cap. Use the all-red cap as the primary cap for both home and away, and eliminate the red cap with the black bill.
I'm definitely in favor of eliminating the black bill caps, and adding a white cap. I have this hat in my closet and would love to see the Reds bust it out.

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1776382dt.jpg

I just think it's bad luck to wear these USA caps a day late.

[WildcatFan]

I get this feeling that sometime in november I'm going to look back on this game and say "That's when it became clear that this bllclub didn't have it".

Hope I'm wrong but this is not good.

This would be a weird one to single out.

[Falcon7]

Would have liked that last inning, but it's 1 run!

Has he even hit a 3 run homer this year?

[Kc61]

I get this feeling that sometime in november I'm going to look back on this game and say "That's when it became clear that this bllclub didn't have it".

Hope I'm wrong but this is not good.

Just keep in mind that it's very tough to win four in a row, even against weaker teams. Can't really anticipate that. This is now a six game homestand, five of six would be excellent.

By the way, I don't blame Speier for not sending Hannahan. From my view of it, Jack was pretty slow getting to third on the hit and would have been out by a mile.

As for Cozart, he's grounder to third, pop to the right side. Those are his two things.

[TheBigLebowski]

Watched it again... he did not catch it and he did in fact boot the cutoff throw as he booted it to the foul line. I would lay money he would have scored on that bobble easily. If you have it on DVR check it out.

True. Ball was booted. But it all happened so quickly. Based on the information a 3rd base coach could properly process at the time the decision had to be made, he made the right call in my opinion. He can't assume the ball would be booted. And look at where the runner was when the ball was booted.

[DocRed]

True. Ball was booted. But it all happened so quickly. Based on the information a 3rd base coach could properly process at the time the decision had to be made, he made the right call in my opinion. He can't assume the ball would be booted. And look at where the runner was when the ball was booted.

I can see your point...it's just my uneducated opinion. Agree to disagree :P

[TheBigLebowski]

Can't help but to say I'm a bit disappointed we could only secure 2 runs against Harang over 6 innings.

[Big Klu]

I'm definitely in favor of eliminating the black bill caps, and adding a white cap. I have this hat in my closet and would love to see the Reds bust it out.

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1776382dt.jpg

I just think it's bad luck to wear these USA caps a day late.

I will concede that point.

And I also like that solid white cap with the red bill (no pinstripes). I would also like to see a gray version for road games.

[Tom Servo]

If the bullpen can keep it where it is, I think we can come back and win this.

[WildcatFan]

Where do I sign up to judge the Fox Ohio Girl contest?

[TheBigLebowski]

I can see your point...it's just my uneducated opinion. Agree to disagree :P

Bah. My opinion is no more educated than anyone else's. Fun discussion nonetheless. So many such things here turn contentious the minute someone drops a quarter.

[WildcatFan]

Bah. My opinion is no more educated than anyone else's. Fun discussion nonetheless. So many such things here turn contentious the minute someone drops a quarter.

WHO DROPPED A QUARTER?!

/scrambles

[TheBigLebowski]

If the bullpen can keep it where it is, I think we can come back and win this.

I cautiously agree...but I have a greater concern with the pen keeping things where they are than the Reds O producing 2+ runs.

[Red Raindog]

Where do I sign up to judge the Fox Ohio Girl contest?

I have spare room -- think my wife will go for that?

[WildcatFan]

I have spare room -- think my wife will go for that?

My number-one requirement is that they can recite a line without sounding like they're reading it for the very first time.

[TheBigLebowski]

Harangatang is done.

[Red Raindog]

My number-one requirement is that they can recite a line without sounding like they're reading it for the very first time.

I have "cough" different "cough" standards

[Tom Servo]

C'mon Big Red, strikes.

[WildcatFan]

Curtis Partch and Jack Hannahan should switch names.

[alloverjr]

My number-one requirement is that they can recite a line without sounding like they're reading it for the very first time.

Which would be the last thing I would require...

[Big Klu]

My number-one requirement is that they can recite a line without sounding like they're reading it for the very first time.

You have high standards, my friend.

[Tom Servo]

yesiree!

[WildcatFan]

Can Miller get a triple-triple?

[ProfessorTofty]

Double play and a pop-up, and Partch is doing well so far. Come on, Reds!

[WildcatFan]

Nope.

[DocRed]

Nice start!!!!! God I love Paul..

[Big Klu]

I'm a little late, but congratulations to Joey Votto, who has passed "The Big Bopper" Lee May for 17th place on the Reds' all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Brandon Phillips - 154
14. Joe Morgan - 152
14. Pete Rose - 152
14. Jay Bruce - 152
17. Joey Votto - 148
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[ProfessorTofty]

Nice! Paul slides into second with a double. That ball rolled nicely for us there.

[Tom Servo]

lucky break, I'll take it! X to second to start the inning.

[Kc61]

This reliever walks guys, so Reds should be patient.

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice start!!!!! God I love Paul..

Love the hustle, not the weak grounder.

[DocRed]

[QUOTE=Big Klu;2901900]I'm a little late, but congratulations to Joey Votto, who has passed "The Big Bopper" Lee May for 17th place on the Reds' all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club

14. Jay Bruce - 152
17. Joey Votto - 148

This is going to be an interesting battle for years to come...

[Tom Servo]

terrible strike call on 2-1

[TheBigLebowski]

AWFUL strike call...wow

[foxfire123]

Come'on Mez!

Anyone gonna bite?

[DocRed]

Good God this UMP IS BLIND!!!!!!!!!

[redsfaninbsg]

Horrible AB, granted strike two was pathetic.

[Red Raindog]

terrible strike call on 2-1

man - I can do some ump cussing

[DocRed]

That was the WORST called strike I have seen in a long time. More reason to kick these conceited idiot umps to the curb.

[Kc61]

Paul has struggled the last month. We'll see what happens with him. Some posers thought he would regress, I didn't, but I may have been overly optimistic.

We'll see, hope he picks things up.

Now Heisey, whatever you think of him, is due to be hot, so hope he does something here.

[Kc61]

That was the WORST called strike I have seen in a long time. More reason to kick these conceited idiot umps to the curb.

I wouldn't mind it so much, except that call has affected the ballgame.

Mes would have been up 3-1 in the count, man on second.

Still, I could have lived without Mes swinging at ball four to strike out. That also affected the game.

[Kiko]

What did Heisey do?

[Tom Servo]

What did Heisey do?
grounded out

[Kc61]

What did Heisey do?

Grounded to third.

[scott91575]

Paul has struggled the last month. We'll see what happens with him. Some posers thought he would regress, I didn't, but I may have been overly optimistic.

We'll see, hope he picks things up.

Now Heisey, whatever you think of him, is due to be hot, so hope he does something here.

Hey, don't call me a poser.

[Tom Servo]

Charlie Furbush brings Jon Coutlangus to mind...

[Tom Servo]

:doh::bash:

[TheBigLebowski]

We strand a leadoff runner at 2nd in the 7th down by 2. Just bad baseball.

[Kc61]

Hey, don't call me a poser.

There are worse things.

Reds didn't exactly cash in on that seventh inning opportunity. Oh well. Maybe Latos will pitch a no-hitter tomorrow, they usually win those.

[Tom Servo]

Handy Manny in.

[redsfaninbsg]

What's the situation on Marshall? Aren't we about three weeks out from when he said I'll be ready in three weeks?

[Tom Servo]

What's the situation on Marshall? Aren't we about three weeks out from when he said I'll be ready in three weeks?
from a few minutes ago:

Sean Marshall still working in 'pen
by Chris Towers | CBSSports.com
(9:08 pm ET) Reds reliever Sean Marshall threw a 39-pitch bullpen session Friday, as he continues to recover from a sprained left shoulder. He will likely throw another Sunday as part of his workload leading to a rehab assignment.
"It went great," Marshall told MLB.com. "We'll see. We're just playing it day by day. I know they're planning a light toss tomorrow and a 'pen the next day. I will mix in some breaking balls and see how it goes."

Marshall threw mostly fastballs, and has only worked his curveball and slider in warm-ups, so that will likely be the next step. He still does not have a timetable for his return from the disabled list.

[Ironman92]

At least Dusty never batted Paul Janish in the two-hole. (Oh wait.)

What's hilarious is that Janish was not called up for performance...he was called up to to necessity and they were saying he has a great glove but just not ready at all to hit at the big league level.....and Dusty put him 2nd very very early in his career.

[Kiko]

Parra has been solid lately. As long as he continues to pitch the way he has then I would keep him on the 25 when Marshall comes back. Partch or Logan can be sent down.

[Tom Servo]

yesiree!

[Tom Servo]

Parra has been solid lately. As long as he continues to pitch the way he has then I would keep him on the 25 when Marshall comes back. Partch or Logan can be sent down.
I totally forgot Ondrusek was on the 25 man right now, I felt better not knowing it. :(

[TheBigLebowski]

Let's get some runs

[New York Red]

Charlie Furbush brings Jon Coutlangus to mind...
No "likes" for this? Seriously?

[redsfaninbsg]

[QUOTE=He still does not have a timetable for his return from the disabled list. [/QUOTE]

No bueno.

[Kiko]

Cozy against a lefty is money

[TheBigLebowski]

Zack Cozart makes baby Pandas cry.

[Tom Servo]

Cozy against a lefty is money
Money left on the table.

[DocRed]

Another call missed by this idiot ump...

[redsfaninbsg]

Instant Replay is a must.

[Red Buckeye]

Do you guys think the Reds are going to lose more ground tonight to Pittsburgh by losing?

[Tom Servo]

Down to the last 4 outs.

[TheBigLebowski]

Worst I've seen Phillips look in some time.

[dsmith421]

Cozart's OBP is .270 and dropping like a rock. You can't hide a liability like that anywhere in a lineup, for some reason the Reds put him center stage.

[Kc61]

Hey, don't call me a poser.

Wonder if Phillips will hold on and make the All Star team.

Hasn't exactly hit much the last month.

[Blitz Dorsey]

You know our offense is shaky when Aaron Harang and the Mariners' crappy bullpen can hold us down in GABP.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Worst I've seen Phillips look in some time.

He hit a HR 3 nights ago. Let's not overreact here.

[Kiko]

You know our offense is shaky when Aaron Harang and the Mariners' crappy bullpen can hold us down in GABP.

Harang is 0-4 on the road with a 7+ ERA this year. Figures he would get a win tonight.

[ProfessorTofty]

Oh no. Xavier Paul hurt after chasing a foul ball.

Looks like he'll be okay.

Hmm, they're out to examine.

[The Operator]

X Man hurt himself. :(

[alloverjr]

I'd like to see 3 things after tonight:

1 - Have the offense pick up the pitching when they give up more than 3 runs.

2 - Move Cozart out of the 2 spot and insert Phillips back there

3 - Make it mandatory that the ump behind the plate is forbidden to be back there for any more Reds games

[Red Raindog]

X Man hurt himself. :(

hoping for funny bone here

[Tom Servo]

Seems like X is ok.

[Kc61]

Cozart's OBP is .270 and dropping like a rock. You can't hide a liability like that anywhere in a lineup, for some reason the Reds put him center stage.

I don't disagree. But over the last month Cozart has actually had a HIGHER OPS than the other two main candidates to bat second -- Phillips and Paul.

I'm not disagreeing. I just think the ballclub has a number of guys who haven't hit consistently well this year. Add Frazier, Hanigan, Heisey.

It's too bad because the Reds are in a period now when, finally, after so many years, their pitching is really quite good. Wish the offense wsa more consistent.

[foxfire123]

Another injury delay? what happened?

ETA: NM. $#%^&^%*#!!!

[ProfessorTofty]

Another injury delay? what happened?

Xavier Paul looked like he might have injured his arm after extending to try to catch a foul that went into the stands, but it seems he's okay.

[Red Raindog]

I'd like to see 3 things after tonight:

1 - Have the offense pick up the pitching when they give up more than 3 runs.

Still possible -- odds low though

2 - Move Cozart out of the 2 spot and insert Phillips back there

Happens only if / when Ludwick gets back

3 - Make it mandatory that the ump behind the plate is forbidden to be back there for any more Reds games

Good luck with that

:laugh:

[Kiko]

I don't disagree. But over the last month Cozart has actually had a HIGHER OPS than the other two main candidates to bat second -- Phillips and Paul.

I'm not disagreeing. I just think the ballclub has a number of guys who haven't hit consistently well this year. Add Frazier, Hanigan, Heisey.

It's too bad because the Reds are in a period now when, finally, after so many years, their pitching is really quite good. Wish the offense wsa more consistent.

I like Cozy in the two hole against a lefty. I don't know his splits right now but he does do better against them. I wouldn't mind seeing Phillips in the two hole with Mez batting cleanup. This offense needs a shake up or something.

[The Operator]

Boy, I thought that was gone. Phew.

[Red Buckeye]

I really hope they don't lose to lowly Seattle. Just when they start playing good they lay a dud. And to make it even better they will fall 4.5 back of Pittsburgh.

They better find a way to score at twice in the B/9th.

If not I will be very upset!

[The Operator]

Why do they always say a well hit ball sounds like "someone stacking timber"?

Makes me think they've never actually been to a lumber yard. At least to me, it sounds nothing at all like "stacking timber".

[ProfessorTofty]

Grounder, top of the ninth over. Okay, this is it. Be great to see a walk-off here. I'd take extras if we have to.

[Tom Servo]

I wouldn't mind seeing Phillips in the two hole with Mez batting cleanup.
I've thought of this too, but I don't think Dusty would consider batting Mes cleanup.

[jojo]

He hit a HR 3 nights ago. Let's not overreact here.

I know he's your guy but he went .209/.269/.279 for June and is 3 for 16 so far in July. He's in one of his classic famine stretches.

He's basically a league average bat that survives on short bursts of superman at the plate.

[The Operator]

I really hope they don't lose to lowly Seattle. Just when they start playing good they lay a dud. And to make it even better they will fall 4.5 back of Pittsburgh.

They better find a way to score at twice in the B/9th.

If not I will be very upset!It's a looong season, my friend. We've just barely hit the halfway point and there's no way whatsoever the Pirates are going to keep this pace up. No way in hell.

Even then, we've got a 6 game lead on the 2nd wild card, so all is not lost.

[redsfaninbsg]

One day I will understand why people are in love with Devin Mesoraco. In my opinion, he's a below average fielder and average with the bat.

[The Operator]

Oliver Perez is still around, eh? This offense won't hit him.

[Kc61]

It's a looong season, my friend. We've just barely hit the halfway point and there's no way whatsoever the Pirates are going to keep this pace up. No way in hell.

Even then, we've got a 6 game lead on the 2nd wild card, so all is not lost.

Yeah, but the offense doesn't hit consistently. The team has other attributes, true, and all is certainly not lost.

But I wish the offense was more consistent.

[The Operator]

One day I will understand why people are in love with Devin Mesoraco. In my opinion, he's a below average fielder and average with the bat.
Average with the bat out of a catcher is really quite a nice thing to have.

[Red Raindog]

Bruce back to bum status

[The Operator]

Yeah, but the offense doesn't hit consistently. The team has other attributes, true, and all is certainly not lost.

But I wish the offense was more consistent.Oh, you'll get no argument from me on that. This offense frustrates the bejeezus out of me.

I just always try to balance out my negative emotions with something positive. Makes being a fan much easier, lol.

[foxfire123]

3 - Make it mandatory that the ump behind the plate is forbidden to be back there for any more Reds games

We can fix that. Shanghai the guy after the game, beat him with wiffle bats until he promises to get glasses....

I also know a guy who knows a guy, know what I'm sayin'....? :thumbup:

[ProfessorTofty]

Reds down to their final out.

[The Operator]

Oliver Perez still owns us it seems.

[DocRed]

Another great effort by the Red's offense...

[Kc61]

One day I will understand why people are in love with Devin Mesoraco. In my opinion, he's a below average fielder and average with the bat.

Gotta give Mes some time, he's progressing. He has some good at bats. Needs to generate some more power.

Needs work defensively, but I think he'll hit eventually.

[redsfaninbsg]

Average with the bat out of a catcher is really quite a nice thing to have.

Below average as a fielder as a catcher can kill you. If he ever gets to average as a fielder, I'll jump on the bandwagon. He's no where close right now.

[Tom Servo]

perez looking like chapman against the reds

[dsmith421]

The offense needs a shot in the arm in the worst way.

[The Operator]

I don't think I've ever seen someone notch an easier save. That was pathetic.

[dsmith421]

Has there ever been a team with a worse bench? I mean, Hannahan, Robinson, Heisey, Izturis, these guys are absolutely atrocious.

[Kiko]

The offense needs a shot in the arm in the worst way.

You mean DRob is not the answer?