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TheBigLebowski
07-14-2013, 12:46 PM
Let's get 'em today, Rojos.

7/14 lineup: Choo 8, Robinson 7, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Frazier 5, Cozart 6, Mesoraco 2, Cingrani LHP

Ironman92
07-14-2013, 12:52 PM
Prefer Heisey over Robinson but just a slight preference as Robinson is fine but I prefer Heisey in LF and he's got some pop.

TheBigLebowski
07-14-2013, 12:54 PM
Prefer Heisey over Robinson but just a slight preference as Robinson is fine but I prefer Heisey in LF and he's got some pop.

Yeah. Obviously I am a Robinson fan given my sig, but it's mostly because he is a local guy. I know he has his merits but he is what he is. Heisey has been smoking the ball lately and I would definitely prefer he be in the lineup.

mbgrayson
07-14-2013, 01:32 PM
Yeah. Obviously I am a Robinson fan given my sig, but it's mostly because he is a local guy. I know he has his merits but he is what he is. Heisey has been smoking the ball lately and I would definitely prefer he be in the lineup.
Me too, but Heisey is available to pinch hit!

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 01:51 PM
http://www.icollect247.com/itempics/543_1337055720A.jpg

TheBigLebowski
07-14-2013, 01:56 PM
http://www.icollect247.com/itempics/543_1337055720A.jpg

Awesome.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 02:00 PM
Freeman is out of this game and possibly out of the AS game as well. If he is, I wonder if Puig will take his place.

TheBigLebowski
07-14-2013, 02:20 PM
Freeman is out of this game and possibly out of the AS game as well. If he is, I wonder if Puig will take his place.

Isn't it required that it be Puig considering the vote?

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 02:34 PM
Isn't it required that it be Puig considering the vote?

Seems like that would be fair.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 02:34 PM
Isn't it required that it be Puig considering the vote?

Don't think so, pretty sure it's strictly managers choice.
Of course he could pick Puig because of the vote, I guess that would be easy to justify. But man, would it ever piss off Marty, Paplebon and others.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:37 PM
Isn't it required that it be Puig considering the vote?

Puig is hurt too. He has left too games in a row early due to a sore left hip

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:39 PM
Choo with a long drive but robbed on the warning track.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 02:40 PM
Heck of a catch.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:40 PM
Robinson pops out to left on the first pitch

joshua
07-14-2013, 02:42 PM
I think our first two spots in the order should be seeing more than four pitches.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:43 PM
Votto grounds out to 1st. 0-0 mid 1st.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 02:44 PM
What was wrong with the 1st 2 pitches? Looked very hittable...

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:47 PM
Costanza grounds out to 2nd

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:48 PM
Simmons strikes out swinging on a high 95 MPH fastball

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 02:49 PM
Chris Johnson hitting 3rd? A real Sunday special by Atlanta.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:50 PM
Johnson flies out to the track in center. 0-0 after 1.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:54 PM
Phillips grounds out to short

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:55 PM
Bruce singles to right

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:58 PM
Frazier is hit by the pitch. 1st and 2nd.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 02:58 PM
OUCH!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 02:59 PM
Hit him in a bad spot on the wrist.

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 02:59 PM
i heard his f bomb here in chicago

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:00 PM
Cozart flies out to right. Bruce to 3rd. 1st and 3rd.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:03 PM
If Rocco gets on base by a walk pinch hit for the pitcher

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:03 PM
Mesoraco strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:08 PM
Gattis flies out to right

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:09 PM
Uggla strikes out swinging. 2 Ks.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:10 PM
R. Johnson reaches as Frazier (no sunglasses) loses a pop out in the sun.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:10 PM
Get thee a pair of sunglasses, Fraiz.

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:11 PM
Lack of sunglasses is inexcusable on a day like this.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:11 PM
Cozart had his. Kinda

Billy Hamilton's Legs
07-14-2013, 03:11 PM
anybody else notice that sick breaking ball for the second strike against uggla? if he can get better at throwing that consistently, we have ourselves a pretty amazing pitcher on our hands

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:13 PM
unreal

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:13 PM
Ugh. Poor Cingrani.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
07-14-2013, 03:13 PM
please momma, make it stop

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:13 PM
Laird doulbles to right. Diving try by Bruce but just can't get to it. 1-0 Braves

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:13 PM
That was a great attempt by Bruce

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:13 PM
That run exemplifies why the team is in third right now.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:14 PM
Yep. That's an "earned" run alright.

RedsfaninMT
07-14-2013, 03:14 PM
That blown play is going to bite Cingrani/Reds. He was about to get out of the inning with low pitch count...and now a run scores.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:14 PM
That was about as bad a break as you could get this inning. If we didn't have any bad luck, we'd have no luck at all.

Crumbley
07-14-2013, 03:16 PM
That was about as bad a break as you could get this inning. If we didn't have any bad luck, we'd have no luck at all.

Nothing to do with luck, they're unprepared. But a pair of sunglasses on.

dougdirt
07-14-2013, 03:16 PM
That run exemplifies why the team is in third right now.

No it doesn't. The fact that St Louis and Pittsburgh are both on pace to win 99 games is why.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:16 PM
The Baseball Gods continue to urinate all over our parade. What a freakin' joke.

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:16 PM
where was that pitch?

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:17 PM
the hell did that miss?

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:17 PM
Terdoslavich walks. Already 14 extra pitches Cingrani has had to thrown since the blown pop up.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:17 PM
That blind ump better call that same pitch a ball for the Braves. 2-2 pitch Cingrani had him struck out. More luck going against us.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 03:18 PM
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/files/2013/06/cingranisnarl.gif

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:18 PM
Nothing to do with luck, they're unprepared. But a pair of sunglasses on.

The problem was that the sun was behind the clouds and it popped out while the ball was on the way down. WLW was talking about that. But yeah, sunglasses would've helped. Bad luck was on the timing of the sun coming out and then a bloop double to follow it.

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:18 PM
latos would have exploded already:lol:

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:19 PM
Nothing to do with luck, they're unprepared. But a pair of sunglasses on.

Pretty bad luck when that's followed by a bloop into right that somehow scores the guy from first. Horrendous luck.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:19 PM
I'm sure our batters AREN'T paying attention to the fact that there is a small zone today. They'll probably go up there hacking at the first pitch.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:19 PM
well this sucks

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
Wow. Now he walks Teheran. Bases loaded.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
wow

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
Great job Frazier. Really great job.

Plus Plus
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
Gameday showing the entire bottom third of the zone as being called balls this inning.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:20 PM
Gameday showing the entire bottom third of the zone as being called balls this inning.
Pretty much.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:21 PM
I'm glad this ump is now in a hurry. How about call obvious strike 3's. Idiot.

Price was talking to him for sure.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:21 PM
Got to be tough mentally when you've already gotten 5 outs in the inning and have only gotten credit for 2 of them.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:21 PM
Cingrani's getting absolutely NOTHING at the bottom of the zone. Gameday has a BUNCH of them as strikes...CLEAR strikes.

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:21 PM
No it doesn't. The fact that St Louis and Pittsburgh are both on pace to win 99 games is why.

Come on, you know exactly what I mean. I respect your opinion a lot but the Reds have almost certainly lost enough games on plays like that to be on the lead pace. But I'll drop it because I don't have the desire to gather evidence to back what my eyes tell me.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:21 PM
I love how confident Cingrani looks on the mound, even in the face of pressure.

Cedric
07-14-2013, 03:22 PM
Thanks to Todd Frazier this game has changed completely. If you actually look like a professional half the time at the plate people might give you a pass for screwing the whole game.

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
wow...nice catch tony

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Constanza lines out right back to Cingrani. 1-0 Braves after 2.

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Nice snag by Cingrani. Could have been a lot worse.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Whew

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Now watch this joke of an ump call those same pitches strikes for Teheran.

Crumbley
07-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Cingrani is nails.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:24 PM
Thanks to Todd Frazier this game has changed completely. If you actually look like a professional half the time at the plate people might give you a pass for screwing the whole game.
Jeez, I didn't realize Frazier also gave up a bloop double, wasn't able to catch the bloop double from rightfield, and walked two guys while getting no calls from the umpire.


It happened, and it just so happened it got worse after it happened, we don't have to burn Frazier at the stake for it.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:24 PM
Anybody else worried that he dropped that liner to head in to the dugout a bit quickly and the the ump as going to act like it was a juggle?

dougdirt
07-14-2013, 03:24 PM
Come on, you know exactly what I mean. I respect your opinion a lot but the Reds have almost certainly lost enough games on plays like that to be on the lead pace. But I'll drop it because I don't have the desire to gather evidence to back what my eyes tell me.

The Reds defense has not led to 6 losses.

Crumbley
07-14-2013, 03:25 PM
Anybody else worried that he dropped that liner to head in to the dugout a bit quickly and the the ump as going to act like it was a juggle?

Multiple gasps in my living room.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:25 PM
Come on, you know exactly what I mean. I respect your opinion a lot but the Reds have almost certainly lost enough games on plays like that to be on the lead pace. But I'll drop it because I don't have the desire to gather evidence to back what my eyes tell me.

Setting aside the issue of how fair a judge your eyes are, the point still only makes sense if you're going to give the same analysis of games lost (or won) due to "bad luck" to the teams you want to compare the Reds against.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
07-14-2013, 03:25 PM
Come on, you know exactly what I mean. I respect your opinion a lot but the Reds have almost certainly lost enough games on plays like that to be on the lead pace. But I'll drop it because I don't have the desire to gather evidence to back what my eyes tell me.

Yea, I'm with you. The Reds are in a battle against themselves, not necessarily other teams. Sure the other teams are playing well, but if you don't hold yourself to the highest standard then you'll never win the WS.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Perfect bunt. Absolutely flawless.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Tony C!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Great bunt by Cingrani for a hit

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Rookie squeezing by the ump?

WVRedsFan
07-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Tony C is a ballplayer

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:26 PM
Watching Cigrani reminds me so much of watching Carlos Zambrano. With Latos, he's clearly a hot-head but he doesn't have the same "I'm going to kill that guy" look...

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:27 PM
He can bunt and run!

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 03:27 PM
Perfect bunt. Absolutely flawless.

Can he play left field and bat second?

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:27 PM
I heart bunting for base hits.

I hate sac bunts.

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:27 PM
The Reds defense has not led to 6 losses.

Perhaps not. I'll never vent in a game thread again because I forgot that being emotional and using hyperbole is not allowed anymore. I'm usually in the sunshine brigade, but even I can only take so many bonehead plays.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:28 PM
With that bunt, I noticed Cingrani bent his knees, dropped his butt and kept the bat level to get ahold of it and put it on the ground. I wonder if he can teach the rest of the guys who seem to think you should angle the bat down, take a psuedo-swing and end up popping it up.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:28 PM
Choooooooooooo

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:28 PM
Choo lines a single to center. 1st and 3rd.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:28 PM
Get that run back RIGHT NOW! 1st & 3rd after the Choo rope.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:29 PM
Perhaps not. I'll never vent in a game thread again because I forgot that being emotional and using hyperbole is not allowed anymore. I'm usually in the sunshine brigade, but even I can only take so many bonehead plays.

Save the drama for your mama

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 03:29 PM
Good base running by C.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 03:29 PM
Choo keeping that hitting streak alive.

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:30 PM
Setting aside the issue of how fair a judge your eyes are, the point still only makes sense if you're going to give the same analysis of games lost (or won) due to "bad luck" to the teams you want to compare the Reds against.

I agree, but see my response to Doug. Sometimes I miss the freewheeling nature of the old game threads. I usually love to carefully analyze things, but sometimes I relish a visit to the virtual sports bar.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:30 PM
ugh

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:30 PM
Robinson pops out to short.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Robinson goes up there hacking at the first pitch again, fouled it off. Then pops up on the next pitch.

Votto with a double. We're all tied!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Votto lines a double to right. 1-1. 2nd and 3rd.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:31 PM
So Falcon7, how was that?

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Nicely done, Joey!

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Way to be aggressive Joey!

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
Way to go Joe!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
Phillips grounds out to short. 2-1 Reds. Votto to 3rd

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
"I lost my mind Chris Welsh." :laugh:

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
Not quite a base hit up the middle, JD.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
2-1 Reds

TheBigLebowski
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Wow..Day is really poor.

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
jim day - base hit up the middle:laugh:

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Nice call Jim...

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
"I lost my mind Chris Welsh." :laugh:

Who is that talking? Nevermind...Jim Day.

BRUUUUUUUUUCE!!!! :jump:

alloverjr
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Jim Day is horrible. I miss Thom, badly. Bye Jay!

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Bruuuuuuuuce!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Bruce with a bomb to right! 4-1 Reds!!!

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce! :jump:

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
BRUCE!!!

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuce

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Wow! Finally a HR...

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:33 PM
Teheran's reaction was priceless! Haha!

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Bruce!!!!

Stray
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Not Jim Day's best inning lol

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Woohoo. Everything is better now!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
That was Bruce's first homer in 3 weeks

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Who is that talking? Nevermind...Jim Day.

BRUUUUUUUUUCE!!!!

The one, the only, the incomparable Jim Day. Nm, just saw your post.

WVRedsFan
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
I'd say that HBP and the ump squeezing Cingrani got the team fired up. Bruce with a bomb.

Crumbley
07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Frazier flies out to center.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Bruce up to 830 for the season

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Not Jim Day's best inning lol

Judging from the results maybe we should encourage him to have more bad innings.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 03:36 PM
Frazier with an excellent Jim Day base hit to end the inning

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:36 PM
Reds up 4-1 after 2 1/2.
Pirates down 3-0 to the Mets in the 3rd (mets threatening)

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:37 PM
Why does Frazier even use his right hand at all when batting? He should go up there holding the bat with just his left hand. You know he wants to.

Frazier has been so "meh" that I wouldn't be surprised to see Scott Rolen join this team for the second half. Maybe all this rest is exactly what Scotty Roles needed. Sure sounded like he was having second thoughts about his retirement. Stranger things have happened.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:37 PM
Jim Day reminds me a little of the ol' left-hander. He might not be the most eloquent or accurate, but I still feel like he's just telling me about what's happening. I'll take that over Tom Brennaman's getting worked up over everything act any day.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:38 PM
So Falcon7, how was that?

Excellent! Agressive AB!

Cedric
07-14-2013, 03:38 PM
Jim Day reminds me a little of the ol' left-hander. He might not be the most eloquent or accurate, but I still feel like he's just telling me about what's happening. I'll take that over Tom Brennaman's getting worked up over everything act any day.

You have a biased ear. The stats clearly show Marty is a superior announcer :)

Edit: Re read and noticed you said thom. I agree with you there

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:38 PM
I'm torn: I don't get alot of time off from work. I'm sick. I got about 3 hours sleep last night.
I need a nap.
I have two hours before I need to pick up Amanda at work.
Little Votto is sleeping here on the couch.

But the Redss are winning.

Big Klu
07-14-2013, 03:39 PM
Congratulations to Jay Bruce, who has passed BRM legends Joe Morgan and Pete Rose for 14th place on the Reds' all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Brandon Phillips - 154
14. Jay Bruce - 153
15. Joe Morgan - 152
15. Pete Rose - 152
17. Joey Votto - 148
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:39 PM
Simmons walks

Red Raindog
07-14-2013, 03:39 PM
I'm torn: I don't get alot of time off from work. I'm sick. I got about 3 hours sleep last night.
I need a nap.
I have two hours before I need to pick up Amanda at work.
Little Votto is sleeping here on the couch.

But the Redss are winning.

got to stay on it -- if the lead is lost while you are gone it will all be on you

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:39 PM
C'mon Tony, strikes.

PumpFak3First
07-14-2013, 03:40 PM
Is Cingrani fast or something?

UPRedsFan
07-14-2013, 03:41 PM
My goodness. Frazier does not look like he belongs in this league. Wonder if he shouldn't be sent down to work on some mechanics and pitch recognition and let Rodriguez have a couple weeks at 3b

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:41 PM
Let's go Tony. Settle down. Missing badly.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:41 PM
Dusty may need a quick hook today.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:41 PM
Johnson bloop hit to center. 1st and 3rd.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:42 PM
My goodness. Frazier does not look like he belongs in this league. Wonder if he shouldn't be sent down to work on some mechanics and pitch recognition and let Rodriguez have a couple weeks at 3b
Frazier in a slump is still better than Rodriguez at his best.

dougdirt
07-14-2013, 03:42 PM
I agree, but see my response to Doug. Sometimes I miss the freewheeling nature of the old game threads. I usually love to carefully analyze things, but sometimes I relish a visit to the virtual sports bar.

I am the jerk at the local sports bar who will still call people out for emotional rants that are wrong.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:42 PM
Man, Welsh is annoying as hell today. Talking about what's wrong with Cingrani. Uh, he's getting squeezed? He was throwing a perfect game through 2 until Frazier lost a ball in the sun? Then Cingrani gave up a bloop double. Did I mention he's getting squeezed?

Welsh has not mentioned one time what an awful job the home plate ump is doing. It's fine if you want to be critical of Cingrani. But at least be balanced and show both sides. Mention the fact that he's gotten squeezed on about 5 calls.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:43 PM
Why does Frazier even use his right hand at all when batting? He should go up there holding the bat with just his left hand. You know he wants to.

Frazier has been so "meh" that I wouldn't be surprised to see Scott Rolen join this team for the second half. Maybe all this rest is exactly what Scotty Roles needed. Sure sounded like he was having second thoughts about his retirement. Stranger things have happened.

Reds got a 724 ops out of third last year.

Frazier at 730 this year.

(No opinion from me, stating a fact)

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:44 PM
got to stay on it -- if the lead is lost while you are gone it will all be on you

The nap would be on the couch with the tv on

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:44 PM
Man, Welsh is annoying as hell today. Talking about what's wrong with Cingrani. Uh, he's getting squeezed? He was throwing a perfect game through 2 until Frazier lost a ball in the sun? Then Cingrani gave up a bloop double. Did I mention he's getting squeezed?

Welsh has not mentioned one time what an awful job the home plate ump is doing. It's fine if you want to be critical of Cingrani. But at least be balanced and show both sides. Mention the fact that he's gotten squeezed on about 5 calls.

He WAS getting squeezed. He's since lost his release point badly. He looks to be aiming the ball.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:44 PM
Cingrani with major control problems today

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:45 PM
I am the jerk at the local sports bar who will still call people out for emotional rants that are wrong.

Understood. No biggie, I'm an emotional guy who sometimes says silly things in the heat of the moment. At least that's what my wife says.

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 03:45 PM
Maybe if the Braves get a few more injuries we might be able to hold on and pull this out.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:46 PM
lol of course

Red in Chicago
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Bad throw

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Wow. Gattis lines out to short. Cozart then attempts to get the runner off first but the throw is way off allowing the run to score. 4-2 Reds

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Sac fly to SS......

Though Joey needs to get his body behind that one.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Reds got a 724 ops out of third last year.

Frazier at 730 this year.

(No opinion from me, stating a fact)

Oh, Rolen was awful last year. Was just pointing out that Rolen might be better now, despite being a bit older, because he's had all the rest.

It's just too bad Frazier hasn't played well enough to make all of this a moot point. Frazier was much better last year than this.

dougdirt
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Understood. No biggie, I'm an emotional guy who sometimes says silly things in the heat of the moment. At least that's what my wife says.

Just don't say them about your wife and I am sure it will all be fine.

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Cozart error-should not have been thrown.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Damn. Another bad break. Well...bad decision there more like. Nice stab of a liner to Cozy...tries to double up at first...throws it away and a run scores.

Poor job by Votto too though. Zero attempt to block the ball.

reds1869
07-14-2013, 03:47 PM
Wow. Cingrani has to be frustrated beyond belief.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:48 PM
I'm torn: I don't get alot of time off from work. I'm sick. I got about 3 hours sleep last night.
I need a nap.
I have two hours before I need to pick up Amanda at work.
Little Votto is sleeping here on the couch.

But the Redss are winning.

You were kidding about a 113 degree temp, right? Cause unless you are the Man of Steel, you would be dead.
I was very sick, a couple of weeks ago, I really thought this may be it. Doctors did not have a clue, and still don't? My temp was 103 to 104.5 off and on for about 4 days.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Yeah that's on both Cozart and Votto, poor job on both ends.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Simon warming.

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Damn. Another bad break. Well...bad decision there more like. Nice stab of a liner to Cozy...tries to double up at first...throws it away and a run scores.

Poor job by Votto too though. Zero attempt to block the ball.

I agree that Votto should have blocked the ball. I wonder if the umpire somewhat blocked Votto's view of the throw. Still a bad throw by Cozart.

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 03:49 PM
What ever happened to the 2012 Reds?

mrherd05
07-14-2013, 03:49 PM
Votto being Votto...lazy.

Red Raindog
07-14-2013, 03:49 PM
Yeah that's on both Cozart and Votto, poor job on both ends.

Sorry to say it but I think Votto has become a poor 1B man

Crumbley
07-14-2013, 03:50 PM
Poor job by Votto too though. Zero attempt to block the ball.
Is there ever?

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:50 PM
Uggla strikes out looking. 3 Ks.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:50 PM
Votto being Votto...lazy.

:thumbdown:

Red Raindog
07-14-2013, 03:50 PM
wow - 72 pitches already!

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:51 PM
Sorry to say it but I think Votto has become a poor 1B man
This year, yes. I don't think it is something that is going to last though.

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 03:51 PM
At this rate, for Cingrani to pitch a complete game he would have to have a pitch count of around 300.

UPRedsFan
07-14-2013, 03:52 PM
Frazier in a slump is still better than Rodriguez at his best.

Ok I take it back. Soto then, or at least give Hannahan the starts against most of the righties for awhile.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:52 PM
well, it should have no runs, but it could have been worse. Need more runs.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:52 PM
R. Johnson strikes out swinging. 4 Ks. 4-2 Reds after 3.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:53 PM
You were kidding about a 113 degree temp, right? Cause unless you are the Man of Steel, you would be dead.
I was very sick, a couple of weeks ago, I really thought this may be it. Doctors did not have a clue, and still don't? My temp was 103 to 104.5 off and on for about 4 days.

I may have exaggerated my temp for dramatic purposes

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 03:53 PM
Okay, do not let the offense go to sleep now.

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 03:54 PM
I don't think 4 runs will be enough to win this one...

Red Raindog
07-14-2013, 03:54 PM
This year, yes. I don't think it is something that is going to last though.

I expect you will be right

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:54 PM
Votto being Votto...lazy.

You spelled Canadian incorrectly

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 03:54 PM
I'd let Tony go out for one more inning, but if he walks a guy...I yank him. His release point is all over the place. Arm slot too. I had to go back and watch it (normally watch the catcher).

This many pitches in just 3 innings...pitch count isn't as much of a factor as fatigue is.

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 03:55 PM
This year, yes. I don't think it is something that is going to last though.

How long before it stops?

RiverRat13
07-14-2013, 03:56 PM
Just catching up on the game thread. IMO, there's no need for you to apologize for anything you posted, reds1869. A pretty innocent and obvious post of frustration. I have no clue why anyone saw the need to take it literally.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 03:57 PM
How long before it stops?
Hopefully by the end of this season, if not, I'm sure his primary focus in the offseason will be on defense.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 03:58 PM
Cozart strikes out swinging. 10 pitch AB.

Gunner44
07-14-2013, 03:58 PM
Votto being Votto...lazy.

Troll

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 03:58 PM
When Joey came up he was a poor first baseman but it appeared to be inexperience more than lack of ability. Sure enough he obviously really worked at it and became a golden glover. That's why this demise is so wierd. It really appears to be lack of concentration.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 03:59 PM
Hopefully by the end of this season, if not, I'm sure his primary focus in the offseason will be on defense.

It's possible his defensive subroutines were damaged and the drivers may need to be reinstalled. Quick trip to 2045 for a reboot should take care of it

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:00 PM
Mesoraco strikes out swinging for the 2nd time today

BCubb2003
07-14-2013, 04:01 PM
Somewhere there's an Iranian prospect named Bogota.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 04:01 PM
I'm a Mesoraco supporter, but his case for more playing time in Hanigan's absence is going about as poorly as possible right now.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:02 PM
Cingrani grounds out to the pitcher. 4-2 Reds mid 4th.

Raisor
07-14-2013, 04:02 PM
Mesoraco strikes out swinging for the 2nd time today

I blame it on his parents

Raisor
07-14-2013, 04:03 PM
Think how witty I am when my temp isn't 213

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:05 PM
Nice start there. Pretty breaking ball. Now a fastball strike.

Good sign.

texasdave
07-14-2013, 04:06 PM
Freeman is out of this game and possibly out of the AS game as well. If he is, I wonder if Puig will take his place.

Reds never get any breaks, I swear. I read it on a message board so it must be true. :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:06 PM
Laird strikes out swinging. 5 Ks.

RedsManRick
07-14-2013, 04:08 PM
Nice to see him throwing that slurve a bit, but man, that thing is just begging to deposited 20 rows up if it finds too much zone.

dougdirt
07-14-2013, 04:08 PM
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/files/2013/07/teheranbruce.gif

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:09 PM
Terdoslavich flies out

dougdirt
07-14-2013, 04:09 PM
Nice to see him throwing that slurve a bit, but man, that thing is just begging to deposited 20 rows up if it finds too much zone.

Isn't every breaking ball begging for that if it finds too much of the zone? Breaking balls only work at the bottom of the zone.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:11 PM
Teheran singles to left

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:11 PM
That trivia question....only reds rookie to be selected to the all star game. That's not right is it? I mean Bench was, but so was Sabo...right?

reds1869
07-14-2013, 04:12 PM
Nice aggressive play by Votto.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:12 PM
Constanza grounds into a 3-6 FC. 4-2 Reds after 4

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 04:13 PM
Am I the only one who has never heard of 1/2 these Braves playing today?

texasdave
07-14-2013, 04:14 PM
That trivia question....only reds rookie to be selected to the all star game. That's not right is it? I mean Bench was, but so was Sabo...right?

Was it limited to position players? Wayne Simpson was an All-Star his rookie season.

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 04:14 PM
Didn't this Constanza fellow used to play for us? back when we really needed left handed hitters?

texasdave
07-14-2013, 04:14 PM
Am I the only one who has never heard of 1/2 these Braves playing today?

You and Freddie Gonzalez. :)

texasdave
07-14-2013, 04:15 PM
Didn't this Constanza fellow used to play for us? back when we really needed left handed hitters?

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :)

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 04:15 PM
Didn't this Constanza fellow used to play for us? back when we really needed left handed hitters?
Yes, back when he was white.

RedsfaninMT
07-14-2013, 04:15 PM
Was it limited to position players? Wayne Simpson was an All-Star his rookie season.

I think the key to that question was "as a starter." I thought it was Bench, but sure could be wrong.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 04:16 PM
Choooooooooooooooooooooo! :jump:

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:16 PM
Choo homers to left! 5-2 Reds!

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:16 PM
CHOOOOOOOOO! :jump:

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 04:16 PM
Choo HR!

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 04:17 PM
Chooooooooooooooooooo!

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:17 PM
Robinson flies out to center.

texasdave
07-14-2013, 04:17 PM
I think the key to that question was "as a starter." I thought it was Bench, but sure could be wrong.

Ah. Didn't see the question. That makes sense though.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2013, 04:17 PM
Yes, back when he was white.

http://www.nasorb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Costanza-Baseball.png

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 04:18 PM
That trivia question....only reds rookie to be selected to the all star game. That's not right is it? I mean Bench was, but so was Sabo...right?

Frank Robinson was named as a starter in his rookie season in 1956.
Johnny Bench was named an all star in his rookie year of 1968 but was not a starter.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:18 PM
Votto walks

BCubb2003
07-14-2013, 04:18 PM
[QUOTE=texasdave;2908992]Was it limited to position players? Wayne Simpson was an All-Star his rookie season.[/]
Frank Robinson was on the team, too.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:18 PM
Was it limited to position players? Wayne Simpson was an All-Star his rookie season.

good point. I must've missed something in the question. Maybe it was starters only. I think Sabo was a backup.

texasdave
07-14-2013, 04:19 PM
A split is fine. And if Atlanta wants to play Curly, Larry and Moe, that's cool too.

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 04:19 PM
good point. I must've missed something in the question. Maybe it was starters only. I think Sabo was a backup.

Sabo was a reserve.

Mutaman
07-14-2013, 04:20 PM
Yes, back when he was white.

As I recall the Costanza that played for us was a pretty swarthy fellow. Always seemed like he needed a shave.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:20 PM
Phillips just missed one.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:21 PM
Phillips flies out to the track in left. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:23 PM
Frank Robinson was named as a starter in his rookie season in 1956.
Johnny Bench was named an all star in his rookie year of 1968 but was not a starter.

Well done RB. I'd forgotten about Frank. And yes, it was starter only. For some reason I thought JB got voted in too.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:24 PM
Bruce flies out to left. 5-2 Reds mid 5th

Falcon7
07-14-2013, 04:25 PM
Well done RB. I'd forgotten about Frank. And yes, it was starter only. For some reason I thought JB got voted in too.

Did they vote back then?

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 04:26 PM
Well done RB. I'd forgotten about Frank. And yes, it was starter only. For some reason I thought JB got voted in too.

I cheated. :laugh:
My first thought was Bench. I quickly went to baseball reference.com and checked out Bench, Robby and Rose, and found it was Frank.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:27 PM
Did they vote back then?

I'm assuming they did. I remember voting when I was a kid back in the early 70's. No clue when they started.

Tom Servo
07-14-2013, 04:27 PM
Hoover in.

_Sir_Charles_
07-14-2013, 04:27 PM
Hoover in.

Reds Fanatic
07-14-2013, 04:28 PM
Hoover in to pitch.

Simmons grounds out to short

BCubb2003
07-14-2013, 04:28 PM
Did they vote back then?

Reds ballot stuffing was the next year, 1957, then it was shut down until the 70s.

RedsBaron
07-14-2013, 04:28 PM
Did they vote back then?

I think fans selected the team in 1956. I haven't looked this up but I think it was in 1957 or 58 that Reds fans stuffed the ballot and produced an a NL all star team of all Reds save for Stan Musial, causing the vote by fans to be taken away until 1969.