Reds v. Padres 8/10/13 - Yes, Cozart is batting second

[NebraskaRed]

Reds:

Choo 8, Cozart 6, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Paul 7, Mesoraco 2, Hannahan 5, Cingrani 1

Padres:

Denorfia RF, Venable CF, Headley 3B, Guzman LF, Alonso 1B, Gyorko 2B, Forsythe SS, Hundley C, Ross P

[Matt700wlw]

Sometimes laughter is the best medicine

[LexRedsFan]

.....WHY

[westofyou]

.....WHY

Why does it matter?

Mez or JH are the other options at this particular juncture

The continuing hysteria over the # 2 slot is easily the most over commented aspect of this Reds season by far, it's a din

[Brutus]

Why does it matter?

Mez or JH are the other options at this particular juncture

The continuing hysteria over the # 2 slot is easily the most over commented aspect of this Reds season by far, it's a din

Most commented and most annoying.

Frankly, it's much ado about nothing. The most optimistic projections have it "maybe" meaning a difference in two wins total over the course of a season. That means to this point in the season, all of the hand-wringing Redszone is guilty of has been about "maybe" 5-15 runs over the course of a year and very easily not even that.

[CySeymour]

Two games could mean the division or wild card. How is that insignificant?

[Jerry Narron]

Watch Cozart go 4-4 tonight with 2 HR's.

[Brutus]

Two games could mean the division or wild card. How is that insignificant?

Two games could be added by randomness alone or by having an even worse lineup than what people perceive Dusty's to be.

That's the whole point. People are complaining about something with such a little return that it could be just as easily achieved by complete and utter luck.

People need to stop acting like "could" is the same as "should" or "would."

[Buckeye33]

The Reds have no real options currently for the 2 hole, but I just don't understand why you don't run Frazier back out there in the 2 after he actually has a good game? After coming off an 0-31.

[Raisor]

Why does it matter?

Mez or JH are the other options at this particular juncture

The continuing hysteria over the # 2 slot is easily the most over commented aspect of this Reds season by far, it's a din

Actually I think it's the continuing hysteria over the continuing hysteria is the most over commented aspect of the Reds season by far.

On the other hand, you could make the argument that the continuing hysteria of the continuing hysteria if the continuing hysteria is.

[Raisor]

Watch Cozart go 4-4 tonight with 2 HR's.

On the plus side, he's got a 728 ops for August.

I'd still rather leave Frazier there the rest if the season. But what can ya do?

[Brutus]

Actually I think it's the continuing hysteria over the continuing hysteria is the most over commented aspect of the Reds season by far.

On the other hand, you could make the argument that the continuing hysteria of the continuing hysteria if the continuing hysteria is.

What you're saying is that no matter which way you slice it, there's a lot of continuing hysteria.

[Brutus]

The Reds have no real options currently for the 2 hole, but I just don't understand why you don't run Frazier back out there in the 2 after he actually has a good game? After coming off an 0-31.

My instinct is that if Frazier were in the lineup, he'd still be in the 2-hole since it's worked the last few days. I guess the question is: why is Frazier not in the lineup? It could be that he has some sort of minor injury or wasn't feeling well, or some other reason we're not privy to. Obviously fair to wonder.

I'm sure Dusty has his reasons, though. This is what he is commended for by all his players: managing the clubhouse. The days on/off seem to be a part of that recipe.

[NebraskaRed]

My instinct is that if Frazier were in the lineup, he'd still be in the 2-hole since it's worked the last few days. I guess the question is: why is Frazier not in the lineup? It could be that he has some sort of minor injury or wasn't feeling well, or some other reason we're not privy to. Obviously fair to wonder.

I'm sure Dusty has his reasons, though. This is what he is commended for by all his players: managing the clubhouse. The days on/off seem to be a part of that recipe.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_09_sdnmlb_cinmlb_1&mode=recap_home&c_id=cin


"I was hoping Todd would get his act together," Baker said. "We need him, big time. I probably won't play him tomorrow, because their guy throws a whole bunch of sliders, which is his nemesis. We'll have him back there the next day."

In addition, I think Hannahan hits pretty well off of Ross.

[Brutus]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_09_sdnmlb_cinmlb_1&mode=recap_home&c_id=cin



In addition, I think Hannahan hits pretty well off of Ross.

Thanks for posting that. Makes sense. Dusty has a rhyme and reason for what he does.

[Raisor]

What you're saying is that no matter which way you slice it, there's a lot of continuing hysteria.

It's like Ghost Busters

[Raisor]

Thanks for posting that. Makes sense. Dusty has a rhyme and reason for what he does.

I agree that he always has a reason for everything he does. Sometimes those reasons are kooky though.

[Brutus]

I agree that he always has a reason for everything he does. Sometimes those reasons are kooky though.

It's just Dusty's way of giving back to the RZ community.

[RedlegJake]

Cozart and the 2 hole will win the 2013 Most Valuable Topic Award for Redszone...

[BluegrassRedleg]

I think it can matter who hits in front of Votto. Has to. But I quit worrying about it during the West Coast trip. For this team to be where it wants to be, it needs better hitting 1-8. Hopefully that will happen.

[Red Raindog]

Sometimes laughter is the best medicine

or lots of :bang: :bang: :bang:

[Red Raindog]

Thanks for posting that. Makes sense. Dusty has a rhyme and reason for what he does.

but now the bad guys know that Frazier has trouble with sliders --- this can't end well ;)

[KittyDuran]

Watch Cozart go 4-4 tonight with 2 HR's.

I'll take it! :)

[KittyDuran]

@ GABP color coordinated w/the Reds green logo hat (promotion), green t-shirt, Dragons home jersey - which I've gotten a few comments waiting for the game to start. I tweeted the pic below... Why does Leake have a feather (?) in his cap? Is it secret code or good luck charm? 6646

[KittyDuran]

Also have a "talker" a few rows behind me... :(

[davereds24]

These guys haven't seen Cingrani, I expect a dominant outing from him. Hopefully a <20 pitch first.

[757690]

Also have a "talker" a few rows behind me... :(

Best way to handle "talkers" near you, is to engage them, and talk about this new rash you've been dealing with the last few days. Ask them if they have any advice to help with the itching and the oozing. That tends to shut them up.

[KittyDuran]

Best way to handle "talkers" near you, is to engage them, and talk about this new rash you've been dealing with the last few days. Ask them if they have any advice to help with the itching and the oozing. That tends to shut them up.

Prickly heat? ;)

[Big Klu]

Anyone else having problems with the feed? I've got Cavaliers Live, and on the alternate channel I have UFC.

[Gallen5862]

I got the Royals game on MLB Network instead of The Reds game.

[DocRed]

I got the Royals game on MLB Network instead of The Reds game.

Same here WTK? No game on FSO either...:confused:

[Tom Servo]

welp, this isn't the best start

[BluegrassRedleg]

Yuk.

[ProfessorTofty]

Ouch. That was fast. Quickly 1-0 Padres.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dunn would've had it. *wink*

[Blitz Dorsey]

What an absolute pathetic way to start a game. Xavier Paul is a walking clown show in LF.

[757690]

Maybe the Reds should acquire Dunn and put him in left. Can't do worse.

[LexRedsFan]

Seems like we haven't seen Robinson much recently.

[Tom Servo]

oh jesus

[Blitz Dorsey]

What a joke.

[Gallen5862]

What happened?

[ProfessorTofty]

Wow, defense totally asleep.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Come ON!

Joey....MOVE YOUR FEET!!!! Poor throw...but STILL....that's on Votto.

[ProfessorTofty]

What happened?
Error on a throw by Hannahan allows another runner to score. Now 2-0 Padres, still with nobody out.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Not a great throw, but typical half-arsed effort from Votto we've seen all year defensively.

Error goes to Hannahan. Could have easily gone to Votto. Any HS first baseman catches that ball.

[Kingspoint]

No pitcher should have to be subjected to both Paul and Choo in the Outfield at the same time.

[Billy Hamilton's Legs]

when cingrani pitches, the defense decides not to show up

[jhiller21]

Horrible effort by Votto, that play was a joke.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cingrani's got to be looking around the diamond for somebody to suck out the poison....he's got to be feeling snakebit right now.

[Always Red]

That's on Votto, he should have had that, no question.

[Blitz Dorsey]

That's what it takes to get an out! A ball way above the batter's head!

[George Foster]

The Padres have averaged less than 3 runs the last 10 games...when you give a team 5 outs in an inning they will score some runs.

[RollyInRaleigh]

Not Focused.

[Blitz Dorsey]

That's on Votto, he should have had that, no question.

Yet people want to argue Votto hasn't been bad defensively this year. It's not just the errors (and my is he racking up the errors for a first baseman). There have been many other plays this season -- like the one we just saw -- where he could have been charged an error but wasn't.

Simply put: Votto's defense has regressed. There is no debating this.

[LexRedsFan]

Not Focused.

Seems crap like this happens every single time we have a good night and gain some ground.

Could also be confirmation bias at work.

[George Foster]

Yet people want to argue Votto hasn't been bad defensively this year. It's not just the errors (and my is he racking up the errors for a first baseman). There have been many other plays this season -- like the one we just saw -- where he could have been charged an error but wasn't.

Simply put: Votto's defense has regressed. There is no debating this.

I can also think of at least 3 balls this season he went to his right when Brandon could of had the ball easy and the runner was safe at 1st

[Tom Servo]

These guys haven't seen Cingrani, I expect a dominant outing from him. Hopefully a <20 pitch first.
22 pitches, 2 runs in, and just 1 out. :(

[George Foster]

is that like pitch 30?

[757690]

Yet people want to argue Votto hasn't been bad defensively this year. It's not just the errors (and my is he racking up the errors for a first baseman). There have been many other plays this season -- like the one we just saw -- where he could have been charged an error but wasn't.

Simply put: Votto's defense has regressed. There is no debating this.

Has anyone argued that Votto hasn't regressed? It beyond obvious.

[Blitz Dorsey]

As long as Cingrani strikes out everyone and none of our fielders have to make a play, we should be able to stay in this one.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I haven't seen anyone who's been saying he's not been worse defensively this year. There's no question about it. His effort is not there defensively. That play was just another example of a lackadaisical effort at first. His decision making over there has been pretty poor this year too. Too many times wanting to go to 2nd on a ball hit to 1st when the smart play was to take the sure out at first. Too many times ranging too far to his right leaving Phillips hung out to dry. I'm not down on Votto. Not at all. But his effort and results at first have been towards the bottom of the league this season defensively IMO.

[757690]

22 pitches, 2 runs in, and just 1 out. :(

Yeah, but should be no runs in and two outs.

[50YrRedsFan]

Cingrani will be lucky to complete 4 innings at this rate.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Has anyone argued that Votto hasn't regressed? It beyond obvious.

I'm not going to search for the posts now, but yes. And just in the last couple days.

[Blitz Dorsey]

I can't believe this guy really pronounces his name JERK-o.

[Kingspoint]

Cingrani: I'm going to have to K everyone.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Jerky Treat flies out. "Only" 2 runs score.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm not going to search for the posts now, but yes. And just in the last couple days.

Some people argue that we never landed on the moon. Anyone making the argument that Votto is having a good year (or even a fair year) defensively isn't making a valid argument. There's no need to debate it.

[50YrRedsFan]

2 innings worth of pitches to get out of the 1st.

[jojo]

Actually I think it's the continuing hysteria over the continuing hysteria is the most over commented aspect of the Reds season by far.

On the other hand, you could make the argument that the continuing hysteria of the continuing hysteria if the continuing hysteria is.

It's right up there with all of the threads on redszone wondering what would have been if Corey Patterson had taken PEDs. Oh wait, that's what Corey Patterson constantly wonders.

[wheels]

Maybe its better we don't get to watch this one in Columbus.

[George Foster]

I haven't seen anyone who's been saying he's not been worse defensively this year. There's no question about it. His effort is not there defensively. That play was just another example of a lackadaisical effort at first. His decision making over there has been pretty poor this year too. Too many times wanting to go to 2nd on a ball hit to 1st when the smart play was to take the sure out at first. Too many times ranging too far to his right leaving Phillips hung out to dry. I'm not down on Votto. Not at all. But his effort and results at first have been towards the bottom of the league this season defensively IMO.

making almost 2 million a month might make you lackadasical. I don't know...I could be wrong but I have seen it alot over the last 10-12 years after someone signs a huge contract...not just in baseball.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Maybe its better we don't get to watch this one in Columbus.

We get to watch it. Check your alt channel, bro.

That said, it's beyond ridiculous I have to watch the Reds on non-HD while the Crew is on the HD channel. The Reds get exponentially better ratings IN COLUMBUS than the Crew do. It's not even close. Way to take care of your customers!

[50YrRedsFan]

Cingrani not charged with an earned run in the 1st. Maybe the fielders should have an ERA?

[Captain Hook]

Maybe its better we don't get to watch this one in Columbus.

I'm getting the game.:confused:

[NebraskaRed]

Votto is having as good a year offensively as he's having a bad year defensively. Facts are fun.

[davereds24]

How is Votto not charged with an error since the runners advanced? Really it should be his error only on the whole play, but I guess you have to give 1 to Hannahan.

[Big Klu]

Maybe its better we don't get to watch this one in Columbus.

You having problems too? I have Cavaliers Live, and I've got UFC on the alt channel. :thumbdown:

[ProfessorTofty]

Choo takes a walk to lead it off.

[Hoosier Red]

making almost 2 million a month might make you lackadasical. I don't know...I could be wrong but I have seen it alot over the last 10-12 years after someone signs a huge contract...not just in baseball.

One year later? Did anyone doubt his effort last season?

[Blitz Dorsey]

making almost 2 million a month might make you lackadasical. I don't know...I could be wrong but I have seen it alot over the last 10-12 years after someone signs a huge contract...not just in baseball.

Since you brought it up ... I've got to admit I've been thinking the same thing. Keep in mind the knock on Votto used to be he was subpar defensively at 1B. I'm talking when he first came up from the minors. Joey then worked his ass off to become a good defensive first basemen. There were stories about him working for hours on infield practice.

You don't hear those stories anymore. Doesn't mean it's not happening, but I serious wonder if it is. Is Joey putting the same work in defensively as he used to? I don't know. If I had to guess based on the results, I would say no.

[Kingspoint]

making almost 2 million a month might make you lackadasical. I don't know...I could be wrong but I have seen it alot over the last 10-12 years after someone signs a huge contract...not just in baseball.
It's also pretty hard to take anyone's advice.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Choo stole a base!

Was anyone else saying "No, no, no ... I mean YES!"

Just so used to seeing him thrown out when stealing.

[Kingspoint]

Since you brought it up ... I've got to admit I've been thinking the same thing. Keep in mind the knock on Votto used to be he was subpar defensively at 1B. I'm talking when he first came up from the minors. Joey then worked his ass off to become a good defensive first basemen. There were stories about him working for hours on infield practice.

You don't hear those stories anymore. Doesn't mean it's not happening, but I serious wonder if it is. Is Joey putting the same work in defensively as he used to? I don't know. If I had to guess based on the results, I would say no.Managing $160M can take up a lot of one's time.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Glass half-full: Cozart WAS trying to go the other way and advance the runner.

Glass half-empty: He missed the ball by 10 inches.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Not gonna say it. :)

[Blitz Dorsey]

Managing $160M can take up a lot of one's time.

Did you just quote Puff Daddy?

"Mo Money, Mo Problems."

And worse defense.

[LexRedsFan]

Votto robbed.

Why couldn't he get an RBI? - Marty

[Captain Hook]

Glass half-full: Cozart WAS trying to go the other way and advance the runner.

Glass half-empty: He missed the ball by 10 inches.

Wanted to make sure he didn't hit into the DP.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Welp, this game is starting out to have the feel of "one of those nights."

Great play by the 2B there.

[Ironman92]

Only Phillips gets close to that ball

[George Foster]

Happy birthday Jurk-o.... the ball found your glove.

[ProfessorTofty]

Phillips base hit, it's 2-1!

[Tom Servo]

ugh, freakin jerko

[Blitz Dorsey]

JERK-o robs Votto of a hit.

But BP with RBI No. 87. Yessir.

2-1.

[LexRedsFan]

Phillips brings in Choo. 2-1

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was the pre-July BP approach to hitting. Very nice.

[LexRedsFan]

Phillips gunned easily trying to steal.

[ProfessorTofty]

Phillips hopes to duplicate Choo's feat; gets thrown out.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Looked like BP got his hand in there to me. Ball clearly beat him, but I think the ump missed that call.

Also ... BP is trying to steal bases again? What?

[NebraskaRed]

Brandon Phillips should never try to steal. Another fun fact.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Phillips gunned easily trying to steal.

Easily??? Barely, if anything.

[George Foster]

we have the slowest team in MLB... heck, even when we had Stubbs he did not steal like he should of with his speed. Of course, when your only on base once a week it's hard to steal.

[Tom Servo]

Dusty doesn't seem to have ever heard of the phrase "don't push your luck".

[NebraskaRed]

Someone less lazy than I am should figure out Brandon's slash line the last 7 games or so. Seems like he's been doing a lot better at the plate lately.

[Blitz Dorsey]

we have the slowest team in MLB... heck, even when we had Stubbs he did not steal like he should of with his speed. Of course, when your only on base once a week it's hard to steal.

Too bad we don't have a record-setting steals man waiting in the wings at AAA or anything.

[George Foster]

Brandon Phillips should never try to steal. Another fun fact.

especially with such a pull hitter as Bruce is. The whole was wide open on the right side with the first basemen covering.

[LexRedsFan]

Easily??? Barely, if anything.

I thought he was out no problem, yes.

[wheels]

We get to watch it. Check your alt channel, bro.

That said, it's beyond ridiculous I have to watch the Reds on non-HD while the Crew is on the HD channel. The Reds get exponentially better ratings IN COLUMBUS than the Crew do. It's not even close. Way to take care of your customers!

I checked all the ALT channels, and it's half naked men beating the crap out of each other.

[Tom Servo]

Cubs with an early 1-0 lead on St. Louis.

[Blitz Dorsey]

I thought he was out no problem, yes.

Watch the replay, throw was high and I think BP got his hand in there before the tag. If anything, it was bang-bang.

[LexRedsFan]

She looks fine and all, but Jeeze her voice is annoying... And she made me miss a pitch.

[George Foster]

Too bad we don't have a record-setting steals man waiting in the wings at AAA or anything.

do you think he will be called up in September? You can't steal 1st...can he get on base in the majors?

[Blitz Dorsey]

3 pitches, 2 outs for Cingrani.

[LexRedsFan]

Watch the replay, throw was high and I think BP got his hand in there before the tag. If anything, it was bang-bang.

Maybe then. I don't have DVR thanks to TWC's ridiculous fees for them.

[Gunner44]

Ball beat him. Bur I thought he was safe.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Defense certainly didn't do Tony any favors in the first inning...but the Padres are hitting the ball like they're swinging sticks of dynamite. Ball is exploding off their bats.

[Blitz Dorsey]

do you think he will be called up in September? You can't steal 1st...can he get on base in the majors?

I think he can. He's having a better year for a first-year AAA player than most are giving him credit for. That's a tough transition for most young players and he's only 22. He's still having a solid year. I don't ever expect him to be a perennial All-Star, but I think he's going to help the Reds win a lot of games over the next several years.

And yes, I think he will be a September callup.

[LexRedsFan]

Cingrani works pretty much as beautiful of an inning as you can.

[ProfessorTofty]

Quick 1-2-3-- definitely needed that after last inning.

[RedlegJake]

Phillips in August

.304/.333/.478/.811 7 hits, 1 double, 1 homer, 4 ribbies, 1 walk; 24 PAs 23 ABs

not white hot but coming around

[Gunner44]

Nice inning by Cingani

[NebraskaRed]

I wish Cueto would heal up quickly and come back as soon as he can. Having said that, Cingrani is a better replacement than I ever could have expected.

[Kingspoint]

making almost 2 million a month might make you lackadasical. I don't know...I could be wrong but I have seen it alot over the last 10-12 years after someone signs a huge contract...not just in baseball.
Like you said, it's just not baseball, but every human endeavor since the dawn of man. Humans are naturally lazy.

[Blitz Dorsey]

I checked all the ALT channels, and it's half naked men beating the crap out of each other.

Man, what kind of cable/satellite company are you using? The one Cosmo Kramer hooked up for Jerry? (There were Russians in your home recently. Just admit it.)

[VottoFan54]

BP in August: .304/.333/.478/.812

He also had a 3 hit game on July 31. Nevermind, RedlegJake does better research. :)

[Blitz Dorsey]

I wish Cueto would heal up quickly and come back as soon as he can. Having said that, Cingrani is a better replacement than I ever could have expected.

I love Cueto and I feel like we lose nothing with Cingrani out there.

That's a compliment to Cingrani. I think he's that good.

Remember the last time we had a good left-handed starting pitcher? Of course you don't.

Quite refreshing.

[wheels]

Man, what kind of cable/satellite company are you using? The one Cosmo Kramer hooked up for Jerry? (There were Russians in your home recently. Just admit it.)

Hah!

I have Time Warner, actually.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cingrani works pretty much as beautiful of an inning as you can.

Yes, it was 3 quick outs....but those 2 line outs to Paul were hammered. He's catching too much of the sweet part of the zone right now.

[Tom Servo]

I'm kind of over the X-Man.

[Blitz Dorsey]

I remember when I thought Xavier Paul was a solid bench player on the MLB level.

What the HELL was I thinking?

[RedlegJake]

BP in August: .304/.333/.478/.812

He also had a 3 hit game on July 31. Nevermind, RedlegJake does better research. :)

Naw, I was just a hair quicker on the trigger....its like we both saw it as a challenge

[George Foster]

I love Cueto and I feel like we lose nothing with Cingrani out there.

That's a compliment to Cingrani. I think he's that good.

Remember the last time we had a good left-handed starting pitcher? Of course you don't.

Quite refreshing.

Danny Jackson says Hi!:D

[Blitz Dorsey]

Hah!

I have Time Warner, actually.

Time Warner should have alt channels for Fox Sports Ohio. Course, they are Time Warner and completely suck, so you never know.

Can anyone help my boy out here? Any Cbus people with TWC?

I used to have Time Warner and dropped them for WOW cable. WOW is not available everywhere in Columbus, but it is in most areas. I highly recommend it. You should check and see if it's available where you live. (Type your zip code in on their website and find out.)

[ProfessorTofty]

Meso with a hard-hit one there, thought it might have a chance, but it's caught.

[Tom Servo]

mes just missed that

[LexRedsFan]

I remember when I thought Xavier Paul was a solid bench player on the MLB level.

What the HELL was I thinking?

We didn't have to watch him in the field much and it's not like he was really game planned for. Now he's a semi sort of regular player and teams know how to treat him.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Danny Jackson says Hi!:D

There's no way he would have remembered that. He would have tried to convince me Brandon Claussen counted or something.

:beerme:

[Red in Chicago]

i think the second time around, the reds pound this guy

[Big Klu]

Hah!

I have Time Warner, actually.

Same here.

Crew on main channel, Ultimate Fighting on alternate feed.

[wheels]

They list the Reds on Alt 1310/24/99, but it's UFC in actuality.

I am on the horn waiting to bark at someone right now.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Same here.

Crew on main channel, Ultimate Fighting on alternate feed.

Time Warner Cable, everyone.

What a complete fail. I feel sorry for you guys. Change to WOW or go satellite. TWC is the absolute worst.

[757690]

do you think he will be called up in September? You can't steal 1st...can he get on base in the majors?

Hamilton be called up, if nothing else than as a pinch runner, defensive replacement.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Cingrani just got squeezed there big time.

[Big Klu]

They list the Reds on Alt 1310/24/99, but it's UFC in actuality.

I am on the horn waiting to bark at someone right now.

I've already called. They took my info and my complaint, but I doubt if anything happens, since I'm not sure that English was their first language.

[Buckeye33]

That last pitch was PERFECT! Wow.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wow. That zone got awfully small, awfully fast.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Hey, Votto caught a ball that wasn't thrown right at him. It was on a pickup attempt. But it is possible!

[Blitz Dorsey]

Twin-killing. Poetic justice.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hey, Votto caught a ball that wasn't thrown right at him. It was on a pickup attempt. But it is possible!

That's not a positive sign. He still didn't move his feet...he just reached.

[Blitz Dorsey]

If you had Jim Kelch referring to Mesoraco as "Denorfia" ... you win!

[_Sir_Charles_]

LOL. Yeah, I caught that too. :O)

[wheels]

Time Warner is horrendous, but my condo complex won't support any other company.

I'm hoping they're overloaded with calls. I'm doing my part.... Of course I'm STILL ON HOLD.

[Buckeye33]

If you had Jim Kelch referring to Mesoraco as "Denorfia" ... you win!

Right up there with Grande thinking EVERY fly ball is a HR then adding "but it will stay in the park" as the OF catches it without moving. :bang:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Enjoy. :O)

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130810&content_id=56561040&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

[Blitz Dorsey]

Just your typical quality AB there from Jack Hannahan.

[Tom Servo]

It's almost unfathomable to me that Hannahan has still yet to hit a HR as a Red.

[50YrRedsFan]

Hannahan=minor leaguer. His OPS for Aug. is .583

[Red in Chicago]

that last swing by cingrani was one of the ugliest by a pitcher that i've seen since aaron harang

[Blitz Dorsey]

Enjoy. :O)

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130810&content_id=56561040&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Haha. It only took those announcers 3 full minutes to figure out what happened.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Hannahan=minor leaguer. His OPS for Aug. is .583

Good thing we've got him locked up for next year too and there's no risk in "losing" him!

That was quality work by Walt right there. Giving a 2-year contract to someone no one else in MLB even wanted.

[wheels]

Time Warner is "aware of the problem, and working hard to get the game on with the network".

:lol:

[Tom Servo]

Giving a 2-year contract to someone no one else in MLB even wanted.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/white-sox-marlins-eyeing-hannahan.html

[Blitz Dorsey]

Time Warner is "aware of the problem, and working hard to get the game on with the network".

:lol:

Are they aware they suck? You should threaten to change to WOW (even though you can't; they probably don't know that and might knock some off your bill).

[Blitz Dorsey]

For the record: I like Cingrani with the beard even better than the clean-shaven Cingrani we're seeing tonight.

But any Cingrani is cool with me.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Tony Ballgame has been lights out since that error-laced first inning.

[LexRedsFan]

Cincinnati guys, how's the weather? Looks grey at the stadium. We going to have any delays?

I don't feel like looking it up on my phone, and since TWC left without completing my Internet setup I can't get on my computer.

[mikemo14]

Has anyone argued that Votto hasn't regressed? It beyond obvious.
See Thread "A Little More From Joey V" Post number 66

[Blitz Dorsey]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/white-sox-marlins-eyeing-hannahan.html

A self-proclaimed "rumor" site says 5 teams have "genuine interest" in Hannahan.

Sounds like Hannahan's agent knows someone on the staff at mlbtraderumors if you ask me.

"Hey, do me a solid here. Say some BS like '5 teams have genuine interest' in my client. Thanks bro!"

[Rantly]

Has anyone argued that Votto hasn't regressed? It beyond obvious.

I'm sure that Superman avatar guy will thow some "ops" figures at you to disagree

[ProfessorTofty]

Cincinnati guys, how's the weather? Looks grey at the stadium. We going to have any delays?

I don't feel like looking it up on my phone, and since TWC left without completing my Internet setup I can't get on my computer.
Radar shows a couple of very light and isolated showers in the Cincinnati area and nothing headed that way. Should be fine.

[Tom Servo]

A self-proclaimed "rumor" site says 5 teams have "genuine interest" in Hannahan.

Sounds like Hannahan's agent knows someone on the staff at mlbtraderumors if you ask me.

"Hey, do me a solid here. Say some BS like '5 teams have genuine interest' in my client. Thanks bro!"
They list their sources, and have broken many stories.

[Blitz Dorsey]

They list their sources, and have broken many stories.

Oh, it's a good site. But don't pretend that what I say happened (Hannahan's agent asking a writer to post something that would help his client) doesn't happen all the time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Some really bad swings this inning (and last).

[Blitz Dorsey]

Paul Janish was SO bad that I was so relieved to see anyone but him as the Reds' SS that I actually allowed myself to believe that Zack Cozart was good.

It was basically "Anybody but Janish." Cozart is an upgrade over Soft-J, but not much of one.

[Matt700wlw]

Cincinnati guys, how's the weather? Looks grey at the stadium. We going to have any delays?

I don't feel like looking it up on my phone, and since TWC left without completing my Internet setup I can't get on my computer.

Overcast. No rain expected.

[Stray]

Looked like Votto knew those last two pitches were balls before the pitcher even released the ball.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Some really bad swings this inning (and last).

"Inning" or "year"?

[LexRedsFan]

Votto advances to second on the WP/PB. Prevents Phillips from grounding into a Phillips.

[_Sir_Charles_]

F-bomb deluxe from Brandon there.

[Blitz Dorsey]

That's just a real good 3-2 pitch right there.

[Blitz Dorsey]

This guy would be crazy to pitch to Bruce here.

[Blitz Dorsey]

And here comes the Artist Formerly Known as Xavier Paul.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Smart move. 3-0 to Jay...IBB and pitch to Paul.

Xavier smokes one, but right at second. 2 left stranded.

[Tom Servo]

damnit

[Blitz Dorsey]

Telling you: It all started going downhill for him when he said he wanted his first name pronounced "EGG-xavier."

Especially in Cincinnati, not a good move, man.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Keep in mind this is a Padres team without two of their main players.

Wait, don't keep that in mind. Stay sane.

[Tom Servo]

Holliday homers. 3-1 St. Louis.

[kbrake]

What the hell is going on?

[Blitz Dorsey]

Jack Hannahan is completely worthless. I can't believe he's even in the Majors.

Again: At least there's no risk in losing him after this year! (We have to laugh ... or we'll cry.)

[Tom Servo]

jeez

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wow. Okay, that's an error Hannahan really deserves.

[OnBaseMachine]

Frazier finally breaks out of his slump, and Dusty sits him in favor of Hannahan, who is killing the team tonight.

[Rantly]

Time Warner is "aware of the problem, and working hard to get the game on with the network".

:lol:

Can't find game either. I got on here to see if anybody else couldn't find game...I suppose you talked to somebody in texas

[Always Red]

What happened to my fundamentally sound Redlegs this year?

[NebraskaRed]

What happened to my fundamentally sound Redlegs this year?

They have a messy, awful defense every now and then like every team?

[Blitz Dorsey]

Frazier finally breaks out of his slump, and Dusty sits him in favor of Hannahan, who is killing the team tonight.

Sounds about right.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Just curious, how many times has this kind of thing happened to you guys. I'm watching this game and I'm thinking to myself, when in the world did Nick Hundley move to catcher? I was blown away by it. I'm thinking, this guy is a really solid defensive thirdbaseman and one heck of a hitter. Maybe all these PED suspensions have forced him to fill in or something. So I start doing some research, seeing if he'd ever played catcher before. I pull up the first page and then...boom. Oh, that's not CHASE HEADLEY. Man, I'm a doofus. :O) 45 is a bit young for senility to set in isn't it? *grin*

[Blitz Dorsey]

Good. I couldn't take that dork Denorfia doing anything else to hurt us.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Just curious, how many times has this kind of thing happened to you guys. I'm watching this game and I'm thinking to myself, when in the world did Nick Hundley move to catcher? I was blown away by it. I'm thinking, this guy is a really solid defensive thirdbaseman and one heck of a hitter. Maybe all these PED suspensions have forced him to fill in or something. So I start doing some research, seeing if he'd ever played catcher before. I pull up the first page and then...boom. Oh, that's not CHASE HEADLEY. Man, I'm a doofus. :O) 45 is a bit young for senility to set in isn't it? *grin*

Headley and Hundley look/sound a lot alike. You are not alone.

[Always Red]

They have a messy, awful defense every now and then like every team?

Plus, throw in the mindless base running we've seen this year, all year long.

We've not seen his kind of baseball out of the Reds in a while.

I'm not panicking, I'm not trashing or hating on them, I'm just noticing a difference.

[Tom Servo]

Marcus McBeth reference.

[Rantly]

I also had headly hundly confusion last week.

[Tom Servo]

Cingrani uncorks one

[ProfessorTofty]

Got out of it. Still 2-1.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I also had headly hundly confusion last week.

Good to know I'm not alone. I dread the day I have one of those moments with Hanigan, Hannahan, and Hanrahan. It'll happen eventually. :O)

[mbgrayson]

Cingrani throwing a shut out through 5!

(in earned runs)

[New York Red]

That inning was yet another example of Jay Bruce's reputation saving a run. The runner could have probably tagged up 2nd to 3rd on the fly ball to RF, but didn't even try because of Bruce's arm. Then Cingrani throws a WP that would have scored that run. Just one of a ton of plays that occur in baseball that don't show up statistically.

[_Sir_Charles_]

He may not have a lot to show for it, but Devin hits the ball harder than most. The ball just jumps off his bat.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Here comes a DP.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Shocking, I tell ya!

[_Sir_Charles_]

DRob hitting for Cingrani.

You can't complain about Tony's pitch count today. Point to the defense today.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Great, and now Cingrani is out. We are GIVING away this game.

[Tom Servo]

Did Cingrani gain a 5 o'clock shadow during the course of this game? :laugh:

[dsmith421]

What is the purpose of Jack Hannahan? What is he supposed to do well?

[Blitz Dorsey]

DRob hitting for Cingrani.

You can't complain about Tony's pitch count today. Point to the defense today.

If anyone complains about Cingrani, I have a one-way ticket to North Korea for them.

[kbrake]

Great, and now Cingrani is out. We are GIVING away this game.

Why? The bullpen is good. They are just as capable of having balls hit at guys who then won't catch it.

[NebraskaRed]

Did Cingrani gain a 5 o'clock shadow during the course of this game? :laugh:

I think he pushes the facial hair out.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/files/2013/06/cingranisnarl.gif

[mbgrayson]

Did Cingrani gain a 5 o'clock shadow during the course of this game? :laugh:

No, it's a five inning shadow...lol.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2-3 now, Cubs/cards.

Cubs have missed a some golden opportunities thus far. Bases loaded 2 outs, a 1 out triple.

[50YrRedsFan]

Hannahan definitely the star of the game ---for the Padres. geesh

[Blitz Dorsey]

What is the purpose of Jack Hannahan? What is he supposed to do well?

I'm pretty sure even his mom wonders how he has a spot on an MLB roster.

[ProfessorTofty]

You'll certainly hear no complaints about Cingrani from me. All things considered, he's been a delightful addition to the team.

[UCBrownsfan]

I'm trying to recall a player having a worse game than hannahan is having tonight?

[Big Klu]

Still tuned in to UFC. Nearly two hours of this crap!

[mbgrayson]

I'm trying to recall a player having a worse game than hannahan is having tonight?

Games not over yet...

[_Sir_Charles_]

What is the purpose of Jack Hannahan? What is he supposed to do well?

He hasn't shown it today, but he IS a superb defensive player.

[CySeymour]

I'm pretty sure even his mom wonders how he has a spot on an MLB roster.

Did the Reds sign him for one or two years?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Still tuned in to UFC. Nearly two hours of this crap!

University of Florida Central? Do they have a good team this year?

Sorry Klu. You wanna watch via mlb.tv?

[Blitz Dorsey]

Jeez, Kelch is so clueless. He just said, seriously, "Hannahan gets a nice round of applause from the fans."

Uh, Jimmy, that's called a "Bronx cheer." Look it up.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm trying to recall a player having a worse game than hannahan is having tonight?

Look up Chris Mabeus's one and only MLB appearance

[Tom Servo]

good work Fredo

[Blitz Dorsey]

I'm trying to recall a player having a worse game than hannahan is having tonight?

Since you're a Browns fan, maybe Earnest Byner?

[50YrRedsFan]

Cingrani gives up 2 hits and no earned runs in 5 innings, and he is losing. Why would anyone want to pitch for the Reds?

[_Sir_Charles_]

good work Fredo

Everytime someone calls Simon that, I think of this. Every-friggin-time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFlp6kl508

[Gunner44]

Cingrani gives up 2 hits and no earned runs in 5 innings, and he is losing. Why would anyone want to pitch for the Reds?

Dude we'er in the middle of a modest win streak. Give. It. Up.

[Big Klu]

University of Florida Central? Do they have a good team this year?

Sorry Klu. You wanna watch via mlb.tv?

Nah, I've tuned in to the old standby, Marty and Cowboy on radio.

[Blitz Dorsey]

Completely frustrating. Especially against a scrub team like this (at home).

[George Foster]

After Frazier had a good night last night, he sits... Cozart back in the 2 hole.
What ever happened to Dusty riding the hot horse?

[50YrRedsFan]

Dude we'er in the middle of a modest win streak. Give. It. Up.

It's so frustrating to see the Reds not able to do anything against no name pitchers.

[Rantly]

Game finally on tube on TW
ch 24
1310HD

[kbrake]

After Frazier had a good night last night, he sits... Cozart back in the 2 hole.
What ever happened to Dusty riding the hot horse?

I understand the logic of not wanting Frazier to face this guy but putting your worst hitter between 2 of your best hitters makes zero sense. And Hannahan has to be better. Can't blame Dusty for his night.

[DocRed]

Wow Hanahan..get him out now please.

[ProfessorTofty]

Game finally on tube on TW
ch 24
1310HD
In Columbus, you mean. I'm in Dayton and I've been watching on Time Warner this entire time. I feel the pain for the Columbus folks, though. Wrestling? Sheesh.

[NebraskaRed]

Take him out of the game...

[kbrake]

At this point I feel bad for Hannahan. He's not a great player by any means but he is good defensively and just having one awful night.

[Rantly]

I assumed maybe Frazier was banged up...apparently no mention of why he is not playing?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yeah, it's in Jack's head now. No doubt.

That throw was completely due to overthinking. Trying to NOT throw it awry.

[DocRed]

Game finally on tube on TW
ch 24
1310HD

Same here...stupid Fox Sports, did they really have to wait for the UFC crap to finish?!?

[George Foster]

I understand the logic of not wanting Frazier to face this guy but putting your worst hitter between 2 of your best hitters makes zero sense. And Hannahan has to be better. Can't blame Dusty for his night.

Not saying anything about Hannahan defense...well now I am after that throw..3 errors now.

But Frazier was 0-33 and had a couple of hits last night...