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cumberlandreds
09-04-2013, 03:53 PM
Tonights lineup,no Ludwick. Heisey in LF.


1. Shin-Soo Choo (L) CF
2. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF
5. Chris Heisey (R) LF
6. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
7. Zack Cozart (R) SS
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
9. Bronson Arroyo (R) P

RedTeamGo!
09-04-2013, 03:59 PM
Would have liked to have seen Billy get the start against the right handed pitcher. I am not expecting Billy to go nuts on Miller or anything, but I don't think Heisey will do anything tonight.

oneupper
09-04-2013, 04:07 PM
I think our greatest concern for this game is Arroyo. The Cards have had good success against him.

11larkin11
09-04-2013, 04:15 PM
I don't think billy or Choo will be playing left. So billy may get his first start against a tough lefty. We're facing two this week against the Dodgers, and I doubt Dusty wants him against Kershaw, so we may see him in against Ryu.

Ironman92
09-04-2013, 04:28 PM
Would have liked to have seen Billy get the start against the right handed pitcher. I am not expecting Billy to go nuts on Miller or anything, but I don't think Heisey will do anything tonight.

He may not....hopefully Luddy is just getting rest.

Heisey FWIW is easily the best LF and his last 6 starts have been very productive....something like 13/27

A little odd to rest Luddy (or get Heisey AB) against the Cards. Does Heisey have past success against this pitcher?

MillerTime58
09-04-2013, 04:36 PM
Did I miss an injury to Xavier Paul? I honestly don't know if I've seen/heard him play since his big game tying pinch hit HR a couple weeks ago.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2013, 04:38 PM
Molina is in the lineup tonight. With his wrist/knee problems, the Cards sure are using him often. This will be his sixth straight start, and his second straight start after being taken out of the game Monday with a sore wrist.

Ironman92
09-04-2013, 04:48 PM
Molina is in the lineup tonight. With his wrist/knee problems, the Cards sure are using him often. This will be his sixth straight start, and his second straight start after being taken out of the game Monday with a sore wrist.

I never really believe the "sore wrist" as to him coming out. It was ridiculously hit and the Cards were ridiculously sucking....just preparing him to play the next 3 I thought.

His wrist has been an issue all year.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 05:12 PM
Did I miss an injury to Xavier Paul? I honestly don't know if I've seen/heard him play since his big game tying pinch hit HR a couple weeks ago.

Paul is strictly a pinch hitter now. Sometimes stays in the game, but doesn't start. I think the Reds feel that Heisey is going better and when Ludwick sits, Heisey gets the start, not X. And Heisey is a much superior fielder.

Arroyo should be fine if he keeps it in the stadium. Leake and Arroyo have allowed a bunch of homers at GABP, 13 and 12 respectively. Most home HRs allowed by a NL pitcher is 13, several guys tied including Leake.

I'm a bit surprised Reds felt they had to rest Ludwick tonight, I expected him to play all the Cards games, but I guess the Reds have decided he must get rest given the injury this year.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2013, 05:12 PM
I never really believe the "sore wrist" as to him coming out. It was ridiculously hit and the Cards were ridiculously sucking....just preparing him to play the next 3 I thought.

His wrist has been an issue all year.

Could be. Either way, he's complained about that wrist since the WBC, and his knee issue doesn't seem to be going away. That team would be in serious trouble if he were to get hurt right here near the end of the season.

redssince75
09-04-2013, 05:17 PM
Call me greedy, but I want all 4.

CySeymour
09-04-2013, 05:24 PM
Call me greedy, but I want all 4.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V5itjyEpEWk/UUh26SfjkvI/AAAAAAAAKa0/6aazjDcIkuE/s640/Film-Wall-Street--Greed-is-good--Gordon-Gekko---parousie.ov.jpg

REDREAD
09-04-2013, 05:32 PM
I'm a bit surprised Reds felt they had to rest Ludwick tonight, I expected him to play all the Cards games, but I guess the Reds have decided he must get rest given the injury this year.

I remember earlier that Dusty said that he liked to play Robinson when Arroyo starts because Arroyo is more of a flyball pitcher and he thought Robinson added defense that the other LF at the time (Paul and Lutz) could not give.

Maybe this is an extension of that theory. Heisey is healthy now. Maybe Dusty figures Heisey's added defense is worthwhile when Arroyo pitches, plus it gives Ludwick a day off.

Heisey has been playing well of late also.

Ironman92
09-04-2013, 05:38 PM
I remember earlier that Dusty said that he liked to play Robinson when Arroyo starts because Arroyo is more of a flyball pitcher and he thought Robinson added defense that the other LF at the time (Paul and Lutz) could not give.

Maybe this is an extension of that theory. Heisey is healthy now. Maybe Dusty figures Heisey's added defense is worthwhile when Arroyo pitches, plus it gives Ludwick a day off.

Heisey has been playing well of late also.

Quite honestly....I cannot remember Dusty ever finding a reason to play Heisey. Typically the reason is why not to.

I would like to hear Dusty's reasoning.

I'm not disagreeing or disappointed with this decision....but am surprised.

Gizmo
09-04-2013, 05:51 PM
just win.

RedEye
09-04-2013, 06:22 PM
Heisey is back up to a .737 OPS and is probably the Reds second-best defensive OF (after Bruce) so I'm not surprised to see him getting regular PT again. His power also seems to be back, as that OPS is essentially driven by XBH and not walks.

Ironman92
09-04-2013, 07:07 PM
Heisey is back up to a .737 OPS and is probably the Reds second-best defensive OF (after Bruce) so I'm not surprised to see him getting regular PT again. His power also seems to be back, as that OPS is essentially driven by XBH and not walks.

Yeah....but if he goes 6/6 with 3 Hr and 10 RBI, he won't be in LF tomorrow....or the next day...or the next day

VR
09-04-2013, 07:19 PM
Heisey is back up to a .737 OPS and is probably the Reds second-best defensive OF (after Bruce) so I'm not surprised to see him getting regular PT again. His power also seems to be back, as that OPS is essentially driven by XBH and not walks.

His OPS+ by month.

April 33 :laugh:
June 138
July 141
August 121
Sept 356 :eek:

I would hope he would PH and get into one of the next two games.....and HOPEFULLY start in center in the upcoming series against Ryu or Kershaw. Choo's robust .541 OPS vs. lefties shouldn't be ignored during the stretch run. That includes a .186 average and .216 slugging. O.U.C.H.

RedsBrick
09-04-2013, 07:23 PM
Would have liked to have seen Billy get the start against the right handed pitcher. I am not expecting Billy to go nuts on Miller or anything, but I don't think Heisey will do anything tonight.

I think you saw BHs role on this team for the remainder of this season last night.

Kiko
09-04-2013, 07:32 PM
With Arroyo facing the Cards and a lifetime 8-16 record against them, this is not a game I expect the Reds to win. Hopefully, they surprise me and wrap up at least a series win tonight!

Redsfan08
09-04-2013, 07:40 PM
I have all the faith in the world that Arroyo will dominate tonight.

kaldaniels
09-04-2013, 07:47 PM
Anyone else tired of the overkill amount of posts this year saying that the Cards are so much better than the Reds?

Win the next 2 and the Reds leap them in the standings.

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 08:05 PM
just win :dunno:

beer is cold, I´m not tired yet => best conditions

Magdal
09-04-2013, 08:15 PM
Anyone else tired of the overkill amount of posts this year saying that the Cards are so much better than the Reds?

Win the next 2 and the Reds leap them in the standings.I would be shocked if the Cards win another game this week!!!!!!!!

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:17 PM
I would be shocked if the Cards win another game this year!!!!!!!!

fixed it for you

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 08:17 PM
sam lecure said on twitter that he would like to see a full ballpark...

how´s the attendance`?

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:18 PM
nice start Bronson -- base hit -- first pitch DP & weak flyout

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:18 PM
sam lecure said on twitter that he would like to see a full ballpark...

how´s the attendance`?

late arriving???? :eek:

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:19 PM
ho hum -- Choo on base with walk

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:20 PM
BP rips one down the 3B line -- 2nd & 3rd no outs

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:23 PM
Votto fans -- wish he'd watched Carpenter.... ;)

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 08:23 PM
terrible swing

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 08:25 PM
Love Votto, but he's in Tom Petty mode. (Free Fallin')

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:25 PM
walk to Bruce- no way they let him beat them there

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 08:26 PM
Heisey in hero mode (yet again) rather than just taking a good cut to get a couple of runs in. Ridiculous swings. Embarassing approach.

scott91575
09-04-2013, 08:26 PM
ugly

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:26 PM
Damnit Votto, damnit Heisey.

dsmith421
09-04-2013, 08:26 PM
What an absolutely atrocious at-bat from Heisey. Swung at three pitches outside the zone and pops up with the bases loaded. Awful.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 08:26 PM
hi-c - epic fail of an at bat...

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 08:27 PM
sad

DocRed
09-04-2013, 08:27 PM
Pathetic

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:27 PM
oh the humanity -- Reds waste it

scott91575
09-04-2013, 08:27 PM
Gotta love all the swings at pitches out of the zone. Stay aggressive!

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 08:28 PM
hi-c - epic fail of an at bat...

And you're surprised? A professional hitter, he is not. And batting him fifth is insane

mbgrayson
09-04-2013, 08:28 PM
2nd and 3rd with no out= Nothin. Fail.

redsfaninbsg
09-04-2013, 08:28 PM
That inning is on Votto.

dsmith421
09-04-2013, 08:28 PM
The last eight pitches Miller threw were balls and the Reds gave him two outs.

reds700
09-04-2013, 08:28 PM
That is why the Reds are a 3rd place team.

Cedric
09-04-2013, 08:29 PM
See the ball and hit the ball Joey. Over thinking it a but lately, IMO

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:29 PM
That was one fail of an inning.

Runners at 2nd and 3rd against Shelby Miller with no outs and they manage to not score a single run.

THAT is why people say this offense sucks.

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:29 PM
It seems like Votto is becoming less clutch every week.

How in the world does our supposed best hitter strike out with no outs and guys on 2nd and 3rd? Absolutely maddening that he can't even make contact. What a joke.

OesterPoster
09-04-2013, 08:30 PM
That inning is on Votto.

At least he swung at strikes. Heisey looked like the AAAA player he is.

scott91575
09-04-2013, 08:30 PM
The last eight pitches Miller threw were balls and the Reds gave him two outs.

Gotta be aggressive man!

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:30 PM
Ridiculous swings. Embarassing approach.


sad


epic fail of an at bat...


ugly


absolutely atrocious... Awful.


Pathetic


What a joke.




Redszone took it well though.

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 08:30 PM
Why no Ludwick tonight. I cringe every time I see certain players in the lineup

redsfaninbsg
09-04-2013, 08:31 PM
At least he swung at strikes. Heisey looked like the AAAA player he is.

He did but what I expect from Votto and Heisey are two different things.

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 08:31 PM
That inning is on Votto.

he was not the only guy who didn´t get someone home ;)

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:31 PM
That was one fail of an inning.

Runners at 2nd and 3rd against Shelby Miller with no outs and they manage to not score a single run.

THAT is why people say this offense sucks.

They can certainly say it but it doesn't make it true. The Reds have scored 606 runs so far this year. The offense may not be perfectly constructed, but it most definitely does not suck.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 08:32 PM
Redszone took it well though.

why didn't you put your own quote in this?

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:33 PM
They can certainly say it but it doesn't make it true. The Reds have scored 606 runs so far this year. The offense may not be perfectly constructed, but it most definitely does not suck.It's a game thread, my man. If you're expecting perfectly reasoned responses with no emotion then you're at the wrooooooong place. :)

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:33 PM
why didn't you put your own quote in this?

Would seem too vain to quote one's self :thumbup:

dsmith421
09-04-2013, 08:34 PM
why didn't you put your own quote in this?

Only the thread Internal Affairs Bureau has jurisdiction over the thread cops.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:34 PM
Bronson dealing thru 2

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:35 PM
It's a game thread, my man. If you're expecting perfectly reasoned responses with no emotion then you're at the wrooooooong place. :)

I stopped expecting it a long time ago. I just never thought emotion and reason had to be mutually exclusive :beerme:

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:35 PM
why didn't you put your own quote in this?
Damnit, Red in Chicago.

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:36 PM
I'm not worried. The Reds are going to put these suckers in their place again tonight.

OesterPoster
09-04-2013, 08:36 PM
Crowd still looks paltry. What the heck are people doing in the Cinci metro area? I live 2+ hours away. It is just tough to get down there and back home on a weeknight for me.

reds700
09-04-2013, 08:36 PM
Reds have done well this series. Can't let an opportunity like that go by. On the positive side miller threw a bunch of pitches.

New York Red
09-04-2013, 08:36 PM
Redszone took it well though.
Why didn't you include your "Damnit Votto" post?

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:37 PM
That was a touching Extra gum commercial.

scott91575
09-04-2013, 08:37 PM
Crowd still looks paltry. What the heck are people doing in the Cinci metro area? I live 2+ hours away. It is just tough to get down there and back home on a weeknight for me.

Every year the same thing, and every year the same posts.

School is back in. Every year when that happens the weeknight attendance at Reds games drops a ton. It's the same thing every year. It has been that way my entire life no matter how good or bad the Reds are.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 08:37 PM
hi-c - epic fail of an at bat...

Heisey is Exhibit A why OPS is a composite stat that has to be viewed with care. It doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.

He has 8 walks in 212 PAs this year. His OBP was .288 coming into the game.

Heisey does have very good power. On occasion, he will have a good SLG season. That will give him a respectable OPS.

Whether that kind of player should be starting in left field and hitting fifth, well, it's a matter of taste. Some baseball folks like that kind of guy, even with the low OBP.

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:38 PM
I like this productive Cozart better than the one we saw for most of the first four months of the season.

OesterPoster
09-04-2013, 08:38 PM
I am almost afraid to look at Cozart's BABIP during this hot streak of his. Was he due for hits to start falling?

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:38 PM
Crowd still looks paltry. What the heck are people doing in the Cinci metro area? I live 2+ hours away. It is just tough to get down there and back home on a weeknight for me.
2+ hours? That's a HORRIBLE excuse! We should all be there and if we aren't we have no right to complain!

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:38 PM
Cozart should be hitting 3rd

;-)

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:39 PM
They should let Hamilton PR for Cozart.

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:40 PM
Hamilton might have scored on that hit.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:40 PM
2 on no outs -- what bad could happen?

OesterPoster
09-04-2013, 08:40 PM
Okay, bunt 'em over Bronson.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 08:40 PM
I am almost afraid to look at Cozart's BABIP during this hot streak of his. Was he due for hits to start falling?

Cozart is kind of like Heisey. Very good power for his position. But doesn't walk.

Cozart makes more contact. So there is that big distinction. And Cozart plays a premium position, and very well.

But if either of these guys learned to take a walk, it would be a much better story.

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:40 PM
Why didn't you include your "Damnit Votto" post?
I'll explain, but I feel like it won't change your mind on me. I have no problem with being disappointed, I obviously was, and that is usually expressed here by 'ugh' or similar expressions. But words like "embarrassing", "pathetic", etc, seem kind of over the top for not scoring a run in an inning.

At the end of the day though it was a joke, I found that series of posts funny. We got 8 more innings to go. Reds will get their runs. :)

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:41 PM
Arroyo is better at bunting than all of our starting lineup.

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:42 PM
Suicide squeeze would be a good idea here

Matt700wlw
09-04-2013, 08:43 PM
Run scores!

Red Buckeye
09-04-2013, 08:43 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DocRed
09-04-2013, 08:43 PM
Nice job Choo....;)

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 08:44 PM
choo comes through:thumbup:

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:44 PM
1-0 good guys

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:44 PM
Good things happen with runners in scoring position when you put the ball in play!

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:44 PM
2-0 good guys!

Matt700wlw
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
Heh.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
hanny races home

New York Red
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
Yea, baby! 2-0 good guys!

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
2-0 on the wild pitch!

This offense just gets it done. :D

OesterPoster
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
Thank you very much Cubbi...errr, Cards.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:46 PM
BP was so furious to have an RBI opportunity taken away from him that he pops up in disgust.

2-0 good guys after 2.

Brutus
09-04-2013, 08:46 PM
I'm unashamed to say I want at least four more innings like that.

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 08:49 PM
was a wild pitch but molina didn´t look good

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:50 PM
Bronson is dealing. 2 outs.

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 08:52 PM
Bronson is rolling.

Raisor
09-04-2013, 08:52 PM
Bronson is dealing.

Favorite out of context post of the evening

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:52 PM
Arroyo Ks Miller on a high strike.

Faced the minimum through 2.5, I like it.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 08:53 PM
Will be interesting to see Votto hit here. He was rather upset the first time.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:54 PM
Billy Hamilton has a voice only surpassed by Tony Gwynn in awesomeness.

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 08:54 PM
Arroyo Ks Miller on a high strike.

Faced the minimum through 2.5, I like it.

I usually like what Bronson is doing for about 5 innings. After that, all bets are off. Sometimes he continues and other times he's a gas can. Lets score lots of runs.

New York Red
09-04-2013, 08:55 PM
It'd be hard for a pitching staff to be any more dominant in a series than the Reds staff has been through the first 21 innings of this one.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 08:55 PM
Will be interesting to see Votto hit here. He was rather upset the first time.

or not :eek:

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:55 PM
I hope Joey gets it going soon. Hate to see him struggle.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:57 PM
Bruce gave it a ride, not quite enough though.

Now we get to see Heisey swing at anything they give him.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 08:57 PM
OMG he took a pitch.

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 08:59 PM
Great Goodness. Never saw a pitch he didn't like.

OesterPoster
09-04-2013, 08:59 PM
OMG he took a pitch.

His eyes were closed.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:00 PM
God, he takes some awful cuts up there.

Keep me informed, gents. I'm at my lady friend's house and for the next hour I'll be watching... Big Brother. Sigh...

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 09:01 PM
Great Goodness. Never saw a pitch he didn't like.

there it is. for some reason, i love when you say that.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:01 PM
God, he takes some awful cuts up there.

Keep me informed, gents. I'm at my lady friend's house and for the next hour I'll be watching... Big Brother. Sigh...

You may be voted off for that

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:01 PM
God, he takes some awful cuts up there.

Keep me informed, gents. I'm at my lady friend's house and for the next hour I'll be watching... Big Brother. Sigh...

Wuss :)

Just kidding. We've all been there.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 09:03 PM
hope joeys watching:p

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:03 PM
you watching Joey?

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:03 PM
there it is. for some reason, i love when you say that.

That's southern WV / middle VA talk. It was ingrained in me (or whatever that word is) :)

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:03 PM
You may be voted off for thatUnderstood... :laugh:

RedlegJake
09-04-2013, 09:04 PM
Wuss :)

Just kidding. We've all been there.

Not me. Just got a new gf. She's doing my laundry while I watch the game. Says she likes housekeeping. I feel kinda guilty. Hey, hon...can you grab me another beer? She's going home once the laundry's done. I am not kidding.

LexRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:04 PM
I too am stuck watching Big Brother. It's the only thing we can put on in our pharmacy waiting area.... CBS, FOX, NBC. Sigh...

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:04 PM
God, he takes some awful cuts up there.

Keep me informed, gents. I'm at my lady friend's house and for the next hour I'll be watching... Big Brother. Sigh...

I'm just assuming, in order for you to put up with that...she must come close to your avatar. :O)

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:05 PM
dang -- Bronson thought that was a DP

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 09:05 PM
Can Matt Carpenter fall into the endless black hole like Ozzie Smith?

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:05 PM
Wow, datdude looked slow on that one. Unfortunate.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:06 PM
Poor play by Choo there on that fly out.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:06 PM
I'll explain, but I feel like it won't change your mind on me. I have no problem with being disappointed, I obviously was, and that is usually expressed here by 'ugh' or similar expressions. But words like "embarrassing", "pathetic", etc, seem kind of over the top for not scoring a run in an inning.

At the end of the day though it was a joke, I found that series of posts funny. We got 8 more innings to go. Reds will get their runs. :)

I said Heisey's approach was embarrassing. And it was. And it's not the first time he's been like that in a similar situation.

I'd submit that the overreaction probably wasn't on my part. ;)

757690
09-04-2013, 09:06 PM
Seems like Philiips has been watching Carpenter play defense on that ball Belrean hit.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:07 PM
I'm just assuming, in order for you to put up with that...she must come close to your avatar. :O)I can neither confirm nor deny that statement. :)

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:07 PM
more bad fundamentals for this team

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:07 PM
Not me. Just got a new gf. She's doing my laundry while I watch the game. Says she likes housekeeping. I feel kinda guilty. Hey, hon...can you grab me another beer? She's going home once the laundry's done. I am not kidding.

Umm...Jake. You don't mind if I worship you from afar do you?

http://www.beergodblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/werenotworthy.png

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:07 PM
Gotta keep the damage to 2-1 here. Still can't believe that ball went through the infield.

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 09:08 PM
well crap

RedlegJake
09-04-2013, 09:09 PM
That was a really lousy toss by Votto. Tie game.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 09:09 PM
where's joey's head:laugh:

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:09 PM
Votto. A mess right now.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:09 PM
Joey --- :thumbdown:

Wonderful Monds
09-04-2013, 09:09 PM
what the hell all around

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
Can Matt Carpenter fall into the endless black hole like Ozzie Smith?Or maybe get kicked off the team for his ridiculous sideburns like Don Mattingly.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
ouch!

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
Joey, joey, joey. Craig hurt and tagged out.

kaldaniels
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
Just as Joey planned?

Too soon?

scott91575
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
What a wuss. Just rolled over on his ankle and acted like he just got shot.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
where's joey's head:laugh:

must be processing Carpenter's swing

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
That's how I broke my ankle last week. No fun

Wonderful Monds
09-04-2013, 09:11 PM
more bad fundamentals for this team

They're pretty KRISPy

malcontent
09-04-2013, 09:11 PM
where's joey's head:laugh:
We all know, but this is a family-friendly forum.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:11 PM
ouch, looked a bit paniful on the slo-mo. Comedy of errors on defense this inning. Gift run or two for sure.

kaldaniels
09-04-2013, 09:11 PM
What a wuss. Just rolled over on his ankle and acted like he just got shot.

He did look like he was sniped, I will grant you that. Lets see how serious.

OldXOhio
09-04-2013, 09:11 PM
He's been a mess for a while now. Start to wonder where his head is bc it hasn't been in the games.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
09-04-2013, 09:12 PM
That's how I broke my ankle last week. No fun

how long does a broken ankle take to heal?

kaldaniels
09-04-2013, 09:13 PM
It was a great stab by Votto. After such a play often a throw is rushed.

I'm not calling Votto a headcase on this.

scott91575
09-04-2013, 09:13 PM
He did look like he was sniped, I will grant you that. Lets see how serious.

He walked away fine under his own power.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:13 PM
He's been a mess for a while now. Start to wonder where his head is bc it hasn't been in the games.

Seems to be a DH in the making in an NL league with a small/mid franchise crippling contract over the next decade. Hoping his defensive regression is due to spring training and his slow and cautious knee recovery, but if you are Reds management you have to be concerned.

Agree - that was a tough play. good job to snare the ball.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:14 PM
Key problem that inning was Choo's throw. No reason to throw through there, it was a sac fly. Once the runner took second, there was trouble.

Votto made a bad throw but basically it was a bad decision, made trying to prevent a run. Should have just held the ball.

Matt700wlw
09-04-2013, 09:14 PM
If Jonathan Broxton were a position player, his name would be Matt Adams

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:14 PM
What a wuss. Just rolled over on his ankle and acted like he just got shot.

He rolled it the wrong way though. I've rolled mine dozens of times, but it always rolls towards the other leg. That went out. OUCH.

Matt700wlw
09-04-2013, 09:16 PM
The replay on Craig made my ankle hurt

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 09:16 PM
such a wellpitched game but few mistakes and some struggles with men on base and it is tied again :-(

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:17 PM
He rolled it the wrong way though. I've rolled mine dozens of times, but it always rolls towards the other leg. That went out. OUCH.

Fortunately for the Cardinals they practive alternative medicine. He'll be back and better than ever by tomorrow morning :D

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:19 PM
Choo's throw is still baffling. Cards are too dangerous to give out free run(s).

On the bright side, Joey did look like AJ Green on the catch of Choo's 15 ft high throw.

Wonderful Monds
09-04-2013, 09:19 PM
Fortunately for the Cardinals they practive alternative medicine. He'll be back and better than ever by tomorrow morning :D

With twice the ankles


He will have four ankles.

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:19 PM
how long does a broken ankle take to heal?Sprain 2 to 4 weeks, a BREAK....months.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:20 PM
Chris Capuano to pitch Friday for the Dodgers. Instead of Ryu. (In Cincy.)

Important news, potentially.

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:20 PM
With twice the ankles


He will have four ankles.

Can you help my kids with math? :O)

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:22 PM
Chris Capuano to pitch Friday for the Dodgers. Instead of Ryu. (In Cincy.)

Important news, potentially.

I like avoiding the lefty in that one, but he pitched a dandy against the Reds the last time they hooked up.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:22 PM
Bronson annoyed with himself for not running full tilt. Might have beaten out the bunt. Second and third, two down, for Choo.

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:22 PM
Okay Choo....time to make up for that throw.

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:23 PM
Miller is going to give up a big inning soon...I can feel it

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Okay Choo....time to make up for that throw.Nah...he may wear the horns tonite if the Cards win.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:25 PM
weak groundout. 2-2 into the 5th...

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Miller at 73 pitches through four innings.

krm1580
09-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Damn, why can't Matt Adams throw the ball into the dugout?

Gizmo
09-04-2013, 09:26 PM
Miller is going to give up a big inning soon...I can feel it

It better happen soon, he's not going to be around to do it later.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:26 PM
I like avoiding the lefty in that one, but he pitched a dandy against the Reds the last time they hooked up.Capuano is a lefty too...

50YrRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:29 PM
weak groundout. 2-2 into the 5th...

I hope that 1st inning fail doesn't come back to haunt..

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:32 PM
Arroyo's tough tonight. Has his location working.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:32 PM
great bounce back inning for Arroyo after a frustrating top and bottom of the 4th. Criminal this is a 2-2 game.

RedlegJake
09-04-2013, 09:32 PM
Bronson deserves better tonight...both support and defense

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:33 PM
Capuano is a lefty too...

Oops. :p

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 09:34 PM
DatDude! :jump:

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:34 PM
:jump: BPHIL!

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:35 PM
BP gets his 100 RBIs.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:35 PM
BOOM.

BP with a bomb.

3-2 Redlegs. :beerme:

RedlegJake
09-04-2013, 09:35 PM
BP!!

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:35 PM
#100 in a clutch time -- sweet

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:35 PM
Now, that's getting your 100th RBI in style. :beerme:

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:35 PM
was Joey watching?

:D

Gizmo
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
Not bad for a 2 hole hitter.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
Nice. Literally step away for 15 seconds and missed the bomb.

Matt700wlw
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
Brandon Phillips and Joe Morgan

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
Getting your 100th RBI by homering against your arch rival in a tie game?

Poetry, sweet sweet poetry.

Todd Gack
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
Who cares if BP got an RBI there?

kaldaniels
09-04-2013, 09:36 PM
So are all solo home runs created equal?

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 09:37 PM
Marty sounds like a proud father talking about BP's 100 RBI's. And he seems to think Freddie Freeman is having an MVP season.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:37 PM
Votto continues to slump, K.

Pirates leading 1-0 early.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:37 PM
swap Cozart & Votto!

:)

Gizmo
09-04-2013, 09:37 PM
meanwhile in votto's world, another K

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 09:38 PM
congrats to phillips!

Big Klu
09-04-2013, 09:38 PM
Congratulations to Brandon Phillips, who has tied Gus Bell and Jay Bruce for 12th place on the Reds' all-time home run list, and also picks up his 100th RBI this season!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
12. Jay Bruce - 160
12. Brandon Phillips - 160
15. Joey Votto - 154
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

malcontent
09-04-2013, 09:39 PM
3-0 swing by Bruce sucked.

kaldaniels
09-04-2013, 09:39 PM
Shelby Miller just gives me a vibe that he will become another villainous Cardinal pitcher like Carpenter.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:39 PM
Someone please tell the Pirates to start sucking again.

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:39 PM
meanwhile in votto's world, another K

Pretty funny post, actually. Two down.

Reds have three off days this month. Maybe Joey gets a day off plus the off day, to get re-charged. His BA has dropped.

WVRedsFan
09-04-2013, 09:39 PM
how long does a broken ankle take to heal?

6 weeks

Todd Gack
09-04-2013, 09:41 PM
Marty sounds like a proud father talking about BP's 100 RBI's. And he seems to think Freddie Freeman is having an MVP season.

Did he sound as proud on Votto's error?

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 09:42 PM
mhm I like phillips but if he would play for another team I think I would dislike him...

his acts after a hit/rbi/hr are sometimes over the top

Roy Tucker
09-04-2013, 09:42 PM
Greetings from sect 111. Nice evening.

Go Reds!!

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:43 PM
Why is Miller batting?

malcontent
09-04-2013, 09:43 PM
Arroyo getting squeezed a bit.

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:44 PM
It better happen soon, he's not going to be around to do it later.Yes he is.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:44 PM
Unretireable.

DocRed
09-04-2013, 09:44 PM
was Joey watching?

:D

From the bench....yes.

Stray
09-04-2013, 09:44 PM
That guy can seriously hit

Red in Chicago
09-04-2013, 09:44 PM
sick of carpenter:thumbdown:

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:45 PM
That Davis guy on the Brewers who hit the Reds so well, just hit a two run homer against the Pirates.

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:46 PM
Why is Miller batting?

You've got to check your stats. Miller is batting .728 when leading off the 5th inning during a night game on the road with a 3.5 mph cross breeze blowing left to right while a soft tossing righty with a high leg kick is on the mound. Seriously, use fangraphs every once in a while. Newbies. Sheesh! :p

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:47 PM
You've got to check your stats. Miller is batting .728 when leading off the 5th inning during a night game on the road with a 3.5 mph cross breeze blowing left to right while a soft tossing righty with a high leg kick is on the mound. Seriously, use fangraphs every once in a while. Newbies. Sheesh! :pDynamite drop-in... those broadcasting classes have really paid off!!

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:47 PM
tie game:(

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:47 PM
That guy can seriously hitI think he has more hits than his whole team in the last 2 games

Gizmo
09-04-2013, 09:47 PM
F N A, tie game yet again

redsfaninbsg
09-04-2013, 09:47 PM
I've got a real short leash with Bronson here.

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:48 PM
You've got to check your stats. Miller is batting .728 when leading off the 5th inning during a night game on the road with a 3.5 mph cross breeze blowing left to right while a soft tossing righty with a high leg kick is on the mound. Seriously, use fangraphs every once in a while. Newbies. Sheesh! :p:)

Stray
09-04-2013, 09:48 PM
This Adams guy worries me everytime he gets in the box.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:48 PM
2 down on Holliday pop up. LOL at datdude swatting at the catch.

LeDoux
09-04-2013, 09:49 PM
Who lets Arroyo hit next inning? (assuming he makes this last out?)

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:49 PM
This slob has not had a hit in weeks

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 09:49 PM
I've got a real short leash with Bronson here.
Yep, take (hopefully) the 3 runs from Bronson against the Cardinals and be happy.

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:49 PM
You've got to check your stats. Miller is batting .728 when leading off the 5th inning during a night game on the road with a 3.5 mph cross breeze blowing left to right while a soft tossing righty with a high leg kick is on the mound. Seriously, use fangraphs every once in a while. Newbies. Sheesh! :p

Tony
LaRussa
drinks
to
that :beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::b eerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::bee rme::beerme::beerme::beerme:

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2013, 09:49 PM
Good dig there by Votto.

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:49 PM
Votto giveth, Votto taketh

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:50 PM
Nice snag by Joey. Reds up next.

redsfaninbsg
09-04-2013, 09:50 PM
Good job Arroyo. Turn this over to the pen.

Brutus
09-04-2013, 09:51 PM
In some good news, the 'Crew took a 2-1 lead on the snitches of the sea.

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:51 PM
If nobody gets on this half inning...I let Bronson go one more. If his spot comes up...PH.

tomnuetten
09-04-2013, 09:52 PM
good job by votto there...

where is his head lately :D

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:52 PM
Good start there by Todd. Sharp single back up the box.

Tom Servo
09-04-2013, 09:53 PM
Frazier is picking a pretty good time to show signs of life at the plate.

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:53 PM
Another atem' ball. :(

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:54 PM
Man Cozart drilled that ball. unlucky

Magdal
09-04-2013, 09:54 PM
It's a miracle that Miller has only had 3 runs scored on him, yet Matheny KEEPS him in there e with a good pen sitting!

_Sir_Charles_
09-04-2013, 09:54 PM
Duke warming.

I'm not sure who makes me more nervous. Duke or Parra. Parra is slowly working his way off my "worry" list.

Red Raindog
09-04-2013, 09:54 PM
Duke is warming?

watch out fingernails....

Kc61
09-04-2013, 09:54 PM
Duke is warming. With a man on base, I'm guessing Bronson is out unless Hanigan hits into a twin killing.

Matt700wlw
09-04-2013, 09:55 PM
Zack Duke warming in bullpen

LeDoux
09-04-2013, 09:55 PM
If nobody gets on this half inning...I let Bronson go one more. If his spot comes up...PH.

Not I. I cash out now either way.

The Operator
09-04-2013, 09:56 PM
Bronson staying in in this situation? eh...

oregonred
09-04-2013, 09:56 PM
Zack Duke warming in bullpen

Where art thou Mr. Marshall