NCAA and Oklahoma State

[Todd Gack]

Can the NCAA just get their 'investigation' over with in the next week or two like they did with Cam Newton and Manziel already?

[WVRed]

The fun part about Oklahoma State is that they aren't the only team implicated. LSU and West Virginia will have to likely face questions given Les Miles and Joe DeForest's involvement.

But if we want to talk about NCAA corruption, how about the five players named from the SEC today? One of which could lead to one of the linchpins of the Alabama offensive line being ruled ineligible for two national championships?

[WVRed]

The fun part about Oklahoma State is that they aren't the only team implicated. LSU and West Virginia will have to likely face questions given Les Miles and Joe DeForest's involvement.

But if we want to talk about NCAA corruption, how about the five players named from the SEC today? One of which could lead to one of the linchpins of the Alabama offensive line being ruled ineligible for two national championships?

[Stray]

A lot of the people interviewed are saying their words were twisted, didn't know they were being interviewed, or just didn't say what SI is saying they said. Anytime Thayer Evans is involved in a story like this I find it really hard to take it seriously.

[jojo]

Can the NCAA just get their 'investigation' over with in the next week or two like they did with Cam Newton and Manziel already?

The NCAA spent over thirteen months looking at various aspects of Newton's recruitment.

SI has apparently spent over a year on their OKST expose and so far, it's looking like a vintage Wendy's commercial concerning the beef. Actually it's kind of worse given how the story is reflecting on SI.

[bucksfan2]

There isn't a program in the nation that is squeaky clean. The problem the NCAA has is it needs evidence in order to act. I think everyone and their brother knows that Manziel took money for autographs. The problem the NCAA has is they don't have a paper trail. They don't have evidence that money changed hands. If Manziel was discreetly paid cash they don't have any way of finding against A&M.

This is pretty damning against Oklahoma State. I don't know what the NCAA is going to do or if they have any recourse. Its always funny when a damning story comes out that people say their words were twisted or that they were confused.

[Stray]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Prominent_SI_source_denies_allegations_The_truth_w ill/20130911_231_0_Former959858?subj=298

And then there's this article he wrote in the past that should tell you how objective the man is able to be when talking about Oklahoma State.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/fiesta-bowl-oklahoma-state-cowboys-defeat-stanford-cardinal-overtime-narrow-victory-shows-this-is-where-team-belongs-010212

Oh and for good measure, Whitlock chiming in because I found this read funny.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/Jason_Whitlock_slams_SI_writer_Thayer_Evans/11-22173


Obviously I have no rooting interest in OK State, I don't care one way or the other, but there's a lot of questions about how these interviews went down that should be addressed. Doesn't mean Oklahoma State is clean, but considering who was doing the interviews I can't believe any of it. Which sucks, because I'm sure there is some truth somewhere here. Coming from SI this is very weak, the Deadspin boys could have done twice the job in half of the time.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Wow once again Charles Robinson and Yahoo showing George Dorhmann and SI how it's done. Robinson has receipts, text messages and screen shots. Dorhmann has he said and I saw and partnered with a hack with an adgenda against the subject matter.

[jojo]

Wow once again Charles Robinson and Yahoo showing George Dorhmann and SI how it's done. Robinson has receipts, text messages and screen shots. Dorhmann has he said and I saw and partnered with a hack with an adgenda against the subject matter.

Yes. Yahoo really smoked SI this week.... talk about stealing thunder.

[bucksfan2]

Wow once again Charles Robinson and Yahoo showing George Dorhmann and SI how it's done. Robinson has receipts, text messages and screen shots. Dorhmann has he said and I saw and partnered with a hack with an adgenda against the subject matter.

If the name Charles Robinson comes up in association with your college you are in serious trouble.

[RedFanAlways1966]

There isn't a program in the nation that is squeaky clean. The problem the NCAA has is it needs evidence in order to act. I think everyone and their brother knows that Manziel took money for autographs. The problem the NCAA has is they don't have a paper trail. They don't have evidence that money changed hands. If Manziel was discreetly paid cash they don't have any way of finding against A&M.


They oughta get the IRS involved and let them pressure little Johnny Football about that tax-free money. Seems the IRS has their ways lol.

[dougdirt]

They oughta get the IRS involved and let them pressure little Johnny Football about that tax-free money. Seems the IRS has their ways lol.

Manziel is rich. They wouldn't be able to find a thing.

[BluegrassRedleg]

When the name Charles Robinson pops up around your school, you should be terrified. Guy is an investigative machine.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Ha. Bucksfan2, I posted that same thing after seeing his name pop up initially. So true!

[Stray]

Now Deadspin and ESPN have jumped in to debunk some of these accusations being reported by SI. This looks terrible for Sports Illustrated.

[jojo]

Anyone else find the academic dishonesty expose to be really lacking in actual evidence and the latest installment of drug abuse to be shockingly lacking in actual drugs.

The sex story had better have more going for it than football players find attractive college-aged girls attractive.

[Chip R]

Now Deadspin and ESPN have jumped in to debunk some of these accusations being reported by SI. This looks terrible for Sports Illustrated.

Well, there's probably going to be an investigation of the Okie St. program now so they will probably find some violations and Thayer Evans gets what he wants.

[Stray]

Well, there's probably going to be an investigation of the Okie St. program now so they will probably find some violations and Thayer Evans gets what he wants.

I dunno, a lotta cash may or may not have been slipped into someone's pockets. Hard to find a paper trail there, and if SI couldn't get it in 10 months idk what's actually there. It feels to me like a guy with an agenda convinced SI that there was something there when there may not have been.

If they're looking for easy classes for athletes and pot, well go to any college anywhere. Doesn't take an investigation to figure that out lol.

SI decided to drag this out into a five part release. In hindsight they're probably regretting that decision. Not only have they been overshadowed by a competent Yahoo investigation with substance, the focus isn't really even on OK State anymore with the public, it's on the investigation itself.

[Chip R]

I dunno, a lotta cash may or may not have been slipped into someone's pockets. Hard to find a paper trail there, and if SI couldn't get it in 10 months idk what's actually there. It feels to me like a guy with an agenda convinced SI that there was something there when there may not have been.

If they're looking for easy classes for athletes and pot, well go to any college anywhere. Doesn't take an investigation to figure that out lol.

SI decided to drag this out into a five part release. In hindsight they're probably regretting that decision. Not only have they been overshadowed by a competent Yahoo investigation with substance, the focus isn't really even on OK State anymore with the public, it's on the investigation itself.

Well, I don't think Okie St. has clean hands in all this. Like you said, you put most any program under the microscope and you are going to find something. But, sure as shooting, there's going to be an NCAA investigation now and they usually find something. Okie St. goes on probation and OU reaps the benefits.