View Full Version : 15 most unethical NCAA football programs in history
No big surprises really...
http://athlonsports.com/college-football/15-unethical-college-football-programs
KronoRed
09-13-2013, 01:46 AM
Wow, so many more worthy candidates missing and errors in fact, kind of funny.
RedTeamGo!
09-13-2013, 08:15 AM
I do not think OSU is innocent, but this article considers them one of the most unethical program in NCAA history because of one incident?
OK....
Red Buckeye
09-13-2013, 08:31 AM
I counted at least 5 programs that somehow got left off this list. A rather strange list indeed! Not to be taken seriously!
How the heck did this guy forget about Oregon?
Red Buckeye
09-13-2013, 08:33 AM
I do not think OSU is innocent, but this article considers them one of the most unethical program in NCAA history because of one incident?
OK....
Well you know any hate list can't be complete without OSU, even if there are a bunch of programs that have committed far worse crimes that convienantly get left off this list:laugh:
Well you know any hate list can't be complete without OSU, even if there are a bunch of programs that have committed far worse crimes that convienantly get left off this list:laugh:
Why is this a hate list?
Yachtzee
09-13-2013, 09:32 AM
Why is this a hate list?
It's not. It's just a poorly researched one. I think if the author had done his homework, there would be more programs from the late '70s to the late '80s on the list. Not only did you have booster making payments to players, but you had players making it to the NFL who were functionally illiterate. In addition to players getting improper benefits from boosters, they were also allowed to cheat and sometimes even given university provided tutors who facilitated the cheating.
It's not. It's just a poorly researched one. I think if the author had done his homework, there would be more programs from the late '70s to the late '80s on the list. Not only did you have booster making payments to players, but you had players making it to the NFL who were functionally illiterate. In addition to players getting improper benefits from boosters, they were also allowed to cheat and sometimes even given university provided tutors who facilitated the cheating.
I agree it's superficial. But I get the sense that the author was born in the 90's and he picked some of the most visible examples fom each conference.
Chip R
09-13-2013, 09:54 AM
It's not. It's just a poorly researched one. I think if the author had done his homework, there would be more programs from the late '70s to the late '80s on the list. Not only did you have booster making payments to players, but you had players making it to the NFL who were functionally illiterate. In addition to players getting improper benefits from boosters, they were also allowed to cheat and sometimes even given university provided tutors who facilitated the cheating.
Agreed. Although I think such a list is pointless, I wonder, if one would do some research, you should take into account things that happened over 30 years ago. It seemed back in the 50s and 60s - and probably even further back than that - a lot of schools gave extra benefits to football players. Since it appeared that everybody did it, would that count against a school? Also, a lot of what happened was anecdotal. You'll hear some player from back in the 50s say that he got cars and cash from boosters and when he was recruited, other schools offered him extra stuff but the school(s) was never investigated much less put on probation. Grade fixing has been going on since the beginning. Some schools just don't get caught.
RedTeamGo!
09-13-2013, 10:14 AM
I agree it's superficial. But I get the sense that the author was born in the 90's and he picked some of the most visible examples fom each conference.
In other words: a bogus list
RedTeamGo!
09-13-2013, 10:15 AM
Agreed. Although I think such a list is pointless, I wonder, if one would do some research, you should take into account things that happened over 30 years ago. It seemed back in the 50s and 60s - and probably even further back than that - a lot of schools gave extra benefits to football players. Since it appeared that everybody did it, would that count against a school? Also, a lot of what happened was anecdotal. You'll hear some player from back in the 50s say that he got cars and cash from boosters and when he was recruited, other schools offered him extra stuff but the school(s) was never investigated much less put on probation. Grade fixing has been going on since the beginning. Some schools just don't get caught.
There is also that unethical practice from back in the day of not playing african american players
In other words: a bogus list
Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?
cumberlandreds
09-13-2013, 10:36 AM
Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?
Auburn?
Auburn?
Auburn isn't on the list. Who is that shouldn't be?
cumberlandreds
09-13-2013, 10:44 AM
Auburn isn't on the list. Who is that shouldn't be?
You could put any 15 major colleges of your choice on that list and you wouldn't be wrong. They all cheat a certain amount. It's just one of those articles to get clicks.
RedTeamGo!
09-13-2013, 10:46 AM
Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?
My point is that the person that compiled this list cited 1 example for most of these programs. It's lazy.
Personally, my top would be SMU, PSU, USC, and Bama. I doubt anyone could convincingly argue against those picks.
Chip R
09-13-2013, 11:36 AM
There is also that unethical practice from back in the day of not playing african american players
Sure. But if you are going to go there, pretty much every non-HBUC school is going to be on that list.
RedTeamGo!
09-13-2013, 01:17 PM
Sure. But if you are going to go there, pretty much every non-HBUC school is going to be on that list.
Yes, but some programs held on longer than others, correct?
marcshoe
09-13-2013, 01:28 PM
Boise State should be on the list based solely on the color of their turf.
j/k (sort of)
Redsfaithful
09-13-2013, 01:59 PM
I think some people enjoy this sort of thing more than they actually enjoy college football, which I will never understand.
Chip R
09-13-2013, 02:20 PM
Yes, but some programs held on longer than others, correct?
True again but then the list is still mighty long with pretty much every school below the Mason Dixon line "holding on." It's also more of an indictment of the universities not admitting African Americans until the mid 60s than the programs denying them the opportunity to play. After all, you can't play someone who isn't admitted to your school. Even schools that had African Americans playing more than likely had quotas on how many could play at one time and what positions they could play.
cumberlandreds
09-13-2013, 02:46 PM
Boise State should be on the list based solely on the color of their turf.
j/k (sort of)
First time I ever saw that field on TV I thought something was wrong with my TV. I started trying to adjust the color and everything until I figgered it out. It was actual color of the field. :laugh:
Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?
I'm not convinced players using illegal handicap parking stickers should have landed UCLA on the list. Did UCLA try to cover it up or something?
Todd Gack
09-14-2013, 12:14 PM
Who is on the list tht shouldn't be?
Pretty much every top tier college football program.
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