9/24/13 - Redlegs vs. Metropolitans

[LexRedsFan]

Choo CF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Ludwick LF
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Cozart SS
Mesoraco C
Leake P

[cumberlandreds]

Good to see Mes back in there. Wish Bruce would be in the 4 spot. Ludwick's swing is still off. He had a number of meatballs to hit off Harang last night and was late on every one of them.

[cumberlandreds]

Meet the Mets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfz7gW2Wf3I

1. Eric Young (S) LF
2. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B
3. David Wright (R) 3B
4. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
5. Juan Lagares (R) CF
6. Mike Baxter (L) RF
7. Travis d'Arnaud (R) C
8. Wilfredo Tovar (R) SS
9. Jon Niese (L) P

[Kc61]

Jonathan Niese is a pretty good lefty who this year has been tougher against lefties than righties. Over this career, the gap is narrower, still better against lefties.

This year he has had trouble away from Citifield (.846 away OPS against) and has not had a good September so far in four outings.

Reds have very few at bats against him, Phillips with 16 official at bats and a 1.188 OPS. Votto .792 OPS in 12 at bats (four walks), Bruce .833 in 10. Reds hitters combined have an .812 OPS against him, including five homers, in a total of 80 official at bats (excludes pitchers).

[Stray]

Would love to see ludwick get a few big hits and some positive momentum before the playoffs start. His bat is needed in our lineup...even if he doesn't have all of his power back.

[Puffy]

Good lineup for lefty. Tomorrow I go:

Hamilton CF
Choo LF
Votto 1B
Bruce RF
Phillips 2B
Frazier 3B
Cozart SS
Rocco/Hanigan (depending on who is pitching)

[Redsfansince72]

why cant Dusty say "Hey Ryan,, your not getting it done, Billy is playing" HMM?? is that so hard to do or hurting his feelings?

[Kc61]

why cant Dusty say "Hey Ryan,, your not getting it done, Billy is playing" HMM?? is that so hard to do or hurting his feelings?

Because Ludwick is a power hitter who adds a lot if he hits.

He's missed time and the Reds want to give him a chance to get going. Especially against a lefty.

Tomorrow Lud will sit. This will cause 350 posts on RedsZone. But Dusty usually rests Ludwick every series and did most of last season too.

[Chip R]

why cant Dusty say "Hey Ryan,, your not getting it done, Billy is playing" HMM?? is that so hard to do or hurting his feelings?

"But, Skip, I was 3-5 on Friday night and 2-3 on Saturday. Just because I had a lousy night last night doesn't mean i'm not 'getting it done.'"

[Puffy]

"But, Skip, I was 3-5 on Friday night and 2-3 on Saturday. Just because I had a lousy night last night doesn't mean i'm not 'getting it done.'"

Come on Chip - yes it does. Last night is all that matters! What have you done for me lately? And by lately I mean yesterday and yesterday only.....

[Gallen5862]

Tonights game is the free game of the day on mlb.com.

[BluegrassRedleg]

No bow ties?!?!?!

[Matt700wlw]

No bow ties?!?!?!

It's serious time now

[Kc61]

Young singles, then a fly out.

Wright up, first inning.

Young steals second, high throw.

Full count on Wright.

[Matt700wlw]

47 steals for Eric Young.

Billy Hamilton won't catch him ;)

[Tom Servo]

It's not as fun to have bases stolen against you.

[Kc61]

Single for Wright, first and third. One out, first inning.

[Gallen5862]

Its blacked out for me for some reason. I can get the audio.

[Tom Servo]

Duda K's.

[Kc61]

Duda Ks on a half swing.

[Kc61]

This umpire appears pitcher friendly so far.

[Tom Servo]

Leake escapes.

[Matt700wlw]

Camptown Races sing this song... Duda, Duda

[757690]

47 steals for Eric Young.

Billy Hamilton won't catch him ;)

The night is young.

[Kc61]

Choo singles.

[Kc61]

Phillips singles.

[Matt700wlw]

Choolips

[Kc61]

Votto up, falls behind 0-2. Now 2-2.

K looking.

[Stray]

Not sure what he was waiting on there

[OC_Red]

Not sure what he was waiting on there

Godot?

[Kc61]

Everyone's hero Ludwick is now up. Two on, hit, out at home.

[Falcon7]

2 good pitches to hit, in a hole early. Begging for the walk... again...strike 3 looking.

[Stray]

That was a perfect throw

[BluegrassRedleg]

Heck of a throw there. Hat tip.

[dsmith421]

Sometimes I question whether Mark Berry has ever watched anyone on this team run.

[Kc61]

Choo thrown out at home, not close. Mets announcers say Berry was trying to hold him.

Mets CF Lageras has a very good arm.

Catcher blocked the plate.

1-2 on Bruce.

[RedlegJake]

Choo out at the plate...gwine to run all night...but that arm made him look like de bobtail nag

[WVRedsFan]

Who captured Joey Votto and placed this guy in his place?

[Kc61]

Bruce fans looking.

Ok, both teams threaten and fail. Remain calm.

[KittyDuran]

My POV...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/25/jupenyhy.jpg

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds figure out a way not to score after getting 3 hits....now they won't get another hit until the 8th inning. Amazing

[BCubb2003]

Choo out at the plate...gwine to run all night...but that arm made him look like de bobtail nag

Base paths felt like five miles long.

[Falcon7]

Jay wanting to be just like JV, K looking right down the middle...

[Kc61]

I still think they should re-write the rules/interpretations about catchers blocking the plate.

It's just absurd to allow fielders to prevent access before they have the ball.

Probably didn't matter there.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Sometimes I question whether Mark Berry has ever watched anyone on this team run.

I still prefer to play it aggressive and make them come up with the field, throw, catch and tag.

[Brutus]

Sometimes I question whether Mark Berry has ever watched anyone on this team run.

It took a perfect throw there in order to get Choo at home. That's no one's fault. Just tip your cap to the CF for a great throw.

[PuffyPig]

Choo thrown out at home, not close. Mets announcers say Berry was trying to hold him.

Mets CF Lageras has a very good arm.

Catcher blocked the plate.

1-2 on Bruce.

Mets announcers were wrong, Berry was windmilling his arms.

The choice to run was fine, throw was perfect.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Hard to believe Rijo isn't on that consecutive scoreless streak list for the Reds. Could have sworn he had a 20+ in his heydey.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Bruce to Choo: "Did you see that?" LOL

[Kc61]

Choo was out by quite a bit, so he should have been held up in retrospect.

Still a bad throw and he scores.

Mess up by Bruce in RF, man on second for the Mets. They give Baxter a double.

[Falcon7]

A lot of top spin on that ball.

[WVRedsFan]

Leake apparently doesn't have it tonight

[RedlegJake]

That wasn't Bruce's fault - just a weirdly spinning ball

[50YrRedsFan]

Leake apparently doesn't have it tonight

The hits haven't been hard hit....just found holes

[PuffyPig]

Leake apparently doesn't have it tonight

Shouldn't we wait until he's given up his first run in 21 or so innings before we say that?

[Kc61]

The hits haven't been hard hit....just found holes

I thought that last double by Baxter was a well hit ball.

Strike three, K by Leake.

[Brutus]

Leake apparently doesn't have it tonight

How do you figure? He's actually looked pretty good IMHO.

[50YrRedsFan]

Leake with a nice tailing fastball back into the zone.

[WVRedsFan]

How do you figure? He's actually looked pretty good IMHO.

At 35 pitches in the second, he's struggling and now they score. Not a criticism, just an observation.

[50YrRedsFan]

Choo took about three or four steps before throwing the ball.

[RedlegJake]

Terrible setup by Choo

[757690]

Leake thought about grabbing that bouncer up the middle, but decided to let it go through. Should have tried for it.

[Kc61]

Reds don't look sharp so far tonight. Now a hit by the pitcher, man gunned down by Bruce at home.

This game could be kind of wild.

[Brutus]

At 35 pitches in the second, he's struggling and now they score. Not a criticism, just an observation.

Most of the hits have been soft liners, bloopers and soft grounders.

edit: well now the last two hits have been hit hard

[757690]

Bruce shows Choo how to do it.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Thing of beauty there. What a throw by Bruce. :beerme:

[PuffyPig]

At 35 pitches in the second, he's struggling and now they score. Not a criticism, just an observation.

Saying a "pitcher doesn't have it" based on a few base hits in a game as random as baseball makes little sense.

He wouldn't be the first pitcher who gives up a few early hits (and even a run) who goes on and has a decent game.

[RedlegJake]

Bruce shows how its done

[Tom Servo]

Leake kinda sucks tonight.

[Kc61]

Ok, now Leake is looking pretty shaky.

Price coming out.

Second and third, ground rule double saves the run.

[WVRedsFan]

Leake kinda sucks tonight.

Be careful, Tom. :)

[Matt700wlw]

Leake isn't fooling anyone

[malcontent]

Terrible setup by Choo
I've seen him do that before.

[Norm Chortleton]

I doubt Price is visiting to tell him "you've got it, keep it up."

[RedlegJake]

Leake is getting hammered and it's not just bloops and dinks

[50YrRedsFan]

Saying a "pitcher doesn't have it" based on a few base hits in a game as random as baseball makes little sense.

He wouldn't be the first pitcher who gives up a few early hits (and even a run) who goes on and has a decent game.

Let's hope he can. Young's 2b was smoked.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Geez, this looks like batting practice early vs. Leake. Gotta find a way to survive 3 more innings. Can't kill the bullpen vs. the Mets.

[Kc61]

Mets being very aggressive against Leake. Mets with six hits in first ten batters.

[PuffyPig]

Leake kinda sucks tonight.

That was a hard hit ball.

But they are 6/8 on balls hit into play.

[Brutus]

Be careful, Tom. :)

He was doing fine when you first said it.

Only the last two batters have hit the ball hard.

[dsmith421]

That was a hard hit ball.

But they are 6/8 on balls hit into play.

Heh, this is the kind of stuff that makes the BABIP worshippers a bit hard to take seriously. Eight at-bats? With almost every one being a line drive? Yeah, six hits is more than possible.

[Brutus]

Leake is getting hammered and it's not just bloops and dinks

Prior to the last two hits, it was bloops and dinks.

The ball to right was a soft liner with a funny spin. The hit up the middle by Wright was a broken bat blooper. The run-scoring single was a soft groundball up the middle.

[50YrRedsFan]

It' almost like the hitters know what pitch is coming.

[RedlegJake]

Prior to the last two hits, it was bloops and dinks.

The ball to right was a soft liner with a funny spin. The hit up the middle by Wright was a broken bat blooper. The run-scoring single was a soft groundball up the middle.

That was some dink

[Tom Servo]

Uggggggggggggggggggh

[Red Raindog]

now it is official -- Leake not sharp tonight

[Matt700wlw]

Nope. He's not on the playoff roster

[WVRedsFan]

Well, that didn't go well. 51 pitches and 4 runs.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Whoever claimed yesterday that Leake was being shunned for playoff rotation, here's a reminder of why.

[wheels]

Well.....At least I can find other things to do tonight.

[RedlegJake]

LOL...another hit. Getting ridiculous now

[Tom Servo]

Leake leaked the bed.

[Falcon7]

Prior to the last two hits, it was bloops and dinks.

The ball to right was a soft liner with a funny spin. The hit up the middle by Wright was a broken bat blooper. The run-scoring single was a soft groundball up the middle.

The ball that got by JB was hit good with a lot of top spin. And the HR was hit pretty well...

[malcontent]

9 of the 10 pitches to Murphy were either cutters or sinkers. One slider.

[RedlegJake]

I like Mike Leake....but when he is bad, he doesn't mess with halfway

[dsmith421]

Well done, Mike. You won't be needed for the rest of the season.

[Tom Servo]

9 of the 10 pitches to Murphy were either cutters or sinkers. One slider.
There was definitely a curveball in there.

[WVRedsFan]

I guess he didn't have it after all. Regardless, now the bullpen gets abused starting with Zach Duke.

[Stray]

This game is taking forever

[1940757690]

Wow! What is up with Leake?!?! 3-2 count with 1B open and he throws a meatball right over the plate? What? How?

Now I know how the Bucs fans all around me at PNC felt when we knocked Locke around for 5 in the first two innings Sunday.

Good he's being pulled but can our bats get this back? I sure hope so. Credit to Dusty for pulling him though. Right answer.

[Degenerate39]

Anyone want to do an over/under for when FCB pops in here?

[BuckeyeRedleg]

9 of the 10 pitches to Murphy were either cutters or sinkers. One slider.

At one point while watching that AB I thought just walk him. Two outs. Base open. He was totally locked on him that it would have taken a perfect pitch.

[Tom Servo]

I guess he didn't have it after all. Regardless, now the bullpen gets abused starting with Zach Duke.
Call me an optimist but I think the bullpen can keep the Mets in check. They're not very good, Leake was just throwing batting practice.

[Kc61]

Only on RedsZone can we now debate if Leake had it tonight. Allowed four runs, eight hits, in 1 2/3 innings.

I say we limit the debate to 5 or 6 pages.

Reds can still win this game, although the pen will be used heavily. May see Reynolds or Simon for long stints.

Too bad.

[PuffyPig]

I assume Reynolds can eat up lots of innings if required.

[reds44]

Feel bad for Leake. Probably just pitched himself out of the playoff rotation.

[757690]

I wonder how long it will take JoJo to appear to tell us that Leake's not very good ;)

[RedsFanInMD]

So for the one game playoff against the Pirates, Homer gets the start, right?

[New York Red]

He was doing fine when you first said it.

Only the last two batters have hit the ball hard.
At no point in these two innings was Leake "doing fine".

[PuffyPig]

Wow! What is up with Leake?!?! 3-2 count with 1B open and he throws a meatball right over the plate? What? How?



Wright was on deck.

He didn't try to throw it down the middle.

[RedlegJake]

Duked Duda.

[Tom Servo]

Inning over. Reds gotta put runs on the board, I think the pen can keep the Mets in check.

[50YrRedsFan]

With Duke coming in, I don't give the Reds much chance to win. Yeah, it's early, but I just don't see Duke, Christiani, or any other mop up guy keep the Mets from adding on.

[Larkin Fan]

Cool, it's already 4-0. We're doing good. Oh, wait a minute. Nevermind.

[Kc61]

Wright was on deck.

He didn't try to throw it down the middle.

Because Wright was on deck, maybe he did try to throw it down the middle.

[PuffyPig]

So for the one game playoff against the Pirates, Homer gets the start, right?

Latos is scheduled. Homer will pitch Friday.

[Brutus]

That was some dink

That doesn't have anything to do with the first 3-4 hits that were not hit very hard.

It's pretty silly that people are trying to use the last few hits being stung to justify a faulty observation when it was made. And it's kind of bizarre people are actually liking comments that seem to be bragging about his performance, or lackthereof.

Yeah, no doubt he fell apart. The last four hits were stung pretty good. Up to that point, he was doing fine.

[Norm Chortleton]

Feel bad for Leake. Probably just pitched himself out of the playoff rotation.

Latos
Bailey
Arroyo
Cueto

I don't think Leake ever had a chance in the world of being in the rotation unless someone got hurt.

[Tom Servo]

At no point in these two innings was Leake "doing fine".
Leake's game is very contact oriented and he gives up hits, so the first few were no big deal, certainly something he could recover from. The smoked double by EY and the HR by Murphy, not so much.

[PuffyPig]

With Duke coming in, I don't give the Reds much chance to win. Yeah, it's early, but I just don't see Duke, Christiani, or any other mop up guy keep the Mets from adding on.

Duke likely just in for one batter.

[Kc61]

Told you. Guy allowed 8 hits to 12 batters and now we are engaged in debate whether he had it tonight.

He didn't.

Let's go Reds, four runs is nothing for a championship team.

[1940757690]

Call me an optimist but I think the bullpen can keep the Mets in check. They're not very good, Leake was just throwing batting practice.

Is Duke part of what you're calling our capable pen? 'Cus I agree with your pen optimism generally but think Duke should have been relegated to Louisville after the last outing.

[RedlegJake]

No big deal here. Leake lives on a fine edge. When he doesn't hit spots and keep the ball down he has a bad night. When he hits the corners and paints the lower parts of the zone he's tough. Night and day. He can't power his way out of a rough night. Good guy for a long season, not a guy I want starting a playoff game, though.

[PuffyPig]

Latos
Bailey
Arroyo
Cueto

I don't think Leake ever had a chance in the world of being in the rotation unless someone got hurt.

Once Cueto proved himself healthy, that writing was on the wall. He'll still likely make the team as the long guy. Ondrusek won't.

[Brutus]

At no point in these two innings was Leake "doing fine".

Yeah you're right, getting a broken bat blooper against the Mets' best hitter, a weak groundball with one out and a nasty strikeout against D'Arnaud was evidence he was sucking.

[Kc61]

Christiani in the pen.

[Tom Servo]

No big deal here. Leake lives on a fine edge. When he doesn't hit spots and keep the ball down he has a bad night. When he hits the corners and paints the lower parts of the zone he's tough. Night and day. He can't power his way out of a rough night. Good guy for a long season, not a guy I want starting a playoff game, though.
Stop being reasonable damnit!

[New York Red]

Leake's game is very contact oriented and he gives up hits, so the first few were no big deal, certainly something he could recover from. The smoked double by EY and the HR by Murphy, not so much.
So you go from saying Leake sucks tonight, to this? :laugh:

[Tom Servo]

Frazier leadoff double.

[KittyDuran]

Feel bad for Leake. Probably just pitched himself out of the playoff rotation.

Then he'll be 3 for 3 then... I feel really awful for him. Some will say he deserves it... :(

[Kc61]

Frazier doubles to lead off the second.

[Norm Chortleton]

Once Cueto proved himself healthy, that writing was on the wall. He'll still likely make the team as the long guy. Ondrusek won't.

I'd rather have Ondrusek, actually, especially since his splitter has been very good his last two appearances.

[1940757690]

Christiani in the pen.

Whew! The thought of Duke coming out for the 2nd would have me really questioning things more than I normally do.

And, that's just the most recent example why Hannahan should almost never be started over Frazier at 3rd.

[Chip R]

Bunting time!

[Tom Servo]

So you go from saying Leake sucks tonight, to this? :laugh:
Yup, pretty linear progression. I said he kinda sucks when he gave up that double, but before that HR it had the making of a pretty typical Leake game. Give up early runs (which kinda sucks), everyone calls for his head, and then he pitches 5-6 innings of shutout ball. Unfortunately the HR put an end to that.

[vaticanplum]

Kind of enjoying the Mets TV announcers. More astute analysis of the NL Central than normally offered by anyone paid to call it every day.

[Brutus]

The Duke

[reds44]

Latos
Bailey
Arroyo
Cueto

I don't think Leake ever had a chance in the world of being in the rotation unless someone got hurt.
I don't know. I still think he might have had a shot over Cueto. Maybe not, but certainly not now.

[RedlegJake]

Heck we've been misusing Duke - he should be a pinch hitter

[Matt700wlw]

Duke with a hit :lol:

[1940757690]

Yeah! That's one run back.

[Tom Servo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNOyI9V2RfE

[BCubb2003]

Duke helps Leake's cause.

[1940757690]

Heck we've been misusing Duke - he should be a pinch hitter

Cool he got the hit but, trust me here. Watched the guy a bunch in DC in person and he ain't no pinch hitter either. Should not be on a post-season roster. Will just break hearts if he is no ifs ands or buts.

[Brutus]

Cool he got the hit but, trust me here. Watched the guy a bunch in DC in person and he ain't no pinch hitter either. Should not be on a post-season roster. Will just break hearts if he is no ifs ands or buts.

No one is arguing for him being on the postseason roster but as far as pitchers go, he's a pretty good hitter.

[RedlegJake]

Cool he got the hit but, trust me here. Watched the guy a bunch in DC in person and he ain't no pinch hitter either. Should not be on a post-season roster. Will just break hearts if he is no ifs ands or buts.

lifetime .178 hitter so he's probably a better hitter than pitcher....if that says anything about his "prowess"

[BluegrassRedleg]

I blame tonight's start on blatant disregard for Bow Tie Tuesday in FSN booth.

[armybrat45103]

I don't know. I still think he might have had a shot over Cueto. Maybe not, but certainly not now.

Baker will go with a 5 man rotation. That is a given.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Kind of enjoying the Mets TV announcers. More astute analysis of the NL Central than normally offered by anyone paid to call it every day.

Hernandez and Darling can be goofy at times, but Gary Cohen is excellent. Any time I catch the Reds on SNY, he knows more about them than Thom it seems.

[reds44]

Baker will go with a 5 man rotation. That is a given.
No he won't.

[RedlegJake]

Lagares is really irritating

[Kc61]

Dusty needs to be aggressive with the bullpen tonight. Off day Thursday, Latos tomorrow, no need to be resting people.

Reds are very much in this game, need to hold it to three runs.

Another Mets hit, that one a seeing eye grounder.

[Brutus]

Based on tonight's classification, that was stung ;)

[Tom Servo]

Not the start to the frame I wanted, hopefully Duke didn't drink lighter fluid before taking the mound this inning.

[Tom Servo]

This Mets announcer talking with EY Sr looks like he could be Todd Frazier's brother.

[Chip R]

Kind of enjoying the Mets TV announcers. More astute analysis of the NL Central than normally offered by anyone paid to call it every day.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4573570112096408&pid=15.1

[BCubb2003]

Another Mets hit, that one a seeing eye grounder.

The infield coach is getting hit hard tonight.

[Norm Chortleton]

Baker will go with a 5 man rotation. That is a given.

Uhh, no.

[Tom Servo]

For the record the Mets radio announcers, Howie Rose and Josh Lewin, are even better.

[1940757690]

lifetime .178 hitter so he's probably a better hitter than pitcher....if that says anything about his "prowess"

.178 hitters don't stay on benches. And that's before even looking at his total ABs and what he has done with runners on (forget about RISP). Not a serious debate to even entertain imho.

[armybrat45103]

Uhh, no.

Just watch.

[RedlegJake]

.178 hitters don't stay on benches. And that's before even looking at his total ABs and what he has done with runners on (forget about RISP). Not a serious debate to even entertain imho.

LOL...I am not debating the point...I was joking...more to the effect of how lousy I think he is as a pitcher than how good I think he is as a hitter

[Tom Servo]

Just watch.
Uhh, no.

[Kc61]

K for Duke. One out. Now a righty the catcher.

Dusty gambling leaving Duke in against righty hitters.

[Norm Chortleton]

Just watch.

I might just do that.

[Stray]

Mes having all kinds of issues catching the ball tonight.

[Kc61]

Ball gets by Devin, who went for a one handed catch. Passed ball. Now wild pitch.

Walk, two on, one out.

Get Duke out of there, treat this like an important game.

[Red Raindog]

now it is official -- Rocco has trouble catching a ball

:eek:

[Tom Servo]

Alright, I was hoping for a double play ball but now there's two on and one out. I'd tell Duke to hit the showers right about now.

[Norm Chortleton]

Mes having all kinds of issues catching the ball tonight.

At least he hasn't let one drill the umpire, like he did a couple of times in a game not long ago.

:laugh:

[RedlegJake]

Dusty read Redszone without his glasses...He saw the thread Wednesday's game is irrelevant and thought it said Tuesday

[1940757690]

Ball gets by Devin, who went for a one handed catch. Passed ball. Now wild pitch.

Walk, two on, one out.

Get Duke out of there, treat this like an important game.

looks like it isn't going to happen until more runs cross. a bit inexplicable.

[vaticanplum]

Mets announcer (don't know which one) just called Choo "absurdly deep". Oh dear.

[Kc61]

Ok, two outs, lefty hitting Niese up. Second and third.

C'mon Duke, just end this inning.

[Roy Tucker]

Watching Duke pitch, I'm reminded of the vast array of soft tossers and nibblers that poplated thbe aughts Reds staff.

Not a good memory.

[Stray]

With any luck we'll start the bottom of the third by 8:30

[1940757690]

Alright, I was hoping for a double play ball but now there's two on and one out. I'd tell Duke to hit the showers right about now.

you, me, everyone here and at GABP. Except the one guy whose decision matters. Sheesh.

[Tom Servo]

If Duke can't get Niese out, I'm releasing him after the game.

#nomercy

[RedlegJake]

Ludwick looked like a brontosaurus chasing that foul ball

[WVRedsFan]

Watching Duke pitch, I'm reminded of the vast array of soft tossers and nibblers that poplated thbe aughts Reds staff.

Not a good memory.

?

[1940757690]

Ok, two outs, lefty hitting Niese up. Second and third.

C'mon Duke, just end this inning.

C'mon Dusty, just hook Duke. Then what Kc says ^

[Brutus]

Good inning for Duke

[Kc61]

The Duke gets the pitcher. Still 4-1. Do some business, Reds.

[RedlegJake]

Who doubted da DUKE? He da man...

[BCubb2003]

Mets announcer (don't know which one) just called Choo "absurdly deep". Oh dear.

Last night when Choo didn't get to one in front of him, they said the Reds outfield plays the deepest they've seen.

[Tom Servo]

Watching Duke pitch, I'm reminded of the vast array of soft tossers and nibblers that poplated thbe aughts Reds staff.

Not a good memory.
I'm reminded of the fact that this dude used to regularly shut down the Reds.

[1940757690]

Good inning for Duke

Runner to 2nd and 3rd with one out isn't such a good inning. No runs scored is probably best termed a lucky inning.

[1940757690]

Wow, cool stat. JV's next time on ties Pete's 1969 mark. Very cool.

[jojo]

I wonder how long it will take JoJo to appear to tell us that Leake's not very good ;)

Longer than it'll take jojo to appear and suggest your post isn't very good.

[RedlegJake]

Next walk is a new Reds record too...tied with Morgan now I believe

[Roy Tucker]

I'm reminded of the fact that this dude used to regularly shut down the Reds.

More bad memories. Augh.

The Freddie Norman ploy. Sign the guys that pitch well against you.

[RedlegJake]

Worked pretty well with little Freddie

[Tom Servo]

Not the most inspiring of at-bats from BP and Joey.

[1940757690]

Bad baseball moment for Sept 24, 2013.

- Joey fans
- Bucs go up 1-0 at Wrigley with runners still aboard

[Brutus]

Runner to 2nd and 3rd with one out isn't such a good inning. No runs scored is probably best termed a lucky inning.

A walk with a base open, two grounders that didn't leave the infield and two strikeouts. How is that not a good inning?

[Roy Tucker]

Righties in the lineup have to get to Niese.

[wheels]

I'd love to see a Deuce from Bruce..

[1940757690]

A walk with a base open, two grounders that didn't leave the infield and two strikeouts. How is that not a good inning?

Two runners in scoring position not the result of any errors? Again, good the Mets didn't score but I don't know how you praise that inning relative to, say, keeping hitters off the bases or, at least, out of scoring position. To each his own I guess.

[Tom Servo]

I'd love to see a Deuce from Bruce..
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/081/long-neck-reaction.jpg



No deuces, just a K.

[vaticanplum]

Uh the Mets announcers love the Reds. Much more so than the Reds' own announcers. I'm not used to so much fawning.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Reds vs. LHP still an elephant in the playoff room.

[1940757690]

Bruce struck out with a RISP. I still love him.

[texasdave]

Bruce struck out with a RISP. I still love him.

Wasn't Ludwick on first?

[Brutus]

Two runners in scoring position not the result of any errors? Again, good the Mets didn't score but I don't know how you praise that inning relative to, say, keeping hitters off the bases or, at least, out of scoring position. To each his own I guess.

A passed ball is an error. Not *technically* an error, but it's an error. It's most certainly not Duke's fault Mesoraco missed it.

He gave up a very weak infield hit and walked a guy with a base open while striking out two. I'll take that inning every time because most of the time, those grounders don't go for hits.

[1940757690]

Wasn't Ludwick on first?

My mistake. Thank you.

[1940757690]

A passed ball is an error. Not *technically* an error, but it's an error.

He gave up a very weak infield hit and walked a guy with a base open while striking out two. I'll take that inning every time because most of the time, those grounders don't go for hits.

I'd make the argument that while Mes got the PB fairly, Duke did bounce it in front of him. But think we're mostly on the same page here and not a big deal.

Let's score runs.

3-0 Bucs :thumbdown:

[Rantly]

In my opinion, Votto is taking way too many strikes this year compared to other years...and that's not counting all the borderline calls he gets from the umpire because of his "good eye" reputation. Anybody else agree?

[jojo]

Wasn't Ludwick on first?

Who is on first.

[Roy Tucker]

Had to give away my tix for tonight. Starting to think it might not have been so bad.

[1940757690]

I don't care about matchups or whether Duke retires David Wright or not. Leaving him in now is a bad idea.

[Brutus]

I'd make the argument that while Mes got the PB fairly, Duke did bounce it in front of him. But think we're mostly on the same page here and not a big deal.

Let's score runs.

3-0 Bucs :thumbdown:

No, it wasn't bounced. It was a curveball that Mesoraco tried to frame before he caught it and just missed it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Duke's in the game?!? 4 runs through 4. What happened? Leake get injured?

[Tom Servo]

I don't care about matchups or whether Duke retires David Wright or not. Leaving him in now is a bad idea.
:)

[Brutus]

Good job by Dusty and good job by Duke (again).

[texasdave]

Duke is da man tonight. Good job.

[Tom Servo]

Duke's in the game?!? 4 runs through 4. What happened? Leake get injured?
Nope, he gave up 8 hits and 4 runs in 1 and 2/3s innings.

[Rantly]

I don't care about matchups or whether Duke retires David Wright or not. Leaving him in now is a bad idea.

reverse pyschology worked

[Brutus]

Duke's in the game?!? 4 runs through 4. What happened? Leake get injured?

A few hard luck hits then the wheels fell apart and started getting crushed

[Red Raindog]

Duke's in the game?!? 4 runs through 4. What happened? Leake get injured?

just a bad night

[Falcon7]

Time to get a couple or more.

[texasdave]

Duke's in the game?!? 4 runs through 4. What happened? Leake get injured?

Four runs on eight hits in an inning and two thirds. Some were dinks; some were shots.

[Brutus]

Frazier smoked that.

[1940757690]

Good job by Dusty and good job by Duke (again).

Point conceded on Duke in the top of the 4th/with Wright.

Not on the decision to pitch him. Probably a very obvious thing to say but most any player who makes it to the majors has some talent. So, even the ones who don't stick will have good moments or even days. Duke is a guy like that. He's bad most of the time. Putting it differently, he hasn't been good enough to stick on a major league roster and he sure shouldn't be on ours now or in PS.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nope, he gave up 8 hits and 4 runs in 1 and 2/3s innings.

Woah! Wow. Considering how tight our rotation is...you'd have to think this might hurt his chances for the Playoff rotation. Shame.

[wheels]

This game is either going to be a total bummer, or it's going to be one of this season's highlights.

[Brutus]

Point conceded on Duke in the top of the 4th/with Wright.

Not on the decision to pitch him. Probably a very obvious thing to say but most any player who makes it to the majors has some talent. So, even the ones who don't stick will have good moments or even days. Duke is a guy like that. He's bad most of the time. Putting it differently, he hasn't been good enough to stick on a major league roster and he sure shouldn't be on ours now or in PS.

Duke has, for his entire career, induced a lot of double plays. With 1 out and a chance at a double play, it was worth the risk facing Wright with the left-hander on deck. It was absolutely the right call IMHO.

[bob jones]

please remember game four vs giants leake has no business in a playoff rotation

[Falcon7]

A few hard luck hits then the wheels fell apart and started getting crushed

Plus our 2, 3, and 5 hitters are a bit off tonight, so far... ok BP did have a hit in the 1st.

[wheels]

Woah! Wow. Considering how tight our rotation is...you'd have to think this might hurt his chances for the Playoff rotation. Shame.

Is there an echo in here?:laugh:

Just winding you up, Sir.

[Tom Servo]

Neftali Soto will pinch strikeout for Duke.

[Brutus]

Soto is due. Hopefully he can do some damage.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is there an echo in here?:laugh:

Just winding you up, Sir.

Oh, did someone just say that? I haven't read the thread yet. Just got home from work. Currently stuffing my face with steak fajitas. *drools*

[_Sir_Charles_]

Still hitless in the bigs, right?

[wheels]

Oh, did someone just say that? I haven't read the thread yet. Just got home from work. Currently stuffing my face with steak fajitas. *drools*

Yeah...People jumped all over that as soon as he got pulled. It was hilarious.

We're all pretty much in melt down mode right now.

Hope those are lucky fajitas.

[vaticanplum]

Mets announcers pointing out that if the Red face the Dodgers in the NLCS, they'll face Kershaw in Game 1 and Ryu in Game 3, and that will be a problem in terms of left-handedness, which is why Ludwick is so important to this team. I...I don't know what to say. I want different announcers? Usually I feel like Marty is just talking to me about his intestinal troubles. Even if he never actually SAYS anything about his intestinal troubles.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart to third. Can you please get a little single somewhere, Nefty?

[_Sir_Charles_]

No reason for melt-down mode. 3 runs down at home against the Mets. We got this.

[kbrake]

Why are we leaning on bad minor league players to try and get back in this game?

[Roy Tucker]

Soto does himself no good with AB's like that.

[Brutus]

Soto isn't exactly having a record-breaking start to his LHP pinch-hitting career.

[Kc61]

Soto remains due.

[Falcon7]

It's an epidemic to just watch the 3rd strike go by tonight...

[LeDoux]

Anyone have a good Soto DDD (dating dusty's daughter) joke or quip?

[wheels]

Mets announcers pointing out that if the Red face the Dodgers in the NLCS, they'll face Kershaw in Game 1 and Ryu in Game 3, and that will be a problem in terms of left-handedness, which is why Ludwick is so important to this team. I...I don't know what to say. I want different announcers? Usually I feel like Marty is just talking to me about his intestinal troubles. Even if he never actually SAYS anything about his intestinal troubles.

Your running commentary on the Mets commentators is like that shocker thing they do to people in movies when they're dying....You're doing that to this thread is what I'm trying to say.

[Falcon7]

Soto isn't exactly having a record-breaking start to his LHP pinch-hitting career.

Or right handed.

[Roy Tucker]

Bridget twinkles ;)

[vaticanplum]

Your running commentary on the Mets commentators is like that shocker thing they do to people in movies when they're dying....You're doing that to this thread is what I'm trying to say.

I'm just so confounded I can barely follow the game. It is neutralizing the agony immensely. Which is new to me.

[Brutus]

Why are we leaning on bad minor league players to try and get back in this game?

I believe I read he had a .900 OPS against LHP in AAA. So trying to use him in these situations is not unfounded.... it's just failed miserably thus far.

[malcontent]

Kid can't take strike three on a 1-2 count with a man on 3B. He's not Votto....ain't gonna get calls, ain't gonna work his way back in the count.

But he did. I expect Baker will have him PH in Game 162 with the division on the line.

[wheels]

I'm just so confounded I can barely follow the game. It is neutralizing the agony immensely. Which is new to me.

Curse you, and your non blackout windfall of awesome.