NL WILD CARD 2013 October 1 Reds @ Pirates

[Crumbley]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice Jay! Rbi single.

[LexRedsFan]

Bruce is 0-4 on that exact pitch.

He gets a single on one that's not there. 3-1. Chipping away!

[KYRedsFan]

Bruce mans up for the rbi!

[Tom Servo]

Clutch contributions from our new big money guys there.

Now Jay just needs to K.
Sorry to disappoint.

[Todd Gack]

Gack give it up...it gets old

So does the constant defending of the man. What has Votto ever done to help this team in the playoffs? He's getting paid for AB's like that but the SABR guys say nothing.

[Red Raindog]

Jay's got this guy lined up now -- just took a while

[xsteve1]

Cmon Todd give us the lead.

[powersackers]

Still thinking a four spot here!

[oregonred]

Frazier one swing away from turning PNC into the quietest place on Earth. So Close...

[Reds Fanatic]

A long foul by Frazier.

[Tom Servo]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo

[reds44]

Damn!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Oh, man! Straighten that out just a bit Todd.

[LexRedsFan]

Damn...

[Todd Gack]

Jay, I'm not a fan of you, but I'm coming around. Good AB.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier strikes out on a pitch in the dirt. 3-1 Pirates mid 4th

[KYRedsFan]

Frazier so close then garbage

[RedsBrick]

Well, that was predictable

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dang. But we put one across. We'll get there. 3-1 Pirates.

[LexRedsFan]

We really needed that run. Makes it feel a lot better.

[dougdirt]

Jay, I'm not a fan of you, but I'm coming around. Good AB.

So you don't like Jay Bruce. You don't like Joey Votto.

Who the heck do you like on this team?

[Tom Servo]

I would literally sell my soul for the Earth to spin backwards and to see that ball hit the foul pole

[Red Swagger]

Just barely missed giving the Reds a 2 out go ahead 3 r HR, which would have been HUGE

[Cedric]

How many "playoff" teams have a black hole in the 4 spot? Weird team.

[RedlegJake]

Now its time to play ball...like the ice has been broken

[redsrule2500]

So does the constant defending of the man. What has Votto ever done to help this team in the playoffs? He's getting paid for AB's like that but the SABR guys say nothing.


The sample size of 1 isn't even an argument for non-SABR guys.

[M2]

Dang. But we put one across. We'll get there. 3-1 Pirates.

Exactly. The offense has five innings to get this one back.

Come on people, I know this isn't the first time you've watched a baseball game. Sometimes your team has to fight its way to victory.

[tomnuetten]

what an at bat from frazier...
:eek:

[Stray]

That was a big run...just to get something positive going. Lotta baseball left.

[Playadlc]

Cueto.

Dusty, please quit.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow. Cueto is back out there. Did anyone let Dusty know this is an elimination game

[Puffy]

This game thread tonight is proof of how much better Redszone was before it got too big. Rfs62 used to call Redszone a great place where you'd talk baseball like buddies at a bar.

Now it's become this.

gO rEdZ

[Reds Fanatic]

Liriano grounds out to 1st.

[Edskin]

In the regular season, games take so long. I will often be watching and think, "it's only the bottom of the fourth?"

But now I'm in a panic, "oh no it's already the bottom of the fourth!"

[Krawhitham]

Is Dusty brain dead?

[Roy Tucker]

OK, we've hit bottom and are bouncing back. It's a manageable game now. Liriano is hittable.

Dusty has to have Cueto on a short leash. No room for error here.

[Wonderful Monds]

Get out of the way

[Reds Fanatic]

Marte doubles down the left field line

[_Sir_Charles_]

If the choice is between Cueto and Simon...I'll take Cueto every day of the week.

[Tom Servo]

I'm pulling Johnny here.

[M2]

Cueto's fooling no one tonight.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Where the hell were those two pitches??? #%@#^%# That should have been 0-2, Marte's got a double courtesy of a 2-0 count.

[Mutaman]

Rfs62 used to call Redszone a great place where you'd talk baseball like buddies at a bar.

Now it's become this.

gO rEdZ

Sort of like Sun Deck last year. :)

[Krawhitham]

About damn time

[paulrichjr]

Wow. Cueto is back out there. Did anyone let Dusty know this is an elimination game

I do not understand the logic. He is just bad in these situations.

[Kc61]

Not sure why the line drive off the umpire gets to be a double.

Hitter was just out of the box. Why does he get second base?

[redsrule2500]

This game thread tonight is proof of how much better Redszone was before it got too big. Rfs62 used to call Redszone a great place where you'd talk baseball like buddies at a bar.

Now it's become this.

gO rEdZ



Come on. This is exactly how any "buddies at a bar" would be talking about the Reds in a game like this!

[dougdirt]

This game thread tonight is proof of how much better Redszone was before it got too big. Rfs62 used to call Redszone a great place where you'd talk baseball like buddies at a bar.

Now it's become this.

gO rEdZ

When Redszone started, and for a long, long time after that, the Reds sucked and were playing for nothing. Lately, they have been good and playing for things that actually matter. When things matter, people get more emotional. When people get emotional, you get some wildly emotional posts.

[Tom Servo]

Johnny laid an egg. Fortunately the game is still close.

[Joseph]

These announcers are simply awful.

[Reds Fanatic]

Marshall in to face Walker

[chuck6660]

Just barely missed giving the Reds a 2 out go ahead 3 r HR, which would have been HUGE

Yeah, but he ended up striking out...too bad we're not playing with handgrenades! :lol:

[DocRed]

Is the site hanging for everyone?

[George Anderson]

Not sure why the line drive off the umpire gets to be a double.

Hitter was just out of the box. Why does he get second base?

It's a live ball

[_Sir_Charles_]

Marshall in btw.

[dougdirt]

Not sure why the line drive off the umpire gets to be a double.

Hitter was just out of the box. Why does he get second base?

He doesn't. The umpire is "part of the playing field". The ball is live. He could have had an inside the park home run if no one ever went to get the ball.

[M2]

I assume the plan here is get Walker, walk McCutchen, go after Morneau.

[George Foster]

12 innngs against the Mets and Astros...yep..ready for the playoffs.

Prime time!

[Rantly]

Now i REALLY do not want Baker or Jacoby back for 2014.. To say their is no urgency during the whole Mets series or the Pirate series and today, I am done with Baker..I wont go to RedsFest if Baker is back

At the VERY least Jacoby better not be back! Where did he even come from, no ties to the Reds, Dusty bring him on board? There has got to be somebody better...

[bleedsred]

Part of me wanted to Ondrusek, just to hear the fans try to chant his name....

[powersackers]

It's a live ball

It went under the tarp

[RedsBrick]

Not sure why the line drive off the umpire gets to be a double.

Hitter was just out of the box. Why does he get second base?

I'm just glad it wasn't a triple.

That's a double in every possible scenerio

[BCubb2003]

Part of me wanted to Ondrusek, just to hear the fans try to chant his name....

Leake would be even harder.

[Kc61]

I'm just glad it wasn't a triple.

That's a double in every possible scenerio

I thought the ump gave the man second base. Maybe I misinterpreted his "fair" call.

[Todd Gack]

So you don't like Jay Bruce. You don't like Joey Votto.

Who the heck do you like on this team?

I love Joey Votto. I just don't like how you think Joey is so dreamy.

[Wonderful Monds]

If he pulls Marshall as a LOOGY after this I might throw my TV off my balcony.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Part of me wanted to Ondrusek, just to hear the fans try to chant his name....

I was thinking the same thing earlier. Then I realized they'd just go for "Logan".

[Tom Servo]

of course

[Wonderful Monds]

If he pulls Marshall as a LOOGY after this I might throw my TV off my balcony.

OK maybe never mind

[Reds Fanatic]

Walker doubles off the wall and they give the run right back. 4-1 Pirates

[DocRed]

Wow really Marshall?

[dougdirt]

I love Joey Votto. I just don't like how you think Joey is so dreamy.

Have you seen him? The dude is a stud.

[George Anderson]

It went under the tarp

Then its a ground rule double

[LexRedsFan]

This is awful.....

[_Sir_Charles_]

4-1. :( Curveball right in the heart of the dish.

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk to McCutchen

[Todd Gack]

Have you seen him? The dude is a stud.

You must've missed his last AB.

[xsteve1]

The Pirates have some serious thunder in that lineup. They may win it all.

[BLEEDS]

Do we have any pitchers just off the DL we could throw out there to not fool anybody and throw meatballs?!?

[Krawhitham]

Was ludwick that slow in the outfield last season?

[DocRed]

I finally see what Dusty is doing here. Will he bring in Broxton next? How about Madsen?

[Todd Gack]

Maybe it's just me Doug, but when a guy gets paid 200 mill, I'd expect him to perform like it when it matters.

Congrats to Joey on being a HOF batter in the regular season.

[WMR]

These are all steeler fans.... Gag me with a spoon.

[redsrolen]

At the VERY least Jacoby better not be back! Where did he even come from, no ties to the Reds, Dusty bring him on board? There has got to be somebody better...

Jacoby is the reason we've been in the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 yrs...Is he perfect...no...but he got the Cardinals to a couple world series!

[Red in Chicago]

nm

[redsrule2500]

Hey Dusty, do we have any pitchers who haven't been injured for the majority of the season?

[RedsBrick]

I thought the ump gave the man second base. Maybe I misinterpreted his "fair" call.

Yeah...I think he was just signaling a fair ball.

[Roy Tucker]

maybe they can pitch Cingrani and make it a trifecta for hurt guys.

[Mutaman]

The Pirates have some serious thunder in that lineup. They may win it all.

Same team that got shut down by the padres recently. The problem here is not the Pirates.

[dougdirt]

You must've missed his last AB.

They all suck then. Every player in baseball history who is worth speaking about has struck out on 3 pitches before. Every. One. Of. Them.

Plus, weren't we talking about how dreamy he was, not about the kind of player he is?

[BuckeyeRedleg]

I wonder if Walt Jocketty is awake yet from his three month nap.

Hopefully, for his sake, he didn't pick tonight to set his alarm clock.

[bleedsred]

4-1 bottom of 4th....a long way from over

[Kc61]

I assume Marshall will come out after Morneau. Marshall may not be a LOOGY but he is much more effective against lefty hitters.

[Krawhitham]

this is getting real ugly

[George Foster]

walk the lefty.....joke!!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hoover coming in. 1 in, 1 down, bases juiced.

[Red in Chicago]

cueto and marshall...getting the job done...awesome job guys...

[Edskin]

Pirates dominating time of posession

[Krawhitham]

Is he bringing in Hoover to give up the Grand Slam?

[Cedric]

Cueto coming out to start this inning was slightly questionable.

[M2]

I love the running avocado.

[LexRedsFan]

Hoover, I assume coming in.

[xsteve1]

I wonder if Walt Jocketty is awake yet from his three month nap.

Hopefully, for his sake, he didn't pick tonight to set his alarm clock.

He's been asleep at the wheel for the last year. Izturis was a heck of a move.

[DocRed]

Wow, Dusty is going down in flames here. Guy just can't win in the postseason no matter what you think of him as a manager. I hope Castellini is boiling over right now and has the guts to make a change.

[RedsBrick]

maybe they can pitch Cingrani and make it a trifecta for hurt guys.

Nick Massett?

[tomnuetten]

2-3 days ago 90% of redszone liked the idea of cueto pitching the wild card game

after his outing the users don´t like the fact that dusty uses pitchers who missed lot of time with injuries...

=> weird

[Krawhitham]

Hoover has a .545 BAA with bases loaded this season

[M2]

Pirates dominating time of posession

I'm giving this post a coupon for a future like on another Edskin post.

[George Foster]

Dusty should pull a George Costanza and do the opposite of what he thinks he should do.

[Todd Gack]

They all suck then. Every player in baseball history who is worth speaking about has struck out on 3 pitches before. Every. One. Of. Them.

Plus, weren't we talking about how dreamy he was, not about the kind of player he is?

Of course everyone has struck out on 3 pitches, but I'd never know Votto has ever done it listening to you. As annoying as I can be, you can be just as bad defending that man about EVERYTHING. Everything from TOOTBLANS to Defense. Nothing is ever Joey's fault. It's someone else.

[Tom Servo]

good job BP.


This is a disaster.

[Mutaman]

I suspect Marshal never rcovered. of course that then leads to the question, what's he doing on the roster.

[redsrule2500]

Phillips misses the DP. Unreal.

Negative amounts of SWAG.

[Krawhitham]

Good job BP

[Red in Chicago]

swagless effort on a routine double play ball

[Reds Fanatic]

I can't believe it. Phillips boots an easy DP and gives away a run. 5-1 Pirates

[LexRedsFan]

Brandon playing some small ball there.

[RedsBrick]

Wow, we're choking in all phases

[xsteve1]

Wow, Dusty is going down in flames here. Guy just can't win in the postseason no matter what you think of him as a manager. I hope Castellini is boiling over right now and has the guts to make a change.

I like Dusty but you'll get your wish. He's done about as good as he can with the Reds overrated talent.

[Edskin]

Officially a choke now. Honestly you can't even argue otherwise.

[wally post]

I'd feel better if the Reds were throwing this game, but I've gotta blame Walt & Dusty. It all filters down from there.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Brandon Phillips has aged a ton in the past few months.

These next four years should be great.

[CTA513]

just giving the Pirates runs tonight

[Reds4Life]

Nice job Brandon, nice job. I am about to turn this mess off.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Damn. That should've been a dp. Bad time for a bobble.

[Redsfansince72]

they showed Bob and Joe Morgan not looking happy..

[George Foster]

The bright lights got in Brandon's eyes right there..tough break.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart with a FC to end the inning. 5-1 Pirates

[M2]

Where's the reset button for this game? I want to start over.

[lidspinner]

Same reds we have seen all year....sometimes people (myself included) are such big fans that we can't see the real team from all the good things they do against inferior talent.....this is the same team we have seen since April. I'm not shocked at all. This is what our talent has gotten us. Barely good enough to make the playoffs but never gonna be good enough to stay in the playoffs more than a week. It's who we are and it's who we have been for 3-4 years and it's the team that was built. Our holes are still holes no matter which way you try and spin it.

[TheBigLebowski]

Just a fitting end to a very frustrating and exasperating season.

I don't know why we expected anything different.

Hope this signals the end of Baker and Jacoby.

We'll not re-sign Choo nor Arroyo.

I'd trade Cueto if the right partner presents itself.

I hope someone decides to wake Walt Jocketty this off-season.

Brandon's act has just officially grown old and we are saddled with that albatross of a contract.

Kinda glad this season is mercifully over. I think we're better - as a franchise and fans - when there are no expectations. It's our comfort zone. We should be headed right back to that wheelhouse soon.

[Todd Gack]

This is the first time in saying this, but at this rate, I'm fully on-board firing Dusty if we lose. Heck, if we don't at least get to WS. This team just LOOKS defeated.

[Rantly]

Jacoby is the reason we've been in the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 yrs...Is he perfect...no...but he got the Cardinals to a couple world series!

Didn't realize he was with Cards, so he is the GM's man then. Stretching it to say HE got us in the playoff's 3 out of 4 years IMO. I think the pitching has been the reason the last 2 years, look at the batting averages of the guys this year.

[dubc47834]

I totally get the frustration tonite, but I am highly disappointed with Redszone tonite!

[redsrule2500]

Cueto 3.1 IP 3 ER
Marshall 0.0 IP 1 ER

[SporkLover]

Of course everyone has struck out on 3 pitches, but I'd never know Votto has ever done it listening to you. As annoying as I can be, you can be just as bad defending that man about EVERYTHING. Everything from TOOTBLANS to Defense. Nothing is ever Joey's fault. It's someone else.

Come on... They always plat the soda race when he's on field.

[M2]

All right, job #1 for the Reds the next time they take the mound in this game: strike someone out.

[klw]

On the bright side, Liriano is having a long wait between innings.

[DocRed]

they showed Bob and Joe Morgan not looking happy..

If you're not happy Bob, then do something. It's still your team you know....

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart walks

[dubc47834]

Just a fitting end to a very frustrating and exasperating season.

I don't know why we expected anything different.

Hope this signals the end of Baker and Jacoby.

We'll not re-sign Choo nor Arroyo.

I'd trade Cueto if the right partner presents itself.

I hope someone decides to wake Walt Jocketty this off-season.

Brandon's act has just officially grown old and we are saddled with that albatross of a contract.

Kinda glad this season is mercifully over. I think we're better - as a franchise and fans - when there are no expectations. It's our comfort zone. We should be headed right back to that wheelhouse soon.

While you're at it, trade the whole team!

[Red in Chicago]

a base runner :eek:

[WMR]

I totally get the frustration tonite, but I am highly disappointed with Redszone tonite!

Sorry, Mr. Ludwick.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cozy on with the leadoff BB. Let's get it started boys!

[M2]

Just a fitting end to a very frustrating and exasperating season.

I thought the team won 90 games and that this was a playoff game. Maybe I've been watching another season.

[Kc61]

Need to hit for Hanigan here. Hope it works out.

[edabbs44]

The only thing less impressive so far than the Reds tonight is this thread. Really sad. Almost like the habitual complainers are totally into it.

Enjoy.

[tomnuetten]

blame dusty for the game tonight!

obviously it was his fault that cueto plays poorly, bp can´t make routine plays, the offence looks lost sometimes...

[joshua]

This offense won't have Choo next year.

[Tom Servo]

Both the crowd and Liriano seem to be into a lull now. Now is the time, Redlegs...

[Roy Tucker]

Hey, can we at least play the rest of the game and see what happens?

[Reds Fanatic]

Hanigan flies out to right.

Heisey pinch hitting

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hi-C pinch hitting. I would've hit Mesoraco for Hanny too.

[Kc61]

Really do not understand letting Hanigan hit there. Have to start putting hitters into the game with men on base.

C'mon Heisey.

[BCubb2003]

This is all going to sound silly when Billy Hamilton hits a grand slam in the ninth.

[REDREAD]

Well, seeing Cueto laughing in the dugout while Marshall was struggling was not particularly inspirational.

Then seeing Phillips screw up an easy double play to allow another run to score was just too much.

I made excuses for the Reds in 2010 and 2012, but this year.. Sorry Reds, you choked. Other than Todd Frazier, the same tired play we saw when we ended the season 0-5.

[Mutaman]

I totally get the frustration tonite, but I am highly disappointed with Redszone tonite!

You'll get over it.

[Krawhitham]

@FOX19: Dusty Baker: 0-8 in elimination games.

[Rantly]

I totally get the frustration tonite, but I am highly disappointed with Redszone tonite!

You're not frustrated?
Disappointed in you

[George Foster]

Need to hit for Hanigan here. Hope it works out.

Can we put in Mez now for some offense? Hanigan did not even bat .200 this year.

[nate]

The only thing less impressive so far than the Reds tonight is this thread. Really sad. Almost like the habitual complainers are totally into it.

Enjoy.

Word.

Giving up before the final out is lame.

Believe in something.

[redsrule2500]

Cueto 3.1 IP 3 ER
Marshall 0.0 IP 1 ER


Good choices so far

[LexRedsFan]

Pirates convert their double play opportunities.

[Reds Fanatic]

5-4-3 DP. 5-1 Pirates after 5.

[Wonderful Monds]

[Forget] this team.

[Todd Gack]

Really do not understand letting Hanigan hit there. Have to start putting hitters into the game with men on base.

C'mon Heisey.

I said the same thing. Trbl

[TheBigLebowski]

I thought the team won 90 games and that this was a playoff game. Maybe I've been watching another season.

A team that was expected to compete for a world series..that committed all kinds of money to key components...finished 3rd in its division and is about to lose the wild card play in game.

The "I thought I was watching playoff baseball!" argument is far too simplistic and loses context of where this franchise is...or, at least, is supposed to be. And you know that.

[Larry Schuler]

You can't have a historic come back without trailing for a few innings.

[Cedric]

How does Hanigan bat there? Is that a legit question or is that bashing?

[LeDoux]

Okay, the Reds let the Pirates sweep that last series to lure them into the trap. They let them go up 5-1 to lull them into a false sense of security. Cool. When will the trap be sprung? the 6th? 7th?

[dubc47834]

You'll get over it.

I know, but maybe many on this thread tonite will be happy when we go back to sucking every year. I know this game has been tough to watch, but really, we could be Cubs fans!!!

[wally post]

Let's see more shots of Cueto laughing in the dugout.

[Mutaman]

This offense won't have Choo next year.

Did't have him last year. Won the divison by 9 games. Had the world champs down 2-0.

[Reds Fanatic]

Simon in to pitch

[George Foster]

Okay, the Reds let the Pirates sweep that last series to lure them into the trap. They let them go up 5-1 to lull them into a false sense of security. Cool. When will the trap be sprung? the 6th? 7th?

I want what your taking for pain management

[wally post]

Word.

Giving up before the final out is lame.

Believe in something.

Can't bring myself to do it.

[bleedsred]

Simon goes 3 slamming the door shut, Reds pull even to set up a dramatic finish......

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin flies out to center.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Simon in.

I'm a huge fan of Hanigan...but yeah, that's the first decision tonight that I really question. Should've ph at that point. It's no longer a "small ball" game, we need the pop.

[Rantly]

I thought the team won 90 games and that this was a playoff game. Maybe I've been watching another season.

hello...losing 6 in a row to end the season...you're surprised at the frustration?

[Reds Fanatic]

Barmes lines a single to left

[Falls City Beer]

This team is stagnant. They need new blood.

[dubc47834]

You're not frustrated?
Disappointed in you

I am frustrated, but wholly cow. Many are acting like the world is ending! I refuse to think that way. The world will still turn tomorrow...win or lose!

[DocRed]

When did this team turn into the Astros?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Let's see more shots of Cueto laughing in the dugout.

To be honest with you, I'm all for that. That's part of the problem IMO. They're playing tight. They need to remember to have FUN and play loose. Laughing and joking is a GOOD thing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Liriano sacrifices the runner to 2nd.

[Mutaman]

I know, but maybe many on this thread tonite will be happy when we go back to sucking every year. I know this game has been tough to watch, but really, we could be Cubs fans!!!

All I ask is that my team play up to my reasonable expectations. The Cubs did that this year, the Redlegs did not. looks like they'll both be playing golf tomorrow anyhow.

[Red in Chicago]

When did this team turn into the Astros?

unfortunately about a week ago

[Redsfansince72]

i cant stand Larussa, but i would like him alot better than Baker if he got the Reds a World Championship!!

[Cicero2.0]

hello...losing 6 in a row to end the season...you're surprised at the frustration?

They are really only making it official tonight. They have been done for a week now.

[tomnuetten]

Cueto 3.1 IP 3 ER
Marshall 0.0 IP 1 ER


Good choices so far

again I didn´t made a statistic but it seemed like 90% of redszone user liked the idea of cueto as starter (with latos and bailey banged up)

marshall wasn´t sharp but with normal reds defence he would have 0 ER

....

all those elimination game statistics say nothing! the pirates were the better team for most of the season and have (in my opinion the better players) I don´t think that dusty is a super ingame manager, but I don´t get how he gets the blame for everything

and I´m pretty sure that price has to say something aswell (which pitcher will go in and at which time dusty should pull em) but he would never get criticized...

[Reds Fanatic]

Marte flies out to center. 5-1 Pirates after 5.

[Razor Shines]

Word.

Giving up before the final out is lame.

Believe in something.

Giving up? I'm just a fan. I don't have the choice to give up or not give up. Watching my favorite team play poorly in a playoff game is frustrating.

[TheBigLebowski]

I am frustrated, but wholly cow. Many are acting like the world is ending! I refuse to think that way. The world will still turn tomorrow...win or lose!

Gone completely bovine?

[RedEye]

This hurts. A lot. You guys know me as someone who usually forestalls psychological explanations and errs on the side of performance-based analysis. But I have absolutely no way to explain what happens to this team in the playoffs.

It's not on Dusty at this point, it's on this group of players. Errors and mental gaffes in all three playoff trips they've had. 2010 they were inexperienced. 2012 was a statistical anomaly... or something. This year? I hope I'm wrong and they turn this around, but this feels like a familiar script. And I think it's on them this time.

[harangatang]

This team is stagnant. They need new blood.Who plays second base?

[nate]

Can't bring myself to do it.

Marvel in the possibilities that are a baseball game.

All an Eeyore-mounted Debbie Downer gets at this point is prolonged misery.

Channel your inner Fox Mulder.

[Rantly]

I said the same thing. Trbl

Seems like sound advise but what hitters on the bench? (pinch hitting for Hannigan with the hitters on the bench)

[cincinnati chili]

Not giving up yet.

[Razor Shines]

I am frustrated, but wholly cow. Many are acting like the world is ending! I refuse to think that way. The world will still turn tomorrow...win or lose!

So in your mind if I thought the world was ending tomorrow I'd be on a message board whining about a baseball game? You must think I'm a pretty cool guy.

[Billy Hamilton's Legs]

The Reds lack composure in pressure situations. Rolen groundball, Latos grandslam, Cueto today, Cozart/BP bobbles, the 2010 no-hit/sweep and the list goes on.

[redsrule2500]

I am frustrated, but wholly cow. Many are acting like the world is ending! I refuse to think that way. The world will still turn tomorrow...win or lose!

You're being unfair. Nobody has said the world is ending, everyone is just venting frustration about a baseball game.

[paulrichjr]

Who plays second base?

Cano

[Wonderful Monds]

Who plays second base?

Alexander Guerrero? I'm ready for someone besides Phillips.

[harangatang]

This Reds ballclub is too good to go out like this tonight.

[Billy_Bearcat]

Okay, I know I'm terrible, but tell me who else agrees: if I was managing, last inning, with Liriano up, I bring in Chapman and tell him "Nothing but heat. Nail him"

[Reds Fanatic]

Choo grounds out to Liriano

[powersackers]

1 run an inning boys. That'll do it

[Kc61]

This hurts. A lot. You guys know me as someone who usually forestalls psychological explanations and errs on the side of performance-based analysis. But I have absolutely no way to explain what happens to this team in the playoffs.

It's not on Dusty at this point, it's on this group of players. Errors and mental gaffes in all three playoff trips they've had. 2010 they were inexperienced. 2012 was a statistical anomaly... or something. This year? I hope I'm wrong and they turn this around, but this feels like a familiar script. And I think it's on them this time.

In 2010 and 2012 the team was a clearcut division champ. They should have done better in the playoffs, particularly last year.

This year the team has had problems all year long. They were a borderline playoff team. Period. Sometimes lightening strikes, usually not.

If they want to go deeper they need to improve. It's that simple.

[LexRedsFan]

Not giving up yet.

The team certainly looks as if they have. They look worn down.

[fielder's choice]

Cueto laughing: get over it. He had a bad night. Marshall was probably trying to cheer him up. Their lives will go on. Yours should too.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick hitting well tonight. Double to right center.

[DocRed]

Geezus McCutcheon is fast....

[LexRedsFan]

Ludwick with what will likely be ruled a double. Please Joey. Please.

[cincinnati chili]

great effort by Cutch.

[George Foster]

This hurts. A lot. You guys know me as someone who usually forestalls psychological explanations and errs on the side of performance-based analysis. But I have absolutely no way to explain what happens to this team in the playoffs.

It's not on Dusty at this point, it's on this group of players. Errors and mental gaffes in all three playoff trips they've had. 2010 they were inexperienced. 2012 was a statistical anomaly... or something. This year? I hope I'm wrong and they turn this around, but this feels like a familiar script. And I think it's on them this time.

We're not even the Buffalo Bills...at least they made it to the super bowl 3 times.

[The Operator]

Back at ye olde hotel room.

Couldn't take anymore suddenly "die-hard" Pirates fans out at the bar.


And as I say that, Luddy doubles. Let's go, boys!

[Todd Gack]

Ludwick 2-3 tonight.

2-spot is looking pretty nice right now.

[Falls City Beer]

I'm weirdly relieved it's over. This has been the least enjoyable winning season since 2000. Get em next year. Or something. Tally ho, folks!

[Mutaman]

This hurts. A lot. You guys know me as someone who usually forestalls psychological explanations and errs on the side of performance-based analysis. But I have absolutely no way to explain what happens to this team in the playoffs.

It's not on Dusty at this point, it's on this group of players. Errors and mental gaffes in all three playoff trips they've had. 2010 they were inexperienced. 2012 was a statistical anomaly... or something. This year? I hope I'm wrong and they turn this around, but this feels like a familiar script. And I think it's on them this time.

We've had our differences but I agree completely. Baker will get the blame, but this is on the players, and that includes the stars.

[Wonderful Monds]

You could argue that the Reds could use a replacement at every position but 1B and RF.

Hamilton will be in CF so at least he'll be new blood. Aside from that they could arguably use a new LF, SS, C and maybe 3B.


They have a great pitching staff and a fourth of an offense. You can't win with that.

[DocRed]

Do something Votto.

[LexRedsFan]

Board speed seems to have improved. Please be a sign. Please be a sign.

[faffy42]

Votto...useless. put hamilton in at 3 spot.

[xsteve1]

Votto just gets blinded by the bright lights of the big stage.

[joshua]

Was just thinking at least if the Reds lose here it won't be a historic loss like 2010 and 2012...

Then I remembered that an away team has yet to lose a wildcard play in game.

[The Operator]

Great at-bat, Joseph.

[fielder's choice]

Okay, I know I'm terrible, but tell me who else agrees: if I was managing, last inning, with Liriano up, I bring in Chapman and tell him "Nothing but heat. Nail him"

Nobody agrees with that garbage, bro.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto with 2 strike outs in big situations tonight

[Razor Shines]

Cueto laughing: get over it. He had a bad night. Marshall was probably trying to cheer him up. Their lives will go on. Yours should too.

I agree. I don't blame Cueto, I don't think he should have been put in that position. I have no doubt he did his best and I see no reason why he should sit and beat himself up. Which in point of fact I'm sure he is beating himself up whether the camera catches a moment of him laughing or not.

[DocRed]

Wow, Votto completely lost there. Take 2 strikes....swing at the 3rd. 250 million dollars well spent.

[dougdirt]

We're not even the Buffalo Bills...at least they made it to the super bowl 3 times.

Four times.

[Red in Chicago]

votto mystified by liriano

[Todd Gack]

Votto tonight: 8 pitches seen. 7 strikes.

[The Operator]

That was quick.

[George Foster]

Ludwick with what will likely be ruled a double. Please Joey. Please.

Dusty did leave Ludwick in games long enough to get him hot..2 hits.

Votto turning into Barry bonds in the post season...

[LexRedsFan]

Pathetic effort by the whole team except Ludwick, Frazier, and Bruce.

[Mutaman]

I'm weirdly relieved it's over. This has been the least enjoyable winning season since 2000. Get em next year. Or something. Tally ho, folks!

Great minds think alike.

[TheBigLebowski]

Tar me and feather me....string me up the flagpole...whatever...I'm saying it - Votto is not living up to expectations and has been absolutely AWFUL tonight. Only Phillips has been worse.

[dubc47834]

Imagine that. The same guys that constantly piss and moan during the season are same ones getting on my case!

[xsteve1]

Phillips looks old.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Awesome showing by Votto and Phillips tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 2nd on the first pitch. 5-1 Pirates mid 6th

[5TimeWSChamps]

$324 million guaranteed for those two at-bats

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto just gets blinded by the bright lights of the big stage.

I can't express how much I disagree with this post.

Votto just matches up poorly with Liriano. Some hitters have a really hard time seeing the ball against some pitchers. It's really that simple.

[The Operator]

Wow, Votto completely lost there. Take 2 strikes....swing at the 3rd. 250 million dollars well spent.Because 1 game is a great indicator of whether or not a contract was a good decisions... yep.

Just stop. Please.

[BCubb2003]

Phillips is more injured than he is letting on.

[mdccclxix]

I'm in the trade Phillips corner for many reasons.

[Razor Shines]

Imagine that. The same guys that constantly piss and moan during the season are same ones getting on my case!

Continually pissing and moaning about guys pissing and moaning. Well played.