Who do you WANT as the next manager?

[Homer Bailey]

Simple question. Based on what you know and the names that have been mentioned, who would be your choice?

If other, list who.

Poll will be public in case we want to revisit in a few years.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Larkin

[BluegrassRedleg]

Price is starting to win me over.

[kaldaniels]

Gun to my head right this minute...Bryan Price.

But I'd be searching outside the organization for some fresh blood...just don't know enough about anyone to pin it down.

[texasdave]

Brad Ausmus or Larry Dierker. My first choice would be Dierker. He may be too old and not want the job. My fallback would be Ausmus. My fallbacker would be Price.

[Red Raindog]

Voted for price -- but I could change my mind...

:)

[Wonderful Monds]

Other - Dave Martinez

[757690]

Is there a way to vote "not Riggleman?"

[kbrake]

I voted Price but I am a bit concerned that everyone seems to be on board with Price. It can't be this obvious can it? It almost has to blow up if everyone wants Price, right?

[Tom Servo]

Voted other because I'm a dope who missed Price right at the top. My other two favorites after Price aren't listed though, Jose Oquendo and Charlie Manuel.

[ED44]

Other-Dave Martinez

[JaxRed]

I figured it would be a runaway and I'd be fine with Price, so I gave Pete Mackanin some love

[Edd Roush]

Joe Maddon and if not, Dave Martinez

[AmarilloRed]

Paul O'Neill knows how to win in the playoffs.

[corkedbat]

From that list? Easily Price, but he, Mackanin and Tracy are the only ones I'd consider (although I think there's a strong possibility the FO taps Bell). Not saying those three are at the top of my list (Price is near), but there are about a dozen out there I like that are not on this list.

[HokieRed]

Hoping TLR can be persuaded.

[Mutaman]

Paul O'Neill knows how to win in the playoffs.

I voted for O'neill. Always was shocked and amazed at the way he not only handled the pressure in New York , but actually thrived on it. Big decision but the guy has always impressed me.

What Bronson said about Price is very persuasive, but i think this team needs someone from the outside.

[George Foster]

Fresh blood is needed. Matt Williams, or O'neil

[FlightRick]

Other - Dave Martinez

Same.

There are a lot of guys on this list that I would veto instantly, if I had such a power, and to me, avoiding them is the most important thing that the Reds do. But then, of the number of candidates I wouldn't veto, and whom I'd be happy to welcome as the Reds' new manager, Martinez is the guy who interests me marginally more than any other.

[Redsfansince72]

Pinella or a hard nose like O'Neill etc..

[M2]

Pinella or a hard nose like O'Neill etc..

As intense as O'Neill was on the field, I'm sure he noticed that he didn't fully thrive while playing for Lou Piniella and that he became a living legend playing for Joe Torre. O'Neill liked to scream at his bat and glove, but I wouldn't assume he thinks screaming at people nets you results.

[WVRedsFan]

Voted for Price (I've been persuaded) because there is not one chance in Hades TLR or Davey, or Paul, or (I hope) Riggleman will get the job. That said, I'm not sure if it's the right move, but all those former Reds being considered is fool's gold. I'd prefer a seasoned manager, but I mentioned who would be better than Dusty earlier. I still feel the same way. As bad as that is.

[Mutaman]

As intense as O'Neill was on the field, I'm sure he noticed that he didn't fully thrive while playing for Lou Piniella and that he became a living legend playing for Joe Torre. O'Neill liked to scream at his bat and glove, but I wouldn't assume he thinks screaming at people nets you results.

Depends on the person. Mike Francesa said the other day that he once personally observed Torre screaming at Robinson Cano. But i doubt he ever screamed at Bernie Williams, a very laid back guy who O'Neill appeared to be best buddies with. I doubt Torre ever screamed at O'Neill either. But there are some folks who respond to screaming.

[Billy Hamilton's Legs]

Depends on the person. Mike Francesa said the other day that he once personally observed Torre screaming at Robinson Cano. But i doubt he ever screamed at Bernie Williams, a very laid back guy who O'Neill appeared to be best buddies with. I doubt Torre ever screamed at O'Neill either. But there are some folks who respond to screaming.

It kind of worries me about this team that players like Votto, Choo, and Bruce are types that, to me, don't seem like players that respond to screaming/other motivational tactics by a manager. I'm not intending for this to be a slight against them, but they seem to have their own way of playing and would prefer to "manage" themselves and be left alone. I'm not in the clubhouse, this is just my perception.

[BoydsOfSummer]

Boy would I love Joe Maddon.

[RedsManRick]

Call me selfish, I just want a manager who is smart and not "old-school". I don't think we need a wholesale tone change, we just need to stop protecting players from their failures and undervaluing and poorly utilizing our best players.

[dougdirt]

What, no Marty Brennamen option?

[icehole3]

What, no Marty Brennamen option?

who do you like Doug? :)

[cumberlandreds]

What, no Marty Brennamen option?


Thom could be the pitching coach,right? :)


Price deserves a shot at this. I believe he could be a good manager but he's a risk since he never has managed. Has he managed at any level or in the winter leagues?

[dougdirt]

who do you like Doug? :)

I am a big fan of Anna Kendrick.

[Cyclone792]

Price is the most obvious candidate, and the work he's done with our pitching staff is spot on terrific. I'd be happy with him.

On a sidenote, I'd love to also get Rolen back in the organization in some capacity. In what role, I'm not sure, but any role is likely going to be better for the Reds than no role at all.

[redsrule2500]

Pete Mack

[klw]

I voted for Price. I would also be happy with Davy Johnson returning as a bridge to Corky.

[Bob Sheed]

Pete Rose. He wasn't a terrible manager and can you imagine the ticket sales?

As long as he doesn't try to bat himself lead-off again to pile on a few more hits.

[CySeymour]

Pete Rose. He wasn't a terrible manager and can you imagine the ticket sales?

As long as he doesn't try to bat himself lead-off again to pile on a few more hits.

No thanks. Actually, Pete wasn't that great of a manager. Kind of like the extreme Dusty. If the choice is Pete or Dusty, I'm staying with Baker.

[Always Red]

I voted for O'neill. Always was shocked and amazed at the way he not only handled the pressure in New York , but actually thrived on it. Big decision but the guy has always impressed me.

What Bronson said about Price is very persuasive, but i think this team needs someone from the outside.

O'Neill is intriguing. Was a hot headed player who did not do well with a hot headed manager, but thrived under calm, cool Torre. He's seen both sides of it, and know what works. Obviously around a lot of winning teams and personalities. I think he lives in Cincinnati still, when not working.

I think I prefer Price at this point, but wouldn't be upset with O'Neill.

[CySeymour]

I am a big fan of Anna Kendrick.

Maybe the Reds could get her to sing the National Anthem.

[joshua]

Price or Oquendo.

Either way, I'm hoping there's a major improvement at hitting coach.

[dougdirt]

Maybe the Reds could get her to sing the National Anthem.

I would buy tickets for that game.

[Hollcat]

From that list I'll take Price but I would like to know if there are any legit candidates with ties to the Oakland organization.

[REDREAD]

Pete Rose. He wasn't a terrible manager and can you imagine the ticket sales?

As long as he doesn't try to bat himself lead-off again to pile on a few more hits.

I know you're joking, but Pete was horrible at managing the bullpen.
Ron Robinson and Murphy both said Pete shortened their careers by constantly warming them up in just about every game (multiple times)

Pete was a good motivator though. The way he turned around that totally listless team to a 2nd place team was impressive. Lot's of players (Concepcion, Oester, etc) played a lot better when Pete arrived.

[Chip R]

I know you're joking, but Pete was horrible at managing the bullpen.
Ron Robinson and Murphy both said Pete shortened their careers by constantly warming them up in just about every game (multiple times)

Whitey Herzog said pretty much the same thing in his last book but didn't say anything about how he shortened Murphy's and Robinson's careers. He said that Pete would warm up two guys at the same time who pitched with the same arm instead of one of each. He also mentioned the constant warming up and sitting down.


Pete was a good motivator though. The way he turned around that totally listless team to a 2nd place team was impressive. Lot's of players (Concepcion, Oester, etc) played a lot better when Pete arrived.

Dave Parker having an MVP year helped too but you're right, he did something to turn that team around.

[reds44]

I won't have any problem with Price, but the main reason it seems as Dusty was fired is "culture." It would seem to me they want to bring in life into the clubhouse because lets be honest this team seemed to be pretty dead all year. I'm just not sure if firing Dusty and promoting a guy who was already here makes sense.

I'm still going Scott Hatteberg. I did like the little I saw from Mackanin when he was the interm guy and he has some life to him. I wouldn't be against him.

[Chip R]

I won't have any problem with Price, but the main reason it seems as Dusty was fired is "culture." It would seem to me they want to bring in life into the clubhouse because lets be honest this team seemed to be pretty dead all year. I'm just not sure if firing Dusty and promoting a guy who was already here makes sense.

Perhaps he has different ideas on how to run a team than Dusty did.


I'm still going Scott Hatteberg. I did like the little I saw from Mackanin when he was the interm guy and he has some life to him. I wouldn't be against him.

IIRC, Mackanin re-signed with Philly. Of course if the Reds wanted him they could - and probably would - let him out of his deal.

[Homer Bailey]

I won't have any problem with Price, but the main reason it seems as Dusty was fired is "culture." It would seem to me they want to bring in life into the clubhouse because lets be honest this team seemed to be pretty dead all year. I'm just not sure if firing Dusty and promoting a guy who was already here makes sense.

I'm still going Scott Hatteberg. I did like the little I saw from Mackanin when he was the interm guy and he has some life to him. I wouldn't be against him.

While I get your point, I have the feeling that Price is very much the anti-Dusty. He's not a "Dusty guy", so there's nothing that would make me think he wouldn't have his own individual style.

What I do fear is that with his lack of experience as a manager, he would defer to "by the book", rather than taking his own analytical approach. But the Arroyo and Lecure quotes really make me think that this is our guy. And not to mention the affect he's had on the pitching staff.

[Old NDN]

O'Neill is intriguing. Was a hot headed player who did not do well with a hot headed manager, but thrived under calm, cool Torre. He's seen both sides of it, and know what works. Obviously around a lot of winning teams and personalities. I think he lives in Cincinnati still, when not working.

I think I prefer Price at this point, but wouldn't be upset with O'Neill.

Well, he could certainly give a few tips on throwing tantrums. He could help Bruce on perfecting the ole kicking the relay too! No to O'neill for me. If they're going to stay with Reds-themed candidates, might as well try Price.

[Puffy]

Larry Dierker
Brad Ausmus
Jim Tracy

[WVRed]

Dusty Baker














Just kidding. :-) I'm going with Oquendo. Anything that makes the Cardinals weaker and with the Latin American connection on this team I think he would be a huge asset on this team.

[westofyou]

Who do you want as the next manager?

http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/jesus_baseball.jpg

[icehole3]

I am a big fan of Anna Kendrick.

never took you as a Twilight Saga fan :)

[Crumbley]

My heart says Rolen, my brain says Price.

[Raisor]

If Dierker was interested in the job sign him up yesterday

[badcontent]

Voted other because I'm a dope who missed Price right at the top. My other two favorites after Price aren't listed though, Jose Oquendo and Charlie Manuel.
How could you miss Price? He's right at the top!

:confused:

[badcontent]

My heart says Rolen, my brain says Price.
rolen would only break your heart anyway

[George Anderson]

O'Neill is intriguing. Was a hot headed player who did not do well with a hot headed manager, but thrived under calm, cool Torre. He's seen both sides of it, and know what works. Obviously around a lot of winning teams and personalities. I think he lives in Cincinnati still, when not working.

I think I prefer Price at this point, but wouldn't be upset with O'Neill.

I thought O'Neil was a horrible idea when I first heard it but I gotta admit it is kinda growing on me. Bringing in a guy even though he has no experience managing but was part of a very successful organization in NY and Cincy doesnt make the idea seem that outrageous.

[Matt700wlw]

Me. I'll do it, and cheaply :)

[redsmetz]

Who do you want as the next manager?

http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/jesus_baseball.jpg

I'm hoping this won't get me in trouble, but they'd crucify him too.

[GAC]

I find it interesting that no one, to the best of my knowledge, has talked Chris Speier up much.

[Beltway]

I'd love to get Joe Maddon somehow. I know that's about as likely as Cozart turning into Tulo. My next choice would someone like Brad Ausmus. I don't want an "old school" manager who values RBIs over stats like wOBA.

[dougdirt]

never took you as a Twilight Saga fan :)

I am not.

I do own Pitch Perfect though. Judge away.

[badcontent]

I'm hoping this won't get me in trouble, but they'd crucify him too.
Thanks for the laugh. I know I would.

[George Anderson]

I'm hoping this won't get me in trouble, but they'd crucify him too.

Rumor was JC was a candidate for manager a few years back but the facial hair policy at the time nixed it.

[Homer Bailey]

I am not.

I do own Pitch Perfect though. Judge away.

Fantastic movie.

[Red in Chicago]

I find it interesting that no one, to the best of my knowledge, has talked Chris Speier up much.

why should they?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Right now I'm leaning towards Ausmus. I want someone either from the minors or from outside the organization. Not a retread. After Ausmus, I'd lean towards either Sweet or Deshields. But I'd be fine with Price too...just not my first choice. I'd much rather he stay on as pitching coach.

[757690]

I am not.

I do own Pitch Perfect though. Judge away.

I have a new found respect for you :thumbup:

[OneManBand]

I'm W/ Monds.. I vote for Dave Martinez

[oregonred]

From the list Martinez or Price. I'd interview Larkin and O'Neill as well even though I thought either one was a crazy idea when first mentioned. If Rolen was interested, that would be intriguing.

Someone else will emerge on the scene. This is going to be a thorough search by Walt.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I am a big fan of Anna Kendrick.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/tuesday-dar-5.jpg

[VottoFan54]

I vote Dave Martinez, with Bryan Price as a distant second.

[Unassisted]

I find it interesting that no one, to the best of my knowledge, has talked Chris Speier up much.

Speier was supposedly one of Dusty's guys. If you liked Dusty, you'd likely get more of the same from Speier.

I voted P-Mac, even though I think the chance he gets considered is too small to be measured outside of a laboratory.

[MartyFan]

Perhaps he has different ideas on how to run a team than Dusty did.



IIRC, Mackanin re-signed with Philly. Of course if the Reds wanted him they could - and probably would - let him out of his deal.
Mack is a scout with the Yankees... I believe but he is my choice.

[Tom Servo]

^ No, he just signed on to be the 3rd base coach for Philly.


I like the guy alright, and wouldn't mind seeing him interview, but I still think people overrated him tremendously based on a 41-39 dead cat bounce. He wasn't any rocket scientist (he's the one who pretty much made BP the regular clean-up hitter) but he was better than Jerry Narron, and that's just not saying much.

[WMR]

The Cowboy, obv.

/poll

[BigPoppa]

I'd love to see Francona, but he's probably not an option.

I could get on board with Price, and I'd like to see Rolen back as hitting, or maybe bench, coach.

[cincinnati chili]

I am a big fan of Anna Kendrick.

She is collecting our souls. One by one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCV2zybQoI

[dougdirt]

She is collecting our souls. One by one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCV2zybQoI

Where do I sign up?

[redsrule2500]

Pete Mackanin is getting interest from the Mariners, according to multiple news sources yesterday. I feel like his management style was the best I've seen on the Reds, he should be successful anywhere he went.

If only Krivsky got his way, we wouldn't have been stuck w/ Baker the last 6 years.

[redsrule2500]

^ No, he just signed on to be the 3rd base coach for Philly.


I like the guy alright, and wouldn't mind seeing him interview, but I still think people overrated him tremendously based on a 41-39 dead cat bounce. He wasn't any rocket scientist (he's the one who pretty much made BP the regular clean-up hitter) but he was better than Jerry Narron, and that's just not saying much.


Brandon deserved to bat cleanup that year. And to take one of the worst teams in baseball and make them .500 for the remainder of the year (over 1/3rd of a season) is impressive. He seemed to pay more attention to stats, but I have no idea how he works as a clubhouse guy. He was the Phillies bench coach, though.

[Ironman92]

Pete Mackanin is getting interest from the Mariners, according to multiple news sources yesterday. I feel like his management style was the best I've seen on the Reds, he should be successful anywhere he went.

If only Krivsky got his way, we wouldn't have been stuck w/ Baker the last 6 years.

Pete McFreel? He's the one who had Ryan Freel leading off versus lefties because he was fast and right handed.....but the fact that he was something like 1/48 against lefties wasn't a factor.

[Norm Chortleton]

You could have saved yourself some typing by just putting "Bryan Price" and "other" as the choices. No one else on that list is a serious candidate.

[REDREAD]

Whitey Herzog said pretty much the same thing in his last book but didn't say anything about how he shortened Murphy's and Robinson's careers. He said that Pete would warm up two guys at the same time who pitched with the same arm instead of one of each. He also mentioned the constant warming up and sitting down.
.

Yea, I heard on a radio interview.. Someone asked Robinson why his career was so short.. Robinson had a lot of appearances under Pete. Robinson also said that there were many games where he warmed up and never got put in the game, and that took a toll on him too.

Murphy complained several times about how Pete used him. I remember one quote where he said Pete would warm him up and sit him down 3 times, then put him into a game. Pete would wonder why Murphy was gassed at that point.

I think Pete was a great judge of talent.. Example.. no one else saw the potential of Sabo.. Also one of the players (Maybe Eric Davis?) said that after Pete watched everyone, he told every player the type of career they would have, and was pretty much right.. Pete was also good with the position players and hitting.. He really could've used someone to manage the pitching staff for him though :lol: Although, partially in Pete's defense, middle relief was not a big investment area for clubs back then. Other clubs really didn't care about burning up bullpen arms either.. Nowdays, bullpen arms are handled with much more care than the 80's

[wolfboy]

Honestly, I'm hoping for this guy:

http://www.culturebully.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Kenny-Powers-K-Swiss-Tubes.jpg

He's not listed so I voted for Price.

[OneManBand]

I might actually be okay with Paul O'Niell. He has a firery attitude and he's been around the Yankees for what the past 20 years.. if anything he could provide great play by play from within the dugout.

[RedRoser]

Get Brad Ausmus. Now. Before someone else does!

[westofyou]

Get Brad Ausmus. Now. Before someone else does!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=neyer_rob&id=1577994



For example, Brad Ausmus felt like we should walk the eighth hitter most of the time, with the pitcher coming up next. As an ex-pitcher, I'd rather have the pitcher leading off the next inning. So Brad and I had different opinions a lot of the time. The eighth hitter would come up, he'd look into the dugout for the sign, I wouldn't do anything, and I could see that he wasn't real happy about it. I remember once, we retired the eighth hitter 10 or 15 times in a row. And then Kelly Stinnett reached out and slapped an outside pitch for an RBI single, and Ausmus was really mad.

[Redsfansince72]

whoever is hired BETTER be hiring a NEW hitting coach..

[westofyou]

Let's list great hitting coaches who changed the game.

I'll start

[TSJ55]

Let's list great hitting coaches who changed the game.

I'll start

You forgot to type in "Charley Lau".

[George Foster]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=neyer_rob&id=1577994

thank-you Westofyou for this article. I was never sold on Ausmus especially since the Astros passed on him...now I know why they passed on him.

[RedEye]

Dave Martinez. But Theo is going to get him, I think.

[westofyou]

You forgot to type in "Charley Lau".

He changed one teams approach for a few years, he's actually the best one out there.

Who today would be a Lau type of hitter?

[RollyInRaleigh]

I've read the book, "Lau's Laws on Hitting," and like and use a lot of his priciples in my own coaching.. Solid.

[RollyInRaleigh]

He changed one teams approach for a few years, he's actually the best one out there.

Who today would be a Lau type of hitter?

Adrian Gonzales.....great long extension through the ball.

[westofyou]

I've read the book, "Lau's Laws on Hitting," and like and use a lot of his priciples in my own coaching.. Solid.

I have seen it!

Lau died when he was around our age Randy, if not he might have really been etched in the games ethos.

Bets hitting coaches are low impact the way the game is played, high impact team approach. Most good ones are non descript and only affect a few on each team, talent is the key, cream rises to the top.

Get a good manager and he likely means more than the hitting coach four fold, thus hitting coach is the least my worry.

Not my team though.

[wheels]

Everyone's talking about the Ausmus stuff from that link, but the article goes on about how Larry Dierker is only 56 and would still love to manage.

I'd dance a jig if he got just an interview. I really like that guy.

[WVRedsFan]

Just a thought. Remembering Dave Miley, Bob Boone, and many others, I welcomed Dusty Baker with open arms, and you cannot dispute the record, given the past. That said, I could give a crap who comes next. I just want to get farther from the first round. The Cards continue to amaze regardless who they put out there. The Pirates were better than us because they had better players. I watched Molina take a leadership role tonight when Adams took a questionable call that I've never seen from the the Reds. Adams wanted to make an issue on a ball and strike call. When have you seen that from a Red? When we find that guy who can do that, we will win. That and a solid bench. It's up to Walt.

[Tom Servo]

Everyone's talking about the Ausmus stuff from that link, but the article goes on about how Larry Dierker is only 56 and would still love to manage.

I'd dance a jig if he got just an interview. I really like that guy.
Larry Dierker is 67.

[cincinnati chili]

thank-you Westofyou for this article. I was never sold on Ausmus especially since the Astros passed on him...now I know why they passed on him.

For the record, I always liked the idea of Dierker managing again, but I agree with Ausmus on this one. Most 8th batters should be walked to get to the pitcher with 2 outs and a runner in scoring position. Worrying about who will lead off the next inning should be secondary to getting past the threat of the current inning.

[wheels]

Larry Dierker is 67.

The article says he's 56. Ooops!

Heck, that's pretty close to Dusty's age, anyway.

You whippersnappers think life ends at fifty.:lol:

[RollyInRaleigh]

I have seen it!

Lau died when he was around our age Randy, if not he might have really been etched in the games ethos.

Bets hitting coaches are low impact the way the game is played, high impact team approach. Most good ones are non descript and only affect a few on each team, talent is the key, cream rises to the top.

Get a good manager and he likely means more than the hitting coach four fold, thus hitting coach is the least my worry.

Not my team though.

As a coach, I have never tried to force kids to do anything. You just have to carry yourself with confidence, observe a lot and know what you are seeing, and be ready to offer something of use when they ask or when they struggle. You have to make them know you have something they need and it better be good because kids are smarter than ever. If you can affect one or two kids in a positive manner to make the team better, you've done your job. You can't be their buddy and you can't be a dictator. You just have to know your stuff and be able to convey it to the player. Good coaches are not that prevalent. Lots of guys know the game. Few can teach it.

[Old NDN]

Upon further review, I change my vote to Matt Williams. But, looks like he's on the short list for the Nats.

[Puffy]

The article says he's 56. Ooops!

Heck, that's pretty close to Dusty's age, anyway.

You whippersnappers think life ends at fifty.:lol:

The article is from 2003.

Even at 67 I still vote for Larry Dierker. We could get a solid 6 to 8 years from him I think. Plus, if we are as close as I think we are a short term get you over the hump type might just be the ticket, IMO.

[Tom Servo]

More and more I am interested in Jose Oquendo, and this article from after La Russa retires adds to it


“My initial reaction (after learning of La Russa’s retirement) was, ‘It needs to be Jose Oquendo,’ ” Eckstein said. “When you played for Tony, you didn’t want to disappoint him. When I was playing infield for Jose, I didn’t want to disappoint him. I know how much he has put into this. . . . The guys love Jose. When I was there, I could tell they were grooming him to be the next manager if he stayed around.”

Eckstein dismissed any notion that Oquendo’s relationships with the players would hurt his ability to lead and impose discipline when necessary. In fact, Eckstein said Oquendo compares favorably to Joe Maddon and Ron Roenicke, who coached under Mike Scioscia while Eckstein was playing for the Angels. As managers, Maddon (Rays) and Roenicke (Brewers) led their teams to the postseason this year.

“He’s living and dying with you on every play,” Eckstein said of Oquendo. “He’s very well-respected in St. Louis, very well-respected by the players. He’ll make you play hard...I think he might be a little more aggressive (than Tony) in some ways. He loves to put guys in motion and play that kind of baseball — the kind that wins, year in and year out.”

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/hiring-jose-oquendo-as-manager-gives-cardinals-best-shot-at-albert-pujols-103111

[wheels]

The article is from 2003.

Even at 67 I still vote for Larry Dierker. We could get a solid 6 to 8 years from him I think. Plus, if we are as close as I think we are a short term get you over the hump type might just be the ticket, IMO.

Wow. 2003. Had no idea. I do know I wanna find his book.

He's probably given up on managing again, but I can't understand why he was overlooked. He was brilliant.

[SweetLou1990]

More and more I am interested in Jose Oquendo, and this article from after La Russa retires adds to it



http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/hiring-jose-oquendo-as-manager-gives-cardinals-best-shot-at-albert-pujols-103111

That would fall in line w/ what Walt usually does.