Adrian Peterson loses his son

[MikeThierry]

Have any of you seen this story? There is a special place in hell for this piece of human filth.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9809579/adrian-peterson-son-dies-injuries-suffered-alleged-assault

[5TimeWSChamps]

"Son"

He has 4 kids with 4 different women and is in none of their lives.

Words can't express how awful I feel for the child, and how the monster responsible should get what's coming to him.

But spare me the #PrayforAP BS that's all over twitter.

[texasdave]

R.I.P.

[The Operator]

There is indeed a special place in hell for someone who would do that.

RIP to the little guy.

[Patrick Bateman]

"Son"

He has 4 kids with 4 different women and is in none of their lives.

Words can't express how awful I feel for the child, and how the monster responsible should get what's coming to him.

But spare me the #PrayforAP BS that's all over twitter.

You're probably right.

But you also have zero idea AP's effect on this kids life. Your comment is no better than those in the twitter world.

Then again, a thousand things happen like this everyday that are just as awful. The fact that this might have potentially ruined a few guys' fantasy lineups this week that generated a lot of buzz and articles is pretty disgusting.

It doesnt even deserved to be discussed.

[5TimeWSChamps]

You're probably right.

But you also have zero idea AP's effect on this kids life. Your comment is no better than those in the twitter world.

Then again, a thousand things happen like this everyday that are just as awful. The fact that this might have potentially ruined a few guys' fantasy lineups this week that generated a lot of buzz and articles is pretty disgusting.

It doesnt even deserved to be discussed.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Peterson-I-Will-Be-Playing-Sunday/04652f86-14f7-4088-a7e2-c6ee8b0f39a7

Is that really the response of someone who had any sort of relationship with his son?

[Patrick Bateman]

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Peterson-I-Will-Be-Playing-Sunday/04652f86-14f7-4088-a7e2-c6ee8b0f39a7

Is that really the response of someone who had any sort of relationship with his son?

People deal with stuff in different ways.

I find it ridiculous that this get discussed. There's a thousand cases like this every day. AP is no worse, no better than lots out there.

AP isn't the issue here. We don't know what his responsibility is with this child. Maybe the mom doesn't want him around. I'm not praying for AP, I'm also not deriding him for a situation I know nothing about. I also don't care because discussing the inane lives of athletes is inane.

[New York Red]

People deal with stuff in different ways.

I find it ridiculous that this get discussed. There's a thousand cases like this every day. AP is no worse, no better than lots out there.

AP isn't the issue here. We don't know what his responsibility is with this child. Maybe the mom doesn't want him around. I'm not praying for AP, I'm also not deriding him for a situation I know nothing about. I also don't care because discussing the inane lives of athletes is inane.
I've read that Adrian Peterson had never even met this child. That's all I need to know about Adrian Peterson. I'm a single father raising two kids on my own, and have zero respect for deadbeat dads. This story should be about a child tragically dying, and not about some football hero who used a child's death to suddenly claim the role of a father. The fact that Adrian Peterson is getting prayers and sympathy is pathetic.

[New York Red]

"Son"

He has 4 kids with 4 different women and is in none of their lives.

Words can't express how awful I feel for the child, and how the monster responsible should get what's coming to him.

But spare me the #PrayforAP BS that's all over twitter.
Thank you.

[Betterread]

AD is not making a big deal out of this, the media is.

The first time Adrian Peterson (AD) ever saw his son in person was when he was on life support, laying in a hospital bed.

AD only found out he had another son about three months ago.
That was when the child’s mother, Ann Doohen, contacted AD about the paternity of her child.

AD accepted paternity responsibility and was reportedly making plans to make his first visit to Sioux Falls in late October, so that he could spend time with the child and be a present father to him.

I can only imagine his anguish.

[Wonderful Monds]

I wish 95% of this thread could not have happened. A few of you should be ashamed.

[New York Red]

I wish 95% of this thread could not have happened. A few of you should be ashamed.
Why?

[5TimeWSChamps]

Why?

x2

[MWM]

Why?

Because a child has died and a couple of people have used it as a platform to judge a guy like AP without knowing all the facts. But it's a common theme with you. You're always sitting there happy to stand in harsh judgement of people without knowing the facts. You're the same one who called Pacman Jones a piece of garbage as soon as it was mentioned that he was cited after the Packers game. Must be nice being perfect. That pitch fork of yours seems to get a lot of use.

[New York Red]

Because a child has died and a couple of people have used it as a platform to judge a guy like AP without knowing all the facts. But it's a common theme with you. You're always sitting there happy to stand in harsh judgement of people without knowing the facts. You're the same one who called Pacman Jones a piece of garbage as soon as it was mentioned that he was cited after the Packers game. Must be nice being perfect. That pitch fork of yours seems to get a lot of use.
It seems you are the one using this thread to push an agenda that has nothing to do with the thread topic. This story is a tragedy in more than one way. Maybe if this child had a real man in his life, a man who would protect him from the garbage that did this to him, this could have been prevented. But obviously this child didn't have someone like that in his life.

And since YOU brought it up, my opinion of Pacman Jones was formed over a period of years, not just this last incident. I judge people on their character -- especially men -- not because they are, or were, a sports celebrity. The child in this story should be getting 100% of the sympathy, not some star running back who ignored the fact the child even existed.

Nice job of hijacking the thread.

[MWM]

The reports I read are that AP did not even know about this kid until 3 months ago. When the mother told him, he didn't question her and asked how he could help. He then made plans to meet the child soon so he could be a part of his life. Now I don't know what the truth actually is, but that's a far cry from what you have portrayed. But judge away if it makes you feel better.

[New York Red]

The reports I read are that AP did not even know about this kid until 3 months ago. When the mother told him, he didn't question her and asked how he could help. He then made plans to meet the child soon so he could be a part of his life. Now I don't know what the truth actually is, but that's a far cry from what you have portrayed. But judge away if it makes you feel better.
Hey, man, I'll keep giving my opinion of the thread topic, based on numerous things I've read, and you can keep going after me. Classy stuff.

[Roy Tucker]

A child died because of abuse. That's always a tragedy. Kids don't get to pick their parents and caretakers. They have to trust the ones that are there. They have no choice. Sometimes, they also have no chance.

[Wonderful Monds]

Hey, man, I'll keep giving my opinion of the thread topic, based on numerous things I've read, and you can keep going after me. Classy stuff.

are you kidding me

[The Operator]

Alright folks, let's not have this turn into a personal bickering match.


A child is dead. No need to let our own personal differences get in the way of paying our respects and expressing sympathy.

[MikeThierry]

Yikes.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0POMQQ6oY

[Slyder]

This is all I have to say about this.

http://http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=607176425995716&set=a.333078710072157.76242.332968243416537&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=607176425995716&set=a.333078710072157.76242.332968243416537&type=1&theater)

[bucksfan2]

I wondered what kind of relationship that Peterson had with his son. After reading this thread I can start to form a picture. I wondered when the story came out what impact AP would have had if he played a "father" roll in this child's life.

Its heartbreaking to read a story about a kid beaten to death by an adult. Its also sad to find out that someone had a son of 2 years old who he had never been involved with. I look at my daughter and just think why? Why all the way around.

[MWM]

Its heartbreaking to read a story about a kid beaten to death by an adult. Its also sad to find out that someone had a son of 2 years old who he had never been involved with. I look at my daughter and just think why? Why all the way around.

He didn't know about this son until 3 months ago.

[5TimeWSChamps]

http://nypost.com/2013/10/13/sons-death-doesnt-make-adrian-peterson-a-great-person/?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

[New York Red]

http://nypost.com/2013/10/13/sons-death-doesnt-make-adrian-peterson-a-great-person/?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

What a guy!

[The Operator]

http://nypost.com/2013/10/13/sons-death-doesnt-make-adrian-peterson-a-great-person/?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpostI'm not trying to say AP is some saint but that article was a drive-by hack job.

Throwing around terms like "baby mama" left and right and completely ignoring the fact that AP didn't know the kid even existed for a majority of the child's life while chastising him for not providing a better life is pretty weak.

[dougdirt]

I'm not trying to say AP is some saint but that article was a drive-by hack job.

Throwing around terms like "baby mama" left and right and completely ignoring the fact that AP didn't know the kid even existed for a majority of the child's life while chastising him for not providing a better life is pretty weak.

It was the NY Post......

[Sea Ray]

I'm not trying to say AP is some saint but that article was a drive-by hack job.

Throwing around terms like "baby mama" left and right and completely ignoring the fact that AP didn't know the kid even existed for a majority of the child's life while chastising him for not providing a better life is pretty weak.

Baby Mama refers to his behavior before the kid was born. It's irresponsible to go around having unprotected sex with so many women because pregnancies can and do result. When that happens it's the kids that suffer. That's exactly what happened here

[*BaseClogger*]

The part I don't understand is how not knowing you have a child is some sort of excuse?

[New York Red]

The people making excuses for AP are the people who place professional athletes on a pedestal, regardless of their character. If we were talking about the same scenario, but with some unheard of nobody instead of a star running back, no one would be defending his behavior.

[dougdirt]

The part I don't understand is how not knowing you have a child is some sort of excuse?

An excuse for what?

[Sea Ray]

The part I don't understand is how not knowing you have a child is some sort of excuse?

Excuse for what? I'm not sure I'm following you. My point is that it's different for him losing that son than if he'd have lost Adrian Jr who's also 2.

[IslandRed]

A few comments, directed at no one in particular:

1. I'm not a fan of Adrian Peterson.
2. I don't approve of the have-kids-out-of-wedlock culture.
3. I don't do the hero-worship thing.
4. I especially don't think it's some heroic thing to play football right after a tragedy, as opposed to other things like "be with your family."
5. Nonetheless, that was one of the worst articles I've ever read. Par for the course with Mushnick, apparently.

[MWM]

The people making excuses for AP are the people who place professional athletes on a pedestal, regardless of their character. If we were talking about the same scenario, but with some unheard of nobody instead of a star running back, no one would be defending his behavior.

You seem to know a lot about people you don't know. I am anything but what you describe, and I'm not making excuses for him. But there's little that's known publicly about the situation. I'm not a judge first, ask questions later. Who knows, AP may be a bad guy. He may not be. But there's certainly nothing that's been reported from this situation that would make me conclude he's a bad human being.

[Betterread]

I don't understand the judgmental tone. It is fairly obvious that AD is figuring out how to be a good father - and he is still working on it. He did not have an easy example from his father to follow.
But I know that being a father is difficult for a lot of men. I see a lot of kids (especially boys) my son's age (5) who are not close to dads who are distant emotionally, or travel a lot or just don't spend a lot of time with their family. Our country is full of kids whose fathers were distant or even non-existent when they were young. It is not something to judge, it is a sad fact of life in the USA.

(quote from Smoke signals by Sherman Alexie)

How do we forgive our fathers, maybe in a dream?
Do we forgive our fathers for leaving us to often, or forever, when we were little?
Maybe for scaring us with unexpected rage, or making us nervous, because there never seemed to be any rage there at all.
Do we forgive our fathers for marrying, or not marrying our mothers, for divorcing, or not divorcing our mothers?
And shall we forgive them for their excesses of warmth or coldness?
Shall we forgive them for pushing or leaning, for shutting doors, for speaking through walls, or never speaking, or never being silent?

Do we forgive our fathers in our age or in theirs?
Or in their deaths, saying it to them, or not saying it?
If we forgive our fathers what is left?

[New York Red]

You seem to know a lot about people you don't know. I am anything but what you describe, and I'm not making excuses for him. But there's little that's known publicly about the situation. I'm not a judge first, ask questions later. Who knows, AP may be a bad guy. He may not be. But there's certainly nothing that's been reported from this situation that would make me conclude he's a bad human being.
I wasn't referring to you, or any one person in particular, but what I see all the time on message boards.

Just in the past couple months ... when Michael Porter was sentenced to prison for statutory rape, I saw a couple UK fans defend him by saying the 14-year old girl "should have known better". When Deandre Liggins was charged with seven felonies for beating his girlfriend in front of their child, some posters excused it as him just making "a mistake and needing to learn from it". When Pac Man Jones had his latest run-in with the police, it was excused because he wasn't actually arrested this time. In all of these cases, if it was Joe Schmo instead of an athlete, no one would be defending them or making excuses for them.

I'm seeing the same excuse-making for Adrian Peterson, just because he's Adrian Peterson. I've raised my kids on my own, without their mom in the picture. I take parenting seriously and have zero respect for fathers who don't. The first couple days, I saw hundreds of tweets from people sympathizing with Adrian Peterson, but far fewer tweets about the child who died. Funny how all those sympathizing with AP have disappeared now that the rest of the story has come out.

As for the judging first, asking questions later thing, it's not that at all. It's just having an opinion. In some cases the picture is pretty clear right away. When it isn't clear, I wait to form an opinion.

[*BaseClogger*]

A few comments, directed at no one in particular:

1. I'm not a fan of Adrian Peterson.
2. I don't approve of the have-kids-out-of-wedlock culture.
3. I don't do the hero-worship thing.
4. I especially don't think it's some heroic thing to play football right after a tragedy, as opposed to other things like "be with your family."
5. Nonetheless, that was one of the worst articles I've ever read. Par for the course with Mushnick, apparently.

This is exactly where I am as well. Thanks for having the perfect words, as always, IslandRed.

For those who asked, by excuse I meant I do not understand why Peterson is free from all responsibility for the child simply because he didn't know it existed...

[Chip R]

For those who asked, by excuse I meant I do not understand why Peterson is free from all responsibility for the child simply because he didn't know it existed...

So he should have been paying child support to a woman who, unbeknownst to him, had his child? Does that mean every time a guy has sex with a woman he should start paying her child support just in case he gets her pregnant? :confused:

[RedFanAlways1966]

I think AP oughta buy stronger condoms or perhaps just use condoms. Maybe he is too young to know about a once famous hoops player named Magic Johnson, a once known NASCAR driver named Tim Richmond or former WBO heavyweight boxing champion Tommy Morrison. Or maybe AP does not care and is letting the wrong part of his body do the thinking (ding-ding!).

[*BaseClogger*]

So he should have been paying child support to a woman who, unbeknownst to him, had his child? Does that mean every time a guy has sex with a woman he should start paying her child support just in case he gets her pregnant? :confused:

There are consequences of unprotected sex. I have no moral qualms with one night stands, but I do have a problem with athletes who have children all over the country and are completely unaware of their existence...

[Chip R]

I think AP oughta buy stronger condoms or perhaps just use condoms. Maybe he is too young to know about a once famous hoops player named Magic Johnson, a once known NASCAR driver named Tim Richmond or former WBO heavyweight boxing champion Tommy Morrison. Or maybe AP does not care and is letting the wrong part of his body do the thinking (ding-ding!).

Or perhaps he was told by the child's mother that she was "safe" both from HIV and from getting pregnant and she either was mistaken or lied. Or the condom broke. Or birth control failed. It's easy to judge when you don't know the whole story. Why is Peterson any different than Joe Couchpotato who has several kids by women who aren't married to him? And why is it such a bad thing that he has fathered a couple of kids? If he's supporting them financially, he's living up to his responsibilities. Doesn't this woman deserve any blame for deciding to date the man who allegedly killed the child?


There are consequences of unprotected sex. I have no moral qualms with one night stands, but I do have a problem with athletes who have children all over the country and are completely unaware of their existence...

Of course there are but if they are unaware of the existence of these children, why should we have a problem with it?

[*BaseClogger*]

Or perhaps he was told by the child's mother that she was "safe" both from HIV and from getting pregnant and she either was mistaken or lied. Or the condom broke. Or birth control failed. It's easy to judge when you don't know the whole story. Why is Peterson any different than Joe Couchpotato who has several kids by women who aren't married to him? And why is it such a bad thing that he has fathered a couple of kids? If he's supporting them financially, he's living up to his responsibilities. Doesn't this woman deserve any blame for deciding to date the man who allegedly killed the child?



Of course there are but if they are unaware of the existence of these children, why should we have a problem with it?

Just gonna throw this out there: I'm a young guy so I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on this subject. I find it interesting and I might just learn some perspective. That said, here's what I'm thinking:

Doesn't a father have more responsibility to their child than just financial support?

AND

You are right that we do not know all of the facts, but for the sake of continuing this discussion since we will *never* have all of the facts about anything we discuss here on RedsZone, lets just assume this child was the result of unprotected sex. Is having unprotected sex with one night stands across the country responsible behavior that elicits no criticism?

[Chip R]

Just gonna throw this out there: I'm a young guy so I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on this subject. I find it interesting and I might just learn some perspective. That said, here's what I'm thinking:


Doesn't a father have more responsibility to their child than just financial support?

Perhaps but I suppose that's between the father, the mother and their child. Should someone like Peterson retire from football and spend all his time with his children? If he - or any other athlete - has more than one child and they reside in different states, how is he going to spend more time with those children and still have a career?




You are right that we do not know all of the facts, but for the sake of continuing this discussion since we will *never* have all of the facts about anything we discuss here on RedsZone, lets just assume this child was the result of unprotected sex. Is having unprotected sex with one night stands across the country responsible behavior that elicits no criticism?

If it was Joe Couchpotato and he was a friend of yours, would you have the same reaction? Or would you think he was some kind of stud? But going further than that, to some people - including those who are of the Catholic faith - protected sex is a sin. What is the greater sin, having unprotected sex or doing something that goes against your religious beliefs?

Also, how does having one night stands across the country hurt anyone? Doesn't the woman bear some responsibility as well? If she wasn't raped, it was ultimately her decision to have unprotected sex. Do men always have to be the ones responsible for birth control?

[New York Red]

Should someone like Peterson retire from football and spend all his time with his children? If he - or any other athlete - has more than one child and they reside in different states, how is he going to spend more time with those children and still have a career?
Wow.


If it was Joe Couchpotato and he was a friend of yours, would you have the same reaction? Or would you think he was some kind of stud? But going further than that, to some people - including those who are of the Catholic faith - protected sex is a sin. What is the greater sin, having unprotected sex or doing something that goes against your religious beliefs?
Just shaking my head.


Also, how does having one night stands across the country hurt anyone? Doesn't the woman bear some responsibility as well? If she wasn't raped, it was ultimately her decision to have unprotected sex. Do men always have to be the ones responsible for birth control?
Being a man involves being mature and responsible in a lot of ways. Whether it's Joe Schmo or Adrian Peterson, it's totally irresponsible to have kids in multiple states with multiple women, and completely inexcusable to have a child you've never met. He doesn't have the excuse of working a 9-5 job, not being able to get a day off, or not having the finances to visit the child. He knew about this kid for three months and made no effort to even meet him.

It's ridiculous for anyone to try to excuse this kind of behavior, whether it's Joe Schmo or Adrian Peterson. And yes, the women involved are just as guilty as the "men" are -- not that I consider anyone in this story a real man. I wonder how many of you guys making excuses for Adrian Peterson, are fathers yourselves?

[IslandRed]

Following up on my earlier post:

As most of us do, I know people who have kids but aren't around them anymore or haven't been much of a parent all along. If one of those kids dies, then -- assuming I don't already know the parents killed the kid themselves -- I'll express my sympathies to the parents because it's the decent thing to do. It doesn't mean I approve of their parenting skills. It doesn't even mean I like them. And I'm sure not going to put them through a vetting process to determine if they're deserving of receiving human kindness. A child died, and that's reason enough. If the sympathies are wasted on the parents, that's their cross to bear.

That is why I took issue with the Mushnick article, written how it was and when it was. My mom would kick my rear end for being that much of a jerk just as surely as she would have kicked it for having multiple children out of wedlock.

[wolfboy]

Wow.


Just shaking my head.


Being a man involves being mature and responsible in a lot of ways. Whether it's Joe Schmo or Adrian Peterson, it's totally irresponsible to have kids in multiple states with multiple women, and completely inexcusable to have a child you've never met. He doesn't have the excuse of working a 9-5 job, not being able to get a day off, or not having the finances to visit the child. He knew about this kid for three months and made no effort to even meet him.

It's ridiculous for anyone to try to excuse this kind of behavior, whether it's Joe Schmo or Adrian Peterson. And yes, the women involved are just as guilty as the "men" are -- not that I consider anyone in this story a real man. I wonder how many of you guys making excuses for Adrian Peterson, are fathers yourselves?

But didn't he make an effort to meet him? He'd planned to visit him within the next few months, and he was with him in the hospital. Again, Peterson is clearly no saint in this, but he didn't even know about the kid until just recently. In fact, IIRC, the baby mama had a paternity suit against another man.

And before you engage in any ad hominem attacks, please be aware of the following: (i) I am a father (and a pretty good one); and, (ii) my father walked out on me when I was a young kid and never came back.

[New York Red]

But didn't he make an effort to meet him? He'd planned to visit him within the next few months, and he was with him in the hospital. Again, Peterson is clearly no saint in this, but he didn't even know about the kid until just recently. In fact, IIRC, the baby mama had a paternity suit against another man.

And before you engage in any ad hominem attacks, please be aware of the following: (i) I am a father (and a pretty good one); and, (ii) my father walked out on me when I was a young kid and never came back.
I wasn't singling anyone out. I'm also a father (a good one) and my dad also walked out on me at an early age. I still think Peterson had opportunities to meet this child, even if it was just three months. See my previous reasons.

[Dom Heffner]

Baby Mama refers to his behavior before the kid was born. It's irresponsible to go around having unprotected sex with so many women because pregnancies can and do result. When that happens it's the kids that suffer. That's exactly what happened here

You never cease to amaze....

One day you'll get what you deserve through your own negligence and we can all play up on a pedestal in a thread on Redszone....

Perhaps this woman was drunk, therefore AP didn't need a condom....

[*BaseClogger*]

You never cease to amaze....

One day you'll get what you deserve through your own negligence and we can all play up on a pedestal in a thread on Redszone....

Perhaps this woman was drunk, therefore AP didn't need a condom....

There's a difference between playing "up on a pedestal" and talking about doing the right thing. In this case, I think you have confused the two...

[Dom Heffner]

There's a difference between playing "up on a pedestal" and talking about doing the right thing. In this case, I think you have confused the two...

I know...because everytime you've had sex you've worn a condom.

Actually- I'll bet you've never had premarital sex in your life. Because that's the right thing to do.

[*BaseClogger*]

I know...because everytime you've had sex you've worn a condom.

Actually- I'll bet you've never had premarital sex in your life. Because that's the right thing to do.

I only do what the good Lord tells me to do!:thumbup:

[Sea Ray]

You never cease to amaze....

One day you'll get what you deserve through your own negligence and we can all play up on a pedestal in a thread on Redszone....

Perhaps this woman was drunk, therefore AP didn't need a condom....

Why must you always make things so personal on RZ? Your first 2 sentences were completely unnecessary.

If I ever "got what I deserve" why would I announce it on the internet?

[wolfboy]

Why must you always make things so personal on RZ? Your first 2 sentences were completely unnecessary.

If I ever "got what I deserve" why would I announce it on the internet?

Maybe you deserve a delicious turkey sandwich. You could announce to the internet how delicious it is. That's why they made twitter, right?

[Sea Ray]

Maybe you deserve a delicious turkey sandwich. You could announce to the internet how delicious it is. That's why they made twitter, right?

Have no idea. Don't do Twitter, FB, etc...but I sure wouldn't annouce on RZ those sorts of personal issues

[Revering4Blue]

Have no idea. Don't do Twitter, FB, etc...but I sure wouldn't annouce on RZ those sorts of personal issues

Wow. I thought that I was the only one eschewing the, IMO, aforementioned wastes of time and energy.

:beerme:

[wolfboy]

Have no idea. Don't do Twitter, FB, etc...but I sure wouldn't annouce on RZ those sorts of personal issues


C'mon, is a tasty turkey sandwich really a personal issue? I mean, you've divulged a road map to your political/moral belief system, but you don't want to talk about a sandwich?

[Sea Ray]

C'mon, is a tasty turkey sandwich really a personal issue? I mean, you've divulged a road map to your political/moral belief system, but you don't want to talk about a sandwich?

I'll talk food, sure.

I've found a sub sandwich shop that makes one that I can't down in one sitting. Bella's is a new place out here and they have a 14" that has kicked my butt twice now. Anyone familiar with this chain?

[Sea Ray]

Wow. I thought that I was the only one eschewing the, IMO, aforementioned wastes of time and energy.

:beerme:

I have enough personal vices/guilty pleasures. I don't need any more

[*BaseClogger*]

I dunno about turkey, but I could go for a roast beef sandwich right about now...

[Revering4Blue]

I dunno about turkey, but I could go for a roast beef sandwich right about now...

Now you're talking.

I'd rather walk a gangplank over shark-infested waters than eat any kind of poultry.

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[wolfboy]

Now you're talking.

I'd rather walk a gangplank over shark-infested waters than eat any kind of poultry.

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You can't just end a thread hi-jack like that. I'll admit chicken isn't my favorite, but no poultry at all? No barbequed chicken or fried chicken even? No Thanksgiving turkey?

[Revering4Blue]

You can't just end a thread hi-jack like that. I'll admit chicken isn't my favorite, but no poultry at all? No barbequed chicken or fried chicken even? No Thanksgiving turkey?

None, whatsoever. And if that weren't enough, with the exception of chips and thin, crispy fries, no potato, either.

Ham or Ham Loaf for me on Thanksgiving.

[Boston Red]

None, whatsoever. And if that weren't enough, with the exception of chips and thin, crispy fries, no potato, either.

Ham or Ham Loaf for me on Thanksgiving.

I think this is crazy. But you do eat pig, so you're not a complete lost cause.

[WMR]

Now you're talking.

I'd rather walk a gangplank over shark-infested waters than eat any kind of poultry.

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Get this poor soul into counseling, immediately!

[*BaseClogger*]

I find his opinions strange, but not completely unsettling.

Now, for those people who don't like beef hamburgers, those people I don't trust...

[Dom Heffner]

Why must you always make things so personal on RZ? Your first 2 sentences were completely unnecessary.

If I ever "got what I deserve" why would I announce it on the internet?

Oh, I know...you're a saint of a poster. The winner of several popularity contests on here lol....

[OldRightHander]

I find his opinions strange, but not completely unsettling.

Now, for those people who don't like beef hamburgers, those people I don't trust...

How many of those people can there be? Maybe 2?

[wolfboy]

How many of those people can there be? Maybe 2?

Hitler was a vegetarian. He didn't like beef hamburgers.

[westofyou]

You can't just end a thread hi-jack like that. I'll admit chicken isn't my favorite, but no poultry at all? No barbequed chicken or fried chicken even? No Thanksgiving turkey?

Nothing that has eyes for me

[BillDoran]

Nothing that has eyes for me

Oysters? Mussels?

Not that I have a problem with it, but it's hard to fathom how a thread titled "Adrian Peterson loses his son" has devolved into a discussion on the sanctity of burgers.

[wolfboy]

Oysters? Mussels?

Not that I have a problem with it, but it's hard to fathom how a thread titled "Adrian Peterson loses his son" has devolved into a discussion on the sanctity of burgers.


I take full responsibility. I willfully and maliciously diverted the conversation away from dead beat dads to turkey sandwiches. That in turn led to a discussion over all beef patties. Judge me if you must.

[westofyou]

Oysters? Mussels?

Not that I have a problem with it, but it's hard to fathom how a thread titled "Adrian Peterson loses his son" has devolved into a discussion on the sanctity of burgers.

Sea snot no

[*BaseClogger*]

Yeah but cheeseburgers are fine because they don't have eyes, right? RIGHT!?!?

[*BaseClogger*]

Hot dogs, on the other hand, I cannot guarantee contain no eyes...

[Chip R]

Nothing that has eyes for me

Taters have eyes.