2013-2014 Dayton Flyers

[Ohayou]

Will be at UD Arena tomorrow to catch the Flyers take on Indiana Purdue Fort Wayne.

That's right, all three of them.

[dabvu2498]

Mastodons!

[BillDoran]

Ugh.

[Ohayou]

For those who haven't seen it yet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8UpspGCR6Y

[BillDoran]

Big win against former Flyer coach Brian Gregory, in Atlanta to boot.

Pierre wasn't much of a factor with early foul trouble, they hoisted a ton of 3s (not particularly effectively) and got out rebounded, but won going away.

Hard to get a good read on the team thus far. Pierre, Sibert and Sanford look like difference makers in the A10. Oliver has been a spectacular jack-of-all-trades.

Gonzaga up next. Should get a better understanding where they stand playing Few's Dogs.

[Boston Red]

How did Gregory get that job at Georgia Tech? He was awful at Dayton, so it stood to reason that he'd be awful at Georgia Tech, too. I could have saved them a lot of money and four or five years of pain if they'd just asked.

[New York Red]

Though I grew up in a UK family, spent most of my childhood in Lexington, and attended UK, I'll always have a soft spot for UD. When my dad's military career ended in 1965, he took a job with Frigidaire and we moved from Fort Hood, TX to Middletown, OH for a year, and then to Germantown, OH for a few years. As a sports loving family we watched basketball games on TV when available (I'm thinking it was Channels 19 & 5 back in those days?), but my first live games were at UD Arena. I'll never forget walking through the doors the first time and looking down at that giant arena. It was one of those moments that feel like yesterday, even though I'm 50 now. I don't remember any other details, but I do remember names like Don May (the first year I got to go) and Donald Smith (the last year we lived in that area and attended UD games). If I live to be 100 years old, I'll still have a soft spot for UD basketball and Don Donoher. My dream national championship game every year is UK vs UD. Go Cats! and Go Flyers!

[medford]

How did Gregory get that job at Georgia Tech? He was awful at Dayton, so it stood to reason that he'd be awful at Georgia Tech, too. I could have saved them a lot of money and four or five years of pain if they'd just asked.

Gregory wasn't awful; certainly not as successful as UD fans would have liked, but he wasn't awful.

At the time, GTech was going to owe a lot of money to Paul Hewitt, heck they may still be paying him to not coach there, so they couldn't go with the big national names you see turn up every offseason. If things hadn't soured so much towards the end of BG's tenure, I'm not convinced that BG would have left. However, both sides needed a fresh start, BG needed a new place to sell his poor offense, solid defense, hard rebounding style, UD needed someone who wasn't stagnanting.

With all that said, BG was a great amasador for UD. He was highly active in the community, ran a clean program, kids graduated, 3 of his players have now played in the NBA w/ a 4th (searcy) that was an end of camp cut w/ the 76ers last season (don't know what he's doing now) so the level of player rose a bit since Purnell resurected the program from the Jim OBrien's ashes.

Tech was dealing with their own issues when the fired Hewitt, seems like they had player issues, team wasn't working hard, etc... From what I read heading into the game, seems like most fans are happy w/ the direction the team is taking. I doubt BG takes them to the top of the ACC, his prodical is middle of the road finishes in conference and decent OOC play. probably good enough to get him a few more seasons at Tech, but if they stagnant like his UD teams did, he'll be looking for work somewhere else.

[jimbo]

How did Gregory get that job at Georgia Tech? He was awful at Dayton, so it stood to reason that he'd be awful at Georgia Tech, too. I could have saved them a lot of money and four or five years of pain if they'd just asked.

Awful? Seriously? :confused:

[Boston Red]

2 NCAA Tournaments in 8 years is awful, yes. Particularly since he was actually a pretty good recruiter. The "highlight" of his time there was winning the tallest midget contest in his seventh year. (OK, the real highlight was knocking the stuffing out of Huggins' team in the NCAA Tournament, which was beautiful, but the NIT was #2).

[BillDoran]

Awful? Seriously? :confused:

Just a Xavier fan getting a jab in. Like medford said, nobody who was paying attention would call his time at UD "awful". Disappointing, sure.

[Ohayou]

VCU getting embarrassed in their own building.

[Boston Red]

VCU getting embarrassed in their own building.

VCU is playing in San Juan.

[Ohayou]

VCU getting embarrassed in San Juan.

[gilpdawg]

After looking turrible in the first half, the Flyers are up 4 on Gonzaga with 8 minutes left after opening up the second half with a 10-2 run to get back in it, because it was looking quite grim for a bit.

[gilpdawg]

And they won. 84-79. Nice win.

[RiverRat13]

Nice start by UD. I thought Arch was a good hire for the Flyers. Last year I lurked a couple of times on a UD board and was surprised by how little patience the fans had for Arch after only two years. Glad to see him doing well.

[RedTeamGo!]

Wow, Gonzaga is my 3rd favorite college bball team behind Dayton and Ohio State - did not think UD had a chance in this one. Fantastic win that will look good on the resume come tourney time.

[jimbo]

Great win for the Flyers. Probably the biggest since Archie arrived. Hopefully he finally has his players and system in place and this is just the beginning of good things to come.

It won't be any easier tonight with #18 Baylor.

[Boston Red]

Great win for Dayton. I hear people talk about Gonzaga being overrated every year, but the only thing they've ever done against my Muskies is kick our asses, so I'd be thrilled to have the win Dayton got yesterday.

I think Dayton beats Baylor. I haven't been impressed with Baylor yet on the young season, and I think Dayton is just a better team. That would be a nice back to back taking out the Zags and the Bears.

[medford]

Nice start by UD. I thought Arch was a good hire for the Flyers. Last year I lurked a couple of times on a UD board and was surprised by how little patience the fans had for Arch after only two years. Glad to see him doing well.

I think it was really an extension of the fustration many had w/ the end of the Gregory era. Fans got sick of doing good to great OOC, then finishing up 7-9 to 9-7 in conference play and missing out on the big dance. Archie didn't have a full roster either of his first two seasons, depth was a major factor. He also had to deal with the growing pains of a 1st time coach. UD fans were ready for something more, ready to climb another step or two above where BG had the program a few seasons ago.

This year's squad has a full complement of depth. Archie has grown as a coach and is making a lot of great adjustments in games, frankly he coached circles around BG in Atlanta. Never judge a fan bases' assessment of their coach based upon their message board. There were plenty of times random X fans wanted to run Sean Miller out of town, I see Gonzaga fans complaining about Few and look how much success he's had.

[Red Buckeye]

Flyers have a great team this year, but I still think it's a shame for the Dayton community that UD refuses to play home and homes with Wright State. They both have wonderful arenas and it was a great thing they had going.

The Gem City Jam was so much fun. It was something I looked forward to every season.

I can't think of many other cities that both have D1 basketball schools where the two teams don't play each other every year.

[Ohayou]

Ohio has always had a plethora of basketball talent. If only more of the local kids would stay put. Luke Kennard has Duke written all over him. Ugh...

[RedFanAlways1966]

I can't think of many other cities that both have D1 basketball schools where the two teams don't play each other every year.

Some of those other cities even have on-court brawls (zip 'em up!). ;)

[Boston Red]

Some of those other cities even have on-court brawls

Yeah, Duke and North Carolina have had some doozies over the years. Chapel Hill and Durham aren't quite the same city, but it's pretty close.

[dabvu2498]

Ohio has always had a plethora of basketball talent. If only more of the local kids would stay put. Luke Kennard has Duke written all over him. Ugh...


Doesn't sound like Kennard is going to Duke but your point is still well-taken. Think about all the Dayton area kids that have gone or are going to Michigan State.

[Ohayou]

Doesn't sound like Kennard is going to Duke but your point is still well-taken. Think about all the Dayton area kids that have gone or are going to Michigan State.

Duke, Kentucky, Michigan... boo. :thumbdown:

[RedTeamGo!]

Dayton has stretches where they miss a lot of easy shots

[Ohayou]

Christ, what a game.

[Ohayou]

This team has great depth.

And that dunk by Kyle Davis was awesome.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBfshiw3fcs

[medford]

Ranked #25 in today's AP poll, #31 in the coaches poll, 26 votes amongst those in the "others recieving votes" catagory.

[jimbo]

If anyone has an iPhone with siri, try asking her who her favorite men's college basketball team is.

[Ohayou]

Dayton pulls this crap every year.

[jimbo]

Dayton pulls this crap every year.

Defense, defense, defense. There is no excuse for your defense being inconsistent. It stems from a lack of focus and desire. You can't expect to give up 81 points on the road and win.

[Ohayou]

http://media2.giphy.com/media/vwu9UTwIwFr7G/giphy.gif

[BillDoran]

It's like a whole new, awful team from non-conference play.

Beginning to wonder if Archie has lost them. They're not even competing of late.

[RedTeamGo!]

When does Archie get canned? I am not saying he should, but it has been awhile since this team made the tourney (08-09). As a Dayton fan, I expect a tourney appearance every 2-3 seasons. The team started out so well this year, they just had to be solid in conference play. The last few weeks have been a joke. If the same happens next year, I think it might be time to move on.

[medford]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAj4DHLO1ow

[BillDoran]

Good grief. It keeps getting worse.

[jimbo]

Good grief. It keeps getting worse.

Can't see it getting much better this season. I wouldn't be so critical if they were giving maximum effort, but I think this team is underachieving and it begins with the coach.

I'm ok with giving Miller another season, but if next year is more of the same then the program will need a new direction.

[gilpdawg]

Brian Roberts had a nice game for the Pelicans tonight.

[BillDoran]

And we're good again!

Took care of the Bonnies in Olean (big shakes that is).

Soft spot in the schedule coming up with three or four very winnable games ahead (home versus Rhode Island and LaSalle, followed by contests at Duquesne and St. Joe's). Seems entirely plausible that this team could be 19-9 or even 20-8 preceding the March 5 death by asphyxiation in St. Louis.

Now that we've been afforded a hint of optimism, I fully expect Archie & co. to flush this season over the next two weeks.

[BillDoran]

:thumbup:

The Fighting Archies took down Rhode Island tonight in not particularly impressive fashion. Fortunately, wins and losses are integers and the team will be awarded one full victory. The Flyers move to 17-8 overall and 5-5 in conference.

One full week before the LaSalle Explorers enter the Decibel Dungeon. Onward.

[jimbo]

:thumbup:

The Fighting Archies took down Rhode Island tonight in not particularly impressive fashion. Fortunately, wins and losses are integers and the team will be awarded one full victory. The Flyers move to 17-8 overall and 5-5 in conference.

One full week before the LaSalle Explorers enter the Decibel Dungeon. Onward.

This four game winning streak has more to do with the level of competition they are playing than anything else. The last 4 games on the schedule will tell if this team is anything more than it was during the beginning of non-conference play.

I'm not holding my breath.

[BillDoran]

This four game winning streak has more to do with the level of competition they are playing than anything else. The last 4 games on the schedule will tell if this team is anything more than it was during the beginning of non-conference play.

I'm not holding my breath.

Holding your breath with this team could be hazardous to your health. To call the defense a sieve would be a insult to well-constructed sieves the world over.

I don't think anyone who's followed the Flyers this season have high hopes for the team, but there's still some excitement to be had and some slim hopes for a NCAA tourney bid. They'll more than likely be waxed by both UMass and St. Louis, but the other four remaining games (vs. LaSalle, at Duquense, at St. Joe's and vs. Richmond) could go either way. My expectations remain low, but with some consistent play (spurred by a hint of effort on D) and a run in the A10, the NCAA is a possibility.

What's probably most disconcerting is there isn't much reason for increased expectations for next year. Losing Oliver and Sanford will hurt, and save some previously unforeseen improvement from the sophomore class, it'll be the same helter-skelter productivity on offense coupled with no defense and a glaring lack of consistency from the bigs.

[BillDoran]

Stole a victory at the Consol Center over the feisty, but not particularly talented, Duquesne Dukes.

Steel yourself for a bumpy ride as we learn what the team is made up, closing the season with four top 50 RPI teams (@St. Joe's - 39, @St. Louis - 11, UMass - 13, Richmond - 47). The Flyers currently sit at 55 and are considered solidly on the bubble by tourney prognosticators.

As a long-time fan of the program, I've resolved myself to impending disappointment, but it should be an interesting watch over the next couple weeks, and we'll certainly learn something about Archie as a coach. Should be a fun close, especially considering where the program was four-to-six weeks ago.

[BillDoran]

Crushed by St. Joe's and that infernal ever-flapping bird (and their bald, squawking idiot of a coach). It never was a game. The Flyers were outclassed from the opening tipoff.

One victory and five losses against the top six teams in conference. Ahead, three games against top six teams. NIT or bust!

[jimbo]

Crushed by St. Joe's and that infernal ever-flapping bird (and their bald, squawking idiot of a coach). It never was a game. The Flyers were outclassed from the opening tipoff.

One victory and five losses against the top six teams in conference. Ahead, three games against top six teams. NIT or bust!

Too many Flyer fans got tricked into thinking this team had turned the corner during that 6 game winning streak, which had more to do with the level of competition they were playing.

This is the most frustrating Flyer team I can remember since the JOB years. The St. Joe's game was the epitome of the season. Non-existent defense, lack of urgency, lack of effort, and lack of toughness. Basically, the past three seasons of Archie.

[RedTeamGo!]

I thought Arche was going to turn the corner for this program. I thought wrong.

[jimbo]

Wow, biggest win of the season for the Flyers at St. Louis. I was seriously done with this team after the St. Joseph's debacle. I am so happy they have proven me wrong. They have won two huge must win games against top 20 RPI teams, and have one more at home against a good Richmond team. If they can win that one, I think this team is back on the good side of the bubble.

[RedTeamGo!]

According to CBSsports they were in the "last 5 in" before the StL win.

I am going to the Richmond game saturday - it's going to be really exciting, hope they don't deliver a letdown!

[jimbo]

According to CBSsports they were in the "last 5 in" before the StL win.

I am going to the Richmond game saturday - it's going to be really exciting, hope they don't deliver a letdown!

I'm not going to be able to make it. I hope the crowd can get the arena loud and rocking.

I saw that too, but I think they really needed that win last night. It gives them a little room for error now, but I'm still considering the Richmond game a must win. I want to watch Selection Sunday with anticipation of seeding, not praying for a spot.

[RedTeamGo!]

Flyers trying their absolute hardest to blow a 19 point halftime lead. 58-51 in the 2nd half with 14 mins left.

[jimbo]

I think regardless of what happens tomorrow, the Flyers are in.

[RedTeamGo!]

Yep should be a lock now

[Ohayou]

Wow. How did the ref not see that?

[jimbo]

What a hose job. Very Jordan-like push off.

Now we have to sweat it out on Sunday.

[BillDoran]

Tough loss. That was a pretty blatant push-off, even in real time. But them's the breaks sometimes, I suppose.

Pretty disappointed they couldn't get a better shot on their subsequent possession. The announcers called for it, Archie wanted it, yet they couldn't get a shot going toward the basket, especially painful knowing a make-good call was likely.

[Ohayou]

Oh snap?

[jimbo]

The very best part of watching UD come up on the screen next to Ohio State was hearing Clark Kellogg saying, "You can't duck em now Thad!"

[RedTeamGo!]

Haha, I didn't get a chance to watch the selection show - that is awesome that Kellogg said that.

One of the very rare times in my life I will ever actively root against OSU.

Go Flyers!

With that said: This is a really tough matchup for UD. The Flyers tend to live and die by the 3-pointer and the Buckeyes are one of, if not the best defenses against the 3 pointer. Craft is probably the best perimeter defender in the country.

[Ohayou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg1cdfrWG3U

[Boston Red]

I've got Dayton in my Warren Buffett billion dollar pool, so this is the rare occasion where I will root for the Flyers. Doesn't hurt that they're playing Ohio State, either.

Good start for Dayton.

[Kingspoint]

OHio State fouls the 3-pt shooter with a 2-pt lead and 30 seconds left.

[RedTeamGo!]

Wow, this is crazy.

[Kingspoint]

Wow, this is crazy.

What a layup!

Big morning of basketball for Ohio Basketball. Cincinnati playing right now.

Is March basketball not the best?

[Kingspoint]

Wow! What an upset.

One Billion Dollars on it's way to Boston...

[RedTeamGo!]

Flyers!!!

[dabvu2498]

That was great.

[cincrazy]

To any UD fans/alums, congrats! What a great game, and I'm glad UD got the chance to prove itself against OSU. I love Thad, but his stance on not scheduling in-state basketball games really bugs me. Good luck going forward!

[Falcon7]

To any UD fans/alums, congrats! What a great game, and I'm glad UD got the chance to prove itself against OSU. I love Thad, but his stance on not scheduling in-state basketball games really bugs me. Good luck going forward!

Great job UD, now just beat the Orange next. OSU did play OU this year.

[dabvu2498]

OSU did play OU this year.

They also played Walsh the last 4 years. :D

[Falcon7]

They also played Walsh the last 4 years. :D

Yea, in exhibition games.

[texasdave]

Flyers up 11-4 at nearly the midpoint of the first half.

[757690]

By the hair of their chinny chin chins.

On to the sweet sixteen :)

[Roy Tucker]

Funny, I remember that '84 Roosevelt Chapman-Ed Young team very well.

Congrats, Flyers!

[RedTeamGo!]

That.was.amazing.

Flyers!!!!

[Ohayou]

Sorry, I heard someone choking and found myself on this board. Is everyone okay?

What a win for Dayton, knowing they beat 2 opponents at once.

[Ohayou]

UD President and fans:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjYUWGzCMAAOAjl.jpg

Syracuse fans:

http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/fa70269cb29411e3b2f812327576b0a2_8.jpg

[Ohayou]

Archie Miller extended through 2018-2019.

[mdccclxix]

A belated congratulations to the Flyers. I love to see teams make a breakthrough. Glad they scalped OSU and Syracuse, both satisfying defeats!

[Ohayou]

Ohio has always had a plethora of basketball talent. If only more of the local kids would stay put. Luke Kennard has Duke written all over him. Ugh...

TRAITOR!!

[RedTeamGo!]

GOOOOOO DAYton FLYers!!!

[RedFanAlways1966]

Go U-D... let's go U-D! Make all those Browns fans (not me, just sayin') happy and beat Elway's alma mater.

[jimbo]

I have this feeling the Flyers are going to advance another round. A really exciting time for UD fans. I hope it's a new beginning.

We Are......UD!!!!

[Ohayou]

If UD advances, I'll be OMW to Memphis tomorrow morning.

[Boston Red]

Grudging congrats to you Flyer fans. It doesn't mean I'm happy about it, but it's hard to diminish two wins in three days over OSU and Syracuse in March. That doesn't mean I won't try, though. :)

[reds1869]

I echo Boston Red's comments. Congrats from Victory Parkway.

[Stray]

I'm a Bearcat fan bandwagoning the Flyers :beerme:

[dabvu2498]

If UD advances, I'll be OMW to Memphis tomorrow morning.

Drive safe.

[redhawkfish]

Congrats to the Flyers!:thumbup:

[RedTeamGo!]

that was ******* amazing.

[Kingspoint]

Congrats to Dayton and their fans!

[Wonderful Monds]

I'm a Bearcat fan bandwagoning the Flyers :beerme:

Count me in too.

[Ohayou]

Tree down, three to go.

[RedFanAlways1966]

I might be odd (hold the comments lol), but I am so nervous watching these UD games that I am not sure I enjoy it. I keep waiting for them to implode during each of these three games. As a lifelong UD basketball fan, I guess I have seen it happen too many times. I am not complaining. I think I need to Google up one of these Canadian pharmacies and get something that will relax my nerves during the game...

Go Dayton Flyyyyyy-ERS.

[RedTeamGo!]

Haha, after they beat OSU I stopped being nervous...I figured they didn't really have any business beating Syracuse so i am just enjoying the ride.

My favorite team has always been when I was a freshman at UD: Waleskowski, Hall, Finn, NATE GREEN! This team is so much fun to watch they may overtake that 2002-2003 team for me. This is just a special team and a special year. All we can do at this point is hop on the train and have fun with it.

[reds1869]

I might be odd (hold the comments lol), but I am so nervous watching these UD games that I am not sure I enjoy it. I keep waiting for them to implode during each of these three games. As a lifelong UD basketball fan, I guess I have seen it happen too many times. I am not complaining. I think I need to Google up one of these Canadian pharmacies and get something that will relax my nerves during the game.

Ha ha, I feel the same way watching Xavier in the tournament. I hate losing but when they are finally knocked off I feel myself relaxing a bit. Such is the life of fans in a win or go home sport.

[RedTeamGo!]

They put up a fight but in the end they couldn't rebound down the stretch and Florida hit some big shots.

Extremely proud of my Flyers. What a tourney!!!

[jimbo]

I couldn't be prouder of how this team came together at the perfect time and how they represented the university. A really great group of kids who have made lasting memories for an entire city and fan base.

I was really down on this team during conference play, and wasn't a big fan of Archie. I think part of it was that I had a certain level of mistrust of him. He never really revealed much of himself. I could never tell if he was truly embracing the Flyer tradition. He has really come out of his shell during this run, and it's good to hear how much he loves it at UD. It's unrealistic to think he'll make it a career at Dayton, but I hope we can hang onto him for at least a couple more seasons.

What a great ride. Hopefully, it's just the beginning.

[Ohayou]

Devin Oliver will join the Boston Celtics summer league team in Orlando.

[BillDoran]

Love the direction of the Flyer program. Recently, picked up two commits; Xeryius Williams, a 6'8" shooter from Huber Heights Wayne, and Ryan Mikesell, a 6'6" swingman from St. Henry. Archie & co. continue to bring in length (both Williams and Mikesell can play down the positional ladder, with reports suggesting Mikesell often does the ballhandling for his high school team). Love the flexibility of the regime's first three classes. Allows for all kinds of matchup problems in-conference and an ability to size up the bigger teams OOC. They've got one more scholarship available for the 2015 class. It'll be interesting to see which direction they go.