College Football Coaching Carousel 2013

[WVRed]

USC just hired Steve Sarkisian to replace Lane Killin. Looks like they're going to stay within the Pete Carroll family tree. Pretty underwhelming hire IMO.

[Sea Ray]

Most hires are underwhelming nowadays. There wasn't a home run out there. Bill Cowher wasn't going to leave his cushy broadcasters chair. My guess is most of the country thought Auburn's hire of Gus Malzahn was underwhelming at the time

[Revering4Blue]

Most hires are underwhelming nowadays. There wasn't a home run out there. Bill Cowher wasn't going to leave his cushy broadcasters chair. My guess is most of the country thought Auburn's hire of Gus Malzahn was underwhelming at the time

Neither was Jon Gruden.

[Sea Ray]

USC just hired Steve Sarkisian to replace Lane Killin. Looks like they're going to stay within the Pete Carroll family tree. Pretty underwhelming hire IMO.

I think he's done a good job at U Dub and is a good choice for USC

[KronoRed]

Lateral hire at best compred to just keeping Orgeron.

[19braves77]

Orgeron needs to strike while the skillets hot. He might have to take the Florida Atlantic job to prove Ole Miss was a fluke.

Grobe turned down higher profile jobs but after 10 years I guess it got old.

[dabvu2498]

Coach O is the definition of "not ready for prime time."

[WVRed]

Most hires are underwhelming nowadays. There wasn't a home run out there. Bill Cowher wasn't going to leave his cushy broadcasters chair. My guess is most of the country thought Auburn's hire of Gus Malzahn was underwhelming at the time

Anyone who follows the SEC knows that Malzahn ran that team, not Gene Chizik.

As for Sark, he's Lane Kiffin without the drama. I was expecting a departure from the Pete Carroll era, but I don't think there was really a big name out there.

If Ed Orgeron doesn't end up with a head coaching job, I wouldn't mind UK hiring him as an associate head coach to Stoops. Orgeron has the experience recruiting and coaching in the SEC and would be valuable, even if he was only in Lexington for a year or two.

[Revering4Blue]

A good site for coaching carousel rumors/news.

http://coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker

[Sea Ray]

Anyone who follows the SEC knows that Malzahn ran that team, not Gene Chizik.

As for Sark, he's Lane Kiffin without the drama. I was expecting a departure from the Pete Carroll era, but I don't think there was really a big name out there.

If Ed Orgeron doesn't end up with a head coaching job, I wouldn't mind UK hiring him as an associate head coach to Stoops. Orgeron has the experience recruiting and coaching in the SEC and would be valuable, even if he was only in Lexington for a year or two.

I think Sark is a very good choice. He's done a wonderful job at UW. I think USC will be pleased with him

[oregonred]

Sark may do well, but is a meh hire for USC.

With Florida, USC and Texas (most likely) having jobs filled for next season expect the floodgates to open at the next level of programs that would have had to compete with those plum jobs. Nebraska I am talking about you...

[*BaseClogger*]

Jay Bilas ‏@JayBilas 18h
USC hires a coach, under contract, from its league: http://es.pn/19dusJ9 No tampering, no sitting out a year...that's only for the players

[Sea Ray]

I'm sure USC got permission from UW to interview him. If not then he's got quite a scoop. Otherwise, there's nothing to see here

[*BaseClogger*]

I'm sure USC got permission from UW to interview him. If not then he's got quite a scoop. Otherwise, there's nothing to see here

That wasn't really the point...

[Sea Ray]

That wasn't really the point...

It's either tampering or it's not

[WMR]

Florida's not getting rid of Muschamp (this year).

Their AD Foley is playing a dangerous game... he could be run out of town with Muschamp if they have another season like this one.

Muschamp has gotta be one of the most stubborn men I've ever seen... his press conferences are almost always combative. Be really interested to see if he actually allows the UF offense to open up. Trying to play Bama style football with Florida athletes was a dumb idea from the start and I don't believe it was all the offensive coordinator's doing.

[Revering4Blue]

Florida's not getting rid of Muschamp (this year).

Their AD Foley is playing a dangerous game... he could be run out of town with Muschamp if they have another season like this one.

Muschamp has gotta be one of the most stubborn men I've ever seen... his press conferences are almost always combative. Be really interested to see if he actually allows the UF offense to open up. Trying to play Bama style football with Florida athletes was a dumb idea from the start and I don't believe it was all the offensive coordinator's doing.

Spot-on.

Boise State's offenses were very creative under Pease; it made no sense to go the conservative route with athletes far better than what Pease had to work with at Boise State.

[Roy Tucker]

JMO, but I think one of the points Bilas was making was coaches can go from school to school and don't have to sit out a year while student players do.

[Sea Ray]

JMO, but I think one of the points Bilas was making was coaches can go from school to school and don't have to sit out a year while student players do.

I think you're absolutely right. I think it should be harder to get out of these contracts especially before Bowl games

[*BaseClogger*]

JMO, but I think one of the points Bilas was making was coaches can go from school to school and don't have to sit out a year while student players do.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01428/bingo_1428487c.jpg

[WVRed]

Florida's not getting rid of Muschamp (this year).

Their AD Foley is playing a dangerous game... he could be run out of town with Muschamp if they have another season like this one.

Muschamp has gotta be one of the most stubborn men I've ever seen... his press conferences are almost always combative. Be really interested to see if he actually allows the UF offense to open up. Trying to play Bama style football with Florida athletes was a dumb idea from the start and I don't believe it was all the offensive coordinator's doing.

I really don't see anybody who could do better than Muschamp right now. There isn't an Urban Meyer in Utah type of coach available who is a home run hire.

This year, unless Saban leaves for Texas is going to be kinda meh. If that happens, I could see Alabama handing over the reins to Kirby Smart. Next year could have some big openings with Nebraska, Florida, and West Virginia possibly.

[KronoRed]

I really don't see anybody who could do better than Muschamp right now. There isn't an Urban Meyer in Utah type of coach available who is a home run hire.



That's the general thinking around Gator land to defend Foley, to me it's dead wrong, a bad coach is a bad coach and Muschamp is bad, I'd take any number of guys over him such as Franklin from vandy, Hudspeth from ull, DeRuyter at Fresno, Strong or even Fedrora from unc who a lot of people think will be the guy provided he bounces back next year.

[MWM]

Man I feel old. Sark was the QB at my school when I was a student.

[WVRed]

That's the general thinking around Gator land to defend Foley, to me it's dead wrong, a bad coach is a bad coach and Muschamp is bad, I'd take any number of guys over him such as Franklin from vandy, Hudspeth from ull, DeRuyter at Fresno, Strong or even Fedrora from unc who a lot of people think will be the guy provided he bounces back next year.

Completely forgot about Charlie Strong. Don't know if he would leave Louisville after turning down jobs last year but with Touchdown Teddy leaving it would be the perfect time to jump ship.

If that happens, dare I say Bobby Petrino back to Louisville?

[BuckeyeRed27]

Little bit more Saban to Texas rumors on the interwebs tonight

[oregonred]

The message boards are lit up with Saban to Texas tonight. Seems to be a lot of smoke.

When Saban leaves he leaves like a thief in the night - just ask MSU, LSU and Dolphin fans. Saban is still hated in the Miami market for the way he left the Dolphins (emphatically denying he was taking the Bama job until he was on the plane ride out of town). Not that he was a good coach in Miami as he pretty much sucked, but even here in the scam capital of America he was perceived as a complete slime ball. Not an easy thing to accomplish.

[Tom Servo]

Not that he was a good coach in Miami as he pretty much sucked, but even here in the scam capital of America he was perceived as a complete slime ball. Not an easy thing to accomplish.
I seem to recall he was pretty well regarded in his brief NFL stint. He took over a Miami team that had fallen flat on it's face the year before and led them to a surprising 9-7 record, though they did follow it up with a disappointing 6-10 year mostly caused by the incorrect assumption that 29 year old Daunte Culpepper hadn't just turned into a total pumpkin overnight.

[oregonred]

I seem to recall he was pretty well regarded in his brief NFL stint. He took over a Miami team that had fallen flat on it's face the year before and led them to a surprising 9-7 record, though they did follow it up with a disappointing 6-10 year mostly caused by the incorrect assumption that 29 year old Daunte Culpepper hadn't just turned into a total pumpkin overnight.

The Dolphins had some good seasons before Saban but fell apart the year before he was hired. To be fair his stay was so short he gets an incomplete although from what I remember the 2007 season was a grease fire given expectations and the Culpepper roller coaster. During Saban's stay was the famous Culpepper over Brees decision by the medical staff.

However he crossed Wayne Huizenga on the way out of Dodage, lying to him on several occassions that he was staying which pretty much makes him persona non grata down here.

[dabvu2498]

Gary Pinkel to UW?

[KronoRed]

Gary Pinkel to UW?

Seems like he would be trading down.

[oregonred]

Chris Petersen to UW. Great hire by the Huskies. I think they traded up with Petersen for Sark.

Really surprised Petersen took this gig over some others, but he obviously wanted to stay in the NorthWest. Historically UW is a top-3 job in the Pac 10/12, but that was before Stanford and Oregon planted themselves on the map.

Also, the Pac-12 now has the best group of coaches in the country. I don't think its even close now. (UW, ASU, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Wazzou). That is going to be a tough conference the next few years.

[Boston Red]

I thought Petersen might be thinking of moving on. Boise State had lost its swag the last couple of years. You'd hate to see him end up like Jim Grobe or Pat Hill.

I do feel bad for Boise, though. Of all the fans of all the teams I've encountered (2004 Liberty Bowl for me), they were, as a group, my favorites.

[oregonred]

I thought Petersen might be thinking of moving on. Boise State had lost its swag the last couple of years. You'd hate to see him end up like Jim Grobe or Pat Hill.

Agree the timing is right. Surprised this was the gig he took although UW historically is a great job. Petersen is going to have to recruit which is always the issue with the four isolated NorthWest schools.

The Pac-12 is going to be a bloodbath the next 3-4 seasons. Poor Colorado is going to continue being a doormat.

[*BaseClogger*]

Also, the Pac-12 now has the best group of coaches in the country. I don't think its even close now. (UW, ASU, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Wazzou). That is going to be a tough conference the next few years.

Don't forget Arizona and Rich Rod!

[oregonred]

Don't forget Arizona and Rich Rod!

Yeah, his system seems to be a good fit in the Desert.

Colorado and Cal better get it together soon or they are going to get beat like a drum over the next decade.

Pac-12 is seriously going to have a hard time getting a team into the 4-team playoff the next few seasons. Especially since they play a 9-game league schedule.

[*BaseClogger*]

You, uh... don't think you're overselling the Pac-12 just a little bit in this thread?

[oregonred]

Not really, they have a great lineup of coaches in place right now.

CFB is all about coaching.

The Pac-12's issue is recruiting. 12 teams essentially competing for California's bountiful talent. The rest of the Western Region is largely a dead-zone for recruiting.

[Revering4Blue]

I'll give Sonny Dykes a fighting chance; his offensive system is complex and requires players that, at this point, are largely missing from a Cal roster in which the previous regime ran a conservative offense. Recruiting is obviously going to be key in Berkeley, especially on defense, due to the fact that Dykes's pass-heavy offense can often times result in an over-worked defense.

Colorado, OTOH, is another story. McIntyre, IMO, is a quality coach, but I wonder how well he's going to be able to recruit against Pac 12 powers. IMO, from a competitive standpoint, Colorado would have been better served by remaining in the Big 12.

[New York Red]

You, uh... don't think you're overselling the Pac-12 just a little bit in this thread?
I'm not sure it's possible to oversell the coaching talent the PAC 12 has put together the last few years. It's quite impressive.

[MWM]

I think there's a lot of unproven coaches there. Mora is unproven in college and Petersen in unproven at a big time program (although I think he winds up being successful). Shaw is legit, but I think Rich Rod is massively over-rated as a head coach.

[New York Red]

I think there's a lot of unproven coaches there. Mora is unproven in college and Petersen in unproven at a big time program (although I think he winds up being successful). Shaw is legit, but I think Rich Rod is massively over-rated as a head coach.
Rich Rod did big things at West Virginia and has quickly turned around Arizona. He was handed basically zero talent at Michigan, but improved every year and left the program in good hands for Brady Hoke. How is he massively overrated?

[oregonred]

RichRod and his system was never a good fit for TSUN. Arizona appears to be a good fit. Mike Leach at Wazzu, RichRod at Arizona, Graham at ASU, Riley at OSU and Whittingham at Utah. That's a nice group outside the four Calif schools + UW/Oregon.

Mora is a high quality coach, UCLA needs to step up with the big boys on facilities and asst coaches.

Texas may very well look to the Pac-12 for its next coach after Mack Brown inevitably gets pushed out assuming they can't snare Saban.

[New York Red]

OK, what is TSUN? I've seen that on this site before, but have no clue what it is. I'm assuming it's an Ohio State/Michigan thing?

[oregonred]

A Wayne Woodrow Hayes classic...

That School Up North

[19braves77]

Not really, they have a great lineup of coaches in place right now.

CFB is all about coaching.

The Pac-12's issue is recruiting. 12 teams essentially competing for California's bountiful talent. The rest of the Western Region is largely a dead-zone for recruiting.

One thing I told Utah fans when I was living out there is get use to mediocre football with one ten win season every four years. The way BYU and Utah survived was keeping its athletes in state. It now getting looted by Colorado and Arizona with the remains going to Utah State now due to promised playing time.

[New York Red]

A Wayne Woodrow Hayes classic...

That School Up North
Good stuff. When I was in elementary school, our grade took a field trip to Ohio State. We met Woody Hayes and had lunch with Archie Griffin and Cornelius Greene. To this day, still one of the great sports days of my lifetime.

I remember being totally in awe of Cornelius Greene's afro. :confused:

[Tom Servo]

Saban to Texas sounds like a done deal.

[MWM]

Where are you hearing that?

[Tom Servo]

from rotoworld


The website Inside Texas reported on Thursday night that Alabama head coach Nick Saban will be announced as Longhorns' coach after the season.
We don't generally print rumors like this, but the Internet lit up with chatter over this report. There's been smoke surrounding the Saban-to-Texas rumors since The Associated Press reported that Saban's agent met with Longhorn regents in January. In a web chat on Thursday, an IT writer with the pen name Jesus Shuttlesworth told premium subscribers that he believes Mack Brown will announce his resignation before the team's season-ending banquet. The writer later added, "Chancellor at Bama says Saban to Texas. That's the big news." It's important to note that no other media outlet has substantiated this report, though SI.com reported on Friday that Brown's status as Longhorns head coach is "up in the air."

I just think there's way too much smoke here for there not to be fire.

[Tom Servo]

And now there are reports of Saban signing an extension with Alabama. Perhaps Jesus Shuttleworth should stick to trying to get that basketball scholarship...

Edit: The source on that is an Alabama message board, so who knows how accurate that is. I officially give up on trying to figure out the latest.

[MWM]

This is what happens in the social media age. You never know who to believe.

[Chip R]

North Dakota State's Craig Bohl has accepted the Wyoming job.

[Joseph]

North Dakota State's Craig Bohl has accepted the Wyoming job.

Changing the landscape of CFB one coaching vacancy at a time.

[Boston Red]

Boise grabbed former OC and current Arkansas State coach Bryan Harsin.

[oregonred]

Rumors have an OSU assistant as the likely BGSU choice. Fickell (I hope) or Stan Drayton.

Drayton also in the mix for the FAU gig which is likely to have an OSU connection as the President of FAU has OSU ties.

I can't see Fickell getting either of these gigs.

Meanwhile the Saban saga continues...

[Boston Red]

North Dakota State's Craig Bohl has accepted the Wyoming job.

I still cannot believe he took this job. Unless Saban goes to Texas, Wyoming is going to be the runaway winner of this year's coaching carousel.

[oregonred]

I think Bohl couldn't handle the bright lights of North Dakota State. A state with less population and a laid back mountain lifestyle may be more his style :laugh:

[Boston Red]

I think Nebraska should have canned Pelini and hired Bohl. That's more in line with the type of job I thought Bohl would be able to get given what he's done with the Bizen.

[Chip R]

I still cannot believe he took this job. Unless Saban goes to Texas, Wyoming is going to be the runaway winner of this year's coaching carousel.

Bohl said he's taken the program as far as they could go. Some believe that he was hinting that NDSU should move up to FBS and because they aren't, he's taking his talents to Laramie. Doubt if money is the issue since ND is flush with this new oil money. Perhaps, like Saban, he wants a new challenge.

[dabvu2498]

I knew nothing about Bohl til I googled him when he got the Wyoming job. In his 5th and 6th year, he went 5-6 and 3-8. If he did that at Nebraska (or maybe even Wyoming), he's probably out of a job.

[Boston Red]

I knew nothing about Bohl til I googled him when he got the Wyoming job. In his 5th and 6th year, he went 5-6 and 3-8. If he did that at Nebraska (or maybe even Wyoming), he's probably out of a job.

In his 4th and 5th years they went 10-1 and won national titles. In his 5th year they moved up from Division II to Division I-AA.

Wait, I have that wrong. The 6th year is when they joined the Missouri Valley for football. Still a huge transition, but not the one I thought it was.

[Boston Red]

Bohl said he's taken the program as far as they could go. Some believe that he was hinting that NDSU should move up to FBS and because they aren't, he's taking his talents to Laramie. Doubt if money is the issue since ND is flush with this new oil money. Perhaps, like Saban, he wants a new challenge.

I read that his NDSU salary was just over $200k, and the guy Wyoming just canned was making more than $1 million. So I think money probably was a big part of this.

[wolfboy]

In his 4th and 5th years they went 10-1 and won national titles. In his 5th year they moved up from Division II to Division I-AA.

Wait, I have that wrong. The 6th year is when they joined the Missouri Valley for football. Still a huge transition, but not the one I thought it was.

And let's not forget that we're talking about North Dakota State here. North Dakota isn't exactly bustling with urban activity. And try convincing a kid he should go there for school. Of course, that only adds to the confusion over the Wyoming job. Seems like it would have a lot of the same obstacles. :confused:

[dabvu2498]

In his 4th and 5th years they went 10-1 and won national titles. In his 5th year they moved up from Division II to Division I-AA.

Wait, I have that wrong. The 6th year is when they joined the Missouri Valley for football. Still a huge transition, but not the one I thought it was.

Learn something new every day. Hmm.

[Chip R]

I read that his NDSU salary was just over $200k, and the guy Wyoming just canned was making more than $1 million. So I think money probably was a big part of this.

Wyoming is gonna pay Bohl $750K a year and incentives could bump it up to $1.2M. I'm sure the NDSU boosters could either come close or match that. But if they aren't going FBS and there are no more worlds to conquer at FCS, going to a job in FBS - even one as mediocre as Wyoming - is something to seriously consider. Over half the teams in FBS make it to a bowl. For a program like Wyoming, even the crappy bowls are better than nothing.

[KronoRed]

Boise grabbed former OC and current Arkansas State coach Bryan Harsin.

Three years running of losing their coach to someone else.

[oregonred]

UConn hire Notre Dame's Defensive Coordinator Bob Diaco. Michigan State's Pat Narduzzi pulled himself out of the running.

Probably more conversation here on NDSU football since the advent of the internet age...

[*BaseClogger*]

Miami U. already hired Notre Dame's offensive coordinator... why all of the demand for ND coordinators??? :dunno:

[Boston Red]

Probably more conversation here on NDSU football since the advent of the internet age...

I'm guessing K-State fans spent a lot of time talking about NDSU football on the Internet after losing to them this year.

[WVRed]

Three years running of losing their coach to someone else.

UK offensive coordinator Neal Brown has been mentioned for the job.

[oregonred]

Mack Brown Alamo Bowl press conference at the same time the Texas Board of Regents and President are meeting.

[bucksfan2]

I still cannot believe he took this job. Unless Saban goes to Texas, Wyoming is going to be the runaway winner of this year's coaching carousel.

I can't speak to much of the ND St. coach, but maybe he wasn't really a consideration for a big time job. Maybe he views Wyoming as a stepping stone job to a Pac 10 school in the near future.

[WVRed]

Looks like Mack Brown is stepping down after all. My money is on Art Briles after they get rejected by Urban Meyer.

[oregonred]

Partridge in a Pear Tree for FAU. Current Arkansas DL and former Wisconsin coach Charlie Partridge offered the job. Local product from Plantation Florida. Pretty much a meh hire down here, but with local ties...

Stan Drayton RB Coach from OSU was one of the finalists. Good news for OSU that Drayton looks to be staying another year.

[oregonred]

I think Franklin from Vanderbilt will be high on Texas wish list. The options seem to dwindle quickly with many of the key targets not appearing to be in play (Shaw, Sumlin, Briles, Malzahn, Satan, etc.).

Bill O'Brien from PSU getting NFL interest from at least two teams including the Texans. Would be a big loss for Penn State.

[Reds4Life]

From what's been reported, Texas has an "A-List" for thier opening, and nearly all of them are current NFL coaches.

Chip Kelly - Eagles
Pete Carroll - Seahawks
Mike Tomlin - Steelers
Jim Harbaugh - 49ers

Yeaaaaaaaaah. I am starting to think the new AD down there and thier board of regents are dillusional. They are probably in for a rude awakening on what thier options are going to be, especially after the fiasco with Brown. Money isn't everything, especially when you're dealing with people who are already millionaires, many times over.

[Boston Red]

From what's been reported, Texas has an "A-List" for thier opening, and nearly all of them are current NFL coaches.

Chip Kelly - Eagles
Pete Carroll - Seahawks
Mike Tomlin - Steelers
Jim Harbaugh - 49ers

Yeaaaaaaaaah. I am starting to think the new AD down there and thier board of regents are dillusional. They are probably in for a rude awakening on what thier options are going to be, especially after the fiasco with Brown. Money isn't everything, especially when you're dealing with people who are already millionaires, many times over.

Chip Kelly must have interviewed for that job on Saturday.

[Chip R]

From what's been reported, Texas has an "A-List" for thier opening, and nearly all of them are current NFL coaches.

Chip Kelly - Eagles
Pete Carroll - Seahawks
Mike Tomlin - Steelers
Jim Harbaugh - 49ers

Yeaaaaaaaaah. I am starting to think the new AD down there and thier board of regents are dillusional. They are probably in for a rude awakening on what thier options are going to be, especially after the fiasco with Brown. Money isn't everything, especially when you're dealing with people who are already millionaires, many times over.

Doesn't Chip Kelly have one of those "show cause" things against him where a school who wants to hire him has to go before the NCAA and explain themselves?

[WVRed]

Chip Kelly must have interviewed for that job on Saturday.

I understand everybody on that list but Tomlin, and thats assuming he isn't fired by the Steelers (not going to happen to the chagrin of some Steeler fans I know).

Texas is a tradition rich program that will have its line of suitors. They can pay top dollar for anybody, have their on network, and the flagship program in a talent-rich state and relatively weak conference. For the most part, this is the Kentucky Wildcats of college football, and even better than that.

I don't think they will get a NFL coach unless its somebody on their way out, or even a NCAA coach at an already top job (Urban Meyer). That being said, I think it will be someone who is creating a top flight program. The more I read, the more Art Briles needs to be the pick.

[Reds4Life]

Doesn't Chip Kelly have one of those "show cause" things against him where a school who wants to hire him has to go before the NCAA and explain themselves?

Yes.

[oregonred]

You can forget Harbaugh and Carroll. That's just silliness.

Franklin, Briles and maybe Chip Kelly would seem to be the right candidates. The dysfunction of Texas leadership and boosters being on display in disposing a popular guy in the coaching fraternity won't help. The A&M move to the SEC has opened up Texas to more suitors. Texas needs a talent evaluator to sift through the best in state players - they can't keep but 30% of the top HS talent in Austin each year due to sheer numbers.

Despite Texas' deep advantages they've only racked up 3 Big 12 titles since the league formed. Texas was mediocre at best from the late 70s until Mack Brown arrived. They are in a bit of a bind with the timing until after the Bowls and NFL playoffs.

Maybe quirky Austin is just too laid back for its own good when it comes to college football.

[KronoRed]

Now that Kelly has his offense working in the NFL I don't think he'll abandon it after one year.

[Revering4Blue]

While Franklin and Briles are obvious candidates, Mark Dantonio should be right up there, IMO.

Also, waiting in the wings at QB is Tyrone Swoopes as a playmaker that the Longhorns haven't had at QB in years, which is a major reason that the Longhorns have become irrelevant on the National scene.

[Sea Ray]

While Franklin and Briles are obvious candidates, Mark Dantonio should be right up there, IMO.

Also, waiting in the wings at QB is Tyrone Swoopes as a playmaker that the Longhorns haven't had at QB in years, which is a major reason that the Longhorns have become irrelevant on the National scene.

I don't think Dantonio is a good fit for Texas. Dontonio has all the charisma and personality of Bill Belichick. Tat's not to say that he's not a hell of a coach but that's not really what they're looking for there in Austin

[Revering4Blue]

I don't think Dantonio is a good fit for Texas. Dontonio has all the charisma and personality of Bill Belichick. Tat's not to say that he's not a hell of a coach but that's not really what they're looking for there in Austin

Can't disagree at all, but it's scary to think about what M.D could do with all of the resources/talent in Austin.

[oregonred]

FWIW, Dantonio was born in Texas but may not be the charismatic and younger fit that UT is seeking.

Actually, I'm not sure what UT is looking for at this point given the mess they've created.

[MWM]

Why is everyone worried about charisma. Nick Saban has as much charisma a blade of grass. Dantonio can coach. His teams play like well coached teams. I think he'd be a great hire.

[Sea Ray]

Why is everyone worried about charisma. Nick Saban has as much charisma a blade of grass. Dantonio can coach. His teams play like well coached teams. I think he'd be a great hire.

Alabama's not Texas. That's why I mentioned Belichick. He can coach too but I doubt that he's on Texas' short list. Of course I could be wrong. We'll see

[oregonred]

Dantonio would be a great hire although he is in his late 50s. Would be shocking to see an actual defense built in the Big 12.

Saban was the hired gun that could win a NC within 3-4 years. Now I think UT would want an up and coming hot shot since the big names in the NFL and College appear to be out of the picture. Plus they need to compete with Sumlin at A&M for offensive talent.

[Boston Red]

Charlie Strong to Texas. Well, the online sportsbook have him as the favorite, at least.

[Revering4Blue]

According to Joe Schad, Texas did reach out to Mark Dantonio, but Michigan State has put together a new deal that will put Dantonio and his staff among the three highest paid coaches in the Big Ten. This will put Dantonio in the $4 million range annually.

http://coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker

[KronoRed]

Come on Texas, who has always loved you? who was your coach in waiting? it's time to bring Muschamp back to town :D

[WVRed]

Come on Texas, who has always loved you? who was your coach in waiting? it's time to bring Muschamp back to town :D

I think its going to be Art Briles but I am really hoping for Charlie Strong. With Touchdown Teddy leaving and Louisville going to the ACC next season, I wouldn't be shocked to see him jump ship.

[MWM]

Is Florida serious about keeping Muschamp? I can see the rationale behind not letting him go after last year, but they're losing players and recruits now. Keeping him around another year could really set the program back a few years.

[dabvu2498]

Is Florida serious about keeping Muschamp? I can see the rationale behind not letting him go after last year, but they're losing players and recruits now. Keeping him around another year could really set the program back a few years.

We can only hope.

[Boston Red]

I think its going to be Art Briles but I am really hoping for Charlie Strong. With Touchdown Teddy leaving and Louisville going to the ACC next season, I wouldn't be shocked to see him jump ship.

You really want Bobby Petrino back at Louisville?

[WVRed]

Is Florida serious about keeping Muschamp? I can see the rationale behind not letting him go after last year, but they're losing players and recruits now. Keeping him around another year could really set the program back a few years.

Outside of Art Briles (who is likely a Longhorns lean), I don't think there is a coach who would be worth cutting Muschamp loose over. It's not like letting Ron Zook go when Urban Meyer was available. Give it another year, weather the storm, and hope there is somebody better next year.

[dabvu2498]

Outside of Art Briles (who is likely a Longhorns lean), I don't think there is a coach who would be worth cutting Muschamp loose over. It's not like letting Ron Zook go when Urban Meyer was available. Give it another year, weather the storm, and hope there is somebody better next year.

UF is a place I could see Franklin leaving VU for. I doubt if the Texas job falls to him and I'm not sure PSU is really the right situation, but I could see Franklin doing what he does in Gainesville and being successful.

Heck, Derek Dooley is available. He could give you 6-6. :)

[MWM]

Outside of Art Briles (who is likely a Longhorns lean), I don't think there is a coach who would be worth cutting Muschamp loose over. It's not like letting Ron Zook go when Urban Meyer was available. Give it another year, weather the storm, and hope there is somebody better next year.

I don't buy this. Florida is one of the premier jobs in college football. They don't need to wait until someone "is available". Outside of a handful of coaches at top programs, if that job was open they wouldn't have a hard time finding quality candidates.

One year of a recruiting cycle can be huge for a program on the downswing. The problem is that they're losing recruits who were committed to UF and they're losing players who are transferring. They could afford another year of an under-performing coach if he was still bringing good players in. But in the world of big time college football, another year of talent drain can be tough to recover from.

[KronoRed]

I disagree a bit MWM, Florida is a top job but also one of those jobs that scares a lot of coaches off, part of why they ended up with Zook in 02, I have no doubt that feelers were put out and what came back wasn't good, apparently Strong is ticked that he didn't get the job last time so he's out, in 05 it was different, Meyer was interested as were Petrino and Spurrier, Foley couldn't lose there.

The recruiting losses and transfers are bad but as usual are almost all offensive, which has been a problem since Meyer's last class, need only look at the nolies to see it doesn't take much to turn it around, Bowden ran that school into the ground and look where they are now, another year (or my bet is half a year) of Muschamp won't make it any worse then it already is.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Texas looking at Mora and there seems to be some "mutual interest".

[WVRed]

I don't buy this. Florida is one of the premier jobs in college football. They don't need to wait until someone "is available". Outside of a handful of coaches at top programs, if that job was open they wouldn't have a hard time finding quality candidates.

One year of a recruiting cycle can be huge for a program on the downswing. The problem is that they're losing recruits who were committed to UF and they're losing players who are transferring. They could afford another year of an under-performing coach if he was still bringing good players in. But in the world of big time college football, another year of talent drain can be tough to recover from.

When I say available I'm talking someone worth dumping your current coach for. Its more a knock on the coaches available than anything.

I'm not sold on James Franklin either. At least for Florida. Penn State maybe, but not Gainesville.

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[Chip R]

Art Briles says he's staying at Baylor.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10237284/art-briles-baylor-bears-staying-no-desire-leave

[Revering4Blue]

The Texas Longhorns can scratch another candidate from their apparent short list.


Jim Mora says he is staying at UCLA after the coach was linked as a possible replacement for Mack Brown.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/10237588/jim-mora-ucla-bruins-committed-texas-longhorns-interest

[Tom Servo]

Can't give the Texas job away.

[dabvu2498]

Can't give the Texas job away.

Like UTEast last year.

It's a tough job, really. Been reading some of their message boards lately. They've got more than their share of wackadoo fans.

[Boston Red]

Al Golden was offered the job at Penn State. I assume he is not an idiot and will accept.

[KronoRed]

Al Golden was offered the job at Penn State. I assume he is not an idiot and will accept.

His suit and tie schtick will look a little less ridiculous in Pennsylvania.

[Boston Red]

The Texas 247Sports site has Strong to Texas.

Wonderful for Louisville if Jurich goes and gets Petrino. Could be a disaster otherwise.

[jojo]

The Texas 247Sports site has Strong to Texas.

Wonderful for Louisville if Jurich goes and gets Petrino. Could be a disaster otherwise.

Longhorn fans are already expressing dissapointment.

[Boston Red]

One side or the other apparently getting cold feet. Louisville and Strong working on an extension?!? Developing...

[jojo]

One side or the other apparently getting cold feet. Louisville and Strong working on an extension?!? Developing...

Longhorns would go from complaining about getting Strong to complaining about not getting him.

[WVRed]

One side or the other apparently getting cold feet. Louisville and Strong working on an extension?!? Developing...

I don't think so.

Deal with Texas to be finalized tomorrow, press conference on Monday.

I'm more interested in how he does at a program like Texas. He's not exactly a media darling and the Texas job is similar to the UK job in basketball in terms of expectations. Winning games is important, but so is being accessible. Don't think it will be Billy the Clyde bad, but will be interesting.

[Boston Red]

Finally done.

Now it's Bobby time in Louisville! Make it happen Jurich!

[RiverRat13]

The LSUFreek gif of the Strong/Texas situation is one of his all-time greats.

[WVRed]

Finally done.

Now it's Bobby time in Louisville! Make it happen Jurich!

I don't think it's as clear cut for Petrino to Louisville. The fans want it, obviously, but Jurich is the one making the call and there are other options that could be better and may be more of a longtime fixture rather than a stepping stone.

Pat Narduzzi, Jay Gruden, and the Hudspeth guy from Louisiana Lafayette will likely get looks.

[Boston Red]

I don't necessarily want someone who plans to be there forever. If the next guy is taking a new job after 4-5 years, it probably means he did a really good job at Louisville.

[joshnky]

Jurich said petrino would be a candidate but it sounds like he won't top the list. Narduzzi and Morris will probably get the first call and it sounds like narduzzi is interested.

[dabvu2498]

The LSUFreek gif of the Strong/Texas situation is one of his all-time greats.

I can almost hear Gabby Johnson from the rooftops.

[Reds4Life]

Wouldn't touch Petrino with a 10 foot poll, that guy is a scum bag and major NCAA violation waiting to happen.

[WVRed]

Rich Rodriguez is at the top of the list for Louisville.

[19braves77]

Strong should do good but I cant see him enjoying being told on who to hire for assistants and what players to recruit. He was basically picked due to his strong connections to Florida athletes. How crazy is that ? If Texas would have just held their cards closer, they could have had anybody they wanted but nobody likes to be the 10th choice after a 3 year coaching search.

http://imageshack.com/a/img11/2139/xcsc.gif

[Boston Red]

Rich Rodriguez is at the top of the list for Louisville.

I'd put the chances of RichRod being the guy at about 0%. Petrino is now listed as the leader by both the Scout and Rivals guys. This might actually be happening. That would be a good day.

[Slyder]

I'd put the chances of RichRod being the guy at about 0%. Petrino is now listed as the leader by both the Scout and Rivals guys. This might actually be happening. That would be a good day.

Second times through historically speaking don't turn out so well.

[Boston Red]

Second times through historically speaking don't turn out so well.

True, but usually guys on their second time through are at the ends of their careers and coming off of failure. There are some unique circumstances here with a guy who still should be in his prime. And his only failure at the college level has been personal.

Besides, Bill Snyder is currently in the middle of a highly successful second run.

[Sea Ray]

Rich Rodriguez is at the top of the list for Louisville.

I don't why a guy would leave a PAC12 team for a chance to coach in UC's conference

[WVRed]

I don't why a guy would leave a PAC12 team for a chance to coach in UC's conference

Louisville isn't going to be in UCs conference next year. They're moving to the ACC.

It is closer to West Virginia, where he is from, so there's that. Only thing wit RichRod would be how long before WVU fans want him back if Holgorsen continues to fall apart?

[Slyder]

Louisville isn't going to be in UCs conference next year. They're moving to the ACC.

It is closer to West Virginia, where he is from, so there's that. Only thing wit RichRod would be how long before WVU fans want him back if Holgorsen continues to fall apart?

I don't want him back even if the wheels fall off of Holg-a-mania. He screwed us going out the door in the middle of the night, I don't believe he wouldn't again.

[Boston Red]

Haven't the wheels already fallen off with Holgerson?

[Slyder]

Haven't the wheels already fallen off with Holgerson?

This is also the same team that was 1 4th down stop from beating Texas, a consistent QB play away from possibly beating Oklahoma, and would have had Kansas State within earshot. We had 18 injuries (on the two deep) and no depth due to poor recruiting.

So while we didn't end on a high note, there's still plenty to be glad about. We are arguably having one of our better years in recruiting (according to many sources). Most of the preseason pundantry predictions had us as anywhere from 3-7 win team and we were just that.

[Boston Red]

Fair enough. I just thought being KU's only Big 12 win in the last 4 years would probably qualify as having some wheels really, really loose if not already fallen off.

[jojo]

poor recruiting

This is the thing that gets coaches fired.

[Revering4Blue]

Simple question:

Now that Al Golden is not leaving the "U" for PSU, whom should the Nittany Lions hire as head coach?

[UKFlounder]

James Franklin if they can get him


Simple question:

Now that Al Golden is not leaving the "U" for PSU, whom should the Nittany Lions hire as head coach?

[Hoosier Red]

James Franklin if they can get him

I saw that they'd be going after Mike Munchak as well. He's a PSU alum IIRC which has its share of pros and cons.(Pro: JoePa Con: JoePa) I'd have to think he'd be interested in the job as opposed to trying to hire a successful coach at another school who might need to be convinced.

[WMR]

Frankly, I'm amazed Texas preferred Cholly over Franklin. From coaching to media savvy Franklin is a much better fit for the Texas job than Strong. Recruiting is a push, of course you've gotta factor in Shapiro/Hurtt (Mr. Show Cause) as a big factor in that...

[UKFlounder]

He's definitely interested in the job from what I can tell, but it's hard to know how an alumnus will do. RichRod did find at WVA & Doug Marone at Syracuse, but Joker Phillips did not fare well at UK & some UNC basketball coaches (Matt Doherty) did not fit the bill either. When an alum struggles, it can get ugly.

The whole "keep it in the family" mindset might not be good for PSU either as you suggested. It would have its benefits, such as his loyalty if he gets the job and does well & his willingness to hang with boosters, etc., but maybe they need more time away from the Paterno tree.



I saw that they'd be going after Mike Munchak as well. He's a PSU alum IIRC which has its share of pros and cons.(Pro: JoePa Con: JoePa) I'd have to think he'd be interested in the job as opposed to trying to hire a successful coach at another school who might need to be convinced.

[Hoosier Red]

He's definitely interested in the job from what I can tell, but it's hard to know how an alumnus will do. RichRod did find at WVA & Doug Marone at Syracuse, but Joker Phillips did not fare well at UK & some UNC basketball coaches (Matt Doherty) did not fit the bill either. When an alum struggles, it can get ugly.

The whole "keep it in the family" mindset might not be good for PSU either as you suggested. It would have its benefits, such as his loyalty if he gets the job and does well & his willingness to hang with boosters, etc., but maybe they need more time away from the Paterno tree.

I think it would be good to "keep it in the family" only if Munchak(or another alum) was more committed to doing things the same way Bill O'Brien was. In that case, you'd essentially have best of both worlds, he'd have enough credibility to keep the JoePa worshippers off his back and would be able to continue doing things in a proactive way.

There's always going to be some consternation when an "outsider" comes in and changes things up, but it would be mitigated somewhat if the person making the changes was a "Penn State" guy.

[WVRed]

Frankly, I'm amazed Texas preferred Cholly over Franklin. From coaching to media savvy Franklin is a much better fit for the Texas job than Strong. Recruiting is a push, of course you've gotta factor in Shapiro/Hurtt (Mr. Show Cause) as a big factor in that...

Wonder if Hurtt will follow Strong to Texas and bring the Batphone with him?

[dabvu2498]

Wonder if Hurtt will follow Strong to Texas and bring the Batphone with him?

Show cause restriction says probably not.

[dabvu2498]

http://blogs.tennessean.com/vanderbilt/2014/01/06/brent-pry-turns-down-georgia-southern-wants-to-stay-with-james-franklin/

“My wife and I struggled with this the last two week or two. We had a fantastic experience when we were there (Pry was Georgia Southern’s defensive coordinator in 2010). Of course, they’re entering into the Sun Belt Conference and there were a lot of great things about that opportunity. But this decision was more about myself and the opportunity here at Vanderbilt with James, and wanting to be here and wanting to be with James.”

“It’s based on being here at Vanderbilt and what we’ve done and what we plan to do in the future,” he added. “Again, it’s more about being here and being with James and everything we’ve done and how excited I am. We’re in a great situation, a fabulous situation.”

I know Franklin side-stepped "the question"'on ESPN today, but all his other words and actions make it sound like he's staying at Vanderbilt. If not, these guys are really full of crap. :)

[RiverRat13]

I saw on another site that Franklin's assistants started following Penn St. recruits on Twitter.

[dabvu2498]

I saw on another site that Franklin's assistants started following Penn St. recruits on Twitter.

Louisville too.

[Boston Red]

UofL people seem to think it's going to be Petrino for a second tour of duty. That makes me very happy.

[dabvu2498]

UofL people seem to think it's going to be Petrino for a second tour of duty. That makes me very happy.

Good. Would leave Derek Mason for Vanderbilt. (If they need him.)

[Boston Red]

WKU's not wasting any time. They've already interviewed Jeff Brohm for the head coaching position that's not quite vacant yet.

Here's the link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/01/07/jeff-brohm-western-kentucky-bobby-petrino-louisvlle/4362507/

[dabvu2498]

Per a "PSU insider," Franklin is staying at VU and PSU has made an approach to Mark Stoops.

[Boston Red]

PSU has made an approach to Mark Stoops.

Penn State must be impressed with Mark's 2-10 record. Seems legit.

If Louisville hires Petrino and UK has its prized recruiting class pulled out from under them in the same week,I do not think it would be happy times in Lexington, though.

[jojo]

Per a "PSU insider," Franklin is staying at VU and PSU has made an approach to Mark Stoops.

I don't understand why Franklin would leave Vandy for PSU. To me it would be a move down given the PSU situation.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don't understand why Franklin would leave Vandy for PSU. To me it would be a move down given the PSU situation.

That is ridiculous.

Penn State is one of the most storied programs in college football history and only have 2 more years of bowl bans. They originally had 40 scholarships taken away but in September this number was decreased to 15.

Vanderbilt is an excellent academic school. That is all.

[dabvu2498]

I don't understand why Franklin would leave Vandy for PSU. To me it would be a move down given the PSU situation.

I can see the appeal of Penn State. Plus he's from the Philly area, so it would be a bit of a homecoming.

This is purely my speculation, so bear with me... I think he and David Williams (VU's AD) are working the VU Board of Trust for big things re: facilities upgrades. Williams and VU baseball coach Tim Corbin have become very close to Franklin. Corbin and Williams got some big things done for the baseball program in a similar fashion. Corbin had some very nice offers to leave VU and parlayed them into some of the best baseball facilities in the country.

Now that's not to say he wouldn't leave, ever, but I think it would have to be such an overwhelming offer that he couldn't say no.

[jojo]

That is ridiculous.

Penn State is one of the most storied programs in college football history and only have 2 more years of bowl bans. They originally had 40 scholarships taken away but in September this number was decreased to 15.

Vanderbilt is an excellent academic school. That is all.

Step off of the high horse that presumably is blinded by SEC hatred and actually do the calculus.

Franklin is a guy that is on the rise. He is in the middle of building something unprecedented at Vandy but will presumably move onto a job that would be considered a promotion.

PSU would be starting over with real doubts that this year's recruiting class and still stiff sanctions in place. PSU still has some huge culture issues concerning how the coach relates to the administration and boosters. At Vandy, Franklin is master of his program about as much as any coach could be. So he has greatest control over his destiny and his day.

In two years, Franklin might be in the NFL. PSU is a much greater career risk than Vandy. PSU had a great coaching situation and they chased him off.

[jojo]

I can see the appeal of Penn State. Plus he's from the Philly area, so it would be a bit of a homecoming.

This is purely my speculation, so bear with me... I think he and David Williams (VU's AD) are working the VU Board of Trust for big things re: facilities upgrades. Williams and VU baseball coach Tim Corbin have become very close to Franklin. Corbin and Williams got some big things done for the baseball program in a similar fashion. Corbin had some very nice offers to leave VU and parlayed them into some of the best baseball facilities in the country.

Now that's not to say he wouldn't leave, ever, but I think it would have to be such an overwhelming offer that he couldn't say no.

I agree. He's set up at Vandy to do whatever his goal is...be it make hay there or to parlay his resume into something even more attractive.

PSU isn't really a destination IMHO (for reasons stated above) and it isnt a stepping stone either. PSU would be his make it or break it career stop. Why would he risk the "break it" given the situations on the ground?

[dabvu2498]

That is ridiculous.

Penn State is one of the most storied programs in college football history and only have 2 more years of bowl bans. They originally had 40 scholarships taken away but in September this number was decreased to 15.

Vanderbilt is an excellent academic school. That is all.

VU is an excellent academic school in a great city that also plays football in the best football conference in the country. A potential student-athlete wouldn't have to "settle" to come to VU. They can have the best of all worlds there.

FYI: That's straight from day 1 press conference introducing Franklin as head coach at VU 3 years ago.

VU just opened a brand new indoor practice facility. There's been a serious monetary commitment to excellence in football and if they are ponying up the kind of money for Franklin and his staff that I'm hearing about, that commitment will continue.

If Franklin goes to PSU, he'll always be second (third?) best. Stay at VU and continue the upward trend and he can design the stadium that they'll eventually name for him there.

He's sold recruits on the idea of coming to VU and creating their own legacy, not "borrowing" someone else's. He may go to PSU or somewhere else, for that matter. If he does, however, he will have gone away from his own recruiting pitch.

[RedTeamGo!]

Step off of the high horse that presumably is blinded by SEC hatred and actually do the calculus.

Franklin is a guy that is on the rise. He is in the middle of building something unprecedented at Vandy but will presumably move onto a job that would be considered a promotion.

PSU would be starting over with real doubts that this year's recruiting class and still stiff sanctions in place. PSU still has some huge culture issues concerning how the coach relates to the administration and boosters. At Vandy, Franklin is master of his program about as much as any coach could be. So he has greatest control over his destiny and his day.

In two years, Franklin might be in the NFL. PSU is a much greater career risk than Vandy. PSU had a great coaching situation and they chased him off.

SEC hatred? That has nothing to do with this.

It is Vanderbilt, an excellent school that is not known for football and Penn State, a historic football program. Their last coach turned it into a NFL head coaching position. Franklin could turn PSU into an NFL gig a lot easier than at Vanderbilt, if that is what he wanted. It is not like people do not understand the situation at PSU, any success is gravy until the sanctions are lifted. With the talent bases each program draws from Franklin can turn PSU into a national contender, while it is unlikely Vanderbilt will ever have the talent to even contend for a conference title.

[Boston Red]

I don't think it's crazy for Franklin to decide to stay at Vandy instead of go to Penn State, but it would make perfect sense if he DID go to Penn State. That's just a lot better job. It just is. Obviously a Penn State coach would never leave to take the Vandy job.

[dabvu2498]

If he leaves for the NFL, so be it... Good for him.

If he leaves for another college job, my feelings will be a little hurt but I don't think I could ever hold a grudge against him. What he's done there in 3 years has been remarkable and whoever might be hired next will have a nice base to work with. The program went from doormat to upstart and that's because of his vision and his work. That's a gift that no Vandy fan thought possible.

Besides, we all thought we were getting Ivin Jasper 3 years ago. (No offense, Coach Jasper. Is your resume ready?)

[dabvu2498]

I don't think it's crazy for Franklin to decide to stay at Vandy instead of go to Penn State, but it would make perfect sense if he DID go to Penn State. That's just a lot better job. It just is. Obviously a Penn State coach would never leave to take the Vandy job.

LSU was a better job when DiNardo left Vandy too. There are cautionary tales both ways.

[Sea Ray]

That is ridiculous.

Penn State is one of the most storied programs in college football history and only have 2 more years of bowl bans. They originally had 40 scholarships taken away but in September this number was decreased to 15.

Vanderbilt is an excellent academic school. That is all.

They've also got a ways to go to recover from the "fiasco" that we're all we aware of. That goes much further than scholarships

[Boston Red]

LSU was a better job when DiNardo left Vandy too. There are cautionary tales both ways.

I'm all for him staying at Vandy, and as I said I think it makes perfect sense. But Penn State is clearly the better job, and that's not exactly an insult to Vandy.

[WVRed]

I have to admit, I never thought Stoops would be a longterm fixture at UK, but I didn't think it would be after this year.

Of course, by the time it happened he would have had UK back on track and into bowl games and UK would have promoted Neal Brown to replace him.

My guess is if Stoops leaves Brown steps in and hopes to salvage some of the recruiting class. Drew Barker would likely still stay, but the rest of the class could be lost.

[dabvu2498]

I'm all for him staying at Vandy, and as I said I think it makes perfect sense. But Penn State is clearly the better job, and that's not exactly an insult to Vandy.

Up to this point, Penn State has been a better job than Vandy. That may be changing.

[WMR]

Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer is not one to mince words.
So when it came time to ask him about his first return to Atlanta since
the 2007 season from hell, when the Falcons went 4-12, and Petrino
resigned with three games left to take the job at Arkansas, Zimmer
pulled out the Ginsu knives.

On going back to Atlanta, Zimmer said about that season "I was never even there. As far as I am concerned. I never even was there. When a coach quits in the middle of the year and ruins a bunch of people's families and doesn't' have enough guts to at least finish out the year. I am not a part of that."

Pretty good stuff, but it gets even better in his appraisal of Petrino: "He is a coward. Put that in quotes. He ruined a bunch of people's lives, a bunch of people's families, kids, because he didn't have enough nuts to stay there and finish the job. That's the truth."

When asked if he had seen a two days like that before, where the Falcons lost on Monday Night Football, a coach resigns and then is doing "Woo Pig Sooie" 24 hours later in front of Arkansas boosters, Zimmer said: "No, most people in football have enough courage about them and enough fight to stick through something and not quit halfway through the
year. It is cowardly.

"He came in and said he resigned, he would talk to us all at a later date, walked out of the office and no one has ever talked to him since. Not that anybody wanted to.

"He's a gutless bxxxxx. Quote that. I don't give a sxxx."

Having the two biggest immoral SOBs in college sports leading your two men's programs would be impressive in a perverse sort of way, I suppose. :eek:

I was interested in Petrino for the HC position at UK when it was open... had never seen these words from Zimmer before... glad we didn't get him. Guess he has been passed over by every major job that has come open till now for a reason. :eek:

[MWM]

I bet most coaches with options now or other options very soon will steer clear of Penn State. I wouldn't want any part of it. The ones who would are ones with ties to the school or where it's worth it to take the risk because they are not one of the premier up-and-comers; or someone who is a coordinator looking for his first HC gig. I bet if you polled established coaches, Penn State would not be seen as an attractive option. Franklin has no need to take risks right now.

[MWM]

Wow, awesome stuff from Zimmer. We may be getting a glimpse into why he's not been offered a HC job yet though.

[dabvu2498]

Good sign. Very good sign.

Jason La Canfora‏@JasonLaCanfora9m
Penn State has interview set with 49ers OC Greg Roman

[jojo]

SEC hatred? That has nothing to do with this.

It is Vanderbilt, an excellent school that is not known for football and Penn State, a historic football program. Their last coach turned it into a NFL head coaching position. Franklin could turn PSU into an NFL gig a lot easier than at Vanderbilt, if that is what he wanted. It is not like people do not understand the situation at PSU, any success is gravy until the sanctions are lifted. With the talent bases each program draws from Franklin can turn PSU into a national contender, while it is unlikely Vanderbilt will ever have the talent to even contend for a conference title.

PSU's last coach had an NFL pedigree.

[dabvu2498]

Having the two biggest immoral SOBs in college sports leading your two men's programs would be impressive in a perverse sort of way, I suppose. :eek:

You guys giving the '96 trophy back and taking the banner down? Or was he "moral" back then?

[MWM]

Pitino is immoral but Calipari isn't? I think I can die now as I've heard it all.

[WMR]

You guys giving the '96 trophy back and taking the banner down? Or was he "moral" back then?

Don't think he'd started punching his abortion card at that point... or using his staff positions to pay off extortion attempts... Or banging skanks on restaurant tables and embarrassing his city and university... etc. etc. etc.

[WMR]

Pitino is immoral but Calipari isn't? I think I can die now as I've heard it all.



Cal isn't immoral at all. Read my sig if you need any more explanation of the 2 FFs...

Zero major NCAA infractions... putting his players future above his own... Raising millions of dollars for charity (How much have YOU raised?)

[dabvu2498]

Don't think he'd started punching his abortion card at that point... or using his staff positions to pay off extortion attempts... Or banging skanks on restaurant tables and embarrassing his city and university... etc. etc. etc.

Or, some folks are rational...

@rexchapman "Rick's not infallible. But when UK-folks bash Rick they bash a guy many many UK-players/UK-greats love dearly. Just bothers me"

[WMR]

Or, some folks are rational...

@rexchapman "Rick's not infallible. But when UK-folks bash Rick they bash a guy many many UK-players/UK-greats love dearly. Just bothers me"

Citing Rex Chapman as a rational voice on Pitino is hi lar i ous. :laugh:

If you can disprove any of the FACTS I've cited, I'd love to read them. :beerme:

[MWM]

Raising millions of dollars for charity (How much have YOU raised?)

I work for a 501c3 that raises substantially more for charity than Calipari. But very classy of you.

[Boston Red]

Rick Pitino's name hangs in the rafters at Rupp, and Joe B. Hall is Bobby Petrino's biggest cheerleader.

Up is down, and down is up in WMR's world.

[dabvu2498]

Citing Rex Chapman as a rational voice on Pitino is hi lar i ous. :laugh:

If you can disprove any of the FACTS I've cited, I'd love to read them. :beerme:

It's not about "facts." It's about not calling your ex-wife ugly names and then setting fire to your own house after a divorce.

[WMR]

I work for a 501c3 that raises substantially more for charity than Calipari. But very classy of you.

Would all that still happen if you weren't there? I'm guessing yes.

But good for you to help raise that money. :beerme:

As an aside: That "you" was meant as a general YOU, as in to all the denegrators such as yourself who hold Cal up as an immoral person, not you, MWM, particularly.

[dabvu2498]

Then again, this thread is supposed to be about college football news. So... my bad.

[WMR]

It's not about "facts." It's about not calling your ex-wife ugly names and then setting fire to your own house after a divorce.

If your ex-wife remarries your mortal enemy and starts running around town offering sexual favors on street corners, what are you supposed to say? :lol:

[WMR]

Rick Pitino's name hangs in the rafters at Rupp, and Joe B. Hall is Bobby Petrino's biggest cheerleader.

Up is down, and down is up in WMR's world.

:lol:

Poor Joe, I honestly feel for him on that one.

Rick's jersey represents a moment in time... before he became an utter embarrassment and an abortionist while managing to retain his status as a practicing Catholic. :confused:

Although if they wanted to pull Richie's down and wanted to grab Rick's while they were up there, I don't think anyone would complain. :D

[Boston Red]

I love that you think Rick Pitino was different when he was at UK.

And I would have loved to have had a convo with you about John Calipari about ten years ago. My guess is your tune has changed a lot.

[MWM]

Would all that still happen if you weren't there? I'm guessing yes.

Actually, no. But continue to get classier if you want. Typical WMR.

[WVRed]

Looks like the person mentioning Stoops to Penn State is a fake account.

Stoops actually grew up in State College though, so there's that.

[dabvu2498]

Looks like the person mentioning Stoops to Penn State is a fake account.

Stoops actually grew up in State College though, so there's that.

We will see... He's still out there. If Rich Bisaccia ends up at Penn St, we may have a winner. If not, he's the new @seeheartell

[MWM]

I also think Bradley's comments on his way out are not helping. PSU seems only marginally better now than it was 2 years ago.

[Boston Red]

Petrino to Louisville is fully out in the open now.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10263027/louisville-cardinals-offer-job-bobby-petrino

[5TimeWSChamps]

You can't spell adultery without UL

[Tom Servo]

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Petrino.png

[Reds4Life]

I'm no UK fan, in fact I can't stand them, but Louisville fans can't throw stones at UK anymore, or anyone else for that matter. Petrino is a complete scumbag, and this hire is a complete embarrassment.

Seriously, this is as pathetic as it gets. Speaks volumes about the UL athletic department.

[Joseph]

Funny little post for WKU


----

Football Coaching Position (Bowling Green)


Past coaching experience? Former player? Played any EA football games? Do you know what a football looks like? If so, the following position may be for you.

A Leading International University with American reach, or something like that, is currently hiring a head football coach. We are looking for someone to take over the current program long term. The University has a proud historic tradition in athletics, especially in football. The program currently has one BCS bowl loss, which was to the Mud dogs in the Bourbon Bowl. Overall, the subpar support from the student base and smell of dog food make for an excellent football atmosphere to coach in.

I know you're thinking, what's in it for me? Our student body has no fear. The students don't know the meaning of the word "fear", in fact they don't know the meaning of a lot of words. There is little to no media pressure. Games are hardly aired on national television so if you don't notice the other team put too many players on the field, who cares? I understand, I know it's hard to count to 5. I'm sorry, that was basketball. You have your own office pending key replacement (it got flushed down the toilet with the last coach's contract).

Responsibilities include:
*Must have practices
*Show film sometimes
*Extensive knowledge of strip clubs
*Have QB "slang that puppy around"
*Win the Super Bowl
*Attend other sporting events, volleyball games prohibited.
*Weekly meetings with President at Tattletales
*Previously wrecking a motorcycle a plus, but not necessary.
***Those named Joker Phillips need not apply.***

[WVRed]

I'm no UK fan, in fact I can't stand them, but Louisville fans can't throw stones at UK anymore, or anyone else for that matter. Petrino is a complete scumbag, and this hire is a complete embarrassment.

Seriously, this is as pathetic as it gets. Speaks volumes about the UL athletic department.

Louisville is to UK what Auburn is to Alabama. The little brother who rails against how dirty big brother is but has ethics problems of its own.

It's win at all costs basically with the Petrino hire. Not surprising, though.

[jojo]

Louisville is to UK what Auburn is to Alabama. The little brother who rails against how dirty big brother is but has ethics problems of its own.

It's win at all costs basically with the Petrino hire. Not surprising, though.

Auburn doesn't have ethics problems of its own.

[5TimeWSChamps]

This guy is staying on staff also

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Clint-Hurtt-Check.png

[hebroncougar]

I'm no UK fan, in fact I can't stand them, but Louisville fans can't throw stones at UK anymore, or anyone else for that matter. Petrino is a complete scumbag, and this hire is a complete embarrassment.

Seriously, this is as pathetic as it gets. Speaks volumes about the UL athletic department.

Agreed. I am a UL fan. At least I was. This is the final nail in the coffin for big college athletics for me. I'm done.

[dabvu2498]

This guy is staying on staff also



If true, this is way more awful than Petrino returning.

[Reds4Life]

If true, this is way more awful than Petrino returning.

It's true, ESPN is saying Hurtt will be on Petrinos staff.

Unbelievable.

[dabvu2498]

It's true, ESPN is saying Hurtt will be on Petrinos staff.

Unbelievable.

"... is expected to be retained..."

I've seen a lot of that verbiage not pan out the last couple weeks. But it wouldn't shock me.

And you guys can make fun of WKU all you want, but they actually made about $350,000 on this deal.

"In the wake of the scandal, Petrino signed a four-year contract with Western Kentucky in December 2012. The deal has a base salary of $850,000 and includes a $1.2 million repayment to the school if he terminates it early."

[WMR]

Actually, no. But continue to get classier if you want. Typical WMR.

Only charity dollars raised by MWM are worthy of praise or recognition. Noted.

Typical MWM.

Keep attacking me instead of providing some actual evidence that Calipari is a scumbag on the level of Petrino, O'Brien, Meyer, Pitino, Tressell, RichRod etc. etc. etc.

Rumor and innuendo are easy.

[WMR]

I'm no UK fan, in fact I can't stand them, but Louisville fans can't throw stones at UK anymore, or anyone else for that matter. Petrino is a complete scumbag, and this hire is a complete embarrassment.

Seriously, this is as pathetic as it gets. Speaks volumes about the UL athletic department.

Thank you.

And believe you me, I know you're no UK fan. :lol:

[WMR]

This guy is staying on staff also

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Clint-Hurtt-Check.png

Recruiters of the year don't come cheap... Nor do the players they recruit. ;)

[WMR]

If true, this is way more awful than Petrino returning.

UL announced they were keeping him several days ago.

Hurtt knows where ALL the bodies are buried.

He starts talking, Bridgewater's entire career is vacated.

They cannot afford NOT to keep him around.

[dabvu2498]

UL announced they were keeping him several days ago.


Link?

[WMR]

Link?

I read it on another board... Hurtt is going nowhere.

That was the hold up with Strong at Texas... They wouldn't have him.

Few schools are pathetic enough to keep or hire a coach while serving out a show cause from the NCAA. Actually, only one that I can think of. If anyone else can provide examples, I'd love to read them.

[Chip R]

I bet most coaches with options now or other options very soon will steer clear of Penn State. I wouldn't want any part of it. The ones who would are ones with ties to the school or where it's worth it to take the risk because they are not one of the premier up-and-comers; or someone who is a coordinator looking for his first HC gig. I bet if you polled established coaches, Penn State would not be seen as an attractive option. Franklin has no need to take risks right now.

I think I would have thought the same thing post-Paterno. I'm not so sure now. I thought PSU would be the doormat of the Big 10 for a decade. O'Brien really kicked ass there. 7-5 and 4-4 in the conference. He might be a miracle worker.

They are getting scholarships back. They get a load of money every year from the Big 10 Network. They are the only game in town even though their wrestling team and women's volleyball teams are fantastic. If fans and alums didn't leave after what happened under Paterno, they are going to be loyal for life. It's not like the conference isn't winnable either. They have an incredible base to recruit from with thousands of kids who have grown up dreaming of playing for PSU. The right coach could be a hero there.

The Vandy job is a nice job but they are going to be butting their heads against Bama, Auburn, LSU, maybe A&M, possibly Florida and not to mention Tennessee. Can they get the kind of kids in that those schools do? How crazy are they about football at Vandy? Are they crazy enough to do whatever it takes to play with the elite of the SEC? Do they want to do whatever it takes? Are kids there dreaming about growing up and playing for Vandy or UT? If they are good enough are they going to stay at home or go south? This just may be their ceiling: A plus .500 record and a nice bowl game.

[dabvu2498]

I read it on another board... Hurtt is going nowhere.

That was the hold up with Strong at Texas... They wouldn't have him.

Few schools are pathetic enough to keep or hire a coach while serving out a show cause from the NCAA. Actually, only one that I can think of. If anyone else can provide examples, I'd love to read them.

There have been examples in mens' basketball. I read it on another board.

[Boston Red]

Your crocodile tears are delicious. No more Charlie Strong taking it easy on you WMR. This will be fun.

[Revering4Blue]

On Wednesday, Michigan announced that offensive coordinator Al Borges will not return in 2014.


CBS reports that Alabama offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier has accepted the OC job at Michigan, and that he will be among the top-five highest-paid coordinators in college football.

[WMR]

Your crocodile tears are delicious. No more Charlie Strong taking it easy on you WMR. This will be fun.

Boston, I distinctly remember you saying that Pitino's shenanigans led to you enjoying the championship less than you would have otherwise.

I consider you a fully moral person.

Why the different perspective on Petrino? If anything, he embarrassed you worse than Pitino.

Is it purely wins and getting to stick it to UK one more time? If so, why state your dissatisfaction/shame with Pitino?

BTW:I do not think crocodile tears mean what you think they mean. ;)

[Boston Red]

I never liked Pitino. Still don't, and I don't consider myself a UofL basketball fan anymore (which was easy since I went to Xavier and don't live in Louisville). The man just grates on me, and I don't think it's a coincidence that my dislike of him started when he was at UK.

The only time I ever really disliked Petrino was when he interviewed for the LSU job on the way to Memphis for the Liberty Bowl in '04. But I got over it when he didn't take (or didn't get...who knows) that job and stayed two more years. At the end of the day, he went to the NFL. Couldn't really fault him there. The Arkansas stuff obviously wasn't good, but it's not like the guy's an axe-murderer. His wife has apparently moved on, and I don't really care who he bangs as long as it doesn't affect his job performance and he keeps her off the payroll this time.

The faux outrage over this hiring will last a few weeks. The jokes will go on for a while. And then Louisville will be 9-0 (or something like that) late in the year with FSU coming to town, and I can already picture the feature story of Bobby Petrino's redemption playing on GameDay.

At the end of the day, he stuck with Louisville 4 years last time, which is the same amount of time Charlie (I'm not cut like that) Strong stayed. It's what these guys do, and it happens to just about every program. If you could promise me UofL was going to be 13-0 and in the playoffs this coming season, I'd drive Petrino to the airport for his next round of interviews at the end of the next year. If he's looking to leave again, it will be because he's been successful. And it's the same reason Morris or Mason or Nard Dog or whoever would have been looking to leave, too.

[5TimeWSChamps]

I actually have plenty of respect for the Louisville fans that say Eff It, he wins

[WVRed]

Auburn doesn't have ethics problems of its own.

And I'm the Queen of England.

Looks like Louisville has updated their Core Values:

http://ksr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/new-values.jpg

[jojo]

And I'm the Queen of England.

Looks like Louisville has updated their Core Values:

http://ksr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/new-values.jpg

Hello, your majesty. What time is tea?

[Boston Red]

Gene Chizik will reportedly be Petrino's defensive coordinator.

[bucksfan2]

Petrino can coach. He may be a scum bag but that man can coach and win games. I think he is the best head coach that has been hired this off season. The guy took both UL and Arkansas to highs they hadn't seen in decades. He may not last long, may bolt, may do something stupid, but in terms of coaching there aren't many better ones out there.

[jojo]

Petrino can coach. He may be a scum bag but that man can coach and win games. I think he is the best head coach that has been hired this off season. The guy took both UL and Arkansas to highs they hadn't seen in decades. He may not last long, may bolt, may do something stupid, but in terms of coaching there aren't many better ones out there.

The dude can absolutely coach and is innovative offensively.

It will be interesting to see Chizik's transition to defensive schemes to stop the spread type offenses. He's apparently been hitting the woodshed during his 12 month "sabbatical".

[RedTeamGo!]

He's apparently been hitting the woodshed during his 12 month "sabbatical".

Pardon my ignorance - what does this mean?

[Boston Red]

Lane Kiffin to be Saban's offensive coordinator?

[jojo]

Pardon my ignorance - what does this mean?

He has been studying and interacting with coaches...kind of becoming a student of the game again. He was a phenomenal defensive coordinator and I think he's been studying the emerging offenses. He's likely to be an effective DC for Louisville.

[19braves77]

Lane Kiffin to be Saban's offensive coordinator?

Reports are saying that he is in T town right now interviewing. I am beginning to believe the press comments from players leaving that the psychologist that addressed them after the SB game told Saban that "it's time to rethink how you go about things."

[Puffy]

Reports are saying that he is in T town right now interviewing. I am beginning to believe the press comments from players leaving that the psychologist that addressed them after the SB game told Saban that "it's time to rethink how you go about things."

If "re-thinking" things and Lane Kiffen are in the same answer then the question is all wrong.

[jojo]

Reports are saying that he is in T town right now interviewing. I am beginning to believe the press comments from players leaving that the psychologist that addressed them after the SB game told Saban that "it's time to rethink how you go about things."

The inside favorite is Freddie Kitchens (former Bama QB and current Arizona Cardinals QB coach). He's been an assitant under Saban @ LSU and has other SEC coaching experience as well.

I don't think i'd plan on seeing a dramatic change in the Bama offensive philosophy if he's hired.

[Boston Red]

Did Franklin finally take the Penn State job? What a soap opera that's been.

[dabvu2498]

Did Franklin finally take the Penn State job? What a soap opera that's been.

"Expected to..."

I feel a lil used. And I know what flightaware.com is now.

[Roy Tucker]

Louisville hiring back Petrino means winning trumps everything else.

He'll burn them again sometime. He's done it at every other coaching job he's had.

[jojo]

PSU and JF

http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/reports-james-franklin-will-be-penn-state-s-next-football-coach-1.1613913?utm_medium=manual&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=timestribune

[Slyder]

Louisville hiring back Petrino means winning trumps everything else.

He'll burn them again sometime. He's done it at every other coaching job he's had.

Like someone else has stated....

You can't spell adultery without UL.

[Boston Red]

In a move that is a surprise to absolutely no one, Jeff Brohm will be named HC at Western Kentucky.

UAB will need a head coach now, too, because their head coach is leaving to take the offensive coordinator job at Louisville.

[WVRed]

Louisville hiring back Petrino means winning trumps everything else.

He'll burn them again sometime. He's done it at every other coaching job he's had.

Pretty nice article by Mark Schlabaugh:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10264367/louisville-cardinals-surprise-destination-bobby-petrino

As for Petrino burning the Cardinals again, I think this is Petrino's last stop. He's got too much baggage that no other university is going to hire him for a top opening and no NFL team will look at him after what he did with the Falcons.

He's stuck with Louisville, for better or worse.

[MWM]

I'm disappointed in Louisville. They're better than this.

[jojo]

I'm disappointed in Louisville. They're better than this.

I don't really think they are.

[Boston Red]

I don't really think they are.

We'll deal with you in Atlanta in 2015. :D

[dabvu2498]

UAB will need a head coach now, too, because their head coach is leaving to take the offensive coordinator job at Louisville.

Ed Orgeron. Book it. Unless VU hires Hudspeth away from UL-Lafayette. In which case, the Ragin Cajuns hire their own mascot as head coach.

[bucksfan2]

Pretty nice article by Mark Schlabaugh:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10264367/louisville-cardinals-surprise-destination-bobby-petrino

As for Petrino burning the Cardinals again, I think this is Petrino's last stop. He's got too much baggage that no other university is going to hire him for a top opening and no NFL team will look at him after what he did with the Falcons.

He's stuck with Louisville, for better or worse.

Its kind of amazing what a reputation will do for you. Nick Saben was less than candid with Miami before he jumped ship to Alabama. Did he ever finish his contracts at MSU or LSU before he took another job?

Find me a BCS football program where in the end it isn't about winning. Find me a program where you can get by with losing records year in year out.

[Boston Red]

As for Petrino burning the Cardinals again, I think this is Petrino's last stop. He's got too much baggage that no other university is going to hire him for a top opening and no NFL team will look at him after what he did with the Falcons.

He's stuck with Louisville, for better or worse.

All that may be true, and it may be the reason he sticks around at Louisville if he is on good behavior and winning. But one thing he wasn't lying about: Louisville really is their home. Petrino left his job at UofL in 2007, and his daughter Katie enrolled at UofL on a golf scholarship in 2010.

Now, whether family and home would be enough by itself to keep Petrino from having the wandering eye again if he's successful? The only way anyone is going to believe that is if he actually has other opportunities and does not prusue them.

[MWM]

Find me a program where you can get by with losing records year in year out.

That's kind of a false choice.

[dabvu2498]

Its kind of amazing what a reputation will do for you. Nick Saben was less than candid with Miami before he jumped ship to Alabama. Did he ever finish his contracts at MSU or LSU before he took another job?

Find me a BCS football program where in the end it isn't about winning. Find me a program where you can get by with losing records year in year out.

I don't think Vandy would've ever fired Bobby Johnson.

[dabvu2498]

Speaking of VU, it sounds as though they may have an opportunity to make one more run at retaining Franklin. May just be wishful thinking from nashville though.

[BillDoran]

Ed Orgeron. Book it. Unless VU hires Hudspeth away from UL-Lafayette. In which case, the Ragin Cajuns hire their own mascot as head coach.

James Carville?

[Puffy]

Speaking of VU, it sounds as though they may have an opportunity to make one more run at retaining Franklin. May just be wishful thinking from nashville though.

Wait, you mean ESPN might have prematurely reported something??

Their premature problem might beat my premature problems.

[dabvu2498]

Wait, you mean ESPN might have prematurely reported something??

Their premature problem might beat my premature problems.

Goodman from CBS was actually the first premie.

[Boston Red]

Chizik isn't going to be Louisville's defensive coordinator after all. It is former Baylor coach Kevin Steele. So it's an Alabama guy, not an Auburn one.

[Sea Ray]

Speaking of VU, it sounds as though they may have an opportunity to make one more run at retaining Franklin. May just be wishful thinking from nashville though.

Nahh. I bet the delay is just his agent getting extra goodies from PSU. After VU matched the original PSU offer, he got PSU to incrase it. Franklin knows that this was his peak season. His stud WR is graduating and UT, UF and Ga aren't going to be down like this for long. Now's his chance to cash in

[jojo]

First time I've ever watched Pardon the Interruption and they're talking about PSU and Franklin..their angle? How could PSU do this with the rape trial involving Vandy players?

Is this normal PTI? Cuz I'm finding it unwatchable.

[dabvu2498]

Nahh. I bet the delay is just his agent getting extra goodies from PSU. After VU matched the original PSU offer, he got PSU to incrase it. Franklin knows that this was his peak season. His stud WR is graduating and UT, UF and Ga aren't going to be down like this for long. Now's his chance to cash in

Allegedly the PSU board of trust isn't meeting until Saturday. You mean they can't put together a conference call so they can let everybody get on with their lives? :) Seriously. It's no wonder Al Golden turned them down.

Also, David Williams is really putting himself out there in the media in ways he wouldn't have to if he really thought Franklin was leaving.

Also, VU has a really nice shot at winning 8-9 regular season games next year, no matter who the coach is.

[dabvu2498]

First time I've ever watched Pardon the Interruption and they're talking about PSU and Franklin..their angle? How could PSU do this with the rape trial involving Vandy players?

Is this normal PTI? Cuz I'm finding it unwatchable.

The Pennsylvania media has been covering that angle for a couple days. The national media picked up on it this afternoon.

[dabvu2498]

http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/01/heres_why_penn_states_deal_wit.html

I'd say all of this is plausible.

However... They have to formally post the job? I understand that's likely state law... But jeez. Why wasn't it done the day after O'Brien left town???

[Tom Servo]

http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/01/Jaguars.jpg

[KronoRed]

See I've heard a different take on that, that Coughlin told everyone to go find new jobs because he thought they were all getting fired.

[dabvu2498]

Nahh. I bet the delay is just his agent getting extra goodies from PSU. After VU matched the original PSU offer, he got PSU to incrase it. Franklin knows that this was his peak season. His stud WR is graduating and UT, UF and Ga aren't going to be down like this for long. Now's his chance to cash in

Actually, it may end up being just the opposite...

Allegedly, the buyout in Franklin's VU contract is tied to the facilites upgrades that he requested in the same contract. So we're talking a pretty substantial amount of money. Money that PSU would like to negotiate down. So that's why you're hearing the "James Franklin is my football coach" rah-rah from David Williams. It's a public reminder to PSU that there's a contract that says VU has to get paid if Franklin leaves.

Supposedly Franklin has had a foot out the door for a couple weeks now. His assistants too. The assistants following the PSU recruits and players on twitter and a few other things have sort of burned the bridges at VU so VU isn't really trying to keep him anymore, but VU is going to get all they can monetarily in the process.

[KoryMac5]

Golden was never an option for PSU, it was always Franklin and after that Greg Roman. The rape trial has been a concern only to those at PSU who want a Penn State guy to take over the program. The DA has already cleared Franklin of any wrong doing in this case.

It's a great get for PSU, Franklin was a very hot commodity.