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SidneySlicker
04-02-2014, 12:17 PM
Cincinnatians are we going to get the game in tonight?

cumberlandreds
04-02-2014, 02:21 PM
RedLeg lineup for tonight:


1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF
5. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
6. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
7. Zack Cozart (R) SS
8. Brayan Pena (S) C
9. Tony Cingrani (L) P

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 03:16 PM
Is that the worst 7-8 hitter in the NL right now? Completely understand it is because of Mez being injured, but wowzer.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 03:52 PM
Radar does not look good at all for getting the game in. Tomorrow's forecast is even worse.

REDREAD
04-02-2014, 04:07 PM
ok, I give up.. tried to reply twice and response got eaten.

The Reds 7-8 hitters are fine. Astros are worse. Brewers and Cubs are comparable (depends on the day and who is playing).

klw
04-02-2014, 04:40 PM
Radar does not look good at all for getting the game in. Tomorrow's forecast is even worse.
http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/RadarLoop/bwg_None_anim.gif

redsmetz
04-02-2014, 04:54 PM
I said to my wife this morning that I bet the Reds and Cardinals wish they had played yesterday and then had the off day today. It was absolutely gorgeous all day.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 05:37 PM
It could be a while before the Reds get to play again.

There is an 80% chance of rain tonight, 90% tomorrow and 80% chance of rain for the first game in New York Friday night.

KYRedLeg
04-02-2014, 06:40 PM
Any idea what's actually going on? FSO is showing basketball and don't have their usual "Rain Delay" banner under their logo. I'm assuming things are delayed right now?

KittyDuran
04-02-2014, 06:43 PM
Well I'm here but in my car. Went and got my calendar-then bought a sub at Jimmy Johns. Since it's thundering and lightning you can't sit in the seats. Might as well ride it out. Also, brought my Nook to read while it stays light. :)

KYRedLeg
04-02-2014, 06:45 PM
Nevermind, FSO just switched over to Reds Live in the middle of a lineup discussion. Guess somebody was asleep at the wheel.

SidneySlicker
04-02-2014, 06:45 PM
Any idea what's actually going on? FSO is showing basketball and don't have their usual "Rain Delay" banner under their logo. I'm assuming things are delayed right now?
At this point point they act like the game is on but, they have not given any sort of start time.

Edit: seeing as it's supposed to be much worse conditions tomorrow it would seem that they'll do everything they can to play this game tonight.

757690
04-02-2014, 06:47 PM
A rainout might help the Reds, pushing all the starting pitchers one day, making Simon starting unnecessary.

CTrent did tweet that they would likely get the game in, however.

CardsFanBob
04-02-2014, 06:49 PM
Our beat writer said that no way that this starts until 8:30. And it will likely be later. Wish I knew if he meant eastern or central.

KYRedLeg
04-02-2014, 06:58 PM
Our beat writer said that no way that this starts until 8:30. And it will likely be later. Wish I knew if he meant eastern or central.

FSO just announced 8:30 Eastern time.

SidneySlicker
04-02-2014, 06:59 PM
They just confirmed on the telecast that it will be at least 8:30 before this game starts.

redsfaninbsg
04-02-2014, 06:59 PM
Looking at radar, I'm not sure they'll play again until Friday. I want to see them play but, in the grand scheme of things this may be better.

PepperJack
04-02-2014, 07:03 PM
Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 2m
Scoreboard reaching deep in the rain delay bag of tricks already. Showing old school Bugs Bunny baseball cartoon #reds


Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 2m
I actually watched this one at home the other day as it turned out.

Tom Servo
04-02-2014, 07:13 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant_nosedrip.gif

I want my Reds baseball.

Kingspoint
04-02-2014, 07:13 PM
That lessons the chances of Simon starting.

klw
04-02-2014, 07:15 PM
It would be great if there was a MLB-wide agreement with the broadcasters that an out of town game could be broadcast while a rain delay was in progress.

DannyB
04-02-2014, 07:18 PM
EI has free games all week

RedsLvr
04-02-2014, 07:22 PM
The field is capable of withstanding 3 inches an hour. Storms/heavy rain should die off in an hour or so. If they don't get this game in today or tomorrow for that matter I'd be absolutely shocked.

klw
04-02-2014, 07:22 PM
At least unlike Oakland and Shawshank, Maine, rainstorms and swimming in raw sewage do not go hand in hand at Great American.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7pu48wMFD1rzhjqmo1_500.gif

http://i.imgur.com/76zSV.gif

cumberlandreds
04-02-2014, 07:29 PM
The more rainouts in April the better for the Reds. Need to get some these guys back soon. If these next two get rained out I would say they would make them both up in May when the Cards come to town next.

Gallen5862
04-02-2014, 07:35 PM
Time Warner Cable is having their free Extra Innings preview.

RedsManRick
04-02-2014, 07:37 PM
It looks like Simon may not need to make a start after all. I'll take a few rainouts.

RBA
04-02-2014, 07:46 PM
Cup of Coffee? Jerry Seinfeld getting ripped off? Also, Dick Enberg has been doing this type of show for the Padres network.

CySeymour
04-02-2014, 07:54 PM
What is the word on when it may start?

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 07:56 PM
Rainout?....I can get us a rainout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYXGOviafig

Tom Servo
04-02-2014, 08:02 PM
Cup of Coffee?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qazvigN800

redsfaninbsg
04-02-2014, 08:02 PM
Why would any Reds fans want this game to be played, other than those at the game?

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 08:07 PM
Why would any Reds fans want this game to be played, other than those at the game?



Just a guess but maybe cuz they've been beisbol deprived for 5 months?

redsfaninbsg
04-02-2014, 08:08 PM
Just a guess but maybe cuz they've been beisbol deprived for 5 months?

I'd rather play STL at full strength.

joshua
04-02-2014, 08:12 PM
I'd rather kick their ass with half the roster on the DL.

Big Klu
04-02-2014, 08:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qazvigN800

If I could like this a million times, I would. :thumbup:

westofyou
04-02-2014, 08:13 PM
Why would any Reds fans want this game to be played, other than those at the game?

Why wouldn't they?

redsfaninbsg
04-02-2014, 08:15 PM
Why wouldn't they?

Logic would dictate the Reds would have a better shot later in the year than now?

Kc61
04-02-2014, 08:18 PM
Not a great sign when most fans are rooting for a rainout.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 08:18 PM
It is the 2nd game of the season and we have fans already praying for rain?

Yikes.

PepperJack
04-02-2014, 08:19 PM
John Fay ‏@johnfayman 31s
Looks like it won't start at 8:30. #Reds say they are monitoring a system to the west. Tarp still on.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Anyone else watching the Pirates/Cubs game? These Cubs aways are terrible.

Cyclone792
04-02-2014, 08:20 PM
Been sitting down here since 5:30, and they just made an announcement that they're waiting on more rain to the west to develop before making a decision. I'd be all for a 10pm start after disgruntled fans leave - give me behind the dugout seats for the price of view level all day. Unfortunately my wife is turning into one of those disgruntled fans eying the exits.

PepperJack
04-02-2014, 08:21 PM
Logic would dictate the Reds would have a better shot later in the year than now?

I don't know how having to play a double header later in the season helps the Reds chances. To me, it would seem like that would mess up the rotation even more, making for sure that someone other than the usual starter gets into the rotation at least once.

Gainesville Red
04-02-2014, 08:24 PM
Logic would dictate the Reds would have a better shot later in the year than now?


Who's to say they'll be healthier then?

Anything could happen! Cholera! MRSA! Anything!

Tadasimha
04-02-2014, 08:31 PM
On a slightly more humorous note, Gio Gonzalez just hit a solo home run off of Bartolo Colon in the Nationals-Mets game. He's had twelve hits in his career and this was his third homer! pretty good for a guy who didn't start to bat regularly until 2012.

PeteRoseDay
04-02-2014, 08:32 PM
The Cardinals dominated us last year with all their injuries. I'd rather just play now.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 08:32 PM
They just said during the Cubs/Pirates broadcast that Ryan Kalish did not swing and miss ONE TIME during his senior year of high school.

How is that even remotely possible?

757690
04-02-2014, 08:37 PM
They just said during the Cubs/Pirates broadcast that Ryan Kalish did not swing and miss ONE TIME during his senior year of high school.

How is that even remotely possible?

I didn't swing and miss one time during my senior year of high school. It was more like 187 times.

757690
04-02-2014, 08:40 PM
The Cardinals dominated us last year with all their injuries. I'd rather just play now.

11-8 is not domination. And if I remember correctly, the Reds had an injury or two last year as well.

redsfaninbsg
04-02-2014, 08:43 PM
I'm really surprised at the amount of fans who want to see this already heavily injured squad play on a field thar has taken heavy water for hours.

Kc61
04-02-2014, 08:46 PM
I'm really surprised at the amount of fans who want to see this already heavily injured squad play on a field thar has taken heavy water for hours.

I'd like to see them play the game. Any word on whether and when?

Beltway
04-02-2014, 08:47 PM
The Cardinals dominated us last year with all their injuries. I'd rather just play now.
Every single one of your posts is about the Cardinals in some way.

PeteRoseDay
04-02-2014, 08:48 PM
Every single one of your posts is about the Cardinals in some way.

I talk about the team to beat, so what? It's baseball discussion.

757690
04-02-2014, 08:50 PM
Every single one of your posts is about the Cardinals in some way.

If I was a Reds fan, pretending to be a Cards fan in a Cards board, all my posts would be about the Reds. Just saying.

PeteRoseDay
04-02-2014, 08:51 PM
Typical "he thinks there is a better team in baseball than the Reds, so he's not a fan."

God forbid there is a better team in baseball, let alone the division.

757690
04-02-2014, 08:52 PM
From CTrent:

@ctrent: This doesn't look good for tonight -- or tomorrow #Reds http://t.co/TgFmq0oENB via @weatherchannel

LexRedsFan
04-02-2014, 08:55 PM
Sucks to be behind the 8 ball on make-up games so early in the year.

757690
04-02-2014, 08:58 PM
Sucks to be behind the 8 ball on make-up games so early in the year.

Reds have an off day, the day before the next time the Cards come to town. Not that tough to make up at least one game.

mbgrayson
04-02-2014, 08:59 PM
Jamie Ramsey ‏@Jamieblog · 3m
No updates yet, but dimes-to-donuts that we play at some point tonight.

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 09:04 PM
This is one of those "get it in no matter what" nights, with the poor forecast for tomorrow.

We've seen this movie before.

WVRedsFan
04-02-2014, 09:17 PM
Removing the tarp now

- - - Updated - - -

Start time 9:50

PepperJack
04-02-2014, 09:17 PM
Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 1m
#reds expect first pitch at 9:50. The postgame fireworks show is now going to happen pregame at 9:20

reds44
04-02-2014, 09:17 PM
Nine fittty play baaawl

George Foster
04-02-2014, 09:23 PM
I know it's just the second game but Hamilton will be feeling the "screws" a little bit that first AB....I know I would after that opening day spectacle.

durl
04-02-2014, 09:23 PM
I wonder what the crowd will be like. :-)

757690
04-02-2014, 09:25 PM
I know it's just the second game but Hamilton will be feeling the "screws" a little bit that first AB....I know I would after that opening day spectacle.

Probably why he's playing CF for a MLB team, and you're talking about him on a message board ;)

George Foster
04-02-2014, 09:26 PM
We decided not to go last night...good decision. We are going to Dallas Friday night....go Cats!

George Foster
04-02-2014, 09:28 PM
Probably why he's playing CF for a MLB team, and you're talking about him on a message board ;)

More games like the last one and he will be joining us:) With that I hope he steals 4 bases tonight, but you can't steal 1st.

Larkin Fan
04-02-2014, 09:28 PM
Looks like the Reds decided to go ahead and play tonight despite the wishes of some that they wouldn't. ;)

Gainesville Red
04-02-2014, 09:33 PM
I'm having Roku issues, I guess?

Worked fine on opening day and most of the evening tonight, but now, when I try to load up a game in mlb.tv I get "Playback error, An error occurred trying to play this stream. Please try again."

Has anyone else had issues like this? First season w/ a Roku and mlb.tv. I was pretty excited. Is this going to be a long, choppy season for me?

drowg14
04-02-2014, 09:37 PM
I'm having Roku issues, I guess?

Worked fine on opening day and most of the evening tonight, but now, when I try to load up a game in mlb.tv I get "Playback error, An error occurred trying to play this stream. Please try again."

Has anyone else had issues like this? First season w/ a Roku and mlb.tv. I was pretty excited. Is this going to be a long, choppy season for me?

I've been having issues with MLB.tv in general this year. The first game I load up takes several minutes, then once I'm in I can switch back and forth pretty easily. So It may not be your Roku.

Gainesville Red
04-02-2014, 09:38 PM
Well, lets hope they get it together.

I prefer watching baseball over not watching.

Edit: (Especially when it's baseball I've already paid for.)

RedsfaninMT
04-02-2014, 09:49 PM
Play ball!

klw
04-02-2014, 09:49 PM
Fwiw Springsteen is giving a free concert in Dallas on Sunday night as part of the Final Four music festival.


Edit: Oops this was supposed to include George Foster's statement about going to Dallas for the weekend.

reds44
04-02-2014, 09:50 PM
There's always issues early in the year. They'll fix it.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 09:50 PM
Hmmmm...Nearly 9pm here. I have to work at 6am and get up at 5am. I have a sneaking suspicion that I won't be watching this whole game. :O) But for now...PLAY BALL!!!

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 09:51 PM
2 hour 40 minute rain delay and they are underway

- - - Updated - - -

Nice pitch. Carpenter strikes out looking.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 09:52 PM
"And this game is underway!"

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 09:52 PM
Ground out to short. 2 outs.

Cedric
04-02-2014, 09:53 PM
Enough people gone I'm close enough to see the acne on Peralta back.

Gainesville Red
04-02-2014, 09:53 PM
Cingrani's throwing smoke.

(P.S.: Update in the Roku sage: Working! Quality? Terrible. I'll get by.)

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 09:54 PM
96 MPH on the corner. Holliday strikes out looking

reds44
04-02-2014, 09:54 PM
Cingrani throws gas

M2
04-02-2014, 09:54 PM
Cingrani just hit 96 on the radar? Wow.

RedsfaninMT
04-02-2014, 09:54 PM
Awright Billy. Get us started.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 09:55 PM
Wow. Tony C is looking GOOOOD.

~edit~ Seems I've got quite the lag. I'm almost a full batter behind RF.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 09:55 PM
Nice! Cingrani looks excellent!

Gainesville Red
04-02-2014, 09:55 PM
Was he throwing 96 last year?

Couple extra miles on the FSN gun?

I can't remember but thought he was usually working 92-94.

drowg14
04-02-2014, 09:56 PM
I didn't get a chance to watch too much baseball last year.. did Cingrani always throw 96?

Playadlc
04-02-2014, 09:56 PM
Cingani doesn't screw around out there. He might be the most confident pitcher on our staff.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 09:57 PM
Hamilton bunts but Carpenter throws him out. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 09:57 PM
Was he throwing 96 last year?

Couple extra miles on the FSN gun?

I can't remember but thought he was usually working 92-94.

Adrenaline. He's pumped.

Superdude
04-02-2014, 09:58 PM
Was he throwing 96 last year?

Couple extra miles on the FSN gun?

I can't remember but thought he was usually working 92-94.

96 wasn't all that rare from what I can remember. Especially when he was healthy early.

I can't help but laugh watching him at this point. Everything I know about baseball says this shouldn't work, yet no can touch him.

Gainesville Red
04-02-2014, 09:58 PM
Adrenaline. He's pumped.

Me too. Go get the speed gun. Lets see what I got.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 09:59 PM
Phillips grounds out to Wacha

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:00 PM
Crappy bunt by Hamilton, but at least he didn't K - baby steps, very very fast baby steps.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:00 PM
Votto lines a double to left

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Career hit #1000 for Votto

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:02 PM
96 wasn't all that rare from what I can remember. Especially when he was healthy early.

I can't help but laugh watching him at this point. Everything I know about baseball says this shouldn't work, yet no can touch him.

You mean because he's almost completely fastballs? That's the thing though. His is a very unusual FB. It's got a bunch of movement on it and while it might not be intentional but his delivery is deceptive too. His hand is behind his head for a long while from the viewpoint of the hitters.

Hey, if it works...stick with it.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:03 PM
Bruce strikes out looking. 0-0 after 1

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:03 PM
Well Hamilton put the ball in play and Votto got the ball out of the infield so baby steps!

Cedric
04-02-2014, 10:05 PM
Bruce strikes out looking. 0-0 after 1

Actually called check swing 3rd strike and very iffy.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:06 PM
That pitch looked good.

kbrake
04-02-2014, 10:06 PM
That should have been another K. Wow.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:07 PM
Nice running catch by Cozart

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:07 PM
Heck of a play by Cozart.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:08 PM
Nice job Cozy. Should've been a punch out...but I'll take the out anyway it comes.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:08 PM
Molina grounds out to short

Cedric
04-02-2014, 10:08 PM
It's taking me 10 innings to jump on board with everyone that wants robot umpires.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:09 PM
Adams flies out to right. 0-0 mid 2nd.

5TimeWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:09 PM
Atta boy Tony.

durl
04-02-2014, 10:09 PM
Efficient pitching, folks. I like it.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:09 PM
I love pitchers who work quickly. Cingrani and Leake excel at that.

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:11 PM
Looking good but got a bit lucky on that last pitch. Adams barely missed it.

Now let's get the kid some runs.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:12 PM
Cards not exactly burning up the score board either the first 11 innings of the year...

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:12 PM
Ludwick flies out to right

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:14 PM
Frazier strikes out swinging.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:14 PM
That was odd. First pitch to Frazier and he just kinda stands up like he tried calling time.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:15 PM
Cozart pops out to 1st. 0-0 after 2

Playadlc
04-02-2014, 10:15 PM
Nice discipline there, Zacky.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:15 PM
Cozart is dreadful at the plate. Thank goodness he can really field the ball.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:15 PM
we might not score a run all year...:cry:

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:17 PM
Cozart is dreadful at the plate. Thank goodness he can really field the ball.

we got about 5 of those right now...

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:17 PM
Cozart is dreadful at the plate. Thank goodness he can really field the ball.

Did you not watch him in the second half last year?

WildcatFan
04-02-2014, 10:17 PM
I love pitchers who work quickly. Cingrani and Leake excel at that.

As does Wacha. We (hopefully) won't be long after midnight.

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:17 PM
#LastTimetheRedsScoredaRun

PeteRoseDay
04-02-2014, 10:17 PM
The bunting isn't going to work out too well for Hamilton. Teams are going to play the 3B extremely shallow because they know he has no power.

Cedric
04-02-2014, 10:18 PM
The lost decade never had a 5-8 this bad.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:18 PM
Bourjous strikes out swinging. 3 Ks.

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:19 PM
The lost decade never had a 5-9 this bad.

And then there was the pitching.....

Captain Hook
04-02-2014, 10:19 PM
Cozart is dreadful at the plate. Thank goodness he can really field the ball.

He'll hit around .250, ops around .650 and show a little power at times. Is that really dreadful for a strong fielding SS?

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:19 PM
What is it Welsh, curve or slider?

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:20 PM
Wong lines out to left

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:20 PM
He'll hit around .250, ops around .650 and show a little power at times. Is that really dreadful for a strong fielding SS?

yes

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:20 PM
He'll hit around .250, ops around .650 and show a little power at times. Is that really dreadful for a strong fielding SS?

.650 is dreadful for anyone. I didn't say he is worthless, he is an excellent defender.

I just hate his plate approach. Sue me.

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:20 PM
Weird things can happen in games started after a long rain delay...

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:21 PM
Wacha strikes out looking. 4 Ks

Red in Chicago
04-02-2014, 10:21 PM
dealin'

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:21 PM
KKKK

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:21 PM
Cingrani is on - get this guy some runs!!!

membengal
04-02-2014, 10:22 PM
Still amazed that scouts and others in the know had such a hard time seeing Cingrani as a starter in the big leagues.

5TimeWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:22 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

PeteRoseDay
04-02-2014, 10:22 PM
Cingrani looks very good. Unfortunately, so does Wacha.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:23 PM
6 more innings like that and we will all tell our friends years from now that we were at "that game." More than 50,000 people claim to have been at Brownings game.:laugh:

membengal
04-02-2014, 10:23 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

Until the team faces a bad one?

WildcatFan
04-02-2014, 10:23 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

Longer than 12 innings.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:23 PM
He'll hit around .250, ops around .650 and show a little power at times. Is that really dreadful for a strong fielding SS?

Exactly. I'll take that any day of the week. The days of the Cal Ripken/Barry Larkin type were short lived.

Although I think he's more of a .700 hitter.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:23 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

Probably until they don't face one of the top pitchers in the NL and more than 11 innings into the season.

kbrake
04-02-2014, 10:23 PM
Longer than 11 innings....

Captain Hook
04-02-2014, 10:24 PM
By most account the Brewers have a decent offense and they were shut out today. As a matter of fact Aaron Harang held them hitless for 6 innings. It happens. At least the Reds are facing good pitchers.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:24 PM
Pena lines out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:25 PM
Cingrani lines out to short

Reds Freak
04-02-2014, 10:25 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

I'd say more than 12 innings would be appropriate.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:26 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

How long do the Cardinals use it?

Early in the season the pitchers tend to have the upper hand. Always have. Patience.

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:26 PM
So how long do we use the opposing pitcher as an excuse for this pathetic offense?

I guess Cards fans can say the same?

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Hamilton strikes out swinging on a pitch in the dirt. 0-0 after 3.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
well....he ain't no Chew....wow..

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Billy needs to settle down. Game is moving too fast for him right now.

Caveat Emperor
04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Billy Hamilton looks completely overmatched by big league pitching.

PeteRoseDay
04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Wow Hamilton, just wow.

redsfaninbsg
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
5 Ks in 6 ABs. The other a bunt, not a good start. On the bright side it can't get worse.

joshua
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
Completely overmatched.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
Tough crowd. LOL.

757690
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
Hamilton still has a big problem with the curve while hitting left handed.

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
On pace for a 2 hour game or one lasting for infinity, depending on your perspective.

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
So how long do the Cards fan blame the opposing pitcher for this pathetic offense?

The chicken littles around here are funny.

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:28 PM
Billy Hamilton looks completely overmatched by big league pitching.
IT'S BEEN 6 ABs!

He had a .902 OPS in the majors in 19 ABs last year.

Small sample sizes are fun!

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:29 PM
Before last September I never really saw video of BHam, has he always had so many moving parts when up to bat?

I feel like with his speed and just putting the ball in play being so important he should have more of a Cal Ripken batting stance. Just my dumb 2 cents.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:30 PM
Carpenter lines a single to left center.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:30 PM
5 Ks in 6 ABs. The other a bunt, not a good start. On the bright side it can't get worse. His OBP is ah.....suffering a little right now.

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:30 PM
Carpenter lines a single to left center.

Lines?

I would have accepted bloops or dinks.

Captain Hook
04-02-2014, 10:31 PM
.650 is dreadful for anyone. I didn't say he is worthless, he is an excellent defender.

I just hate his plate approach. Sue me.

10th best average and 13th best ops out of all mlb SS's. I understand you hate his approach and I respect that be he's hardly dreadful. Not elite but a little above average actually.

Kc61
04-02-2014, 10:33 PM
Tough crowd. LOL.

Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:33 PM
10th best average and 13th best ops out of all mlb SS's. I understand you hate his approach and I respect that be he's hardly dreadful. Not elite but a little above average actually.
He was 13th in OPS among 17 qualifying SS's.

Not a math major, but that's not above average.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:34 PM
Peralta strikes out swinging. 5 Ks

kbrake
04-02-2014, 10:34 PM
They've made the playoffs 3 of 4 years and they won 90 games in what many thought was a "down" season last year. They're not even half way through Game 2. Tough crowd is an understatement.

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:35 PM
Cingrani = Straight Filth

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:35 PM
Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

I was referring to the pouncing on Hamilton after just 6 ab's. 4 of them vs Wainwright, 2 vs the reigning NLCS mvp.

- - - Updated - - -

KKKKK

5TimeWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:36 PM
They've made the playoffs 3 of 4 years and they won 90 games in what many thought was a "down" season last year. They're not even half way through Game 2. Tough crowd is an understatement.

That's what happens when you don't do a thing to improve a team that won 90 games but stumbled down the stretch terribly, and then lost their 2nd best offensive player.

You lose your goodwill

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:36 PM
Holliday grounds out to 3rd. Runner to 2nd.

WildcatFan
04-02-2014, 10:37 PM
Matt Holliday is 0-for-6 with 3 Ks this season.

HE AIN'T READY.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:37 PM
why does Votto always look back at the umpire? Strange... the play is in front of him. the runner being safe or out does not matter much with that guy at 2nd. I noticed it a lot last year..

Red in Chicago
04-02-2014, 10:38 PM
not this time allen

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:38 PM
6 Ks for Cingrani. 0-0 mid 4th

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:38 PM
KKKKKK

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:38 PM
Pitching and defense wins. If we have those 2 this team can win the World Series (ask the Giants). I'll take that over a stud offense.

2-1 wins are still wins.

Oh and this just in: Tony is dealin. Wow

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:39 PM
Cingrani on the other hand - is absolutely ready for the show.

Red Raindog
04-02-2014, 10:39 PM
Matt Holliday is 0-for-6 with 3 Ks this season.

HE AIN'T READY.

But Cingrani sure is ---

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:40 PM
I think Matt Holliday should be sent to AAA. He is clearly not ready for the "big boys"

757690
04-02-2014, 10:40 PM
not this time allen

He must have missed the sign from Matt ;)

M2
04-02-2014, 10:40 PM
Brantley: Votto says you can't amp it up in the clutch, it's just a statistical anomaly.

Thom: [activate Thom Translator] Votto doesn't know squat about hitting, so nyah nyah nyah.

durl
04-02-2014, 10:40 PM
I'm ready for that 1st run of the season...

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:41 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:41 PM
There's probably less than 10 pitchers (starters) in baseball that have the swing and miss stuff that Cingrani has.

Can he harness that gift?

Kc61
04-02-2014, 10:41 PM
Tough crowd. LOL.

Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

It's really a matter of perspective. Some of us aren't satisfied. We don't like getting no-hit and swept in the playoffs, or blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs, or losing six straight to end 2013 with the owner leaving Pirates stadium in disgust. Some obviously are satisfied.

I am not.

Hoosier Red
04-02-2014, 10:41 PM
I don't understand why Allen Craig decided to strike out there. The Cardinals super duper secret plan of hitting the ball with RISP hasn't really worked well so far this year.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:42 PM
That's an aspect of the offseason that never really got talked about. Personally I expect to see a bit of regression from Cingrani (not that we're seeing anything like THAT tonight) but Cingrani replacing Bronson should be a substantial improvement to the rotation. People keep talking about the loss of the 200 IP from Bronson but not what Tony brings to the table. If he's healthy I expect to see better numbers from him than from Bronson.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:43 PM
Votto singles to right. His 2nd hit tonight

Beltway
04-02-2014, 10:43 PM
Cingrani looks awesome tonight. This game is looking a lot like Monday's. Let's hope Wacha makes the mistake this time.

10xWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:43 PM
Great pitching battle so far. Kinda hard to believe Wacha is 22 and Cingriana is 24 and they're both second in their respective rotation.

Captain Hook
04-02-2014, 10:43 PM
He was 13th in OPS among 17 qualifying SS's.

Not a math major, but that's not above average.

Sure, if you want to assume the other 13 MLB teams had better SS's and decided to to let them play that much.

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:43 PM
Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

It's really a matter of perspective. Some of us aren't satisfied. We don't like getting no-hit and swept in the playoffs, or blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs, or losing six straight to end 2013 with the owner leaving Pirates stadium in disgust. Some obviously are satisfied.

I am not.

I would say not many are satisfied, but few are bitter (some are).

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:44 PM
Ready for the show....Mr. Votto.

RedTeamGo!
04-02-2014, 10:44 PM
Thom gushes over Wacha getting 2 straight strikes to begin at bat. Does not say a word when Votto scorches a base hit to the right field.

kbrake
04-02-2014, 10:44 PM
Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

It's really a matter of perspective. Some of us aren't satisfied. We don't like getting no-hit and swept in the playoffs, or blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs, or losing six straight to end 2013 with the owner leaving Pirates stadium in disgust. Some obviously are satisfied.

I am not.

I don't think anyone is satisfied but some of us are still capable of enjoying a really good team. If you you're getting worked up in the middle of Game 2 of 162 and the Reds are being outscored 1-0 on the season I feel bad for those fans.

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:44 PM
Sure, if you want to assume the other 13 MLB teams had better SS's and decided to to let them play that much.
That's terrible logic. The other SS's didn't qualify because they suck at hitting so they were replaced to try to find a better option.

No part of Cozart offensively is average.

Kc61
04-02-2014, 10:44 PM
That's an aspect of the offseason that never really got talked about. Personally I expect to see a bit of regression from Cingrani (not that we're seeing anything like THAT tonight) but Cingrani replacing Bronson should be a substantial improvement to the rotation. People keep talking about the loss of the 200 IP from Bronson but not what Tony brings to the table. If he's healthy I expect to see better numbers from him than from Bronson.

Cingrani is massively underrated because he doesn't conform to the expected norms. The guy simply has a knack for deceiving hitters with his delivery and his fastball. He has been special since the first day of his minor league career.

It would have been nuts to pay Arroyo big money for fear that Cingrani would fail. He's proven himself.

He just needs some runs and he can win this and any game he pitches.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:45 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:45 PM
Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

It's really a matter of perspective. Some of us aren't satisfied. We don't like getting no-hit and swept in the playoffs, or blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs, or losing six straight to end 2013 with the owner leaving Pirates stadium in disgust. Some obviously are satisfied.

I am not.


Jesus Christ. You think anyone is satisfied? Maybe we are just trying to appreciate baseball being back. Can we have 2 games before all the FCBs of the board are tearing the team apart?

villain612
04-02-2014, 10:45 PM
Not a tough crowd at all. If I recall the Reds lost the last five games of last regular season. Then the wild card game. Then Opening Day. They didn't acquire meaningful talent in the off-season. And they haven't scored a run this season.

So I think Reds fans have the right to be ready for the team to do something productive.

It's really a matter of perspective. Some of us aren't satisfied. We don't like getting no-hit and swept in the playoffs, or blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs, or losing six straight to end 2013 with the owner leaving Pirates stadium in disgust. Some obviously are satisfied.

I am not.

I don't think anyone's really "satisfied", but it's all a matter of perspective.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:45 PM
Great pitching battle so far. Kinda hard to believe Wacha is 22 and Cingriana is 24 and they're both second in their respective rotation.

They aren't. At least Cingrani isn't. Just is by default right now. Homer, Latos and Leake are all probably ahead of him...Leake debatable. Wacha is the Cards #2, Tony is our #4 or #5.

5TimeWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:45 PM
Bruce up twice with a runner on, 2 strikeouts.

And now we get to the murderer's Row of the lineup.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:46 PM
Ludwick gets hit in the hand. Hopefully he is ok that did not look good.

Larkin Fan
04-02-2014, 10:46 PM
Man, Luddy can't win.

10xWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:47 PM
Man, not a good spot to hit Ludwick in due to previous injuries.....

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:47 PM
Ball hit Ludwick in the hand and then went off his hand and hit the ump in the side of his head.

durl
04-02-2014, 10:47 PM
Well, Ludwick made it 1 complete game without an injury this year.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:47 PM
No, no, no, no....please don't be hurt. Ludwick hit on the hand.

villain612
04-02-2014, 10:47 PM
Ludwick gets hit in the hand. Hopefully he is ok that did not look good.

The moment I realize my MLBtv feed has a delay.

5TimeWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:48 PM
$8.5 million in 2014...$9 million mutual option for 2015 with a $4.5 million buyout....

WALT'S THE GREATEST!

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:48 PM
Ludwick gets hit in the hand. Hopefully he is ok that did not look good.

kind of a strange pitch from a guy that has been dealin'...just sayin.

Larry Schuler
04-02-2014, 10:48 PM
Naw, man! You don't hit Cutchy and THEN hit Ludwick! That's intentional. That's blood in the water. Heck naw!

EDIT: Oops. Wrong team.

durl
04-02-2014, 10:48 PM
Looks like it might have hit the lower part of his forearm.

Kc61
04-02-2014, 10:49 PM
I don't think anyone is satisfied but some of us are still capable of enjoying a really good team. If you you're getting worked up in the middle of Game 2 of 162 and the Reds are being outscored 1-0 on the season I feel bad for those fans.

If the team would score a run it would help.

Captain Hook
04-02-2014, 10:49 PM
That's terrible logic. The other SS's didn't qualify because they suck at hitting so they were replaced to try to find a better option.

No part of Cozart offensively is average.

It's terrible logic to assume they didn't. Why weren't they playing every day?

SirFelixCat
04-02-2014, 10:49 PM
Nope. Can't take all the *****ing and whining. I'm out.

Larry Schuler
04-02-2014, 10:49 PM
$8.5 million in 2014...$9 million mutual option for 2015 with a $4.5 million buyout....

WALT'S THE GREATEST!

Worst fortune teller in the MLB.

kbrake
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
$8.5 million in 2014...$9 million mutual option for 2015 with a $4.5 million buyout....

WALT'S THE GREATEST!

Is this really what RedsZone has become? Player could possibly be hurt by no fault of his own so we take the chance to complain about the GM?

Larry Schuler
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
Nope. Can't take all the *****ing and whining. I'm out.

Me too. Can't take these people!

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
It's terrible logic to assume they didn't. Why weren't they playing every day?
probably because they can't hit

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
Frazier walks. Bases loaded for Cozart

Kc61
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
Bases loaded for Cozart.

durl
04-02-2014, 10:51 PM
C'mon, Cozart. Make fans happy.

RedsBrick
04-02-2014, 10:51 PM
Not a bad time to collect your first hit Cozart!

M2
04-02-2014, 10:51 PM
I would be more enthusiastic about this situation if Cozart weren't at the plate.

_Sir_Charles_
04-02-2014, 10:51 PM
If the team would score a run it would help.

hehe. Yeah, they're going to go scoreless all year. I know you're not saying that, but it comes across like they're so inept that it's like they're outclassed by the cards. :O)

villain612
04-02-2014, 10:51 PM
Is anyone here lurking on St Louis Cardinals message boards? I'm curious to see if they are also having meltdowns about their atrocious offense too.

10xWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:51 PM
Man that last pitch looked pretty close to a strike... hopefully he gets cozart out here

WildcatFan
04-02-2014, 10:52 PM
Is this really what RedsZone has become? Player could possibly be hurt by no fault of his own so we take the chance to complain about the GM?

The ignore list is your friend. Mine has grown exponentially since the merger.

kaldaniels
04-02-2014, 10:52 PM
I'm still bullish on Ludwick. (Gulp)

10xWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:52 PM
Is anyone here lurking on St Louis Cardinals message boards? I'm curious to see if they are also having meltdowns about their atrocious offense too.

One game??? Atrocious?? Aren't you putting the cart before the horse here??? Seems way too early especially against a couple of good pitchers.

Kc61
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Good at bat by Zack so far. Even took a few pitches.

Out, three down, but Zack had a decent approach that time.

Reds Fanatic
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Cozart grounds into a force at 3rd. 0-0 after 4.

reds44
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
#lasttimetheredsscoredarun

Beltway
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Ahhhhh, this is sooooo frustrating!

durl
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Got a runner to 3B, at least. :-)

5TimeWSChamps
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Well, the Reds clutch hitting is in mid-season form at least.

villain612
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
One game??? Atrocious?? Aren't you putting the cart before the horse here??? Seems way too early especially against a couple of good pitchers.

I was being sarcastic.

(if you are being sarcastic too, then well played my friend)

kbrake
04-02-2014, 10:53 PM
The ignore list is your friend. Mine has grown exponentially since the merger.

I have never used it but will have to start or I won't last real long this season. Everything has changed since the merger.

George Foster
04-02-2014, 10:54 PM
I think you got to protect your team mates and at least get a Cards uniform dirty in the batters box right here.