4/13/14 Reds vs. Rays - Let's win this...please?

[NebraskaRed]

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[mu4103]

Puzzling line-up with Ludwick 0 for his last 10 and being a Sunday. I expected some people to take a rest day today. (Bruce or Ludwick at least)

[indyscott]

Puzzling line-up with Ludwick 0 for his last 10 and being a Sunday. I expected some people to take a rest day today. (Bruce or Ludwick at least)

My guess is going against a LH and no other better options.

[mu4103]

I guess Price want to see how the team responds after the team meeting.

[Kc61]

Puzzling line-up with Ludwick 0 for his last 10 and being a Sunday. I expected some people to take a rest day today. (Bruce or Ludwick at least)

Dusty would have rested some guys. Dusty's philosophy apparently was to have rest days pre-arranged, regardless of the opposing pitcher. Sundays in particular.

Price, I think, is focused today on a lefty pitcher who has been a long reliever. He's trying to get his righty bats going. So he's leaving his starting players in there. He's moved Frazier to cleanup because of the lefty pitcher. Bruce to fifth.

I like Price's approach. One thing that frustrated me with Baker was he sometimes would rest guys against good pitching matchups for them. So, for example, he might play Bruce against a lefty and rest him against a righty.

But I must say Dusty was often proven correct, it often worked out fine. It might be better just to give a guy "next Sunday off" and not worry too much about the matchups.

Hope it works out today. I'm confident, Reds are good at salvaging games in lost series to avoid being swept.

[Stray]

I'll be happy if we can at least score a run today. Baby steps.

[villain612]

I like Price's willingness to mix things up and go unconventional at times. I never thought I'd see Joey hitting in the 2 hole again.

Not sure if batting Phillips after him is the way to go, but at least there's some mixing it up.

[texasdave]

Brandon Phillips must have been an opera singer in a previous life. Me-Me-Me-Me-Me. Here-I-Go! Here-I-Go! Someone please tell DatDude he isn't fast any longer.

[kbrake]

Like Price's ability to mix it up and try new things but really wish he wouldn't have abandoned the Votto/Bruce back to back so quick.

[mth123]

Heisey should be in CF against the LHP. Hamilton needs to be limited to RHP so he hits lefty and stands a step closer to 1B. His OBP as a minor leaguer has been higher against RHP. Short of sending him to AAA, it's the best way to incur the least damage from his outs in the line-up. He should probably hit 9th with the pitcher eighth.

[villain612]

Like Price's ability to mix it up and try new things but really wish he wouldn't have abandoned the Votto/Bruce back to back so quick.

That's what I was thinking.

[UPRedsFan]

Heisey should be in CF against the LHP. Hamilton needs to be limited to RHP so he hits lefty and stands a step closer to 1B. His OBP as a minor leaguer has been higher against RHP. Short of sending him to AAA, it's the best way to incur the least damage from his outs in the line-up. He should probably hit 9th with the pitcher eighth.

Agree. Not ready to bench him or send to AAA, but limit his games and at bats. Would be a good day to start Heisey against the LHP

[Reds Fanatic]

Tampa Bay lineup:

Ben Zobrist LF
Desmond Jennings RF
Evan Longoria 3B
Wil Myers RF
Logan Forsythe 2B
Yunel Esobar SS
Ryan Hanigan C
Cesar Ramos P
Sean Rodriguez 1B

[RedsBrick]

Like Price's ability to mix it up and try new things but really wish he wouldn't have abandoned the Votto/Bruce back to back so quick.

I suspect we'll see it again at some point.

[RedTeamGo!]

Frazier to 4th... Bruce to 5th... This is quickly becoming a joke

[villain612]

Frazier to 4th... Bruce to 5th... This is quickly becoming a joke

I'm not a big fan of splitting Bruce and Votto up....but in fairness, Frazier has a better AVG and the same amount of home runs as Bruce so its not an insane move.

[KYExtemper]

Heisey should be in CF against the LHP. Hamilton needs to be limited to RHP so he hits lefty and stands a step closer to 1B. His OBP as a minor leaguer has been higher against RHP. Short of sending him to AAA, it's the best way to incur the least damage from his outs in the line-up. He should probably hit 9th with the pitcher eighth.

I really like this idea. Still lets Hamilton potentially get on base, while having a more reliable guy lead off the game.

[KittyDuran]

Very windy right now @ GABP... :(

[Gallen5862]

The Reds game is listed to be shown on the MLB Network at 1PM.

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm not a big fan of splitting Bruce and Votto up....but in fairness, Frazier has a better AVG and the same amount of home runs as Bruce so its not an insane move.

Smells like desperation to me

[RedTeamGo!]

Why do you think it's a joke?



Because price is making drastic changes to the lineup and it seems like desperation moves. Has nothing to do with the numbers.

[kbrake]

Because price is making drastic changes to the lineup and it seems like desperation moves. Has nothing to do with the numbers.

I don't think it is all that drastic. The problem is outside of Rocco no one in this lineup is meeting or exceeding expectations. Until the bats come around, which they will, nothing Price can do is going to be really drastic.

[Kc61]

It is not good to hit Votto and Bruce together against lefties. I am aware of nobody who wants them hitting back to back against lefties. The pitcher today is a lefty.

Against righties, a different issue. Against lefties, no issue.

[757690]

Heisey should be in CF against the LHP. Hamilton needs to be limited to RHP so he hits lefty and stands a step closer to 1B. His OBP as a minor leaguer has been higher against RHP. Short of sending him to AAA, it's the best way to incur the least damage from his outs in the line-up. He should probably hit 9th with the pitcher eighth.

I would rather sit him against tough RH. His biggest weakness is hitting good offspeed stuff from a RH. Hamilton's RH swing is much better than his LH swing. His numbers as a LH are better because of the bunt.

[kbrake]

Not a good AB from Hamilton.

[757690]

Reds have a bad history against guys making their first career start.

[kbrake]

Not a very good AB from Votto either.

[TheBigLebowski]

Watching this team hit should be considered a form of abuse.

[Larkin Fan]

Not a good AB by Phillips. Guess we had to go for the trifecta.

[malcontent]

I'd like to see what Votto could do with that slider (or anything else) if he wasn't choking up 3 inches.

[Tony Cloninger]

2 batters in..... Hamilton swings at a ball at his shoulders almost on 2-1. Votto was swinging defensively and doing his check swing then kinda swinging but not really sure I want to swing.

Some of the worst cripple hitters I have seen ..... 2-1, 2-0.... they look more like they are trying to protect the plate or swing at balls... behind the count they have a hard time just protecting the plate.

2 batters in... and I am already frustrated. :laugh:

[TheBigLebowski]

Clean inning from Tony C.

[RedTeamGo!]

It is not good to hit Votto and Bruce together against lefties. I am aware of nobody who wants them hitting back to back against lefties. The pitcher today is a lefty.

Against righties, a different issue. Against lefties, no issue.

That is a non- factor with Phillips batting 3rd

[757690]

2 batters in..... Hamilton swings at a ball at his shoulders almost on 2-1. Votto was swinging defensively and doing his check swing then kinda swinging but not really sure I want to swing.

Some of the worst cripple hitters I have seen ..... 2-1, 2-0.... they look more like they are trying to protect the plate or swing at balls... behind the count they have a hard time just protecting the plate.

2 batters in... and I am already frustrated. :laugh:

Terrible swing by Hamilton, but MLB gameday had it 1-2. The first pitch was called a strike, according to Gameday. FSO did have it as 2-1, not sure which was right.

[RedTeamGo!]

Votto knows way more about hitting that me obviously, but time to stop choking up like Juan Pierre

[kbrake]

Is Votto choking up the entire time or do you guys just want him to stop choking up with 2 strikes?

[redsfaninbsg]

I know it's a weekend and the weather has been great but the attendance has been awesome.

[RedsLvr]

Votto knows way more about hitting that me obviously,

This is probably where that sentence should have ended.

[Playadlc]

Bruce clearly missed the hit and run sign there.

[RedsLvr]

I know it's a weekend and the weather has been great but the attendance has been awesome.

I love it! Hopefully we pick things up on the field. Good walks by Bruce and ludwick. We need more smart at bats.

[Tony Cloninger]

Terrible swing by Hamilton, but MLB gameday had it 1-2. The first pitch was called a strike, according to Gameday. FSO did have it as 2-1, not sure which was right.

It was? OK...yes they did have it 2-1... which is why I could not understand why he swung at that.

MLB Network lied to me and sad this was the game they were showing....over and over and over for last 2 days.

Where can I send my complaints?

[Raisor]

Rocco awaits.

[Tony Cloninger]

This is probably where that sentence should have ended.

With all due respect ..... chocking up from the beginning of the AB to the end, half swinging and swinging defensively.....makes me wonder what he is experimenting with in that AB.

He can take all all the pitches he wants but like it was stated...to choke up for the whole AB like Juan Pierre is a little extreme.

[Raisor]

I want them alive Rocco.

But Mike!

ALIVE!

[757690]

Anyone confident the Reds score this inning?

[Raisor]

Great at bat by Rocco.

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Anyone confident the Reds score this inning?
Not sure about the reds, but I have a good shot

[kbrake]

With all due respect ..... chocking up from the beginning of the AB to the end, half swinging and swinging defensively.....makes me wonder what he is experimenting with in that AB.

He can take all all the pitches he wants but like it was stated...to choke up for the whole AB like Juan Pierre is a little extreme.

I didn't notice it until 2 strikes. Something to look for in his next AB.

[Raisor]

Pinch hit for Cozart?

[757690]

Ducks on the pond for Cozart. Hooray

[757690]

I'm giving Cozart the take sign until there are three strikes on him.

[KYExtemper]

Good for us that the Rays decided to start a relief pitcher today....

[Chuckie]

Ground rule double for Cozart. 2-0 Reds.

[Red in Chicago]

ZACH!!!

[kbrake]

Much needed. Glad to see it especially for Cozart as much as he has struggled. 2-0 Reds.

[757690]

I love being wrong.

[RedsLvr]

We're good again!!

[Tom Servo]

Runs!

[CySeymour]

Cozie!!!

[757690]

Cozart's warming up. Hopefully Hamilton is next.

[KYExtemper]

Ah! Cozart gets a hit! It's a miracle!

[Chuckie]

I'm giving Cozart the take sign until there are three strikes on him.

I almost said I can't believe he didn't wait until he got a strike (when he swung and missed at the 1-0 pitch). But I'll take it. ;)

[NebraskaRed]

I'll take it! But darn, I thought that was out of here.

[Larkin Fan]

Am I dreaming or did I just see cozart hit an RBI double?

[Raisor]

Pinch hit for Cozart?

Cozart is on fire!

[Tony Cloninger]

I didn't notice it until 2 strikes. Something to look for in his next AB.


If I am wrong, let me know. He just looked like a pitcher hitting that AB. I am sure he is just trying to figure him out.

Good for Cozart. This guy is Not the next Ray Oyler!

[Raisor]

Cozie!!!

This is a family message board.

[Chuckie]

But we look like the Bad News Bears and the inning ends there. Wow.

[Red in Chicago]

what a joke

[Raisor]

Wtf

[kbrake]

Hahahaha wonder what was discussed in the team meeting.

[Tom Servo]

lol vintage Reds

[757690]

Well, at least the Reds will make Sportscenter tonight, lol.

[KYExtemper]

What the hell!?!?!?!

[Larkin Fan]

Yep, we got stupid again.

[Chuckie]

Going on contact there with the pitcher up, the infield in and the catcher on third? What?

[Red Raindog]

Yep, we got stupid again.

I guess they forgot "play smarter" at the meeting

[redsfaninbsg]

Fundamental baseball............

[Rantly]

LOL Marty always blows a fuse when the Reds make base running blunders

[kbrake]

3rd out we have made at the plate by sending a runner on contact with the infield playing in. Would be cool with ending that practice as soon as possible.

[Playadlc]

Dumb teams make dumb plays.

[Tom Servo]

I vote the Reds officially retire the "go on contact from third" strategy moving forward.

[RedsLvr]

Hahahaha wonder what was discussed in the team meeting.

Probably some stuff about staying aggressive and mentally strong. If you think they talked anything about fundamentals you'd be dead wrong.

[kbrake]

The Reds keep running the bases like this and I hope that we will allow profanity during game threads only. Only way I think we can handle an entire season of this.

[Chuckie]

3rd out we have made at the plate by sending a runner on contact with the infield playing in. Would be cool with ending that practice as soon as possible.

At least we haven't been burned by the shift or anything.

[malcontent]

Cingrani obviously forgot there was only one out.

Throw a shutout and we'll forget it.

[Chuckie]

LOL Marty always blows a fuse when the Reds make base running blunders

Like father, like son. Thom just acted like we lost the game.

[CySeymour]

Ok, so Meso was out at the plate, I get. How did the third out come?

[mth123]

I would rather sit him against tough RH. His biggest weakness is hitting good offspeed stuff from a RH. Hamilton's RH swing is much better than his LH swing. His numbers as a LH are better because of the bunt.

Neither side is major league caliber. As a LH bat he has a better chance to beat out an IF hit.

[Ironman92]

The entire starting OF is a collective 0-28 coming into this game.

[kbrake]

Ok, so Meso was out at the plate, I get. How did the third out come?

Cozart also out at the plate. You know like all those times we have seen a team get two runners thrown out at the plate on the same play.

Cingrani rounded first like he had no idea what was going on. He got in a rundown and they threw home to get Cozart to complete the double play.

[Red Raindog]

Ok, so Meso was out at the plate, I get. How did the third out come?

TC rounded first & got trapped -- so Cozie tried to score

[UPRedsFan]

Not Cozarts fault for being thrown out at home. Once Cingrani gets hung up he has to try to score because Cingrani will be the 3rd out of the inning. Fault Mes and Smith for going on contact with the infield in, and fault Cingrani for getting hung up.

[KYExtemper]

Ok, so Meso was out at the plate, I get. How did the third out come?

Cingrani was caught in a run down between 1st and 2nd and they tried to sneak Cozart home and the third baseball gunned it to Hanigan and he tagged out Cozart.

[Ironman92]

Anyone keeping track of base running gaffes this year? Us versus them?

[TheBigLebowski]

Worst baserunning team in the history of the game.

[CySeymour]

ah, ok. Yeah, Cingrani is a pitcher but that's basic baseball.

[kbrake]

Not Cozarts fault for being thrown out at home. Once Cingrani gets hung up he has to try to score because Cingrani will be the 3rd out of the inning. Fault Mes and Smith for going on contact with the infield in, and fault Cingrani for getting hung up.

Price deserves blame too. They keep running on contact with the infield in and it keeps burning them. Time to change that strategy.

[Raisor]

Worst baserunning team in the history of the game.

That's bold talk for a one eyed fat man.

[Red in Chicago]

sigh

[KYExtemper]

Welp, that lead didn't last long!

[Tony Cloninger]

Only the 1908-10 Cincinnati Reds with Bob Bescher, Dode Pasket and Hans Lobert could get away with running at will ...in any situation. Those guys were fast. Look at the old film footage and see how fast they moved even while they were just standing around.

[Tom Servo]

Ah, I remember when we had a lead...

[KittyDuran]

That was a no-doubter...

[redsfaninbsg]

I wish I could say I was surprised.

[Raisor]

That was a no-doubter...

This thread is no place for a lady. You fit right in. ;)

[kbrake]

If Zobrist were a Red I'm convinced he would have passed the lead runner on his home run trot costing the team the 2 runs.

[Larkin Fan]

Ah, I remember when we had a lead...

Those were the days...

[RedsLvr]

That was a no-doubter...

It went like ten feet over.. Doesn't go out in 25 other parks.

[Tom Servo]

Welp, score some more runs boys.

[KittyDuran]

Cingrani obviously forgot there was only one out.

Throw a shutout and we'll forget it.

Give me 11 strikeouts so I can get a free pizza and I'll forget about it. ;)

[Tony Cloninger]

Price deserves blame too. They keep running on contact with the infield in and it keeps burning them. Time to change that strategy.


Price = Don Heffner?

I am kidding of course ..... however there is nothing funny about Don Heffner and the1966 season.

[malcontent]

What to make of Cingrani's mig-game dips in velocity?

[KYExtemper]

If Cingrani is going to give up hits he should give them up to Jennings. Help out my fantasy team!

[Raisor]

Fast Billy gets on!

[Chuckie]

The best part about watching Billy get hits is watching the outfielder scramble like crazy to get the ball into second as quickly as possible. I love it.

[Reds Freak]

When the Reds score, they can't pitch. When they pitch, they can't score.

[757690]

Hamilton with a hit to LF. This could be fun.

[Chuckie]

If Cingrani is going to give up hits he should give them up to Jennings. Help out my fantasy team!

No, no. Myers, dude. Wil Myers.

HR for Votto!!!

4-2 Reds.

[kbrake]

Best Votto swing in a LOOOOOOOOONG time.

[Raisor]

Boom.

[RedsLvr]

THAT was a no doubter

[Tom Servo]

Votto! :jump:

[Red in Chicago]

now that was a no doubter

[SirFelixCat]

CRUSHED!

[Larkin Fan]

Do some still have doubts about Votto's power?

[bigredmechanism]

Joey's back?

[KYExtemper]

Alright! Go Votto!

[Raisor]

Hamilton with a hit to LF. This could be fun.

It was.

[NebraskaRed]

That crack of the bat was the sweetest sound

[malcontent]

Votto no choke up...HR.

[KYExtemper]

Why is Ramos pitching for the Rays anyway today?

[757690]

That sucks. I really wish Votto has taken more pitches to give Hamilton time to run.

[Tony Cloninger]

Hey Cloninger! I got your choke job right here!

[Slyder]

Way to go Joey Grace!!!!

[kbrake]

I don't think he chokes up until he has 2 strikes on him.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Jay Bruce - 166
13. Brandon Phillips - 161
14. Gus Bell - 160
15. Joey Votto - 159
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Ironman92]

It went like ten feet over.. Doesn't go out in 25 other parks.

Wrong

[RedsLvr]

I'm excited that I've been seeing quality at bats over the last couple of innings. Good hustle by Phillips there. Wish he would do that when he hits a ground ball with a runner on first .

[Red in Chicago]

nice slide:lol:

[Larkin Fan]

What do you call that "slide" Phillips?

[RedsLvr]

I also like what happens when billy Hamilton gets on base and votto is up. I feel like if we want the power numbers from votto that's what needs to happen.

[KYExtemper]

Well, at least we have Mesoraco hitting here with 2 men on.

[SirFelixCat]

While I agree w/ others that Billy's speed plays better later in the lineup, I do like the idea of Votto seeing more FB's w/ Slidin' Billy on base. :thumbsup:

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Beethoven K's.


Rocco up

[malcontent]

Ludwick no chance on 3 sliders.

Time for a LF platoon with Bernadina.

[kbrake]

ROCCO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Red in Chicago]

crushed

[Raisor]

Rocco!

[RedsLvr]

THAT was a no doubter

[Krawhitham]

I think we kept the right catcher

[SirFelixCat]

Even more smoken than Joey!

[NebraskaRed]

Rocco!!

[Larkin Fan]

This is Rocco's year.

[SirFelixCat]

It's early...but maybe we have our #3 hitter soon?

[KYExtemper]

Maybe one commenter on ESPN's idea of hitting Mesoraco fifth wasn't a bad idea after all...

[Raisor]

Cozart...is...on...fire.

[Red in Chicago]

cozart hit parade

[Larkin Fan]

Holy heck, Cozart is 2 for 2.

[TheBigLebowski]

Wowza!!!

[NebraskaRed]

Cozart's facial expression tells you that he can't believe it either.

[kbrake]

Hamilton, Votto, Bruce, Mes.......

[757690]

Reds need another big RH bat for the middle of the lineup. They might have found him.

[Ironman92]

That Mesoraco HR would've not been a HR in 25 other stadiums.....lol

[Raisor]

Cingrani is sneaky fast.

[Red in Chicago]

boot-scootin

[Ironman92]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/14/ge3uruhe.jpg

Must be 25 really big parks in MLB

[Raisor]

Hamilton needs to do push-ups

[757690]

Hamilton needs to get rid of the upper cut.

[Ironman92]

Cingrani is sneaky fast.

Pitching and running

[NebraskaRed]

Hamilton up for the second time this inning.

[Krawhitham]

443 ft for Mes HR

[Raisor]

He may run like Hayes, but he hits like his mother.

[KYExtemper]

Time for the guys to pad their stats today with this depleted Rays bullpen.

[malcontent]

That's the Cingrani slider.

[BCubb2003]

At this rate, this is going to distort the run differential.

[KittyDuran]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/14/ge3uruhe.jpg

Must be 25 really big parks in MLB

I referred to the Rays' HR that tied it up as a "no-doubter". RedsLvr was referring to that one.

[KYExtemper]

On the radio they said that Votto's HR nearly hit that Toyota sign, so some lucky fan nearly won a truck.

[Tom Servo]

lol angry bald guy

[Tom Servo]

Reds go 1-2-3 in the fourth.

[Chuckie]

It's a long season. Let's not use up our yearly allotment of runs today.

Kidding. I'm loving this. 4-8 really isn't that bad. If the team had a 4-8 stretch midway through the season we'd think nothing of it. But because we're starting the season 4-8 (if we win today) it just feels a lot worse.

This team's quality pitching will keep us in almost every game. Hopefully the offense comes around. Wow has Mez been a huge boost.

Speaking of which, are we going with "Mez" or "Rocco" as the nickname? This is important stuff. ;)

[NebraskaRed]

lol angry bald guy

Matt Adams was disappointed in the lack of shoving

[Chuckie]

Hanigan's "catcher ERA" is taking a serious hit today.

Also: Hanigan raises show dogs? What the heck?

[Tom Servo]

Single and a walk to start the fifth. C'mon Tony.

[Chuckie]

I love when Cingrani goes all "Mean Face." It usually means outs.

[KYExtemper]

Nice job by Cingrani to work himself out of trouble.

[Tom Servo]

Great comeback. 2 strike out and an absolutely sawed off broken bat ground out to end the frame.

[NebraskaRed]

More often than not, when he's in a sticky situation, Cingrani does not get flustered.

[malcontent]

I love it when Cingrani gets in a mood.

[BCubb2003]

Speaking of which, are we going with "Mez" or "Rocco" as the nickname? This is important stuff. ;)

Both. His nickname is "Mez or Rocco".

[Raisor]

Both. His nickname is "Mez or Rocco".
That's correct except it's only Rocco.

[RedsfaninMT]

I love when Cingrani goes all "Mean Face." It usually means outs.

Yep. Seems Cingrani goes Cerrano more than any Red in my memory. Not toward his bat (though at times that too) but just his general attitude. It's almost as if he says "F you arm. I'll do it myself!)

[Tom Servo]

Bedard in.

Wonder if we can swing a Cueto/Bailey/Votto for Bedard trade?

[_Sir_Charles_]

What a difference a day makes, eh? :O)

[Chuckie]

I'm embarrassed to admit I wanted the Reds to trade for Bedard at one point.

[Chuckie]

LOL at Yunel.

Actually, it was mostly Myers' fault. But Escobar was trying to be cute there and it cost him.

[NebraskaRed]

It's funny when the other guys make stupid mistakes.

[Chuckie]

Nice work Mez. Another RBI. 8-2.

[Tom Servo]

Give me Rocco as the 'RBI guy' over BP.

[Chuckie]

There will be a "Mesoraco should be batting cleanup" thread on the ORG front page by the end of the day.

*I might start it*

[757690]

4 Ribeyes for Rocco.

[WrongVerb]

I thought that was another Rocco Rocket for a minute.

[Kc61]

Maybe today will give some of these hitters a little confidence and trigger some wins.

Or maybe the Reds are just good at losing series but avoiding sweeps.

[RedsfaninMT]

I'm embarrassed to admit I wanted the Reds to trade for Bedard at one point.

I did battle with a guy on ESPN who would be banned immediately from Redszone because of his posting constantly to get a rise. He referred to as the "Montana village idiot" for disagreeing with his idea to trade Bruce for Bedard.

[Wonderful Monds]

I thought that was another Rocco Rocket for a minute.

This is a family board.

[NebraskaRed]

Cozart on base for the third time today.

[Wonderful Monds]

Also the first ~7 pages of this thread are hilarious now in hindsight.

[KYExtemper]

The Rays must've called up some of these pitchers or just signed them because they aren't even on the teams roster page on ESPN.

[Kc61]

Wait a minute. Did Cozart walk? Is there a videotape replay of that? Was ESPN around for play of the day?

[_Sir_Charles_]

There will be a "Mesoraco should be batting cleanup" thread on the ORG front page by the end of the day.

*I might start it*

I've thought for a long time that he'd eventually end up being that guy. Votto, Rocco, Bruce in the middle of the order. I also thought Phillips was well suited for #2, I'm not so sure anymore. It might be Frazier.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm a phan of the phantom cam.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice smooth turn there for Cozart. Not a difficult play, but he just made it look silky smooth. :thumbup:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Walk and a clean single to left. 2 on, 2 down for Escobar

[757690]

This could become serious, real fast.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Darn. Heck of an effort by Frazier. Unfortunately, if he'd missed it completely, Cozart might've been able to get the out. Hard to tell for sure though.

[Kc61]

Hanigan hits lefties pretty well, not righties. Hopefully not this time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

After the IF single, bases jacked for Hanny. 2 down.

[Tony Cloninger]

Also the first ~7 pages of this thread are hilarious now in hindsight.


Well I was frustrated... I mean two hitters in....come on..... you knew it was over after those Hamilton and Votto AB's.

[757690]

Whew.

[Tom Servo]

Trouble avoided.

[malcontent]

Thank god.

Cingrani's future run of 77 consecutive starts without giving up more than 5 hits was in jeopardy.

[KYExtemper]

Whew, another jam worked out of. That'll likely by Tony's last inning.

[_Sir_Charles_]

IF pop out to Votto. 8-2 it stays.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well at least we know that Hanigan still cannot hit much anymore.

[757690]

Looks like Cingrani set a modern day record. 20 straight starts, giving up five hits or less every time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Whew, another jam worked out of. That'll likely by Tony's last inning.

Agreed. I'd pull him now. Rested pen. Solid lead. I'd use Partch, Ondrusek & Christiani...no particular order.

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Looks like Cingrani set a modern day record. 20 straight starts, giving up five hits or less every time.

I thought it was hits allowed. ~edit~ Nevermind, I thought you typed runs allowed.

[757690]

Hamilton making an out the right way.

[Red Raindog]

There will be a "Mesoraco should be batting cleanup" thread on the ORG front page by the end of the day.

*I might start it*

not lying here - I almost posted it before the game started

[KYExtemper]

With 94 pitches, why is Cingrani still out there? No reason to wear him down with an 8-2 lead.

[757690]

Not excited about bringing Cingrani back for the 7th.

[Larkin Fan]

What a play by Votto.

[WebScorpion]

With 94 pitches, why is Cingrani still out there? No reason to wear him down with an 8-2 lead.Apparently, he still had 3 more in him... ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cingrani is done. Christiani coming in. Nice play by Votto...but it probably should've been played by Tony.

[malcontent]

I've always liked Frazier, but he's streaky as hell.

Good move by Price to let Cingrani face the LHH before pulling him for Christiani.

[SirFelixCat]

Joey should have had that (said by a former 1B here).

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto should've had that. At the very least he should've been able to knock it down. Poor effort IMO.

[757690]

Reds are winning, but I still see the same sloppy, uninspired play on defense and the base paths.

[Tom Servo]

Ben freakin Zobrist

[SirFelixCat]

Grrr

[757690]

Really not seeing what Price sees in Christiani.

[KYExtemper]

Saw that one coming after that stubborn AB.

[Reds Freak]

757690 - Sloppy, perhaps, but not sure what you mean by uninspired?

[malcontent]

Hey! Christiani actually has a slider!

[malcontent]

Votto should've had that. At the very least he should've been able to knock it down. Poor effort IMO.
Price would need to talk to about the matador approach for everything off to either side.

Did he use to do that before the knee injury?

[757690]

757690 - Sloppy, perhaps, but not sure what you mean by uninspired?

When was the last time you saw inspired, sloppy play? ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Price would need to talk to about the matador approach for everything off to either side.

Personally, I'd like it if Phillips simply showed him the proper form of getting down on one knee to the side to make SURE that ball can't get through. Ole' ain't gonna work. Brandon's the only one I see doing it the fundamental way. It may not be slick looking, but its the purest form to get it done.

It's not like Votto doesn't know HOW to do it. It's lazy the way he's been doing it. I love Votto, but you can't deny it that those types of plays are simply lazy.

[Tony Cloninger]

Nick C has been fine coming into this game.

He wa snot going to keep his 0.00 ERA all year.

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Personally, I'd like it if Phillips simply showed him the proper form of getting down on one knee to the side to make SURE that ball can't get through. Ole' ain't gonna work. Brandon's the only one I see doing it the fundamental way. It may not be slick looking, but its the purest form to get it done.

His knee is not allowing it?

[_Sir_Charles_]

His knee is not allowing it?

Not buyin' it. At this point, his knee is fine. And he's always done that to some extent.

[757690]

Heath Bell comes in to pitch for the Rays. A few months ago, for around 37 minutes, we were all afraid he'd be coming in to pitch for the Reds.

[NebraskaRed]

Heath Bell makes Corky Miller look like Chris Sale

[Reds Freak]

Personally, I'd like it if Phillips simply showed him the proper form of getting down on one knee to the side to make SURE that ball can't get through. Ole' ain't gonna work. Brandon's the only one I see doing it the fundamental way. It may not be slick looking, but its the purest form to get it done.

It's not like Votto doesn't know HOW to do it. It's lazy the way he's been doing it. I love Votto, but you can't deny it that those types of plays are simply lazy.

Not that I disagree with everything you say, but getting down on one knee to field a ground ball is not really the fundamental way to do it.

[KYExtemper]

Bruce helping me for fantasy today, that's for sure!