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cumberlandreds
04-22-2014, 02:51 PM
No Mez tonight. Is he hurt? No other reason not to play him. The day game is Thursday not tomorrow.


1. Billy Hamilton (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (S) CF
2. Joey Votto (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (L) 1B
3. Brandon Phillips (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) 2B
4. Jay Bruce (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (L) RF
5. Todd Frazier (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) 3B
6. Ryan Ludwick (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) LF
7. Brayan Pena (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (S) C
8. Zack Cozart (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) SS
9. Johnny Cueto (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) P


1. Starling Marte (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) LF
2. Neil Walker (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (S) 2B
3. Andrew McCutchen (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) CF
4. Pedro Alvarez (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (L) 3B
5. Russell Martin (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) C
6. Ike Davis (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (L) 1B
7. Travis Snider (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (L) RF
8. Jordy Mercer (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) SS
9. Edinson Volquez (http://www.baseballpress.com/lineups#) (R) P

OC_Red
04-22-2014, 02:57 PM
Guessing it's a preference thing for Cueto...Price made an interesting comment about how it's not just catchers acclimating to the pitchers but that its a two way street. Maybe Cueto has a better rapport with Pena at this point? Personally, I think I would buy Rocco a Rosetta Stone course on Espanol and tell him he needs to be fluent by the all star break. :)

traderumor
04-22-2014, 03:07 PM
So, how many hits will Neil Freakin' Walker have tonight?

.529/1.063/1.592 you would think he's hitting against the Lost Decade staffs.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 03:24 PM
Snider got suspended 2 games, Martin 1 game for the Brew(er)-ha-ha the other night.

RedsfaninMT
04-22-2014, 04:41 PM
Rosetta Stone won't help much.

wheels
04-22-2014, 05:56 PM
So Volquez is good again? Is that the narrative of the game?

One of the bleeters on MLB network said "We will see how good Johnny really is when goes up against Volquez".







I got nothing.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 06:06 PM
Snider got suspended 2 games, Martin 1 game for the Brew(er)-ha-ha the other night.

Both are listed in the starting lineups, so they might appeal and still play this evening.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 06:39 PM
Both are listed in the starting lineups, so they might appeal and still play this evening.

and I'd bet they get a reduction in at least one of them

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 06:45 PM
I find it funny how most suspensions are appealed in the MLB anyway. And yes, they are usually reduced.

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 07:03 PM
kelch welcomes everyone to "bow tie tuesday" - while wearing a regular tie:rolleyes:

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:04 PM
Both are listed in the starting lineups, so they might appeal and still play this evening.

I fully expect them to both appeal. Just thought I'd pass along the news is all.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 07:08 PM
This bunting thing from BH needs a lot of work

Chip R
04-22-2014, 07:10 PM
This bunting thing from BH needs a lot of work

Well, he can bunt but I think he overdoes it.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 07:11 PM
BH rung up on borderline high & inside pitch -- who is this guy on the mound throwing strikes to start? :(

Tom Servo
04-22-2014, 07:11 PM
Volquez has some damn nerve getting good again in our division.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 07:12 PM
Well, he can bunt but I think he overdoes it.

Anyone know how many bunt hits he has tried & how many worked? -- I'm not counting the ones he whiffed on or faked

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:12 PM
Man, Votto just missed sending that out.

Tom Servo
04-22-2014, 07:14 PM
I am convinced BP is the slowest man alive, slower than even Corky Miller.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:14 PM
Anyone know how many bunt hits he has tried & how many worked? -- I'm not counting the ones he whiffed on or faked

According to my scorebook, which started with game #9, Hamilton has 2 bunt singles. However, I didn't keep track of how many he tried to work that went foul.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 07:15 PM
Phillips is still slow --

Gallen5862
04-22-2014, 07:15 PM
What did BP do? Who can do pbp?

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:16 PM
What did BP do? Who can do pbp?

Hit it to Mercer at SS and got thrown out at first to end the inning.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 07:16 PM
According to my scorebook, which started with game #9, Hamilton has 2 bunt singles. However, I didn't keep track of how many he tried to work that went foul.

Thanks --- he's been thrown out quite a few times trying if the alcohol has not ruined those gray cells

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 07:17 PM
What did BP do? Who can do pbp?

bouncer up the middle fielded in in the OF -- out

Gallen5862
04-22-2014, 07:18 PM
Thanks.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:18 PM
Haha, Marty ripping the lack of attendance by the Pirates tonight: "Lots of fans are here disguised as empty seats."

wheels
04-22-2014, 07:18 PM
Marte is an undisciplined hitter. Cannot lay off breaking pitches.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:18 PM
Cueto strikes Marte out swinging. One down.

Walker then grounds to Phillips, two down.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 07:19 PM
Cueto gets Walker with one pitch. That alone makes me think he is worth extending right now.

Chip R
04-22-2014, 07:20 PM
Haha, Marty ripping the lack of attendance by the Pirates tonight: "Lots of fans are here disguised as empty seats."

The Reds don't have a lot of room to talk.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:20 PM
McCutchen gets aboard on a single to right to stay a perfect 4-for-4 for the series.

BluegrassRedleg
04-22-2014, 07:21 PM
McCutchen is so good it's hard to dislike him, rivalry or not.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:22 PM
Alvarez hits into a field's choice as Cozart tags second base to put out McCutchen. 0-0 after 1.

gilpdawg
04-22-2014, 07:24 PM
Cueto is going to have a good night. He's hitting the mitt without it moving.

texasdave
04-22-2014, 07:24 PM
So Volquez is good again? Is that the narrative of the game?

One of the bleeters on MLB network said "We will see how good Johnny really is when goes up against Volquez.

[QUOTE] I got nothing.

Neither did the MLB bleeter.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:26 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging to start the 2nd. One out.

texasdave
04-22-2014, 07:26 PM
Alvarez hits into a field's choice as Cozart tags second base to put out McCutchen. 0-0 after 1.

Unfortunately, that is quite likely the only way Cozart will touch second tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:27 PM
What did BP do? Who can do pbp?

I nominate Gallen to do pbp just once. :O)

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:27 PM
Frazier is hit by a pitch and takes first.

Raisor
04-22-2014, 07:28 PM
Call the game old man.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:29 PM
Cueto is going to have a good night. He's hitting the mitt without it moving.

The earth adjusts so the mitt is there for him.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:31 PM
Fielder's choice puts Frazier out at second. Ludwick now on 1st. 2 out.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:31 PM
#499 for Poo-holes tonight.

gilpdawg
04-22-2014, 07:31 PM
[QUOTE]So Volquez is good again? Is that the narrative of the game?

One of the bleeters on MLB network said "We will see how good Johnny really is when goes up against Volquez.



Neither did the MLB bleeter.

When he throws strikes he is very good. Right now he is. Next month may be different.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:32 PM
Heck of a snag by Alvarez.

gilpdawg
04-22-2014, 07:32 PM
#499 for Poo-holes tonight.

Rumors of his demise were highly exaggerated. He's healthy now.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:34 PM
5-3 puts out Pena and the top of the 2nd inning is over. 0-0.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 07:34 PM
Both of our catchers are faster than Brandon Phillips. Not a knock. Just an observation.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:34 PM
Rumors of his demise were highly exaggerated. He's healthy now.

I don't mind rooting for him now that he's not with the Cardinals. One helluva player. First ballot'er without a doubt.

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Both of our catchers are faster than Brandon Phillips. Not a knock. Just an observation.

Devin is surprisingly quick for a catcher I think. Add in the hustle and he gets it done.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:37 PM
The upcoming Cozart-Cueto-Hamilton lineup is more than useless.

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Martin walks on 5 pitches to start the bottom of the second.

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 07:38 PM
lol at black eye

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:39 PM
The upcoming Cozart-Cueto-Hamilton lineup is more than useless.

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Martin walks on 5 pitches to start the bottom of the second.

Just think back to 2 days ago. Maybe he'll find that magic again. (zack that is)

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:41 PM
Davis hits into a fielder's choice as Votto throws to Cozart at second. Davis now sits on first. 1 out.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 07:43 PM
A buddy just text me and said that Marty said he's waiting on Votto and Bruce to start swinging well.

Joey Votto- .294/.424/.515

Old man makes me shake my head far too often.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:44 PM
Davis hits into a fielder's choice as Votto throws to Cozart at second. Davis now sits on first. 1 out.

Should've been a DP but apparently the ball was dipped in vaseline. Both Joey and Zack bobbled it.

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A buddy just text me and said that Marty said he's waiting on Votto and Bruce to start swinging well.

Joey Votto- .294/.424/.515

Old man makes me shake my head far too often.

Joey is producing...but his swing is pretty hit and miss right now. Lots of funky hacks.

BluegrassRedleg
04-22-2014, 07:44 PM
Suggesting on radio tonight that Jumbo Diaz could get the call soon.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:45 PM
Ground out to short. Both runners advance. 2nd & 3rd with 2 down.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:45 PM
Pirates strand two when Snider singles to center, but Mercer hits into a 6-3 and Volquez a 4-3 to end the inning. 0-0.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:45 PM
Suggesting on radio tonight that Jumbo Diaz could get the call soon.

Not on the 40.

Ground out to Phillips to end the inning.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:46 PM
Pirates have stranded three runners thus far.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 07:47 PM
Lots of decent AB's against Volquez, then Cozart comes up.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:48 PM
Cozart fouls out to the catcher Martin very quickly. 1 out to start the 3rd.

Tom Servo
04-22-2014, 07:48 PM
Strong AB by Cozart.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:48 PM
This could be a very quick game tonight based on how these pitchers are working.

Cedric
04-22-2014, 07:49 PM
Honestly it's frustrating watching someone as unprofessional at the plate as Cozart. At this point I can't imagine this guy lasts much longer as a starter in the major leagues

RedsfaninMT
04-22-2014, 07:49 PM
Johnny showing Cozart how to battle.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:49 PM
Both laughing at the bunt attempt. Edinson & Johnny. LOL. Still chuckling. :O)

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:49 PM
Cueto hits into a 1-3. 2 outs.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 07:49 PM
Cueto having a better AB than Cozart and at times I'm not sure Cueto knows which end of the bat to hold.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 07:51 PM
Strong AB by Cozart.

I guess we'll have to wait another 20 games for Cozart to hit again.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:51 PM
Hamilton singles to center to bring up Votto.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 07:51 PM
Hamilton with a single. Hope he just tries to get into scoring position right away.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:52 PM
Solid single up the middle for Hamilton.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:52 PM
It's worth a steal here since worst case scenario you start the next inning with Votto.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:52 PM
Should be able to run wild on Volquez

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 07:53 PM
Hamilton singles to center to bring up Votto.

Hamilton may not be doing very much, but he swings better than Cozart.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:54 PM
And Hamilton steals 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:55 PM
#8

I have no problem with him going for 3rd here to be honest.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:55 PM
One idiot panicked and immediately dumped Hamilton in my fantasy league. I grabbed him and sat him on the bench for now.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:57 PM
Unfortunately, Votto hits into a 3-1 and ends the inning to remain hitless (and baseless) for the series. In fact, four of his seven outs have been groundouts.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:57 PM
Joey grounds out to 1st. 0-0 it stays.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 07:59 PM
Marte hits into a 6-3 to start the bottom of the third. 1 out for the Reds.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 07:59 PM
LOL. How do you grow up on an ISLAND and not know how to swim?!?

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 07:59 PM
Unfortunately, Votto hits into a 3-1 and ends the inning to remain hitless (and baseless) for the series. In fact, four of his seven outs have been groundouts.

Without hitting home runs, the Reds just can't seem to get any offense going.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:01 PM
Is it just me or is this Pirates lineup pretty weak tonight? It seems if we can get past Walker and McCutchen at the top then we are pretty good (as long as Ike Davis doesn't come up with the bases loaded).

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Walker flies out to left. 2 down.

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LOL. How do you grow up on an ISLAND and not know how to swim?!?

Maybe he didn't grow up near the water or didn't go to the beach?

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:02 PM
McCutchen hits into a 4-3 and Cueto gets his first 1-2-3 inning of the game. Still 0-0 going into the 4th.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:03 PM
Some Twitter hilarity from last night's game:

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kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:04 PM
Without hitting home runs, the Reds just can't seem to get any offense going.

10 runs the last two games without HR's.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:04 PM
Maybe he didn't grow up near the water or didn't go to the beach?

It's Cuba. Everywhere in Cuba is near the water. Dead center of the island it's only 30 minutes to the water.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:05 PM
It's Cuba. Everywhere in Cuba is near the water. Dead center of the island it's only 30 minutes to the water.

Oh, okay. Wasn't sure what island we were talking about.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:05 PM
Wretched AB from our #3 hitter.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:06 PM
Phillips pops out to third. 1 out.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:08 PM
Bruce hits it into the shift again and is put out 5-3. 2 outs.

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Frazier flies out to center and the Reds are done with the top of the 4th. 0-0.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 08:10 PM
10 runs the last two games without HR's.

OK, but it just seems they have trouble getting going......1 hit through 4 tonight.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:14 PM
Alvarez flies out to center. 1 out.

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Martin is called out on strikes and jaws with the umpire about it.

JaxRed
04-22-2014, 08:14 PM
Rumors of his demise were highly exaggerated. He's healthy now.

We'll see.. He's fighting Father Time. He's undefeated. Let's see where he ends up at end of season.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:15 PM
OK, but it just seems they have trouble getting going......1 hit through 4 tonight.

Well I thought they were doing a good job of at least making Volquez work but then the heart of our order came up last inning and well now I'm not sure what to think.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:15 PM
We'll see.. He's fighting Father Time. He's undefeated. Let's see where he ends up at end of season.

Do we really even know how old Pujols really is?

Phillips puts out Davis 4-3 and that ends the 4th. 0-0.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:15 PM
OK, but it just seems they have trouble getting going......1 hit through 4 tonight.

Volquez is dealing. He's POUNDING the zone and with that changeup...he's doing an excellent job of keeping guys off balance.

This looks like a new pitcher..........unfortunately. 60 pitches...41 for strikes. With his stuff...that'll get it done against anybody.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 08:16 PM
Offenses MIA tonight.....snoozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:18 PM
Offenses MIA tonight.....snoozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz

Enjoy the beauty Cueto is tossing instead. :O)

I'll say this...Ludwick doesn't get cheated on his swings. One of the few guys who takes full out hacks on nearly every swing.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:19 PM
Offenses MIA tonight.....snoozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz

It's definitely put this board to sleep!

Ludwick strikes out in three pitches. Nasty.

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Do we always have to knock it foul when bunting? If you are going to bunt, do it right!

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:21 PM
O/U on pitches Cozart sees is set at 2.5

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:21 PM
Second verse is the same as the first for Pena as a 5-3 puts him down. Two outs.

BluegrassRedleg
04-22-2014, 08:22 PM
Not on the 40.

Ground out to Phillips to end the inning.

Yeah. They said that remains the biggest issue with him.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 08:22 PM
one of these days -- Cozart is going to fall on face swinging

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:23 PM
6-3 ends the inning on Cozart and the Reds have been put down 1-2-3 three times in this game (1st, 4th, and 5th innings).

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:23 PM
Nice play by Mercer to nip Cozart at first.

villain612
04-22-2014, 08:23 PM
I'm late to the party again tonight. What'd I miss so far? Oh wait...

7023

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:25 PM
Yeah. They said that remains the biggest issue with him.

I'd have no problem letting Trevor Bell or Brett Marshall go to bring him up. I don't think you can release guys on the DL can you?

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:26 PM
Haha, love how everyone is appealing their sentence.

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Cueto strikes out Snider, 1 out to start the 5th.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:26 PM
Haha, love how everyone is appealing their sentence.

It's rare when they don't. I can only think of a handful of times when it's happened.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:27 PM
Mercer pops out to Cozart. Two out as this game just keeps rolling along.

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It's rare when they don't. I can only think of a handful of times when it's happened.

I know. I just laugh when they do since most times it's just clear they aren't going to win.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:27 PM
Some jerk trying to get a "cueeeeeto" chant going. Loser.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:28 PM
Cueto strikes out Volquez looking and we head to the 6th. 0-0.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 08:28 PM
Cueto looking great again tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:28 PM
KKKK

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 08:29 PM
offense, please

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:30 PM
I know most don't like pitchers duels....but this is a thing of beauty. Both guys just dominant.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:31 PM
Cards up 2-0 in the 5th over the Mets
No score for the Brewers & Padres (1st)

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:31 PM
Cueto bunts into a tag from Davis. 1 out. Eight straight Reds retired by Volquez.

Our only hit tonight is from Billy Hamilton!

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:32 PM
I know most don't like pitchers duels....but this is a thing of beauty. Both guys just dominant.

This has been a very good game to watch.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:32 PM
Pretty good bunt attempt. Just a bit too hard. 1 down.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:32 PM
Hamilton flies out to McCutchen. 2 out.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:33 PM
Pop out to center from Hamilton. Billy rounding third when McCutchen hauls it in. :O)

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:34 PM
Either Votto or Bruce are going deep on Edinson tonight.

Jay's 4-9 against Volquez. Votto is....well, he's Joey F. Votto.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:35 PM
Votto gets a walk, so the Reds have someone on base!

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:36 PM
Phillips smacks his first pitch into a fielder's choice as Alvarez goes to Walker and the Reds go down in the 6th. 0-0.

Cedric
04-22-2014, 08:36 PM
Thanks for being a pro Joey. Nice hack after a walk Brandon. Where was Brandon when Volquez was throwing 120 pitches in 4 innings back in Cincinnati? Frustrating approaches from these guys.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:36 PM
Votto works a tough AB to finally get a walk. BP first pitch swinging like a true run producer.

gilpdawg
04-22-2014, 08:37 PM
Pujols just hit 500.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:38 PM
Come on guys. That pitch to Brandon was a meatball. One of the worst pitches all night from Volquez. Brandon SHOULD'VE swung at that one. Should've squared it up too unfortunately.

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Pujols just hit 500.

Congrats.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:39 PM
Frazier throws out Marte on a bunt attempt, but Hurdle might be challenging....

Nope.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:39 PM
Dicey throw by Frazier, but Votto scoops it.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:40 PM
Walker grounds into a 3-1. 2 outs.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:44 PM
The last two pitches to McCutchen were borderline according to Gamecast. Cueto doesn't get them and McCutchen goes to 1st on a walk.

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Alvarez smacks one, but it hangs in the air for Ludwick in left and that ends the inning. 0-0 going into the last three innings at PNC Park.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:44 PM
No damage done. Alvarez pops out to end the inning.

villain612
04-22-2014, 08:44 PM
The Reds offense hates Johnny Cueto this season.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:46 PM
This is one of those games where someone is going to hit a HR and that'll be the only run of the game.

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Bruce gets a leadoff single up the middle on the first pitch he sees.

texasdave
04-22-2014, 08:47 PM
Johnny Cueto has now pitched 36 innings and has given up runs in just four of them.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:47 PM
The Reds OPPONENTS hate Johnny Cueto this season TOO.

villain612
04-22-2014, 08:48 PM
Yeah but they're supposed to hate him.

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Man, it would be nice if Rocco was coming up to bat soon.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:49 PM
Reds starting to knock out parts of Volquez's armor as Frazier hits another single up the middle. Bruce to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:49 PM
Rally! Alright...let's open it up fellas!

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 08:49 PM
two on…something brewin'

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:51 PM
two on…something brewin'

Another Cozart meltdown?

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:52 PM
Come on....positive vibes guys. We got this!

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:52 PM
Ludwick lines out to right, but that allows Bruce to make it to third. 1 out.

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 08:52 PM
Good 1st to 3rd by Bruce

Whoops I mean tag up

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:53 PM
Fly out to right. Jay to third.

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 08:53 PM
pena comes through!!

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:53 PM
There we go! Pena! Single to right.....WOW. Stretched it to a double. I bet they challenge.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:54 PM
Pena with an RBI double, narrowly avoiding being thrown out, and the Reds lead 1-0!

Tom Servo
04-22-2014, 08:54 PM
Pena!

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 08:54 PM
pena comes through!!

don't know how he was safe at 2nd but I'll take it

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 08:55 PM
Pena is slow

villain612
04-22-2014, 08:55 PM
That was close. Good hit though

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:55 PM
Looked like he was out after the initial slide. He hops off the bag shortly.

Hmmmm....other angle, I'm not so sure. Tough call regardless. Even WITH replay.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:56 PM
Not a single view shows him out. Terrible call if they over turn this.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:56 PM
Damn. This challenges just don't go our way.

The Operator
04-22-2014, 08:56 PM
He's out. :(

RedsfaninMT
04-22-2014, 08:56 PM
Not a single view shows him out. Terrible call if they over turn this.

This replay system sux!

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 08:57 PM
Not a single view shows him out. Terrible call if they over turn this.

agree -- methinks the replay umps are worse than the guys on the field

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 08:57 PM
Bad baserunning again

kbrake
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
That is a joke. I never saw an angle where you could see glove on Pena and his foot off bag. Not saying it didn't happen but you couldn't see it.

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Ball don't lie.

Cedric
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Replay is horrible. What a complete joke.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
I think they missed that one...but it was incredibly close. Hard to fault them either way.

Regardless....1-0 Reds with a man on 3rd.

Larkin Fan
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Replay fails and costs us.

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
big knock by zach…we needed that one

The Operator
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Cozart!! 2-0 good guys

757690
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Horrible ump review call costs Reds a run.

Red Raindog
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Ha -- Cozart found his way to 2b!

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Cozart gets a ball in the left field corner and brings Frazier home from third. 2-0 Reds with 2 outs. Cueto up to hit.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 08:59 PM
COZY! Double into the corner. 2-0 Reds!

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 08:59 PM
I think they missed that one...but it was incredibly close. Hard to fault them either way.

Regardless....1-0 Reds with a man on 3rd.

but it's supposed to definitively show the call on the field was wrong…i didn't see that based on the replays they showed us...

RedsfaninMT
04-22-2014, 08:59 PM
I think they missed that one...but it was incredibly close. Hard to fault them either way.

Regardless....1-0 Reds with a man on 3rd.

If it was so close, it should not have been reversed.

Slyder
04-22-2014, 08:59 PM
Whats the point of replay if they take the right call (safe) and blow it! Mercer never even tagged him and that shot from the infield was the best angle!~

757690
04-22-2014, 08:59 PM
I think they missed that one...but it was incredibly close. Hard to fault them either way.

Regardless....1-0 Reds with a man on 3rd.

Actually, very easy to fault them. To overturn a call, it must be clear and decisive. That was neither. Inexcusable.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:00 PM
but it's supposed to definitively show the call on the field was wrong…i didn't see that based on the replays they showed us...

Yeah, good point. If they have to have inconclusive evidence that the call on the field is wrong....but they DO have more camera angles than we just saw. So you never know.

The call was wrong based ONLY on the views WE SAW. There are more than 2 camera angles for them. They have what...8?

villain612
04-22-2014, 09:00 PM
I can't tell you how incredibly happy I am that Price let Cueto bat instead of pinching for him. Don't care if he grounded out.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:00 PM
Cueto hits into a 6-3 to end the inning. However, the Reds now lead 2-0. Pirates will bring up Martin, Davis, and Snider.

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 09:02 PM
His toe was off the bag when he reached down. And the tag was on him. I didn't see it till the last replay.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 09:02 PM
Cozart now has as many rbi's as Votto. 9

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:03 PM
Actually, very easy to fault them. To overturn a call, it must be clear and decisive. That was neither. Inexcusable.

You are right ONLY if they only have the 2 angles we saw. They don't. They've got like 8 camera angles IIRC.

Regardless....the Reds are up 2-0. So cheer up fellas!

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:03 PM
Cueto has a legit chance at pitching his second consecutive complete game and shutout here since he's only thrown 75 pitches thus far.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:03 PM
Half hour later FSO shows us the angle showing him out. Good work guys.

villain612
04-22-2014, 09:03 PM
Cozart now has as many rbi's as Votto. 9

Marty's head just exploded.

Larkin Fan
04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
That's the definitive look on the play? What a joke!

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
Half hour later FSO shows us the angle showing him out. Good work guys.

and it didn't even prove the reversal was valid…ridiculous

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
Martin flies out to dead center. 1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
There ya go. Decisive proof.

Mutaman
04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
I think they missed that one...but it was incredibly close. Hard to fault them either way.

Regardless....1-0 Reds with a man on 3rd.

If its "incredibly close", then the call on the field is supposed to stand and therefore its easy to fault them.
Replay is not meant to substitute one man's opinion for that of another. Its meant to overturn a bad call which is obviously wrong.

gilpdawg
04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
That's the definitive look on the play? What a joke!

Looked pretty cut and dry to me. Out.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
Nice bare handed throw by Frazier to put out Davis on a 5-3. Two outs.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
and it didn't even prove the reversal was valid…ridiculous

I thought that angle he was clearly out.

villain612
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
Nice play Frazier

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
and it didn't even prove the reversal was valid…ridiculous

How does it not? He's not touching the bag at all and the glove is on him. That's about as certain as it gets IMO.

Moot point though. 2-0 good guys and Cueto ROLLIN!

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
6-3 hit into by Snider and the Pirates go very quickly 1-2-3 to end the 7th. Reds lead 2-0 with 2 innings to play.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 09:06 PM
HAmilton looks pretty good in CF...a lot more coordinated than Choo

Maldez
04-22-2014, 09:06 PM
Deal, Johnny, deal.

marcshoe
04-22-2014, 09:07 PM
You know, this Cueto guy's not bad. It was easy to forget how good he is, what with him being out most of last year, but man, he's pretty close to being elite.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:07 PM
DOMINANT! I love it.

Let the replay call go guys.

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 09:07 PM
I thought that angle he was clearly out.

maybe i need to see it again, but i thought from the other angle, it showed their was air between the glove and his body…

757690
04-22-2014, 09:08 PM
How does it not? He's not touching the bag at all and the glove is on him. That's about as certain as it gets IMO.

Moot point though. 2-0 good guys and Cueto ROLLIN!

From the other angle, at that exact point, you see air between the glove and Pena. The glove is not on him, it just looks like it because of the camera angle.

Edit: Red In Chicago, sorry for parroting you, we seem to think alike, but clearly, you are the faster typer, lol.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:09 PM
Tony Watson in for Pitt.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:09 PM
Tony Watson in to pitch for the Pirates as we start the 8th. Hamilton, Votto, and Phillips due up.

Mutaman
04-22-2014, 09:09 PM
Cozart now has as many rbi's as Votto. 9

That says a lot about a lot of things. :)

Larkin Fan
04-22-2014, 09:09 PM
Looked pretty cut and dry to me. Out.

And yet there's another angle shown earlier that shows air between the glove and Pena. It's anything but cut and dry, IMO.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 09:10 PM
From the other angle, at that exact point, you see air between the glove and Pena. The glove is not on him, it just looks like it because of the camera angle.

trick photography;)

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:11 PM
Hamilton looking less and less over matched.

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 09:11 PM
Good AB by Billy

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:11 PM
From the other angle, at that exact point, you see air between the glove and Pena. The glove is not on him, it just looks like it because of the camera angle.

Edit: Red In Chicago, sorry for parroting you, we seem to think alike, but clearly, you are the faster typer, lol.

The view from the 1st base side, you can see his jersey move as the glove swipes his leg. Sucks, but he was out.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:11 PM
Hamilton singles to left!

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:11 PM
Nice swing. Single to left for Billy

Mutaman
04-22-2014, 09:12 PM
From the other angle, at that exact point, you see air between the glove and Pena. The glove is not on him, it just looks like it because of the camera angle.

Edit: Red In Chicago, sorry for parroting you, we seem to think alike, but clearly, you are the faster typer, lol.

Not watching any of this but I can imagine. They're going to watch 20 different angels in super slow motion thereby slowing the game down even more. What did you expect? Baseball in the age of Selig.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:12 PM
Votto singles to right, Hamilton goes to third.

villain612
04-22-2014, 09:13 PM
Vottomatic. Gotta get at least one here.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:13 PM
Rally #2! :O) Single for Votto. Billy 1st to third. MERCY he got there quick.

Larkin Fan
04-22-2014, 09:13 PM
Did Snider really think he was going to get BHam there? Lol

757690
04-22-2014, 09:13 PM
Even a DatDudeDP gets a run here.

50YrRedsFan
04-22-2014, 09:14 PM
Hamilton to 3rd easily on Votto's single.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:14 PM
LOL. Okay, THAT was funny from Welsh. :O)

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:15 PM
Does anyone else notice that in games that we either get Votto going or Phillips going but not both?!?!

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:15 PM
Of course the one time a BP DP would be helpful he chases a pitch in the dirt. Frustrating night from BP.

Larkin Fan
04-22-2014, 09:16 PM
Why is it that you can never get a DatDudeDP when ya need one?

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:16 PM
Ugly swing from Phillips.

gilpdawg
04-22-2014, 09:16 PM
LOL. Okay, THAT was funny from Welsh. :O)

I left the room for a minute. What'd he say?

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 09:16 PM
jay!!!

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:16 PM
Bruce bails out BP. 3-0.

BluegrassRedleg
04-22-2014, 09:16 PM
Big knock for Bruce! 3-0 Redlegs.

villain612
04-22-2014, 09:17 PM
Jayomattic

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 09:17 PM
Nice swing by Bruce off the lefty Watson.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:17 PM
Score alert: Everyone in the NL Central is controlling their games. STL up 2-0 on the Mets, Cubs up 1-0 on the horrid Dbacks, and Milwaukee looks to score on the Padres in the third.

Bruce with a big single to right field to score Hamilton and that'll be it for Watson.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:17 PM
I left the room for a minute. What'd he say?

"why would he even throw that? Unless your last name is Clemente or Parker...and you're playing really shallow...and you get the ball on one hop...and Hamilton trips going around second...and doesn't get up on the first try...why would you even try to throw?" :O)

BRUCE! Single to plate Billy.

~edit~ went back and got it verbatim. Funny. :O)

Red in Chicago
04-22-2014, 09:18 PM
does this commercial freak anyone else out? i mean, why is the guy talking to a statue of joe? it's just weird.

George Foster
04-22-2014, 09:19 PM
I know it's a moot point now because Bruce got a hit but why don't you steal Votto? If the throw goes threw Hamilton scores from 3rd...no problem. If they don't throw or throw back to the pitcher Votto is at 2nd and it avoids a DP possibility....don't get it.

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 09:20 PM
Actually I thought by Snider was about as good as it could have could be and would have caught most runners. Snider has a gun but you won't catch Billy.

Mutaman
04-22-2014, 09:21 PM
That's two nights in a row Bruce has gotten big hits off of lefthanders.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:21 PM
Tabata made that an adventure.

Tom Servo
04-22-2014, 09:22 PM
Damn, thought that would be a hit off the wall.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:22 PM
Frazier hits a bomb out to right, but it runs out of real estate just shy of the crowd and that's two outs.

Heisey has been placed in as LF for Ludwick and is now batting against Pimentel.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:22 PM
Hi-C up. Came in for defense last inning. I didn't notice.

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:22 PM
That's two nights in a row Bruce has gotten big hits off of lefthanders.

Makes me think he is more than capable of hitting behind Votto. And splitting the lefties is just as silly this year as it was last year.

Roy Tucker
04-22-2014, 09:23 PM
I hope we don't get into our bullpen too much tonight.

KYExtemper
04-22-2014, 09:24 PM
Heisey pops out to Walker to end the inning. Reds strand Votto at 3rd and Bruce at 1st. Glad to get another run, but we could've had at least one more.

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I hope we don't get into our bullpen too much tonight.

If Cueto can work the 8th as quickly as he did the last inning he might get to close this game himself.

villain612
04-22-2014, 09:24 PM
Makes me think he is more than capable of hitting behind Votto. And splitting the lefties is just as silly this year as it was last year.



This.

Put your two best hitters back to back. I don't care who is pitching.

_Sir_Charles_
04-22-2014, 09:25 PM
I hope we don't get into our bullpen too much tonight.

I'd be surprised if we go into it at all. Cueto at 82 pitches.

Gallen5862
04-22-2014, 09:25 PM
Let's go Reds. How many pitches has Cueto thrown? I asked just as you typed the answer lol

George Foster
04-22-2014, 09:26 PM
I hope we don't get into our bullpen too much tonight. It will be an adventure. Not much confidence out there right now...

kbrake
04-22-2014, 09:26 PM
Let's go Reds. How many pitches has cueto thrown?

Just threw 84.