4/26/2014-Reds-Vs-Braves-Frazier Out Too

[PepperJack]

Reds:
Hamilton
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Ludwick
Pena
Soto
Cozart
Leake


ctrent ‏@ctrent 45m
#Reds lineup: Hamilton 8, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Ludwick 7, Pena 2, Soto 5 (first career start), Cozart 6, Leake RHP

Braves:
Heyward
B.J. Upton
Freeman
J. Upton
Gattis
Uggla
Johnson
Simmons
Hale


David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 37m
#Braves lineup: Heyward 9, BUpton 8, Freeman 3, JUpton 7, Gattis 2, Uggla 4, Johnson 5, Simmons 6, Hale P



ctrent ‏@ctrent 6m
Chapman throwing live BP to Soto, Santiago and Tucker Barnhart #Reds pic.twitter.com/NSm4Vdp0fH

7043

[_Sir_Charles_]

Francisco Liriano just left Pirates/Cardinals game with an injury. No word what it is yet.

[Red Raindog]

Francisco Liriano just left Pirates/Cardinals game with an injury. No word what it is yet.

Flu-like symptoms

[KYExtemper]

Pena and Soto are going to need to step up tonight. It'll be interesting to see how the bottom of the lineup functions in this game.

[Red Raindog]

Pena and Soto are going to need to step up tonight. It'll be interesting to see how the bottom of the lineup functions in this game.

Pena has surprised me -- hope it continues in a positive way because you are correct - we need him to help

[Red Raindog]

Votto swung so hard I thought he hurt himself -- then grounds to 1st

[KYExtemper]

Hale blew Votto away with that fastball. Too bad Votto didn't make contact.

[Larkin Fan]

Man I've never seen Votto take a swing like that and nearly fall over. lol

[Red Raindog]

BP setting it up for Bruce with a base hit to CF

or for Luddy!

[KYExtemper]

Nice smash by Ludwick. Too bad it just didn't have another foot or two of elevation to put us up 3 instead of 1.

[Red Raindog]

OK Mike -- you got your run ---

:evil:

[KYExtemper]

Leake has some good stuff early on. Too bad he screwed up that fielding play, though. Scorer doesn't give him a second error.

[Red Raindog]

Called that a hit? wow - I think that scorer is in the minority after Leake muffed that grounder

[gilpdawg]

How did he hit that up by his eyes?

[Red Raindog]

Now that was a bad pitch and we are not going to get that ball back

- - - Updated - - -


How did he hit that up by his eyes?

He seemed to like it

[757690]

Left handed first basemen = Leake's Kryptonite

[50YrRedsFan]

I'd like to see the Reds muscle up and hit a few bombs.....They have been pretty scarce so far this year.

[757690]

Called that a hit? wow - I think that scorer is in the minority after Leake muffed that grounder

Example #1,327,984 of why earned run stats aren't very meaningful. Official scorers are a joke.

[PepperJack]

Did Bruce seem to tweak his knee on Ludwick's double?

When I watched the replay again, he was holding his left knee while standing on the third base bag.

[50YrRedsFan]

BP thinks this is a social event...kidding with Upton

[KYExtemper]

I think we just saw B.J. Upton's 1,000th hit that inning.

[gilpdawg]

BP thinks this is a social event...kidding with Upton

Baseball......serious business.

[50YrRedsFan]

2-1 Braves after 1. Pretty quiet in here tonight.

[Red Raindog]

I think we just saw B.J. Upton's 1,000th hit that inning.

well it was called that

- - - Updated - - -


Did Bruce seem to tweak his knee on Ludwick's double?

When I watched the replay again, he was holding his left knee while standing on the third base bag.

shut your mouth ;)

[KYExtemper]

Example #1,327,984 of why earned run stats aren't very meaningful. Official scorers are a joke.

Another problem with official scorers is that they tend to minimize errors for their guys while giving them hits on errors other times to inflate statistics. I was a fan of John Stockton, but he got some very generous assist tallies while playing at home. So, it's not just a baseball thing. Good ol' human element!

[Red Raindog]

I see the Cozart lunge is still getting the same pop out to right or center

[KYExtemper]

well it was called that


I don't think it was mentioned on the radio (which is where I'm getting the game).

[50YrRedsFan]

Cozout pops up (yet again).

[Redsfansince72]

i wish Cozart would buy this product at www.speedhitter.com i swear it would show him how awful his swing is!!!!

[faffy42]

Dear reds batting coach,
Please help zach cozart at the plate. Thank you
Reds fan

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds down in order...Braves with a hit but nothing else in the 2nd....2-1 ATL after 2

[Kc61]

Leake is losing me with all these gopher balls. Already has allowed one tonight, just too many allowed.

[tomnuetten]

8 pitch inning...

fly ball by billy, hard hit groundball to first by votto and pop-up in foul teritory by phillips

at some point you have to adjust the lineup and remove phillips from the #3 position!

[Red Raindog]

8 pitch inning...

fly ball by billy, hard hit groundball to first by votto and pop-up in foul teritory by phillips

at some point you have to adjust the lineup and remove phillips from the #3 position!

he did get the first hit and score the run -- but your point is taken and you get no real argument from me

oh nice catch by Luddy

=== so far it is Luddy's show for the Reds

[KYExtemper]

Ludwick steals a run!

[Tadasimha]

Whew!

At least it kept them from going back to back

[tomnuetten]

ludwick with a great game so far... you don´t expect much from him defensively but he´s not bad

ouch, they hit leake hard...

[Wonderful Monds]

Leake is not fooling anyone tonight.

[KYExtemper]

*Facepalm*

[Red Raindog]

Ummm --- Leake is throwing bombs tonight

and still throwing them

[gilpdawg]

Hanging curve......crushed.

[50YrRedsFan]

8 pitch inning...

fly ball by billy, hard hit groundball to first by votto and pop-up in foul teritory by phillips

at some point you have to adjust the lineup and remove phillips from the #3 position!

Need to switch Phillips and Ludwick in the batting order. And find someone else for Cozout's spot.

[757690]

Leake decides to change things up and give up a homer to someone other than a lefthanded first baseman.

[Larkin Fan]

Leake's got nothing tonight. :(

[50YrRedsFan]

Leake throwing batting practice.....

[Big Klu]

Is anyone else being blacked out? The Blue Jackets are on Fox Sports Ohio, and the Crew are on the alternate channel.

[Wonderful Monds]

lo freaking l

Pull him. Right now.

[KYExtemper]

We are playing a game and not HR derby, right?

[BluegrassRedleg]

/CLICK

[Tadasimha]

Dang

[Larkin Fan]

Nightmares are made of this.

[gilpdawg]

Meatballs. And cue the racist chant.

[Wonderful Monds]

Is anyone else being blacked out? The Blue Jackets are on Fox Sports Ohio, and the Crew are on the alternate channel.

Do you get them on MLBN

[757690]

Mike Leake playing with Homer Bailey, the worst game of "anything you can do, I can do better."

[Red Raindog]

who is the long man tonight?

[Wonderful Monds]

Gattis missed home plate?

[Kc61]

Leake now gaining on Bailey for the Home Run Derby award. Bailey has allowed 7, Leake 6.

[50YrRedsFan]

I guess I can walk the dogs now....Mike (gopher ball) Leake getting bombed (3).

[Red Raindog]

Is anyone else being blacked out? The Blue Jackets are on Fox Sports Ohio, and the Crew are on the alternate channel.

I'm on Fox Cincy on Dish

[Big Klu]

Do you get them on MLBN

No, they are showing the White Sox.

[Red Raindog]

Gattis missed home plate?

nope

[KYExtemper]

Well, at least Ludwick saved us from the back-to-back-to-back jack! Can't afford to hang balls on the Braves since their team is built around crushing the long ball. Meanwhile, we can't buy a HR lately.

[Tony Cloninger]

Need to switch Phillips and Ludwick in the batting order. And find someone else for Cozout's spot.

And risk the wrath of Phillips? To me he might as well bat leadoff....as you are not losing too much OBP% ....but still better hitter at this time than Hamilton, just no power.

[tomnuetten]

watching leake today...

http://media.giphy.com/media/4seT1wVx2CFX2/giphy.gif

[powersackers]

Pound for pound we got nothin' on these guys. Hey Walt pay attention. Braves know how to build a lineup and farm system.

[gilpdawg]

Ryan Braun accidentally busted Segura in the head with a bat doing practice swings at the end of the dugout. Looked gnarly. Probably concussed.

[KYExtemper]

If there's a silver lining, we have a lot of innings left. We've just got to try to chip away. 2 runs here and a run there and we can get back in it.

[Wonderful Monds]

Ryan Braun accidentally busted Segura in the head with a bat doing practice swings at the end of the dugout. Looked gnarly. Probably concussed.

Classic Braun.

[Magdal]

ludwick with a great game so far... you don´t expect much from him defensively but he´s not bad

ouch, they hit leake hard...You just noticed that Tom? He's a serious ball player that gives 100% every day.

[jojo]

Leake now gaining on Bailey for the Home Run Derby award. Bailey has allowed 7, Leake 6.

Just be thankful that Leake took a step forward last season by learning to suppress his HR/FB%.... Right!?!!?

[KYExtemper]

I remember liking what I saw of Barnhart early in the year. We probably won't see him until the Brewers series, though, because I imagine Pena is catching for Cueto tomorrow (which is fine since Cueto is on fire lately).

[Tony Cloninger]

Hale....another in a long line of Braves pitchers who pitch great for them but put them on another team and they are Jimmy Haynes than average.

[Kc61]

Just be thankful that Leake took a step forward last season by learning to suppress his HR/FB%.... Right!?!!?

Leake is a ground ball pitcher who consistently allows more than 20 homers per season. It's not getting better. It's a problem for him.

Meanwhile the Reds have been out homered 29-20 so far this year.

[KYExtemper]

Hale....another in a long line of Braves pitchers who pitch great for them but put them on another team and they are Jimmy Haynes than average.

Yep. It's also easier to pitch when you can get sizable run support and aren't so uptight.

[tomnuetten]

Pound for pound we got nothin' on these guys. Hey Walt pay attention. Braves know how to build a lineup and farm system.

look at the runs the reds scored the past weeks... the offence isn´t that bad! they started slow, but they did improve... phillips, cozart and hamilton (has been good the past week) have to produce more... if they do we have a pretty good offence

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pound for pound we got nothin' on these guys. Hey Walt pay attention. Braves know how to build a lineup and farm system.

Runs scored. Atl 84 Cin 94 (prior to today)

[50YrRedsFan]

Leake is a ground ball pitcher who consistently allows more than 20 homers per season. It's not getting better. It's a problem for him.

Meanwhile the Reds have been out homered 29-20 so far this year.

Reds are 3rd in mlb for HR allowed with 29...Braves have allowed only 9- best in mlb

[faffy42]

We cannot get out of atlanta quick enough. Man this is a grown up hitting club. Crushing everything...albeit leake is helping them crush too. Leakes a bad match up against a power hitting line up. Hope we can salvage 1 win against these guys.

[Tony Cloninger]

Yep. It's also easier to pitch when you can get sizable run support and aren't so uptight.

They actually do not hit that great themselves.....but the power can overcome leads. They can go on some real bad stretches where they are lucky to score 3 runs.

I am basing this more on last few years though...so this year might be different.

[Redsfansince72]

im getting the Reds on Foxsports ohio near Cincy. The BlueJacekts/Penguins game is blacked out for us.. weird

[KYExtemper]

We cannot get out of atlanta quick enough. Man this is a grown up hitting club. Crushing everything...albeit leake is helping them crush too. Leakes a bad match up against a power hitting line up. Hope we can salvage 1 win against these guys.

Good thing is we have Cueto on the mound tomorrow. I was hoping we could blast Hale tonight, but it's not looking good. Still too early to throw in the towel, though.

[Larkin Fan]

Ryan Braun accidentally busted Segura in the head with a bat doing practice swings at the end of the dugout. Looked gnarly. Probably concussed.

Braun is a horrible teammate.

[757690]

Just be thankful that Leake took a step forward last season by learning to suppress his HR/FB%.... Right!?!!?

I guess Homer Bailey forgot how to suppress his HR/FB rate too this season.

[Kc61]

I don't know how the Pirates will do this year, so it's hard to comment on those games. Reds certainly handled them well.

But the Reds look like a bad team when playing the Cards and Braves so far. This is like last year, Reds couldn't beat the high level clubs.

It's not a good trend, but maybe it will turn around as the year goes on.

[50YrRedsFan]

Yep. It's also easier to pitch when you can get sizable run support and aren't so uptight.

I have been saying this for years...Reds pitchers, for the most part, are walking on eggs.....seems like 1 mistake costs them a game.

[757690]

Braun is horrible

FIFY

[gilpdawg]

Braun is a horrible teammate.

Totally accidental. He may be a horrible teammate, but not because of that.

[malcontent]

If Price has Leake sacrifice bunt, I'm going to be upset.

Especially after last night when he killed the rally bunting Pena.

[757690]

I don't know how the Pirates will do this year, so it's hard to comment on those games. Reds certainly handled them well.

But the Reds look like a bad team when playing the Cards and Braves so far. This is like last year, Reds couldn't beat the high level clubs.

It's not a good trend, but maybe it will turn around as the year goes on.

Completely disagree. Reds against the Cards and Braves look like a good team that caught some bad breaks. They easily could have a winning record against them so far this year.

[tomnuetten]

I´ll never get how much they use sport to instrumentalize patriotism...

[KYExtemper]

Good thing we have the Cubs next week in Cincy!

[dubc47834]

Who was the guy last nite that said Leake was better than Bailey because of last nights game?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Love that stuff. :clap: :clap: :clap: :usa:

[Chip R]

I´ll never get how much they use sport to instrumentalize patriotism...

The NFL's use of it dwarfs MLB's.

[jojo]

I guess Homer Bailey forgot how to suppress his HR/FB rate too this season.

Are you still arguing Leake acquired this new skill?

[Red Raindog]

Cozart lunge -- only gets to 1st base pop out this time

[Redsfansince72]

i wouldnt mind seeing our backup SS get some AB's.. Cozart keeps dropping his back shoulder and nothing changes

[KYExtemper]

Well, I said at the beginning of the game that production from the bottom four of the lineup would be important. That part of the lineup is 0-8 thus far.

[757690]

That Cozart AB is a perfect example of why pitch recognition stats are silly. That picture was a strike but he had no business swinging at it.

[50YrRedsFan]

Cozout with ANOTHER pop out to the right side....I want to SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!

[Larkin Fan]

What the Hale?

[Kc61]

Completely disagree. Reds against the Cards and Braves look like a good team that caught some bad breaks. They easily could have a winning record against them so far this year.

Yeah, Bailey is great but he's 6.45 due to bad luck. The Reds are 2-5 and trailing tonight against the Cards and Braves due to bad luck. It's all bad luck.

As Bill Parcells said, you are what you are. The Reds are a sub-.500 team because they haven't played well on a consistent basis. I'm watching this game tonight and I don't see bad luck, I see bad play. Actually, very bad play.

[757690]

Are you still arguing Leake acquired this new skill?

I'm just not going to use one inning to prove my point.

[dubc47834]

Love that stuff. :clap: :clap: :clap: :usa:

Being a Soldier I always find it kinda akward when people do things like that when I'm in uniform. I always say thank you, but I'm not looking for the recognition, although appreciated!

[tomnuetten]

The NFL's use of it dwarfs MLB's.

I know and it is not by business... but I´m very sensibel with nationalism and patriotism (as a german...) => I don´t like to see stuff like that

[LexRedsFan]

I'm at turner.

Waffle House is pretty neat. Besides that, this has been a giant turd of a game. But it's early.

[_Sir_Charles_]

What the Hale?

We should've expected this. Rookie pitcher first time we're seeing him. We're pretty notorious for making these guys look like Bob Gibson.

[malcontent]

i wouldnt mind seeing our backup SS get some AB's.. Cozart keeps dropping his back shoulder and nothing changes
No way he changes that flaw, IMO. But maybe Jocketty likes his game like he liked Janish's game.

[50YrRedsFan]

Yeah, Bailey is great but he's 6.45 due to bad luck. The Reds are 2-5 and trailing tonight against the Cards and Braves due to bad luck. It's all bad luck.

As Bill Parcells said, you are what you are. The Reds are a sub-.500 team because they haven't played well on a consistent basis. I'm watching this game tonight and I don't see bad luck, I see bad play. Actually, very bad play.

They definitely look like they're going through the motions...no life, no adjustments made in game, etc, etc

[757690]

Yeah, Bailey is great but he's 6.45 due to bad luck. The Reds are 2-5 and trailing tonight against the Cards and Braves due to bad luck. It's all bad luck.

As Bill Parcells said, you are what you are. The Reds are a sub-.500 team because they haven't played well on a consistent basis. I'm watching this game tonight and I don't see bad luck, I see bad play. Actually, very bad play.

Baseball ain't football. The breaks even out over the season. Not so much in football. No way do I see a below .500 team in the Reds so far this year.

[LexRedsFan]

We should've expected this. Rookie pitcher first time we're seeing him. We're pretty notorious for making these guys look like Bob Gibson.

Haha. Sadly, I had the exact same thought.

[dubc47834]

Great to see Chapman looking soo happy to be back doing baseball activities!!!

[Red Raindog]

Now that was a good play by Votto

[Kc61]

Baseball ain't football. The breaks even out over the season. Not so much in football. No way do I see a below .500 team in the Reds so far this year.

You're right. The Reds definitely have a chance to be over .500.

If that's your goal.

It isn't mine.

[Larkin Fan]

Nice play by Votto!

[Larkin Fan]

We should've expected this. Rookie pitcher first time we're seeing him. We're pretty notorious for making these guys look like Bob Gibson.

It's the Cincinnati way. ;)

[757690]

You're right. The Reds definitely have a chance to be over .500.

If that's your goal.

It isn't mine.

Let me rephrase then. Reds look like a contending team.

Btw, what so you think of the Cards and Red Sox so far?

[Kc61]

Ok, Reds, you've had five turns against Cy Hale.

Time to get to him and make this a ball game.

[Red Raindog]

No way he changes that flaw, IMO. But maybe Jocketty likes his game like he liked Janish's game.

At this point I have to assume he is either not coachable or just simply not able to recognize a good swing

[50YrRedsFan]

You're right. The Reds definitely have a chance to be over .500.

If that's your goal.

It isn't mine.

Mine, either. 90 wins last year, but felt pretty bad at the end of the season

[Kc61]

Let me rephrase then. Reds look like a contending team.

Btw, what so you think of the Cards and Red Sox so far?

I don't follow the Cards and Red Sox. Actually, if I were a fan, I wouldn't be that concerned. I'd be delighted by their great successes as recent World Series teams.

As for the Reds, they may be a contending team by season's end. But to say they look like a contending team so far? I'm sorry, but I do not see it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Let me rephrase then. Reds look like a contending team.

Btw, what so you think of the Cards and Red Sox so far?

Clearly, the Cards are just in a funk. They've got a potent offense that is just having a hard time with it's power. I mean they are BY FAR the class of this division and will win it walking away.

The Reds however are just what they seem to be, a sub .500 team. They've got 2 decent hitters and then it's just black hole after black hole.

And let me add one last thing...got sarcasm?

[jojo]

I'm just not going to use one inning to prove my point.

Good thing, because no one else is either..... But you have used a single season to support such an argument while others have looked at a carreer.

[powersackers]

Lots of fun stuff to do in Atlanta tonight and the Reds are in a hurry to get there.

[dubc47834]

Who was the guy last nite that said Leake was better than Bailey because of last nights game?

Mutaman not making an appearance after saying that Leake was better than Homer after last night...lol

[Tom Servo]

Strong at-bat by BP.

[Larkin Fan]

Votto looked like he was about to drop an F-Bomb after that K.

[jojo]

This is still a game.

[malcontent]

Cozart wears out the RF, 1B, and 2B.

Phillips just wears out the RF.

[tomnuetten]

if you can´t get hits against a starting pitcher, why do you swing at everything?

3 innings in a row with 10 or less pitches thrown?! sry. but that´s stupid.. take some pitches, foul some pitches off, make them work!

[757690]

Mutaman not making an appearance after saying that Leake was better than Homer after last night...lol

So far this season, Leake, including tonight, has an ERA over two runs lower than Bailey's.

[Kc61]

This is still a game.

It should be a game, but the Reds haven't had a hit since the first inning. Makes it a bit harder to win.

Don't expect the Braves to walk the bases loaded and then walk in four runs.

[Kc61]

Leake angry the Reds didn't turn the DP.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Strong at-bat by BP.

I'm sorry that it looks like I'm picking on you Tom, but I'm just using your post to make a point.

What should Brandon have done during that AB? Should he have made the pitcher work and let that meatball sail past? Too often, we jump on players who swing at the first pitch. If they see a 90 mph fastball right in the center of the strike zone....IMO they should swing...HARD. Brandon got under it some but made good contact. I think we forget sometimes that hitting a round ball with a round bat SQUARELY is kinda tough.

[tomnuetten]

Cozart wears out the RF, 1B, and 2B.

Phillips just wears out the RF.

phillips is below avg. offensivly so far (as a 2nd baseman) but he is aswell below avg. defensively... I hope that it´s just a bad start

[50YrRedsFan]

Mutaman not making an appearance after saying that Leake was better than Homer after last night...lol

So they both have given up runs.......regardless, the offense has to learn to score runs when the pitchers give up some. Hoping the pitchers will hold the opposition to 1 or 2 runs every game is unreal. This is a below average offense.

[jojo]

So far this season, Leake, including tonight, has an ERA over two runs lower than Bailey's.

Didn't you proclaim earlier in the thread that earned run based stats were terribly flawed? Thought you had given them up.

[Larkin Fan]

No excuse for not turning that DP.

[Red Raindog]

and now a missed DP -- at least they got one

:eek:

[jojo]

phillips is below avg. offensivly so far (as a 2nd baseman) but he is aswell below avg. defensively... I hope that it´s just a bad start

Phillips has been good defensively so far IMHO.

[malcontent]

No excuse for not turning that DP.
That was totally on Phillips.

Cozart could have handled it himself.

[757690]

Didn't you proclaim earlier in the thread that earned run based stats were terribly flawed? Thought you had given them up.

Convert their ERA's to simply runs allowed per nine innings, and the point is the same.

[Red Raindog]

Leake angry the Reds didn't turn the DP.

He should be --- but even more angry at the lousy pitches the Reds' pitcher threw tonight

[dubc47834]

So far this season, Leake, including tonight, has an ERA over two runs lower than Bailey's.

But Leake is not a better pitcher than Homer Bailey. He might be having a better start to this season, but overall Homer is the better pitcher!

[_Sir_Charles_]

That was totally on Phillips.

Cozart could have handled it himself.

That was a simple thing what we normally see handled very well with those two....communication. There wasn't any on that one. Rare, but it does happen.

[50YrRedsFan]

The Reds with 2 hits thru 6 innings.....both hits in the 1st inning.......none since.

[Tom Servo]

It's a pitcher's league and we're just living in it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm just as frustrated as you guys are....but I think some credit should be going to Hale. He's pitching one heck of a game IMO. Yes we've helped him out some, but he's still making some real quality pitches.

[Tony Cloninger]

At this point I have to assume he is either not coachable or just simply not able to recognize a good swing

Just like Stubbs....and in some ways Heisey sometimes.

[Kc61]

Brewers are leading tonight. Reds flirting with 7 games out.

This guy Hale is really mowing them down, would have never guessed it. Maybe one time through the lineup, but now he's completed 7 innings.

[50YrRedsFan]

This game could be from 2013.......some offense in the 1st inning, then dead the remainder of the game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brewers are leading tonight. Reds flirting with 7 games out.

This guy Hale is really mowing them down, would have never guessed it. Maybe one time through the lineup, but now he's completed 7 innings.

Dude is pitching for his life. Quite possibly his last MLB start. I'll give him this, he's giving it everything he's got. Love his breaking stuff.

[Tony Cloninger]

I'm sorry that it looks like I'm picking on you Tom, but I'm just using your post to make a point.

What should Brandon have done during that AB? Should he have made the pitcher work and let that meatball sail past? Too often, we jump on players who swing at the first pitch. If they see a 90 mph fastball right in the center of the strike zone....IMO they should swing...HARD. Brandon got under it some but made good contact. I think we forget sometimes that hitting a round ball with a round bat SQUARELY is kinda tough.


Adjust to the fact that he is going more away from you then inside and GO the other way.

This is a hitting team that is high IQ and Adjustment intolerant....with the exception of Votto really. Even Bruce cannot understand the value of going the other way more...with his power....when they pitch him out there ...the many times they do.

[Tom Servo]

It's 2014, and The Tomahawk Chop is still incredibly stupid.

[Kc61]

Adjust to the fact that he is going more away from you then inside and GO the other way.

This is a hitting team that is high IQ and Adjustment intolerant....with the exception of Votto really. Even Bruce cannot understand the value of going the other way more...with his power....when they pitch him out there ...the many times they do.

Basically, while they will hit occasionally, they are not a terrible offensive team -- but the Reds need good starting pitching to win. Hard to think of many games this year when they "outscored" the opposition.

Reds have focused on pitching and defense. That only works if you get excellent pitching and defense.

Can't have outings like last night and tonight.

[757690]

It's 2014, and The Tomahawk Chop is still incredibly stupid.

It's as if Braves fans said, "You know, the Wave isn't annoying enough, let's come up with something even worse."

[Tony Cloninger]

Being a Soldier I always find it kinda akward when people do things like that when I'm in uniform. I always say thank you, but I'm not looking for the recognition, although appreciated!

I do appreciate it very much. Cannot even fathom how hard it is to deal with any type of military action.

As a soldier though......does it really feel that there is a war actually going on that makes every 7th inning stretch a need to play God Bless America?

I understood during WW II, Korean War and especially Vietnam ....when patriotism was at an all time low.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Adjust to the fact that he is going more away from you then inside and GO the other way.

This is a hitting team that is high IQ and Adjustment intolerant....with the exception of Votto really. Even Bruce cannot understand the value of going the other way more...with his power....when they pitch him out there ...the many times they do.

But I'm talking about the 1st pitch. Tough to adjust on a first pitch.

But regardless, I agree mostly with what you're saying. But tonight...Votto 0 for 3. Sometimes the pitcher simply throws a great game and you tip your hat.

[Kc61]

Maybe the bottom of the order can get things going here, setting up Votto, Phillips and Bruce for a big inning.

Time to hit the ball, Reds, cmon.

[_Sir_Charles_]

It's 2014, and The Tomahawk Chop is still incredibly stupid.

Better than the "woo".

[Big Klu]

im getting the Reds on Foxsports ohio near Cincy. The BlueJacekts/Penguins game is blacked out for us.. weird

Now I've lost the radio feed, too.

[KYExtemper]

I've noticed a pattern to our games where we get people in scoring position in the 1st inning, usually come up short, and really struggle to do anything until after the 5th inning.

[malcontent]

It's as if Braves fans said, "You know, the Wave isn't annoying enough, let's come up with something even worse."
I'd take the Chop to the Woo any day.

[Tony Cloninger]

But I'm talking about the 1st pitch. Tough to adjust on a first pitch.

But regardless, I agree mostly with what you're saying. But tonight...Votto 0 for 3. Sometimes the pitcher simply throws a great game and you tip your hat.


Yes I do not want to short change the guy..... but really I am watching Keith Brown circa 1988 out there.

Pete Rose on Brown "I do not understand how he is getting people out."

[Kc61]

Soto gets ahead then weakly grounds to short.

Braves announcers saying Hale may go back to the minors after this. Braves getting Minor back.

Well, if Hale finishes his career at AAA he'll always have tonight.

[malcontent]

89-mph cheese. Overwhelming.

[Kc61]

Cozart weakly flies to center field.

He needs two or three weeks at AAA.

Pitcher's spot coming up with two outs. Looks like Bernadina up there.

[Tom Servo]

We'll see if Cozart can get over .150 by the end of April.

[757690]

One thing to remember. Reds are without Rooco and Frazier tonight. Two of their best power bats so far this year.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yes I do not want to short change the guy..... but really I am watching Keith Brown circa 1988 out there.

Pete Rose on Brown "I do not understand how he is getting people out."

I agree on Brown. But this kid. His breaking ball drops off the table and it's a very late break. Same arm slot, very little difference between the arm actions. This may be an anomaly for him, but tonight, he's dealin.

[dubc47834]

I do appreciate it very much. Cannot even fathom how hard it is to deal with any type of military action.

As a soldier though......does it really feel that there is a war actually going on that makes every 7th inning stretch a need to play God Bless America?

I understood during WW II, Korean War and especially Vietnam ....when patriotism was at an all time low.

I don't think they play God Bless American because of the wars. I believe they started playing it after 9/11, not quit sure tho. But if that brings people together to be more patriotic then I'm all for it, even if it's fake patriotism. For us the wars are almost over but hopefully the song is still played!

[Kc61]

Three out, Reds go out quietly.

Horrendous offensive performance through 8 innings against a pitcher likely on his way back to AAA.

No concept how to get to this pitcher.

[Red Raindog]

Cozart weakly flies to center field.

He needs two or three years at AAA.

Pitcher's spot coming up with two outs. Looks like Bernadina up there.

fixed it for you :evil:

[tomnuetten]

I don't think they play God Bless American because of the wars. I believe they started playing it after 9/11, not quit sure tho. But if that brings people together to be more patriotic then I'm all for it, even if it's fake patriotism. For us the wars are almost over but hopefully the song is still played!

ok I´m from a different country, with a different history but I won´t get how being more patriotic is something positive!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Parra in btw

[Tony Cloninger]

I don't think they play God Bless American because of the wars. I believe they started playing it after 9/11, not quit sure tho. But if that brings people together to be more patriotic then I'm all for it, even if it's fake patriotism. For us the wars are almost over but hopefully the song is still played!

OK. I am with you on the fake patriotism and that is the thing that gets me.... but I do love the song..... and not being born in this country and with parents who were born and were in Fascists Governments for the first 12-15 years of their lives.... I value the song.

[757690]

Soto has been better than expected at third tonight.

[malcontent]

Soto hasn't looked like the answer to any question tonight.

At the plate.

[KYExtemper]

Jay Bruce has been our biggest success story tonight with 2 walks in three appearances.

- - - Updated - - -


Soto hasn't looked like the answer to any question tonight.

I was actually surprised that we didn't put Santiago at third.

[Tony Cloninger]

Soto has been better than expected at third tonight.

Which game are you watching?

- - - Updated - - -


Soto hasn't looked like the answer to any question tonight.

At the plate.

Which game are you watching?

[KYExtemper]

I hope the Braves send Kimbrel out and we light him up. Bruce grand slam for the win!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jay Bruce has been our biggest success story tonight with 2 walks in three appearances.

Ludwick. Big hit and big leather.

[tomnuetten]

Jay Bruce has been our biggest success story tonight with 2 walks in three appearances.


Ludwick was pretty good aswell.. one good defensive play and a big swing inches away from a 3run homer (sadly only a rbi double)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Parra's had a tough week or two.

[KYExtemper]

Ludwick was pretty good aswell.. one good defensive play and a big swing inches away from a 3run homer (sadly only a rbi double)

All of this is true. I was just referencing that Bruce has at least been on base twice. I wish that Ludwick shot was a HR since it might've changed the entire game. If nothing else, we'd only be down 1 run!

[Kc61]

Funny how Price has started to remove relievers mid-inning so often. He did it last night, now he's removed Parra with two outs. Lefty/righty switches.

Exactly what Price said he wouldn't do.

[KYExtemper]

So on another note, is this Donald Sterling stuff bringing back Marge Schott memories for anyone?

[757690]

Which game are you watching?

Just meant in the field. He does t look like a first baseman playing third.

[Kc61]

Christiani in the game, two outs, bottom eight. Nick getting some work this series.

Gets his man, ninth inning.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Funny how Price has started to remove relievers mid-inning so often. He did it last night, now he's removed Parra with two outs. Lefty/righty switches.

Exactly what Price said he wouldn't do.

I have a feeling he's wanting to try to get guys out on a good note. So many of the pen arms are struggling. Confidence is a big thing and tough to recapture once it's lost.

[757690]

Hoping for a lead off, game tying, three run home run from Hamilton.

[KYExtemper]

Time for Billy to get on base to start this inning and manufacture some craziness. Since we can't hit Hale, I want them to put Kimbrel in.

[dubc47834]

ok I´m from a different country, with a different history but I won´t get how being more patriotic is something positive!

I think it brings people together!

[Kc61]

I have a feeling he's wanting to try to get guys out on a good note. So many of the pen arms are struggling. Confidence is a big thing and tough to recapture once it's lost.

Well, he just removed Parra after a two out walk. Good note?

I think Price is forcing the issue in these games, trying very hard to avoid falling further behind. He's about to go seven games out.

Start to get 9, 10 games out and it's serious, even early in the season.

He took Parra out because he walked a guy and didn't want him facing the righty who might hit a bomb against him.

[dubc47834]

OK. I am with you on the fake patriotism and that is the thing that gets me.... but I do love the song..... and not being born in this country and with parents who were born and were in Fascists Governments for the first 12-15 years of their lives.... I value the song.

i hear ya man, I know it's not everyones cup of tea, but I like it. But, I don't think any less of people who don't like it either!

[Kc61]

Hamilton out on a squib to the pitcher. One down in the ninth.

[tomnuetten]

I think it brings people together!

in a certain region while it excludes people from other regions of the world. I´m not a fan of patriotism because it often leads to nationalism... mix in some religion and you have a bad mixture which causes lots of damage around the world...

[tomnuetten]

lets get some runs

[Tony Cloninger]

Just meant in the field. He does t look like a first baseman playing third.

I was just responding to both of you who posted back to back..... a view of Soto which was the complete opposite. It was funny....and we all need a laugh with this game.

[Kc61]

Votto with a nice at bat, full count, against Kimbrel.

Fouling off pitches.

Fifteenth pitch of the inning for Kimbrel coming up.

Walk on a very close pitch.

[KYExtemper]

Alright! Votto gets on.

[Tom Servo]

Votto walks, not dead yet.

[Tony Cloninger]

Votto with a nice at bat, full count, against Kimbrel.

Fouling off pitches.

Fifteenth pitch of the inning for Kimbrel coming up.

Walk on a very close pitch.

Are Marty and Thom angry about this? ;)

[dubc47834]

in a certain region while it excludes people from other regions of the world. I´m not a fan of patriotism because it often leads to nationalism... mix in some religion and you have a bad mixture which causes lots of damage around the world...

I think you can love your country and still respect other people. I do see tho how there are people who can take it waaaay too far!

[kaldaniels]

BP trying to tie it up.

Someone please tell him...

[Kc61]

BP and Bruce need to keep this game alive.

Strike one swinging on BP. BP is 1 for 1 lifetime against Kimbrel.

Now two strikes.

[PepperJack]

Funny how Price has started to remove relievers mid-inning so often. He did it last night, now he's removed Parra with two outs. Lefty/righty switches.

Exactly what Price said he wouldn't do.

I think he tried showing faith in his pitchers, and they let him down.

I imagine he will still stick to that with certain pitchers.

[Tom Servo]

DatDudeK

[Kc61]

Brandon Ks swinging.

Reds still no hits since the first inning.

[KYExtemper]

Well the bottom of our lineup sucked tonight. 0-12.

[Tom Servo]

We're still bad.


Salvage it tomorrow.

[Red Raindog]

well this game sucked

[Kc61]

Watching this game tonight, one would have to ask if the Reds have a hitting coach. Just a terrible offensive performance.

Starting pitcher did not miss bats. Reds consistently tried to pull and hit the ball into the ground.

Zero opposite field hitting. Very poor.

Please don't tell me about David Hale, he wasn't this good. Zero hits after first inning.

[malcontent]

Phillips swinging like he's not healthy. This team is in deep trouble, IMO.

But I imagine Walt sees things differently.

[Big Klu]

This game is over already? Could I get a final score?

TV broadcast was blacked out tonight. Fox Sports Ohio was showing the Blue Jackets, and the alternate channel had Time Warner's broadcast of the Crew. Then in the fifth inning, the local radio affiliate had technical difficulties and lost the feed, so I got Jeremy Schaap on ESPN Radio for the rest of the night.

[Tony Cloninger]

Watching this game tonight, one would have to ask if the Reds have a hitting coach. Just a terrible offensive performance.

Starting pitcher did not miss bats. Reds consistently tried to pull and hit the ball into the ground.

Zero opposite field hitting. Very poor.

Please don't tell me about David Hale, he wasn't this good. Zero hits after first inning.


Harang, Hale.....even Santana.......are NOT this good.

These guys may be good at what they do.....they also seem to have the same juju that the cards have had when it comes to being able to pull anyone at out of their behinds and have them pitch well.


They do have a HC...... and just like Jacoby.... he was dealt a card of hitters who do not....or cannot listen or see what the problem is, mainly their own.

[Red Raindog]

This game is over already? Could I get a final score?

TV broadcast was blacked out tonight. Fox Sports Ohio was showing the Blue Jackets, and the alternate channel had Time Warner's broadcast of the Crew. Then in the fifth inning, the local radio affiliate had technical difficulties and lost the feed, so I got Jeremy Schaap on ESPN Radio for the rest of the night.

4-1

Reds were helpless

[Big Klu]

4-1

Reds were helpless

Thanks.