5/29/14 Reds @ Arizona Larussas @ 9:40pm

[klw]

#Reds lineup
Hamilton 8,
Frazier 5,
Phillips 4,
Bruce 9,
Mesoraco 2,
Ludwick 7,
Pena 3,
Cozart 6,
Cingrani LHP

v
Josh Collmenter, RHP
3-2, 3.91 ERA

Collmenter had one of his best outings of the season his last time out. Against the Mets, he went six innings and surrendered only two runs. Collmenter has given up three or fewer earned runs in four of his last six starts.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_05_29_cinmlb_arimlb_1#gid=2014_ 05_29_cinmlb_arimlb_1&mode=probables


AZ Larussas Lineup
A.J. Pollock CF
Chris Owings SS
Paul Goldschmidt 1B
Martin Prado 3B
Aaron Hill 2B
Cody Ross LF
Gerardo Parra RF
Tuffy Gosewisch C
Josh Collmenter P

Is Tuffy Gosewisch really the name of a MLB player? Sounds like a guy on the Yale Squash team.




Reds: Lutz may see time vs. D-backs
In his first start in the big leagues this season, Donald Lutz played first base Tuesday and went 2-for-4 vs. the Dodgers' Zack Greinke with a double and run scored.

Although Arizona will feature three straight right-handed pitchers in the first three games of the series, Price did not commit to starting the lefty-hitting Lutz. The Reds have had a void at first base, with Joey Votto on the disabled list with a left quad strain.

"I think he'll play, how much he'll play, I don't know exactly," Price said of Lutz. "With Joey out, it does free up some opportunities and playing time at first base. I love what Brayan Pena brings to the club every day he's in the lineup. It's not like there is a glaring hole in our lineup where it's easy to stick Donald into that."
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_05_29_cinmlb_arimlb_1#gid=2014_ 05_29_cinmlb_arimlb_1&mode=preview

[kbrake]

I find it very concerning that Bryan Price doesn't view LF as a glaring hole.

[Kingspoint]

Collmenter has given up three or fewer earned runs in four of his last six starts.

Having only eight starts all season, Collmenter has given up at least three runs in six of them. He's pitched more than 6.0 Innings in only one of them. He's given up an average of 5.00 runs per nine innings in those eight starts.

And, he has the lowest ERA of any Arizona starter.

[Kingspoint]

We scored three runs against Greinke and three runs against Kershaw.

That should translate to at least five tonight, right?

[PepperJack]

I find it very concerning that Bryan Price doesn't view LF as a glaring hole.

Cmon, you know he couldn't say anything else there.

I do think it just speaks that organizationally the Reds aren't sold on Lutz. They like him enough to keep on the 40 man, and they likely think very well of his LH pop, but they don't seem to coddle him, or make him much of a priority.

[PepperJack]

from klw: Is Tuffy Gosewisch really the name of a MLB player? Sounds like a guy on the Yale Squash team.



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[Kc61]

My view. Before last night's game Price decided (or was told) to stop messing around with fancy lineups and play his best players. He did. He won.

So we will now get a long string of games with basically this lineup. Tonight it's yesterday's lineup except Bruce hitting cleanup against the righty.

One problem with this is that yesterday's lineup was against a great lefty. Mostly they face righties. So their "best" lineup against righties might include, for example, Schumaker or Lutz.

[malcontent]

I find it very concerning that Bryan Price doesn't view LF as a glaring hole.
Can't possibly agree more.

[kbrake]

Cmon, you know he couldn't say anything else there.

I do think it just speaks that organizationally the Reds aren't sold on Lutz. They like him enough to keep on the 40 man, and they likely think very well of his LH pop, but they don't seem to coddle him, or make him much of a priority.

I don't expect him to bury Ludwick and frankly there is no reason to, but I do expect the manager to try and give the team the best chance to win and considering Ludwick is currently sitting at .246/.316/.348 I think Price could give Lutz a run in LF and never really comment on it.

[malcontent]

One problem with this is that yesterday's lineup was against a great lefty. Mostly they face righties. So their "best" lineup against righties might include, for example, Schumaker or Lutz.
I was all for Schumaker over Heisey against RHP in RF when Bruce was down.

But then the Dodgers' announcers noticed on his first swing that his shoulder was still bothering him.

But he's the veteran and when we needed a 3-run HR the other night, Price goes with him over Lutz. Go figure.

[malcontent]

nm

[malcontent]

I don't expect him to bury Ludwick...
Not Donald's job to bury him, that should be Price's.

Just step over the corpse when approaching the plate.

[PepperJack]

I don't expect him to bury Ludwick and frankly there is no reason to, but I do expect the manager to try and give the team the best chance to win and considering Ludwick is currently sitting at .246/.316/.348 I think Price could give Lutz a run in LF and never really comment on it.

I agree that Ludwick is a problem, and that Lutz should likely get a longer look.

I was just meaning that Price can't be quoted saying that, even if he believes otherwise.

There could just be an organizational push to see if Ludwick can have a 2012 bounce, so that the Reds can feel like they are getting their monies worth. I don't know that's the case, but it wouldn't be unheard of in baseball, where the established veteran got the bulk of playing time, earned or not.

If Votto is out long enough, Lutz may be able to force the issue either way.

[kbrake]

Not Donald's job to bury him, that should be Price's.

Just step over the corpse when approaching the plate.

I meant I don't expect Price to bury Ludwick to the media. I think this team wants to win so I don't really buy that it front office pressure either. I just don't get the line of thinking from Price.

[villain612]

We could really close the ground between where we are now and the .500 mark with this Diamondbacks series.

Sure would be nice to get a win streak going again.

[Ironman92]

Reds win 8-6

[villain612]

I understood starting Ludwick in LF at the beginning of the year....but at this point, I don't care about sunken costs anymore.

I think Lutz is easily worth the gamble to give him some playing time. The Reds are barely staying alive in the standings as it is.

Maybe he catches lightning in a bottle. They're gonna need a little luck to contend anyway.

[PepperJack]

Nope, still not normal.


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[Larkin Fan]

Since LaRussa is with the D'backs now, are they going to start calling everything they do the 'Diamondback way'?

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Nope, still not normal.


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Someone better tell Bronson he's with the wrong team's players!

[RedsBrick]

Since LaRussa is with the D'backs now, are they going to start calling everything they do the 'Diamondback way'?

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Someone better tell Bronson he's with the wrong team's players!

...and will D'back fans now inherently boo DatDude?

[KittyDuran]

Nope, still not normal.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bo12GvwIAAAdWGU.jpg:large
Maybe its the angle - but he looks like he's gained some weight?

[miamiredskin]

Like Bronson. a lot.

But not too much...haha.

[RedWilly]

This game is basically in the bag for the Reds.

[miamiredskin]

This game is basically in the bag for the Reds.

you realize we already won once this week?

[kbrake]

Just finished my nap. We got this.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton strikes out swinging

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier strikes out looking on a pitch that looked outside

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Phillips flies out to center. 0-0 mid 1st

[miamiredskin]

hmm. will see how Tony feels tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pollock lines a double to left center

[Reds Fanatic]

Off to a bad start tonight. Pollock steals 3rd and scores as the throw goes into left. 1-0 Dbacks

[miamiredskin]

inside the park hr. hmm.

[Red Raindog]

this promising -- :bang:

[Roy Tucker]

Frazier ole'ed that one.

[Reds Fanatic]

Owings strikes out swinging

[miamiredskin]

nice, and helpful, call by the 1b ump.

[miamiredskin]

this promising -- :bang:

hey Raindog...go you still like Pena after last nights game?

[kbrake]

Thom LOVES him some RBI.

[Roy Tucker]

Thom is having an RBI orgasm over Goldschmidt

[Reds Fanatic]

Goldschmidt strikes out swinging

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Prado flies out to right. 1-0 Dbacks after 1

[VR]

Since Tony ran off his streak of 2,130 starts without giving up 5 hits.....he's given up 6 or more in his last 4 starts.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is a hopeful sign. Bruce lines out to right

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Mesoraco flies out to right

[Tom Servo]

Thom LOVES him some RBI.
If you took a shot every time he refers to 'runs knocked in' and maybe a little extra when you hear him get a little randy when talking about an RBI number in the hundreds, you'd be dead in a night.

[RedWilly]

Comeback wins are better anyway!!

[kbrake]

If you took a shot every time he refers to 'runs knocked in' and maybe a little extra when you hear him get a little randy when talking about an RBI number in the hundreds, you'd be dead in a night.

This morning I felt like I played that game last night.

[villain612]

Reds are scoring more than 1 run tonight. Take it to the bank

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick strikes out looking. 1-0 Dbacks mid 2nd

[The Operator]

I just checked the box score to find another unearned run.

Is the defense still great? :p

[Red Raindog]

hey Raindog...go you still like Pena after last nights game?

:KoolAid:

[Roy Tucker]

Collmenter has one funky delivery.

[powersackers]

I'm 99% sure that Chris Welsh reads Redszone. Maybe during games even.

[The Operator]

Reds are scoring more than 1 run tonight. Take it to the bank2 runs? I dunno...

[Reds Fanatic]

Hill lines a single to left

[villain612]

2 runs? I dunno...

Positivity.

[RedWilly]

Reds are scoring more than 1 run tonight. Take it to the bank

You can def stay tonight!

[Reds Fanatic]

Ross singles to right. 1st and 2nd

[Tom Servo]

In theory the fact that the Reds traded away Cody Ross doesn't bother me, but the fact that they could have kept him but instead chose to keep Quinton freakin McCracken still gets my goat to this day.

[The Operator]

I'm 99% sure that Chris Welsh reads Redszone. Maybe during games even.I'm certain he does.

Back in 2010 when The Reds were playing the Astros when they had Bourgeois. I remarked "We should call up that Proletariat kid, he could get him out." Chris repeated the joke less than 60 seconds later.

[Roy Tucker]

Cingrani is starting to get his face on.

[Reds Fanatic]

Parra lines out to short

[villain612]

These Dbacks commentators are insufferable.

On Mesoraco, "He should be used to the dirt. He's from Punxsutawney, Penssylvania!".

[gilpdawg]

I just checked the box score to find another unearned run.

Is the defense still great? :p

Yes. Sometimes defense slumps too.

[The Operator]

Yes. Sometimes defense slumps too.I know, I was being a smartass more than anything. Hence the smiley.

[gilpdawg]

These Dbacks commentators are insufferable.

On Mesoraco, "He should be used to the dirt. He's from Punxsutawney, Penssylvania!".

I kind of like Berthiaume.

[toledodan]

Around mlb the royals Billy butler just got thrown out at first from right field.

[gilpdawg]

I know, I was being a smartass more than anything. Hence the smiley.

I know, I was just using your joke to make a point.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gosewich walkd. Bases loaded

[Tom Servo]

Walking Tuffy Gosewich. C'mon man.

[The Operator]

Around mlb the royals Billy butler just got thrown out at first from right field.

The old 9-4 putout, eh? That wouldn't be embarrassing or anything.

[kbrake]

Cingrani really making a case for keeping Simon in the rotation.

[Roy Tucker]

The old 9-4 putout, eh? That wouldn't be embarrassing or anything.

Clemente used to do that.

I'm old.

[Reds Fanatic]

DP gets them out of the inning. 6-4-3. 1-0 Dbacks after 2.

[Chuckie]

6-4-3 ... yessir!

[CWRed]

Anyone notice Cingrani is consistently hitting only 91-92 on his fastball?

[powersackers]

Rack 'em up.

[The Operator]

Walking Tuffy Gosewich. C'mon man.I don't remember Cingrani struggling with his control nearly as bad last year.

Perhaps I'm remembering wrong though. I dunno.

[The Operator]

Cingrani really making a case for keeping Simon in the rotation.I doubt it'll happen but Cingrani going to the bullpen wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, what with Marshall and Parra both getting beaten senseless with regularity.

[Chuckie]

Brayan "The Beast" Pena.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena with a leadoff double. 7 game hit streak

[kbrake]

Anyone notice Cingrani is consistently hitting only 91-92 on his fastball?

Pretty sure that is where he always is. Got it up to 94 earlier but I think he sits around 91.

[villain612]

Penamatic

[Red Raindog]

Joey who?

[Roy Tucker]

Brayan "The Beast" Pena.

Brayan "The Babe" Pena

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Oh good lord.

[Reds Fanatic]

DP. Cozart flies out to center and Pena is easily thrown out at 3rd

[Tom Servo]

Not the best risk to take but with this anemic offense of late, don't really blame them.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Toot Toot

[kbrake]

I doubt it'll happen but Cingrani going to the bullpen wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, what with Marshall and Parra both getting beaten senseless with regularity.

I think Marshall is basically rehabbing at the ML level at this point and Parra is being overused. Cingrani to the pen could be helpful.

[Red Raindog]

Joey who?

runs like him too

[Reds Fanatic]

Cingrani bunts and grounds out to 2nd. 1-0 Dbacks mid 3rd

[Chuckie]

Yep, good stuff from FSO here. I'll always be a Bronson Arroyo fan (when he's not pitching v the Reds).

[Reds Fanatic]

Pollock grounds out to short

[villain612]

The Diamondback announcers approve of the OPS stat.

Maybe they've turned a corner.

[Tom Servo]

Cingrani making the case that the Reds really should have kept Bronson...

[Reds Fanatic]

Owings with a ground rule double to the pool

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Goldschmidt hit it hard on a ground out to short. 2 outs.

[Larkin Fan]

Thom is ticked cuz Goldschmidt didn't "get it done" that time.

[gilpdawg]

Owings with a ground rule double to the pool

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Goldschmidt hit it hard on a ground out to short. 2 outs.

Classless baseballs. Don't the balls know they aren't allowed in the pool? Ask the Dodgers.

[gilpdawg]

Cozy getting a workout tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Prado gounds out to short. 1-0 Dbacks after 3.

[Tom Servo]

Thom is ticked cuz Goldschmidt didn't "get it done" that time.
Now he's trying to say the Diamondbacks are playing better because La Russa got a front office job.


Dis freakin guy...

[RedWilly]

Alright guys we need to pick up the positivity tonight. I'll get the lollipops. Who's got the rainbows and unicorns???

[Roy Tucker]

There was a really white guy in the pool. Casper.

[villain612]

Edwin Encarnacion hit two more HR's today.

15th and 16th this month.

What's in the water in Toronto?

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton singles to right

[RedWilly]

Here we go - 3 or 4 runs this inning

[Larkin Fan]

Billy ball time.

[Roy Tucker]

So come on Join In. Everybody.
Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
everything that's wonderful is sure to come your way
cause your in love, your in love

[Larkin Fan]

Edwin Encarnacion hit two more HR's today.

15th and 16th this month.

What's in the water in Toronto?



Maybe it's not in the water? ;)

[The Operator]

Now he's trying to say the Diamondbacks are playing better because La Russa got a front office job.


Dis freakin guy...Maybe he brought some of Mark McGwire's special pills with him.

[Chuckie]

The Billy Hamilton effect. They're having a meeting at the mound just because he's on base. You think he's in the pitcher's head?

[Chuckie]

Geezus, looked like a hit but was a double play. Mother.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier grounds into a DP on the first pitch

[Larkin Fan]

Had Frazier played perfectly. Wow.

[The Operator]

Edwin Encarnacion hit two more HR's today.

15th and 16th this month.

What's in the water in Toronto?Did you guys know that he used to be a Red? Someone told me today and well, that's certainly the first I've heard of it.

[RedWilly]

Here we go - 3 or 4 runs this inning
Ok maybe just 1 or 2.

[gilpdawg]

Now he's trying to say the Diamondbacks are playing better because La Russa got a front office job.


Dis freakin guy...

I wish I could get unblock us to work with my Roku so I could turn Thom off. I can probably get it but don't really wanna mess with it right now,

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd. 1-0 Dbacks mid 4th

[Chuckie]

Same old same old. Our pitching is good and our offense sucks. Wake me up in 2015. (But only if we sign or trade for a legit LF.)

[Tony Cloninger]

I find it very concerning that Bryan Price doesn't view LF as a glaring hole.

I liked Dusty. But does he not sound exactly like Dusty with these quotes?

[Roy Tucker]

Did you guys know that he used to be a Red? Someone told me today and well, that's certainly the first I've heard of it.

Gee, I wonder why they didn't keep him. Darn.

[RedWilly]

Same old same old. Our pitching is good and our offense sucks. Wake me up in 2015. (But only if we sign or trade for a legit LF.)

I'm putting you in charge of the rainbows

[kbrake]

I liked Dusty. But does he not sound exactly like Dusty with these quotes?

I was hoping he would be different from Dusty in a lot of ways. This was one of them. That sounds exactly like Dusty.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hill homers to left. 2-0 Dbacks

[Tom Servo]

I really do like Cingrani, but I am getting pretty tired of him in the rotation this year. If anything he's actually been worse than his overall numbers show.

[Roy Tucker]

Cingrani said a not very positive word.

[villain612]

If Cingrani can keep them to 2 runs, then it's not that bad of an outing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ross pops out to short

[villain612]

The Giants are beating the Cardinals 6-4 in the 8th inning.

Positivity.

[RedWilly]

Cingrani said a not very positive word.

I'd put him in charge of the Unicorns but he seems busy

[Ironman92]

Just bought these two for $37 total! Yes Sir

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[Tony Cloninger]

I was hoping he would be different from Dusty in a lot of ways. This was one of them. That sounds exactly like Dusty.

And the bunting? Forget Dusty....He is like John McGraw with the bunting.

Some of these players though.....they are just not playing for him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Parra walks

[powersackers]

Kirk Gibson skipped his own boys HS graduation because "it was expected"

[Tony Cloninger]

I wished Frazier would have let Billy run. He is out of practice.

[Tom Servo]

Thom, the Diamondbacks players went on the record right away and said they don't concern themselves with La Russa being added to the front office. What the hell are you on about.

[kbrake]

And the bunting? Forget Dusty....He is like John McGraw with the bunting.

Some of these players though.....they are just not playing for him.

I think the bunting has been overblown and a lot of the really bad bunt situations were players doing it on their own.

[Roy Tucker]

Cingrani's motion is all over the place.

[villain612]

Tony hasn't thrown a strike in 8 pitches

[Falcon7]

Edwin Encarnacion hit two more HR's today.

15th and 16th this month.

What's in the water in Toronto?

18 Hr's and 48 meaningless rbi. And no E(s) for EE either... Well, at least tonight.

[CWRed]

Fastball down to 90. Bet Tony's DL'd tomorrow. Something's not right.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gosewich flies out to center

[RedWilly]

That guy is a bad hitter

[Reds Fanatic]

Collmenter strikes out looking. 2-0 Dbacks after 4.

[CWRed]

Consecutive 90, 89, 89 mph fastballs.

[RedWilly]

Fastball down to 90. Bet Tony's DL'd tomorrow. Something's not right.

If thats true he will stick it out till Latos is back.

[kbrake]

Fastball down to 90. Bet Tony's DL'd tomorrow. Something's not right.

His average fastball last year was 91.8

[Red Raindog]

Fastball down to 90. Bet Tony's DL'd tomorrow. Something's not right.

Francis IS gone -- right?

['69]

Edwin Encarnacion hit two more HR's today.

15th and 16th this month.

What's in the water in Toronto?

The Reds could use some of whatever it is, they have 18 combined, 2nd last in the NL

Beat by a few minutes.

[villain612]

Brkkkkkkkkkce

[Tom Servo]

Bruce is totally lost. Collmenter sucks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging

[Playadlc]

Bruce seriously needs to get his stuff together. This is getting ridiculous.

[Tony Cloninger]

I think the bunting has been overblown and a lot of the really bad bunt situations were players doing it on their own.

Accountability for the players doing that then? I mean that is even worse, if they were doing that on their own.

This team is so dead that only the opposite personality of a Baker or Price can put them back to life. Yes....Injuries too.

[Red Raindog]

Bruce blown away by Roger Clemens Collmenter

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco grounds out to 2nd

[kbrake]

I knew we were headed for trouble when I saw we had Wainwright, Ryu, Greinke, Kershaw, Collmenter in consecutive nights....

OK seriously what the hell is going on? This is frustrating.

[Tony Cloninger]

18 Hr's and 48 meaningless rbi. And no E(s) for EE either... Well, at least tonight.

You might as well bring up the Reds trading Curt Flood....who took about 3 years to develop or Mike Cuellar who took 9 years and two different other teams to develop.

[Roy Tucker]

I guess everyone looks like Wainwright, Greinke, and Kershaw to the Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick fouls out to left. 2-0 Dbacks mid 5th

[Tom Servo]

Collmenter at just 54 pitches thru 5.

[kbrake]

Accountability for the players doing that then? I mean that is even worse, if they were doing that on their own.

This team is so dead that only the opposite personality of a Baker or Price can put them back to life. Yes....Injuries too.

They are not dead they just don't have a ton of good bats to begin with and they've been missing their best one for awhile. Someone screaming at them isn't going to make them better. As far as the accountability you haven't seen a player bunt Hamilton to third since it happened have you? It happened once and I'm guessing Price explained that wasn't ideal. I don't know what you want him to do.

['69]

Kirk Gibson skipped his own boys HS graduation because "it was expected"

Lol...Okay.

[Red Raindog]

I knew we were headed for trouble when I saw we had Wainwright, Ryu, Greinke, Kershaw, Collmenter in consecutive nights....

OK seriously what the hell is going on? This is frustrating.

I can tell you --- you are seeing a bad hitting team - injured and in a season long slump -- the ultimate ugliness

[Reds Fanatic]

Collmenter at just 54 pitches thru 5.

That is just pitiful. I have a feeling Arroyo is going to give this team fits tomorrow too

[Reds Fanatic]

Pollock grounds out to 3rd

[kbrake]

That is just pitiful. I have a feeling Arroyo is going to give this team fits tomorrow too

Price could help by loading up with left handed bats but I have no confidence we'll see that at this point.

[Reds Fanatic]

Owings grounds out to 3rd

[reds44]

Yeah, every lefty on the team should be in the lineup tomorrow. I'd even play Santiago over Cozart.

[kaldaniels]

Who was that efficient pitcher we just saw?

[Reds Fanatic]

Goldschmidt flies out to the track in right center. 2-0 Dbacks after 5

['69]

Got a quick one goin' tonight.

I've wrongly held the perception of Cingrani as a fire-baller...hmm.

[Roy Tucker]

Ok, a good inning by Cingrani. Let's go kick some DBack butt now.

Do snakes have butts?

[powersackers]

Use any adjective you want. But the best I can come up with is unacceptable.

Bunch of head case try hards that can't compete with their peers. Can't hardly even put up a fight. Can't start a rally, can't pressure a defense, can't stress a starter. Just plain unacceptable.

[Tony Cloninger]

They are not dead they just don't have a ton of good bats to begin with and they've been missing their best one for awhile. Someone screaming at them isn't going to make them better. As far as the accountability you haven't seen a player bunt Hamilton to third since it happened have you? It happened once and I'm guessing Price explained that wasn't ideal. I don't know what you want him to do.

I did not say bring in a Billy Martin clone although that guy just seemed to turn teams around for at least a year or 2 before you get tired of his act.

I don't know what I want him to do. Shuffle some papers? Seriously...... quit standing by players who are not producing or have not in 2 years like Ludwick.

I think I am just really annoyed at how Lutz is brought up and then you sit him except for 1 game where he gets to bat.

Bruce and Marshall should be doing rehab. That is not Price's fault that is the FO fault.

[villain612]

I'm not pulling a junkhead when I bring up Shin Soo Choo (I didn't think the Reds should give him 7 years/135 million) but this is the kind of offense you see when you have two guys with .400+ OBP not in your lineup anymore.

So far, Mesoraco is the only guy who's really upped his offensive output this year (and he's missed half the games).

[Red Raindog]

Got a quick one goin' tonight.

I've wrongly held the perception of Cingrani as a fire-baller...hmm.

deceptive

[Reds Fanatic]

Another hit for Pena.

[Red Raindog]

I'm not pulling a junkhead when I bring up Shin Soo Choo (I didn't think the Reds should give him 7 years/135 million) but this is the kind of offense you see when you have two guys with .400+ OBP not in your lineup anymore.

So far, Mesoraco is the only guy who's really upped his offensive output this year (and he's missed half the games).

Pena

[malcontent]

And the bunting? Forget Dusty....He is like John McGraw with the bunting.

Some of these players though.....they are just not playing for him.
Yeah, it's as if he learned everything he knows at the knee of Baker. Nightmare.

Cozart can't make enough outs, fast enough.

['69]

Wasn't it against the DBacks when the 22-5 run started in 2012?

[Tom Servo]

Cozart, you jamoke.

[Reds Fanatic]

The 3rd DP the Reds have hit into tonight. 5-4-3.

[kbrake]

I did not say bring in a Billy Martin clone although that guy just seemed to turn teams around for at least a year or 2 before you get tired of his act.

I don't know what I want him to do. Shuffle some papers? Seriously...... quit standing by players who are not producing or have not in 2 years like Ludwick.

I think I am just really annoyed at how Lutz is brought up and then you sit him except for 1 game where he gets to bat.

Bruce and Marshall should be doing rehab. That is not Price's fault that is the FO fault.

We are 100% together on the Lutz/Ludwick frustration.

[Tom Servo]

http://i.imgur.com/ZbQdVgb.png

[BluegrassRedleg]

It's almost irrelevant who pitches against the Reds.

[Playadlc]

This is an embarrassment.

[Chuckie]

This team is excruciating to watch. GITMO-level torture.

[Red Raindog]

the back of my eyelids are more interesting right now -- good night

[kbrake]

Wasn't it against the DBacks when the 22-5 run started in 2012?

I don't know but I hope it started with getting dominated through 6 innings by a bad SP. The run starts next inning!

[Reds Fanatic]

Cingrani grounds out to Collmenter. 2-0 Dbacks mid 6th

[kaldaniels]

http://i.imgur.com/ZbQdVgb.png

Some of the Redszone 10.

[villain612]

Pena

Pena has played well.

But he's a backup/utility player.

[BCubb2003]

The scorekeeper ruled it offensive indifference.

[Reds Fanatic]

That was an 8 pitch inning. Just 62 pitches for Collmenter.

[reds44]

http://i.imgur.com/ZbQdVgb.png

This is pretty much what 98% of dudes on twitter look like.

[Tony Cloninger]

http://i.imgur.com/ZbQdVgb.png

Molly Hatchet's in town?

[malcontent]

Some of the Redszone 10.
Names would be nice.

[Tony Cloninger]

That was an 8 pitch inning. Just 62 pitches for Collmenter.

Are they still jet lagged?

[RedWilly]

Yeah, it's as if he learned everything he knows at the knee of Baker. Nightmare.

Cozart can't make enough outs, fast enough.
But he is trying to make as many outs as he can as fast as he can - so there is that.

[Reds Fanatic]

Prado doubles to left center. Cingrani is really frustrating to watch pitch this year

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Great. Hoover is warming up

Single to center. 3-0 Dbacks

[Falcon7]

You might as well bring up the Reds trading Curt Flood....who took about 3 years to develop or Mike Cuellar who took 9 years and two different other teams to develop.

Why, are they unreal HOT right now?

[Ironman92]

Rockets getting hit

[Tom Servo]

Redlegs...

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shaking_head_breaking_bad.gif

[malcontent]

Game. Time for Price to stop forfeiting one-run games to get Santiago PT.

Otherwise, they won't hold off the Cubs for 4th.

[reds44]

So the "throw low 90's fastballs and nothing else" think is finally starting to catch up to Tony C, eh?

[Reds Fanatic]

Hoover coming in

[villain612]

The 2013 Reds were 3rd in the NL in runs, 2nd in OBP and 10th in SLG.

The 2014 Reds are 13th in the NL in runs, 12th in OBP and 11th in SLG.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ross fouls out to 1st

[reds44]

I still think the offense would be acceptable if Bruce and Votto stopped being hurt/sucking.

['69]

How does a team just up and change it's colors? They were better in the purple and teal.

[Roy Tucker]

The 2013 Reds were 3rd in the NL in runs, 2nd in OBP and 10th in SLG.

The 2014 Reds are 13th in the NL in runs, 12th in OBP and 11th in SLG.

Ouch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Parra strikes out swinging

[Gallen5862]

The giants just beat the Cards.

[Tony Cloninger]

Why, are they unreal HOT right now?

No.....they are deceased.

[Redsfansince72]

dont worry Walt will blame everything on injuries instead of the lack of hitting on the Reds organization that doesnt demand the players make adjustments (hit the other way/Hit where nobody is fielding aka shifts, etc..

[Roy Tucker]

Hoover is useful. Price just needs to use him when there is no pressure.

[Redsfansince72]

i was thinking about buying more tickets.. why waste my time if the team shows no effort to make changes to at least send messages this is not acceptable!! Welsh Says Hoover is good??? What he watching

[Ironman92]

Heisey has more XBH than Bruce in 34 fewer plate appearances....

[Reds Fanatic]

Gosewich flies out to center. 3-0 Dbacks after 6

[RedWilly]

This game is still in reach!!! Let's do this!!!

[gilpdawg]

i was thinking about buying more tickets.. why waste my time if the team shows no effort to make changes to at least send messages this is not acceptable!! Welsh Says Hoover is good??? What he watching

Um, because he has been since that bad start?

[Ironman92]

i was thinking about buying more tickets.. why waste my time if the team shows no effort to make changes to at least send messages this is not acceptable!! Welsh Says Hoover is good??? What he watching

I bought my front row tickets because I love baseball. Every game is unpredictable on what you'll see. You never know.

[Roy Tucker]

If the Reds don't score here, I'm going to have myself a little hissy fit. Followed by stamping my feet and saying fudge.

[kbrake]

Alright here we go this is our inning.

[kbrake]

It is actually getting worse. I don't know how but it is.

[Tony Cloninger]

Um, because he has been since that bad start?

How many times are we going to hear this while he loses game after game? 2 years in a row it takes him well over a month to look decent while he has taken the loss in about 5-6 games in April/May in the last 2 years.

That gets tiring.

[BluegrassRedleg]

How does a team just up and change it's colors? They were better in the purple and teal.

Love our red and white classic look, but way too many teams in MLB have it these days. Miss the D-backs' original uniforms, the Phillies' maroon and light blue and the Angels' maroon and navy from back in the day.

While we're at it, bring back the Padres' brown-n-golds! :D

['69]

Heisey has more XBH than Bruce in 34 fewer plate appearances....

Jacked up knee + a typical JB drought.

Ya know, a platoon of Heisey and Lutz in left would be worth a shot.

[villain612]

Whoever did the scouting on Frazier gets a raise.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I bought my front row tickets because I love baseball. Every game is unpredictable on what you'll see. You never know.

I'm more or less like that, too, but I know for a lot of people, the game requires too much emotional/time investment with little payoff.

[Tony Cloninger]

Felix Perez is slugging over .650 in the last 2 weeks in AAA. OPS over .800.

Start platooning him and Ludwick in LF and Lutz and Pena at 1B. Try something until Bruce is done with his Major League Rehab and if/when Joey gets back.

You don't win divisions in April and May but the Reds are sure losing it

[gilpdawg]

How many times are we going to hear this while he loses game after game? 2 years in a row it takes him well over a month to look decent while he has taken the loss in about 5-6 games in April/May in the last 2 years.

That gets tiring.

Well, I would say we are going to hear it twice. ;)

[BluegrassRedleg]

Only the second time in Collmenter's career that he's tossed 7 shutout innings. Just twice in 44 career starts.

[Stray]

I've gone from thinking we'd be a good contending team to watching games and hoping we can just score a run. Not even June yet, dang.

[Roy Tucker]

I'm more or less like that, too, but I know for a lot of people, the game requires too much emotional/time investment with little payoff.

I'll never stop going to ballgames. It's one of my most favorite things to do.

What the hell else am I going to do? Go watch a WNBA game?

['69]

And there were crickets when I posted the Reds should leave Arizona with Pollock as the newest Redleg.

No sac fly, nice.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well, I would say we are going to hear it twice. ;)

Well you got me there!

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Only the second time in Collmenter's career that he's tossed 7 shutout innings. Just twice in 44 career starts.


I like the positive vibes! Keep it coming. :laugh:

[BluegrassRedleg]

Prado = solid candidate for my Redlegs "Unretireable" Team.

[villain612]

Let's go offense! Or something...

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[Chuckie]

This must be what it feels like for an alcoholic to hit rock-bottom. We're getting shut out by Josh Collmenter.

[gilpdawg]

I'm tapping out. Gonna flip over to Pirates/Dodgers since that game is tied. Sometimes we score 6 runs after I change it. Let's hope.

[Kc61]

I still think the offense would be acceptable if Bruce and Votto stopped being hurt/sucking.

Cozart, Hamilton, Ludwick, the pitcher, Phillips cover five of nine positions. The Reds would need more from those spots even if Votto and Bruce were healthier.

It's very hard to win with only four or five hitters, even good ones. Six good hitters, more possible.

[5TimeWSChamps]

As someone born in 84 I didn't have the displeasure of living through the 1982 season.

So for those in their late 30's and older... Has this year been worse than 82?

[villain612]

This must be what it feels like for an alcoholic to hit rock-bottom. We're getting shut out by Josh Collmenter.

We've reached base exactly 3 times today.

And Pena was 2/3 of that.

[5TimeWSChamps]

Each inning is more frustrating than the last. 3 straight 8-pitch innings?

[Roy Tucker]

Roy drops back 15 yards and punts.

[toledodan]

As someone born in 84 I didn't have the displeasure of living through the 1982 season.

So for those in their late 30's and older... Has this year been worse than 82?

Not even close but we didn't have social media and message boards back then.

[Chuckie]

If I thought the Bengals would be good I'd say something like "Can't wait until football season."

As it stands, I'll say "Can't wait until 2015."

[Kc61]

This is all on the front office's shoulders. They had only three high performing hitters last year, lost one, and let it go.

They should know that when one major area is weak, it puts too much pressure on the rest of the club. Reds pitchers have no margin for error and they know it.

If I were Castellini I would give it this weekend and start making changes.

[CWRed]

Under 80 pitches thru 8 innings for this guy. This team should be ashamed of themselves. Worse than the Dusty years.

[Tony Cloninger]

As someone born in 84 I didn't have the displeasure of living through the 1982 season.

So for those in their late 30's and older... Has this year been worse than 82?

The 1982 Reds at this same many games had already scored more runs than this team.

They actually had a team BA of over .280 in the middle of May....just no power and not much OBP , besides Driessen.

After about 300 AB's... Cedeno and I think Davey had OPS over .800 or it might have been Driessen.

The team went south badly in the middle to late June and never looked back.

Before that they looked better than this team. I am not lying.

But that is of course without a healthy Votto and Bruce. NO Votto and Bruce and yes 1982 Reds very much.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Well you got me there!

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I like the positive vibes! Keep it coming. :laugh:

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