2014 MLB Draft - Reds Picks and Signings

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All,

Here is our list of players selected by the Reds in the 2014 MLB draft. Please use this thread to report official information related to player signing so that we can keep track of transactions. Please use one of the discussion threads to discuss specific picks beyond their signing status.

For additional information, please look to JaxRed's google document here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseuTZh70U-SdDRoMUEwRGRDTnoyZDJNb3I4R01WeGc&usp=sharing#gid=0

Confirmed signings will be in bold. Confirmed players who are not going to sign will be in italics. Slot Values

(round)(pick)
1.19 - Nick Howard RHP University of Virginia BA Ranking #25 Slot Value $2,090,500 SB 1,990,500
1.29 - Alex Blandino SS Stanford University BA Ranking #30 Slot Value $1,788,000 SB $1,788,000
2.58 - Taylor Sparks 3B University of California-Irvine BA Ranking #87 Slot Value $972,800 SB $972,800
3.94 - Wyatt Strahan RHP University of Southern California BA Ranking #94 Slot Value $558,700 SB $558,700
4.125 - Gavin LaValley 1B/3B Carl Albert HS Slot Value $411,900 SB $525,000
5.155 - Tejay Antone RHP Weatherford College, Texas BA Ranking #237 Slot Value $308,400 SB $308,400
6.185 - Jose Lopez RHP Seton Hall Slot Value $230,900 SB $85,000
7.215 - Shane Mardirosian 2B Martin Luther King HS BA Ranking #223 Slot Value $173,200 SB $350,000
8.245 - Brian O'Grady 1B Rutgers U New Brunswick Slot Value $155,900 SB $10,000
9.275 - Brian Hunter RHP University of Hartford Slot Value $145,500 SB $5,000
10.305 -Seth Varner LHP Miami U (OH) Slot Value $137,600 SB $5,000
11.335 - Mitch Trees C Mitch Sacred Heart Griffin HS (IL) BA Ranking #430 Slot Value $100,000 SB $300,000
12.365 - Montrell Marshall 3B South Gwinnett HS lot Value $100,000 SB $225,000
13.395 - Zachary Correll RHP Joseph Case HS
14.425 - Jacob Ehret RHP UCLA
15.455 - Jimmy Pickens RF Michigan St U
16.485 - Garrett Boulware C Clemson
17.515 - Jacob Moody LHP Memphis
18.545 - Roderick Bynum CF Monroe Catholic HS (AK) BA Ranking #459
19.575 - Isaac Anderson RHP College of Southern Idaho
20.605 - Conor Krauss RHP Seton Hall
21.635 - Tyler Parmenter RHP Arizona BA Ranking #423
22.665 - Robert Byckowski 3B Blyth Academy
23.695 - Ty Sterner LHP University of Rhode Island
24.725 - Shane Crouse RHP Lake Sumter CC
25.755 - Paul Kronenfeld| 1B Catawba Col
26.785 - Brennan Bernardino LHP Cal St Dominguez Hills
27.815 - Jake Paulson RHP Oakland University
28.845 - Dustin Cook RHP San Jacinto College North
29.875 - Michael Sullivan LHP Gloucester County Col
30.905 - Josciel Veras SS Cumberland U
31.935 - Joshua Palacios CF San Jacinto College North BA Ranking #324
32.965 - Dalton Viner RHP San Jacinto College North
33.995 - Jose Lopez C King HS
34.1025 - Keenan Kish RHP U Florida (FL)
35.1055 - Brandon Vicens CF American Heritage School
36.1085 - Logan Browning LHP Lakeland Christian School
37.1115 - Walker Whitworth 2B Ada HS
38.1145 - Bo Tucker LHP Rome HS
39.1175 - Seth Roadcap C Capital HS
40.1205 - Michael Mediavilla LHP Mater Academy Charter School

Thank you!

[Ladeda]

FWIW-- Slot Values

1.19 $2,090,500
1.29 $1,788,000
2.58 $972,800
3.94 $558,700
4.125 $411,900
5.155 $308,400
6.185 $230,900
7.215 $173,200
8.245 $155,900
9.275 $145,500
10.305 $137,600

[PepperJack]

You can bold TeJay Antone.


Tejay Antone ⚾ @TejayAntone · 2h
It all happened so fast but I got drafted by the Cincinnati Reds in the 5th round! Already signed and headedtoArizona

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpexs_yCQAAmhSG.jpg:large

[corkedbat]

Maybe O'Grady can play LF and the NL will have the DH by in three or four years for LaValley :D

[Gallen5862]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/drafttracker.jsp#ft=team&fv=cin

[PepperJack]

Brian O'Grady is not official, but from his twitter, it's all but a done deal. He has added to his bio "player in the Cincinnati Reds organization".


Brian O'Grady @BrianOGrady21 · Jun 6
couldnt be more excited to have been drafted by the @Reds cant wait to get on the field and follow in the footsteps of @FlavaFraz21

[Gallen5862]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/index.php

[JaxRed]

I've recreated the draft spreadsheet that I did last year. I think this format is able to provide much more information

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseuTZh70U-SdDRoMUEwRGRDTnoyZDJNb3I4R01WeGc&usp=sharing

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I've recreated the draft spreadsheet that I did last year. I think this format is able to provide much more information

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseuTZh70U-SdDRoMUEwRGRDTnoyZDJNb3I4R01WeGc&usp=sharing

JaxRed, if you don't mind, I'd like to add this to the stickied post here in this thread.

[JaxRed]

Please do.

[Gallen5862]

http://www.signalscv.com/section/19/article/121338/


The only local draftee on Saturday without a COC connection was Valencia graduate Brennan Bernardino, who pitched for Cal State Dominguez Hills this past season. He went 785th overall in the 26th round to the Cincinnati Reds.

Bernardino graduated from Valencia in 2010 and went on to play two years at L.A. Mission College before transferring to CSU Dominguez Hills.

Since his time at Valencia, Bernardino said: “I learned the game. I put in a lot of hard work on my mechanics and I’ve known people along the way that have helped me out and helped teach me how to pitch.”

He was the second Valencia grad selected in this year’s draft, following Shane Zeile on Friday. At least one Valencia High product has been drafted every year since 2004.

Like many other young players drafted Saturday, decisions will soon have to be made whether to sign professional contracts or continue with their college careers.

Bernardino said he's already signed and headed to Arizona for Rookie League ball.

[JaxRed]

I've made following moves on spreadsheet: moved Mitch Trees to Likely to Sign, Robert Byckowski as unlikely to Sign, and Jake Paulson as Expected to Sign, Bo Tucker Unlileky to Sign

[OGB]

One short stop?

[Benihana]

One short stop?

Worse still - he's not even a SS.

I really hope the Reds make a big play for the best middle infielder on the international FA market. They have to do something to address the position weakness.

[lollipopcurve]

I really hope the Reds make a big play for the best middle infielder on the international FA market. They have to do something to address the position weakness.

Most likely it'll be a trade.

[dougdirt]

One short stop?
There were only a few true shortstops available in the draft and a few of them have very questionable bats and a few were never available to us. Right now it seems like hope Carlton Daal or one of the rookie ball kids can make something happen. Fortunately, there are about four guys in the lower levels that could be actual shortstops.

[HokieRed]

There were only a few true shortstops available in the draft and a few of them have very questionable bats and a few were never available to us. Right now it seems like hope Carlton Daal or one of the rookie ball kids can make something happen. Fortunately, there are about four guys in the lower levels that could be actual shortstops.

Doug, I've meant to ask you whether the Perez kid at Bakersfield can play an adequate SS. Can he? Thanks.

[PepperJack]

LaValley answered a tweet saying that he will be signing with the Reds.

https://twitter.com/Gavin_LaValley/status/475701694475816960

[Plus Plus]

Can we please keep this thread for news related to player signings and move the discussion to the stickied discussion thread, for ease of reporting player signing news?

Thanks!

[PepperJack]

Brian O'Grady @BrianOGrady21 · 7h
officially a Cincinnati Red!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpoYMSQIUAAgFWp.jpg:large

[lollipopcurve]

LaValley answered a tweet saying that he will be signing with the Reds.


Glad to hear this. No idea how far this kid can advance, because physically and defensively he's a project, but he seems to have real potential as a big RH bay.

[JaxRed]

Upgraded Spreadsheet to show Jacob Paulson and Micheal Sullivan as signed.

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Upgraded Spreadsheet to show Jacob Paulson and Micheal Sullivan as signed.

Is there an article for these two guys?

edit: http://www.silive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/06/staten_island_pitcher_michael.html shows Sullivan signing.

Jake Paulson's twitter confirms that he is going to Arizona for mini-camp.

[JaxRed]

Paulson was his twitter page

[Benihana]

Montrell Marshall's Instagram lists himself as "Professional Baseball player for the Cincinnati Reds"

I think that's a pretty good indication of him signing

[PepperJack]

Mark Sheldon @m_sheldon · 9s
#reds announce signings of 13 Draft picks -- incl. 3rd rounder Wyatt Strahan and 4th rd pick Gavin LaValley

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I marked Strahan and LaValley, but that leaves several signed picks who have not shown up yet.

[PepperJack]

Jamie Ramsey @Jamieblog · 11m
#Reds sign draft picks 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 23, 26, 27 & 29. No word yet on the Powerball.

[corkedbat]

i know it, but can't share until after tomorrow night's drawing. :devil:

[corkedbat]

1, 1A & 2 are still playing in the CWS, correct?

[JaxRed]

Spreadsheet updated with Ramsey signings

[RedTeamGo!]

1, 1A & 2 are still playing in the CWS, correct?

Howard and Sparks are

Blandino has been terminated

[Gallen5862]

this from a KLW post.

RD 17 Jacob Moody
http://instagram.com/p/o_dsitKZKx/
Yesterday my dream ever since I was a little kid came true. I couldn't have gone through it all without these three people. They have been there for me through the ups and downs. Wouldn't want it any other way! I also want to thank all my friends and coaches especially @memphisbaseball and all they did for me. I am truly blessed! Can't wait to start my first job as a Cincinnati reds baseball player!

[corkedbat]

Howard and Sparks are

Blandino has been terminated

With extreme prejudice?

[RedTeamGo!]

He'll be back

[wastedtime]

How soon from when these kids sign until we know where they will be assigned?

[corkedbat]

Short seasons start next Monday, so probably by this weekend (if not sooner).

The Billings and Goodyear rosters look fairly solid already

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=513

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=3430

[wastedtime]

okay thanks

[Gallen5862]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Cotillo also tweets that Reds third-rounder Wyatt Strahan received the full slot value of $588,700. MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon reported last night that the two sides had agreed to terms.

[Benihana]

Short seasons start next Monday, so probably by this weekend (if not sooner).

The Billings and Goodyear rosters look fairly solid already

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=513

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=3430

Not sure if those are updated or not, but I'd hope Franklin and Thompson would start in Billings this year. I'd think Marshall should be manning the hot corner in AZL. Not sure where Sparks will start (although I do think SMB should get promoted to Pensacola). I'd think Bakersfield would be too aggressive to start Sparks in, and Rahier should probably stay in Dayton all year.

Maybe Thompson stays in the AZL if they really want Blandino to start at SS in Billings. I'd imagine Strahan goes to Billings too. Any thoughts on where Howard will start? Also, shouldn't Luis Tabata be in the AZL by now, if he's really 19 or 20 years old?

[JaxRed]

If they were trying Howard at Reliever I might think he goes to Dayton. But since they intend to make him a starter... I think everyone is Billlings or Az.

[New Fever]

4th-rder Gavin LaValley's bonus from @Reds = $525k, more than $411,900 pick value at 125. Oklahoma HS 1B w/tremendous bat speed.

https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/476445402691276800

[Benihana]

If they were trying Howard at Reliever I might think he goes to Dayton. But since they intend to make him a starter... I think everyone is Billlings or Az.

Even though Lorenzen basically* started in Dayton under similar circumstances?


*He pitched 1 inning in AZ

[dougdirt]

Even though Lorenzen basically* started in Dayton under similar circumstances?


*He pitched 1 inning in AZ

I think it was very clear what the Reds were doing with Lorenzen last year: Convincing him that pitching was his future to the big leagues instead of hitting.

They talked a big game of letting him do both, then rushed him through four levels to reach Double-A in his first year, never getting more than a few innings at any level. It was all about getting him close, so he could taste things as a pitcher and so they could use him how they envisioned without much resistance on his part.

[dougdirt]

7th rounder Shane Mardirosian seems to be signed according to his twitter account:

Leavin' Tomorrow night Cali! Can't wait got my next step in my life #CincinnatiRed

[Benihana]

I think it was very clear what the Reds were doing with Lorenzen last year: Convincing him that pitching was his future to the big leagues instead of hitting.

They talked a big game of letting him do both, then rushed him through four levels to reach Double-A in his first year, never getting more than a few innings at any level. It was all about getting him close, so he could taste things as a pitcher and so they could use him how they envisioned without much resistance on his part.

Yeah but the more important point is they wouldn't do that if he wasn't ready to pitch at those levels. What would be the point of fast-tracking him if he got rocked? Wouldn't that have the opposite effect and completely shatter his confidence in his pitching ability, making him want to be a hitter?

Based on draft status alone, Howard should be on par or even ahead of where Lorenzen was, considering he's been more of a full-time pitcher than Lorenzen was, and was drafted 19 spots higher (in a reportedly deeper draft). Of course not suggesting he will have the same kind of success or future prospects as Lorenzen, as the latter has clearly flourished - above most expectations. However, if you go off of 12 month plan, I think it's reasonable to assume they might be handled similarly. At least that's how I'd do it anyway (not that that has ever swayed the Reds in the past).

[dougdirt]

Yeah but the more important point is they wouldn't do that if he wasn't ready to pitch at those levels. What would be the point of fast-tracking him if he got rocked? Wouldn't that have the opposite effect and completely shatter his confidence in his pitching ability, making him want to be a hitter?

Based on draft status alone, Howard should be on par or even ahead of where Lorenzen was, considering he's been more of a full-time pitcher than Lorenzen was, and was drafted 19 spots higher (in a reportedly deeper draft). Of course not suggesting he will have the same kind of success or future prospects as Lorenzen, as the latter has clearly flourished - above most expectations. However, if you go off of 12 month plan, I think it's reasonable to assume they might be handled similarly. At least that's how I'd do it anyway (not that that has ever swayed the Reds in the past).

He did get rocked though. In Bakersfield and Pensacola he threw 11.2 innings with 11 walks and 11 strikeouts to go along with an ERA of 5.40 and a WHIP of 1.97. Then they sent him to the Arizona Fall League where those numbers looked good in comparison as he was obliterated. It worked out in the long run because he has been quite strong this year, but once he left Dayton last year he was beat around pretty darn good.

[Benihana]

He did get rocked though. In Bakersfield and Pensacola he threw 11.2 innings with 11 walks and 11 strikeouts to go along with an ERA of 5.40 and a WHIP of 1.97. Then they sent him to the Arizona Fall League where those numbers looked good in comparison as he was obliterated. It worked out in the long run because he has been quite strong this year, but once he left Dayton last year he was beat around pretty darn good.

So "it's pretty clear" the Reds fast-tracked him to get rocked and that built his confidence in wanting to pitch?

Then they decided to start him in AA despite a really bad debut and even worse offseason (presumably so he could keep getting rocked?) and he shocked the world by turning it around.

Sorry I'm not following.

[dougdirt]

So "it's pretty clear" the Reds fast-tracked him to get rocked and that built his confidence in wanting to pitch?

Then they decided to start him in AA despite a really bad debut and even worse offseason (presumably so he could keep getting rocked?) and he shocked the world by turning it around.

Sorry I'm not following.

Last year they fast tracked him to get him close to the Majors. It was nothing more than that. They started him in Double-A because he showed in spring training he was ready to be there and why "demote him" if he looked like he could handle it?

[Benihana]

Last year they fast tracked him to get him close to the Majors. It was nothing more than that. They started him in Double-A because he showed in spring training he was ready to be there and why "demote him" if he looked like he could handle it?

My point is, historically in the Buckley system these college reliever-to-starter conversion guys move fast. They have been -by far- the fastest moving guys in the system - Stewart, Cingrani, and now Lorenzen. Of course a big part of that is that they've been successful at each level, but part of it is the profile. Even though the Reds don't need Howard to move that quickly given the organizational strength in starting pitching, it will be interesting to follow how fast he does move, and what if any impact that may have on what level they start him.

[Gallen5862]

Baseball America has Jose Lopez signing for $85,000 and Brian O'Grady signing for $10,000.

[JaxRed]

Baseball America has Jose Lopez signing for $85,000 and Brian O'Grady signing for $10,000.

We have our sacrificial lamb.

[RedTeamGo!]

8.245 - Brian O'Grady 1B Rutgers U New Brunswick Slot Value $155,900 SB $10,000

Ouch. I bet that was quite the negotiation.

Reds: $10,000
O'Grady: b..b..but, slot value is $155,900
Reds: $10,000
O'Grady: I am a good ballplayer, I deserve at least .....$80,000
Reds: $10,000
O'Grady: Now, hold on just a second here...
Reds: $8,000
O'Grady: Ok! OK! $10,000!!! ::whimper::

[Benihana]

Did Shane Mardirosian sign?

[RedTeamGo!]

I believe so

[dougdirt]

My point is, historically in the Buckley system these college reliever-to-starter conversion guys move fast. They have been -by far- the fastest moving guys in the system - Stewart, Cingrani, and now Lorenzen. Of course a big part of that is that they've been successful at each level, but part of it is the profile. Even though the Reds don't need Howard to move that quickly given the organizational strength in starting pitching, it will be interesting to follow how fast he does move, and what if any impact that may have on what level they start him.

Cingrani and Stewart, like Howard, aren't really a reliever to starter conversion. Cingrani started three of four years in college. Zach Stewart started two out of three years in college. Howard started two of three years in college. Lorenzen is a lot different from those guys. He never started.

[redsof72]

20 and 21 have signed as well.

[RED VAN HOT]

Actually, the way I read it, Howard did not start in his freshman year, only his sophomore year.

http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2011-2012/teamcume.html

Keith Law's draft assessment coupled with Howard's removal from starting in his junior year at a school known for pitching, raises some concern that the Reds may have simply used their #1 on a reliever.

[dougdirt]

Actually, the way I read it, Howard did not start in his freshman year, only his sophomore year.

http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2011-2012/teamcume.html

Keith Law's draft assessment coupled with Howard's removal from starting in his junior year at a school known for pitching, raises some concern that the Reds may have simply used their #1 on a reliever.

You are right that Howard didn't start his freshman year. That's on me.

As for Keith Law.... I will take the word of the guys working for a Major League Baseball team over the guy working at ESPN.

[JaxRed]

I've updated the Spreadsheet with with bonus data for Lopez and O'Brien. And if Redsof72 says 20 and 21 are signed, that good enough for me to update the Spreadsheet. (Even though he won't tell me who he is).

[redsmetz]

7th rounder Shane Mardirosian seems to be signed according to his twitter account:

Leavin' Tomorrow night Cali! Can't wait got my next step in my life #CincinnatiRed

MLBTraderumors.com is reporting that Mirdirosian signed above slot at $350K.

[klw]

7th-rder Shane Mardirosian, @Reds agree on $350k. (pick 215 value = $173,200). Calif HS INF, sparkplug w/speed & line-drive bat. @MLBDraft


https://mobile.twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/476871300934533120

[RED VAN HOT]

The Mardirosian signing pretty much wipes out the savings from the other signings. Hopefully, they can save a little on #9 and #10. I'd like to see them sign Trees.

[PepperJack]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140611&content_id=79276196&notebook_id=79287490&vkey=notebook_cin&c_id=cin#79287492



• The Reds announced the signing of four picks from the 2014 First-Year Player Draft on Wednesday. They were right-hander Tejay Antone (fifth round), left-hander Jacob Moody (17th round), right-hander Tyler Parmenter (21st round) and first baseman Paul Kronenfeld (25th round).

[Benihana]

Confirms my three favorite picks from this draft- Marshall, Mardirosian and Sparks.

[New Fever]

The Reds signed their 9th Round Pick (Brian Hunter) and 10th Round Pick (Seth Varner) for $5,000 each. They are now $275,000 under their slot allotment.


http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/index.php

[dougdirt]

The Reds signed their 9th Round Pick (Brian Hunter) and 10th Round Pick (Seth Varner) for $5,000 each. They are now $275,000 under their slot allotment.


http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/index.php

Sucks to be a senior.

[Nathan]

Sucks to be a senior.

Yes and No. At least they should have a college degree to fall back on, and, who knows, maybe a MLB career to boot. ;)

[RED VAN HOT]

Sucks to be a senior.

Has this become a strategy? Is it an unintended consequence of the CBA? If they had drafted the HS players that they valued more at 8, 9, and 10 and then not been able to sign them, it is my understanding that they would have lost that money. This way, they saved money that they can now use to lure one or more of those HS players from their college commitments.

[dougdirt]

Has this become a strategy? Is it an unintended consequence of the CBA? If they had drafted the HS players that they valued more at 8, 9, and 10 and then not been able to sign them, it is my understanding that they would have lost that money. This way, they saved money that they can now use to lure one or more of those HS players from their college commitments.

It is absolutely a strategy. Teams know that about five seniors a year, if that, can demand actual money for a signing bonus. Now that they have set spending caps and harsh penalties, seniors are going in the first 10 rounds that previously would have gone in rounds 10-30 because it will save teams half a million bucks to spend elsewhere by drafting two seniors in the top 10 rounds. You still get quality players, but you don't have to pay them because well, what are they going to do, say no thanks? Unless they are a first half of the first round talent, they don't have much leverage.

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Yes and No. At least they should have a college degree to fall back on, and, who knows, maybe a MLB career to boot. ;)

It still sucks, degree and pro contract or not. The market value of a player with their skillset is much higher than they are getting.

[RedTeamGo!]

It is absolutely a strategy. Teams know that about five seniors a year, if that, can demand actual money for a signing bonus. Now that they have set spending caps and harsh penalties, seniors are going in the first 10 rounds that previously would have gone in rounds 10-30 because it will save teams half a million bucks to spend elsewhere by drafting two seniors in the top 10 rounds. You still get quality players, but you don't have to pay them because well, what are they going to do, say no thanks? Unless they are a first half of the first round talent, they don't have much leverage.

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It still sucks, degree and pro contract or not. The market value of a player with their skillset is much higher than they are getting.

What happens if a college senior turns down the signing bonus? Will he become available to all 30 teams? If not, I think that is what should happen. They should be allowed to become free agents.

[Gallen5862]

If a player refuses to sign then he goes back into the draft the next year and the team loses the slot money.

[RED VAN HOT]

If a player refuses to sign then he goes back into the draft the next year and the team loses the slot money.

I suspect that these seniors want to play and have few options. They can take the token bonus and start their careers, or, they can go independent ball and try to establish enough value to merit a higher contract. The latter course seems to be more of a long shot.

[dougdirt]

What happens if a college senior turns down the signing bonus? Will he become available to all 30 teams? If not, I think that is what should happen. They should be allowed to become free agents.

If guys could just become free agents by turning down their offers, everyone would do it and just go play for their favorite team/the team willing to spend the most money and destroy the entire purpose of the draft.

[RedTeamGo!]

If guys could just become free agents by turning down their offers, everyone would do it and just go play for their favorite team/the team willing to spend the most money and destroy the entire purpose of the draft.

I am saying this would only be an option for college seniors. As it stands now these players have basically 0 leverage.

[dougdirt]

I am saying this would only be an option for college seniors. As it stands now these players have basically 0 leverage.

Given the history of how the players association caring for minor leaguers or soon to be minor leaguers, I am willing to bet that they look into changing the rules for them around the same time a team takes me seriously as a GM candidate.

[Benihana]

Given the history of how the players association caring for minor leaguers or soon to be minor leaguers, I am willing to bet that they look into changing the rules for them around the same time a team takes me seriously as a GM candidate.

Why should they? Make it more of a meritocracy. Really, it's like any other glamorous industry: in the early days, you'll make peanuts. If you're really really good, and rise through the ranks, there will be (more than) a pot of gold waiting for you. Why pay a lot of money to guys that very few will pay to come see play?

[dougdirt]

Why should they? Make it more of a meritocracy. Really, it's like any other glamorous industry: in the early days, you'll make peanuts. If you're really really good, and rise through the ranks, there will be (more than) a pot of gold waiting for you. Why pay a lot of money to guys that very few will pay to come see play?

Because some of those seniors actually have good talent, better talent than they are getting paid for?

[Benihana]

Because some of those seniors actually have good talent, better talent than they are getting paid for?

If their talent is that good they'll get drafted early enough to get paid. Or if they're a really late bloomer, they'll eventually make it to the show. I'm not that sympathetic- they had at least two previous chances to get drafted, and they can still do something else for a living if they decide the money isn't worth it.

[dougdirt]

If their talent is that good they'll get drafted early enough to get paid. Or if they're a really late bloomer, they'll eventually make it to the show. I'm not that sympathetic- they had at least two previous chances to get drafted, and they can still do something else for a living if they decide the money isn't worth it.

Not really. If their talent is enough to get them drafted in say, round three, where other guys are getting $$375-500,000, they are getting $50,000 and that is for the guys who are actually worthy of being drafted there on talent. It's a power play and one that sucks. "Oh, you weren't good enough at 20 but are good enough at 21? Sucks for you, you now get 10% of what you would have gotten last year if you were this good, take it or leave your dream behind." You can be ok with that, but I'm not and think it's incredibly unfair.

[napalextus]

Many college seniors are overdrafts specifically chosen to save money to pay a player an above slot bonus. Most of these players would be low round draft picks and probably are given an equal or greater signing bonus. The old system took advantage of seniors drafted in the round their talent dictated but the new system its unclear, very few seniors have been drafted in the round their talent dictates. Mark Appel last year signed for 6.35 million which is not far off from Brady Aiken signing for 6.5 this year. A good indication will be Jake Stinnett out of Maryland, he was a second round talent drafted by the Cubs in the second round.

[Benihana]

Nm

[corkedbat]

If it wasn't for their utility as slot-savings, these guys would be chosen considerably farther down the draft. As it is, they have the bragging rights of being a Top 10 draft choice. Let them put their accounting or sports marketing or PE degree to work if it bothers them that much. Whaaa! Life sucks! Get a helmet!

[klw]

Shane Crouse @ShaneCrouse24 · Jun 13

Off to Arizona ✈️✌️⚾️
https://twitter.com/ShaneCrouse24

Shane Crouse
@ShaneCrouse24

A Pitcher in the Cincinnati Reds Orginization Baseball-Family-FLboy

Looks like he signed

[dougdirt]

If it wasn't for their utility as slot-savings, these guys would be chosen considerably farther down the draft. As it is, they have the bragging rights of being a Top 10 draft choice. Let them put their accounting or sports marketing or PE degree to work if it bothers them that much. Whaaa! Life sucks! Get a helmet!

It's always funny how when it is someone else being screwed out of money because it's something you would like to do, it's somehow ok. I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it were you or someone you knew who were being screwed out of a lot of money because they are making a power play on you. We are not talking about the guys who were going to be be 27th round picks if things were going strictly on talent. We are talking about legit 3rd round guys who are seniors and will get 10% of what the other guys get in that round.

[Nathan]

It's always funny how when it is someone else being screwed out of money because it's something you would like to do, it's somehow ok. I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it were you or someone you knew who were being screwed out of a lot of money because they are making a power play on you. We are not talking about the guys who were going to be be 27th round picks if things were going strictly on talent. We are talking about legit 3rd round guys who are seniors and will get 10% of what the other guys get in that round.

Quite frankly, I have no sympathy for them. If their true talent dictates it, they will be in the Majors at some point, where the real money is made. If not, they should have their degrees to fall back on.

(It seems this conversation comes up every year in these threads.)

[dougdirt]

Quite frankly, I have no sympathy for them. If their true talent dictates it, they will be in the Majors at some point, where the real money is made. If not, they should have their degrees to fall back on.

(It seems this conversation comes up every year in these threads.)

Again, how would you feel if you were being screwed out of the money and told you don't worry about it, if you are good enough at your job you will get paid one day? That kind of thinking is very, very backwards. Pay people what they are worth. Don't underpay them because they may make more at some point in the future.

[Benihana]

2B Forrest Wall just signed for $2.0M which was $300K over his slot. Will be interesting to see how much Blandino signs for. I really hope the Reds didn't take him over Wall to save a few hundred thousand bucks. Obviously I really liked Wall at 29 (and 19 for that matter).

[Gallen5862]

Showing both Boulware (16th) and Veras (30th) on the Billings Roster.


http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats...=t_ros&cid=513

[PepperJack]

More 2014 Draft picks have signed with the Reds, including: second baseman Shane Mardirosian (seventh round), right-handed pitcher Jacob Ehret (14th round), catcher Garrett Boulware (16th round) and right-handed pitcher Shane Crouse (24th round).

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140614&content_id=79777156&notebook_id=79753054&vkey=notebook_cin&c_id=cin

[corkedbat]

Hey. I'm in the IT industry. I've seen jobs go over sees and eat up salaries dry up over here. Did I like it? Hell no, but it was what it was. I dug harder for what I could get and waited until things came back around. If it bothered me that much I coulda bailed and found something else to do. Did I have a pitty party and whine like a little girl? No.

If these guys don't like it let'em find something to do with their brand new college degrees (if they don't have them yet, let them put those meager little bonuses to use by finishing them). So they got five or ten grand instead of fifty or 100 grand - well, boo-frickin'-hoo. At least they are getting paid to start a job before they've even hit a lick. They still were picked in the first ten rounds of the MLB draft. Let'em work hard and parlay that into millions (a chance that few in this country will have), but don't go creating a telethon for them.

Like I've already said. Life sucks - get a helmet! Words to live by.

[JaxRed]

Spreadsheet updated with latest signings

[dougdirt]

Hey. I'm in the IT industry. I've seen jobs go over sees and eat up salaries dry up over here. Did I like it? Hell no, but it was what it was. I dug harder for what I could get and waited until things came back around. If it bothered me that much I coulda bailed and found something else to do. Did I have a pitty party and whine like a little girl? No.

If these guys don't like it let'em find something to do with their brand new college degrees (if they don't have them yet, let them put those meager little bonuses to use by finishing them). So they got five or ten grand instead of fifty or 100 grand - well, boo-frickin'-hoo. At least they are getting paid to start a job before they've even hit a lick. They still were picked in the first ten rounds of the MLB draft. Let'em work hard and parlay that into millions (a chance that few in this country will have), but don't go creating a telethon for them.

Like I've already said. Life sucks - get a helmet! Words to live by.

It isn't about bailing and finding something better. If your co-worker, who doesn't have any more talent than you, were making 90% more than you because you entered the workforce a year older than he did, I promise you would not be happy about it and your answer wouldn't be "boo freaking hoo, me".

[corkedbat]

Its the system and management is going to game the system just as the players and their agents are going to try to do. Their not get paid less because they're a year older, they're getting paid less because they have no leverage. Does it suck? Yeah. Is it some kind of tragedy? No, its the system. Did these guys get picked and choose school when they were High School Seniors, College Juniors? Maybe this is a lesson in making better choices. Were they not even chosen as Juniors? Maybe they should be thankful they were drafted at all.

There are Undrafted Free Agents who end up making better money than 5th, 6th or 7th rounders. Does it suck? Ummm...mebbe. Is it a tragedy? Nope, its leverage. And life.

[napalextus]

2B Forrest Wall just signed for $2.0M which was $300K over his slot. Will be interesting to see how much Blandino signs for. I really hope the Reds didn't take him over Wall to save a few hundred thousand bucks. Obviously I really liked Wall at 29 (and 19 for that matter).

I would think his arm injury played a bigger role than money as should Howard, Blandino and Sparks sign for their slot bonus the Reds are roughly 275,000 under the limit. Though I agree, I hope money was not a mitigating factor. It ought to be interesting to follow their career paths, particularly if Blandino is unable to remain at shortstop.

[Benihana]

I would think his arm injury played a bigger role than money as should Howard, Blandino and Sparks sign for their slot bonus the Reds are roughly 275,000 under the limit. Though I agree, I hope money was not a mitigating factor. It ought to be interesting to follow their career paths, particularly if Blandino is unable to remain at shortstop.

From what I understand about Wall, the arm injury will keep him limited to 2B, but shouldn't be a factor otherwise?

[dougdirt]

From what I understand about Wall, the arm injury will keep him limited to 2B, but shouldn't be a factor otherwise?

That was my understanding as well. But still, that's a really poor arm, even at second.

[Chuckie]

Is there a concern about Mitch Trees not signing and instead playing at the U. of Louisville for free? I hope we sign this kid; seemed like excellent value in the 11th round.

[corkedbat]

Is there a concern about Mitch Trees not signing and instead playing at the U. of Louisville for free? I hope we sign this kid; seemed like excellent value in the 11th round.

He was still playing in his state tournament as of last weekend and may take a little break following his season - possibly the same for Blandino out of Stanford.

[Nathan]

When's the deadline to sign?

[wastedtime]

When's the deadline to sign?
Yeah, I've been wondering about the top 3 draft picks, too

[redsmetz]

When's the deadline to sign?

July 18th, according to MLB.com

[Gallen5862]

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?105640-2014-MLB-Draft-Reds-Picks-and-Signings

Cincinnati Reds
Draft picks signed: RHP Tejay Antone (5), RHP Zachary Correll (13), RHP Brian Hunter (9), RHP Conor Krauss (20), RHP Jose Lopez (6), RHP Tyler Parmenter (21), RHP Jake Paulson (27), LHP Brennan Bernardino (26), LHP Jacob Moody (17), LHP Ty Sterner (23), LHP Michael Sullivan (29), LHP Seth Varner (10), 1B Paul Kronenfeld (25), 1B Brian O’Grady (8), 3B Gavin LaValley (4), 3B Montrell Marshall (12), SS Josciel Veras (30), OF Jimmy Pickens (15)
Released: C Josh Kennelly, 1B Jhimmy Lopez, 1B Logan Uxa
Optioned to Triple-A: OF Donald Lutz
Placed on 7-day DL: RHP Pedro Diaz, RHP Joe Mantoni, RHP Austin Salter, RHP Mike Saunders, RHP Pedro Villarreal, LHP Sean Lucas, LHP Jordan Remer, LHP Nick Routt, 1B Mike Costanzo, 2B Sammy Diaz, 2B Robert Ramirez
Reinstated from DL: LHP David Holmberg, OF Jeff Gelalich

[PepperJack]

Mitch Trees @mitchtrees_10 · 18h
Officially a part of the Cincinnati Reds Organization! So blessed to get this opportunity. Can't wait… http://instagram.com/p/pXql9YjjGM/

[corkedbat]

Good to see! Young catching prospect with a lot of athleticism. Now, get the top three and Palacios in the folder and I'll be quite happy with this year's haul.

[napalextus]

From what I understand about Wall, the arm injury will keep him limited to 2B, but shouldn't be a factor otherwise?

My understanding is that his arm will only factor in limiting him to second, though it is still a below average arm. I meant that I think Wall's positional limitations had a bigger contribution than his signing bonus. Blandino will likely sign for slot value and could possibly play 2B,SS or 3B where as Wall signed for 212,000 over what Blandino's slot value is but is limited to 2B.

[wastedtime]

Good to see! Young catching prospect with a lot of athleticism. Now, get the top three and Palacios in the folder and I'll be quite happy with this year's haul.
I'm assuming that the delay in signing the top 3 has something to do with the CWS going on

[RED VAN HOT]

Yes. As of now, however, only Howard is still playing, so Blandino and Sparks could sign. I am a little surprised that Trees' presumably over slot deal was completed before the deals with the top three picks were concluded. Reds must have high degree of confidence in signing them at or near slot.

[PepperJack]

Jonathan Mayo @JonathanMayoB3 · 5m
1st rd @MLBDraft signing: @Reds give No. 29 pick @ablandino10 from @GoStanford full pick value bonus: $1,788,000.

[JaxRed]

Spreadsheet updated for Blandino signing.

[RedlegJake]

Assuming #1 and 3 sign as soon as their teams are done playing, the Reds should sign 27 of their top 31 picks. Pretty good.

[Edd Roush]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but the amount of the pool that is left over from picks 1-10 can be used for any amount of $100,000 for the picks Round 11 and after without penalty, right? Therefore, once we have our first and third picks signed, we can then know how much money in excess of $100,000 we can offer the studs in Round 11+, right?

[PepperJack]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but the amount of the pool that is left over from picks 1-10 can be used for any amount of $100,000 for the picks Round 11 and after without penalty, right? Therefore, once we have our first and third picks signed, we can then know how much money in excess of $100,000 we can offer the studs in Round 11+, right?

The Reds will have $275,000 left in bonus pool money, if the top two picks sign for slot. However, most of that will be used up by the over-slot bonuses that are expected for Trees, Marshall, Correll, and others.

[Gallen5862]

http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3554

First-Year Player Draft (MLB Rule 4 Draft) Signing Bonus Pool


There is a maximum limit on the aggregate amount of money that each club can pay as signing bonuses to players selected in a First-Year Player Draft (MLB Rule 4 Draft) before penalties begin to accrue.

Prior to the Rule 4 Draft, each MLB club is assigned a “Signing Bonus Pool” (SBP) equal to the aggregate pre-assigned bonus value of all of the club’s draft slots in the first ten rounds (including supplemental draft picks); the higher the slot, the higher the bonus value. (The collective MLB SBP is determined in advance by calculating industry revenues). If a club fails to sign a player selected in the first ten rounds (including supplemental draft picks), the value of that slot is deducted from the club’s SBP. There is no bonus value assigned to draft slots after the 10th round, but if a club pays a signing bonus in excess of $100,000 to a player selected in the 11th round or later or to a player eligible for selection who was not drafted, the amount of that bonus in excess of $100,000 is deducted from the club’s SBP.

http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3554

If a club exceeds its SBP in a given Rule 4 Draft, a tax will be assessed and future Rule 4 Draft picks could be forfeited, depending on how much the club exceeded its SBP. (The club’s 1st Round draft pick in the next Rule 4 Draft is forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by 5-10%, its 1st & 2nd round draft picks in the next Rule 4 Draft are forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by 10-15%, and the club’s 1st Round picks in the next two Rule 4 Drafts are forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by more than 15%).

Money collected from the tax on clubs that exceed their SBP will be distributed to qualifying clubs as Revenue Sharing funds, and forfeited draft picks will be reassigned by lottery. (Any club that exceeds its SBP is excluded from the lottery).

[Benihana]

Trees showing up on AZL roster now.

Marshall listed as a SS on the roster and I've noticed has yet to play. Any color?

[dougdirt]

Marshall listed as a SS on the roster and I've noticed has yet to play. Any color?

Listed on the DL.

[Benihana]

Anyone heard anything on Sparks? Wonder what's taking so long, he doesn't need to be resting his arm.

Also any word on where Blandino is headed? I'm hoping for Dayton (2B)

[PepperJack]

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 1h
... Mitch Trees (@Reds 11th) $300k, Erik Manoah (@Mets 13th) $300k, Gabriel Llanes (@Mets 15th) $300k ... @MLBDraft


im Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 1h
... Scott Williams (@Rangers 11th) $250k, Montrell Marshall (@Reds 12th) $225k, Weston Davis (@Nationals 11th) $200k ... @MLBDraft

That's an extra $325,000 over right there of slot money.

[RED VAN HOT]

Anyone heard anything on Sparks? Wonder what's taking so long, he doesn't need to be resting his arm.

Also any word on where Blandino is headed? I'm hoping for Dayton (2B)

Blandino starting at SS for Billings tonight.

[fearofpopvol1]

That's an extra $325,000 over right there of slot money.

I wonder if this means that Palacios is a long shot. He was the 1 other guy I really hoped had signed, but I'm just not sure if the money is there. I guess it will depend greatly on what Sparks takes as I don't see Howard taking less than slot based on what Blandino is getting.

[Benihana]

I wonder if Nick Howard will want to take some time off from the game after being the goat of the CWS last night. Came in in the 8th and gave up the game-winning HR to a guy who only had 2 HR on the year.

[RedTeamGo!]

I wonder if Nick Howard will want to take some time off from the game after being the goat of the CWS last night. Came in in the 8th and gave up the game-winning HR to a guy who only had 2 HR on the year.

Haha - I was watching it and couldn't help but think to myself "great pick, buckley, great freaking pick."

Then I had to remember he had not given up a run in the CWS in 4 appearances before that.

That was sad though, I always feel really bad for players that are so clearly the goat in big games like that.

[Boston Red]

It was a 97 mph fastball that wasn't even a strike. I don't think Howard was really a goat. Basically, you just tip your cap to Norwood there.

[RedTeamGo!]

Agreed, but it was the pitch that lost the college world series for his team and school. Even if he was not the goat, I am sure he feels like one.

[RED VAN HOT]

I wonder if Nick Howard will want to take some time off from the game after being the goat of the CWS last night. Came in in the 8th and gave up the game-winning HR to a guy who only had 2 HR on the year.

Of course I can't speak for him, but I would want to get right back out there as soon as I could.

[Benihana]

What is the story with Sparks? How many 2nd round picks remain unsigned?

[redsmetz]

What is the story with Sparks? How many 2nd round picks remain unsigned?

There are just three left unsigned. Sparks for us and the players drafted by the Giants and Nationals.

http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/6/9/5793788/2014-mlb-draft-draft-signings-tracker

BTW, there are eight players from the 1st round who remain unsigned. Two just finished the CWS, Howard and the Giants pick who pitched for Vandy.

[Chuckie]

Sparks will sign. No chance he will give up a $1 million signing bonus to go play for free as a senior at UC-Irvine. There is a better chance of me playing for the Reds this year than there is of Sparks not signing.

[PepperJack]

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS · 8m
Taylor Sparks, 2nd rounder, has a deal with #reds. the UC-I 3B, a top defender & pick No. 58 overall, agrees for $972,800.

[Gallen5862]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Reds Sign Second-Rounder Taylor Sparks

By Jeff Todd [June 30, 2014 at 10:08pm CDT]

The Reds have agreed to a $972.8K bonus with second-round (58th overall) choice Taylor Sparks, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter). That represents the assigned value of the pick.

Sparks is a third baseman out of UC Irvine. He was the 56th overall prospect in the view of MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo and Jim Callis, who write that he is strong, athletic, and delivers hard contact at the plate. He is expected to develop some power and be able to stick at the hot corner. ESPN.com’s Keith Law rated him at the 72nd spot, while Baseball America had him as the 87th best player available.

According to the MLB.com signings tracker, Cincinnati has now locked up all of its picks from the first ten rounds with the exception of its first selection (19th overall): Nick Howard, the University of Virginia closer, who just completed play at the College World Series.

[Benihana]

Howard signed too. Underslot deal

[Gallen5862]

How much did Howard sign for?

[PepperJack]

Retweeted by Mark Sheldon
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB · 2m
In addition to landing 2nd-rder Taylor Sparks for $972,800 (h/t @JonHeymanCBS), @Reds agree w/1st-rder Nick Howard on $1,990,500. @MLBDraft

[Gallen5862]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Reds To Sign First-Rounder Nick Howard

By Jeff Todd [June 30, 2014 at 10:24pm CDT]

The Reds have agreed with first-round choice Nick Howard on a $1,990,500 bonus, reports Jim Callis of MLB.com (Twitter link). That falls just $100K shy of the slot allocation that came with the 19th overall pick.

Howard, a closer in his last season at the University of Virginia, is expected to be given a chance to transition into back into a starting role in the Reds organization. He has two strong offerings: a mid-to-high 90s heater and often-devastating slider. On the back of those pitches, Baseball America (25th) and MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo and Jim Callis (31st) saw Howard as one of the best arms available.

Howard becomes the last of the team’s choices from the first ten rounds to sign.

[nate1213]

Reds signed Nick Howard as well tonight.

[dougdirt]

And with $50,000 to spare. It's like the Reds planned it all out or something.

[Benihana]

Both Howard and Sparks headed to Billings? I hope Howard goes to Dayton.

[dougdirt]

Both Howard and Sparks headed to Billings? I hope Howard goes to Dayton.

I wouldn't bet on it.

[Gallen5862]

Who else should the Reds try to sign with the remaining pool money?

[Tom Servo]

Who else should the Reds try to sign with the remaining pool money?
Me.

[Benihana]

Who else should the Reds try to sign with the remaining pool money?

Palacios

[fearofpopvol1]

Palacios

Agreed, obviously.

So how much do the Reds have to throw at him??

[Edd Roush]

Agreed, obviously.

So how much do the Reds have to throw at him??

Is it 150? What would be the Reds' punishment if they went over 150k?

[wastedtime]

Is it 150? What would be the Reds' punishment if they went over 150k?They have 50 left

[Edd Roush]

They have 50 left

But the Reds can go up to 100k for any non-top 10 round guy, so they could throw him 150k and be within the budget, correct?

[fearofpopvol1]

But the Reds can go up to 100k for any non-top 10 round guy, so they could throw him 150k and be within the budget, correct?

Yeah this is what I was wondering too.

[Plus Plus]

I believe that they can also go over their total pool by something like 5% without having a penalty as well. I am on a lunch break at work, or else I would look to verify that. Maybe someone else has better knowledge...

[New Fever]

The Reds have $498,670.00 left before they would have a draft pick penalty. So they can give any pick after the 11th round that money plus the 100,000 limit.

[fearofpopvol1]

The Reds have $498,670.00 left before they would have a draft pick penalty. So they can give any pick after the 11th round that money plus the 100,000 limit.

Awesome. I would think that would be enough to get Palacios. Let's get it done Walt!

[camisadelgolf]

If the Reds exceed their allotment by more than 5%, they lose next year's first round pick, but anything from 0-5% results in a 75% tax penalty. Details are here (http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/6/5/5781090/2014-mlb-draft-rules-regulations-guide-basics).

[Benihana]

While I'd be happy with Palacios, I might rather see them spend $500K on one of the better amateur international SS.

Specifically, Gonzalez, Hernandez, Aracena and Torres - all guys who appear in the BA top 20 and haven't been clearly linked to other teams (that I've seen).

[Edd Roush]

While I'd be happy with Palacios, I might rather see them spend $500K on one of the better amateur international SS.

Specifically, Garcia, Gamboa, Gonzalez and/or Hernandez - all guys who appear in the BA top 15 and haven't been clearly linked to other teams.

Wouldn't the amateur, international SSs come from a different pool of money (the international pool)? Are these pools interrelated?

[Edd Roush]

Awesome. I would think that would be enough to get Palacios. Let's get it done Walt!

Bynum seems like a good target, too. I hope the Reds offer them each $125,000 which would be the maximum we could offer without paying a tax. If they both sign, we are right at the pool. If neither of them bite, I would hope the Reds continually offer a bit more, even if it means the Reds are subject to a little bit of tax.

[Benihana]

Wouldn't the amateur, international SSs come from a different pool of money (the international pool)? Are these pools interrelated?

They are in that they come from the same ultimate source. They don't in that there are different caps and penalties in place. How the Reds think about the two, I have no idea. I'm just suggesting if they have an extra $500K-$1M in their pocket to spend on acquiring amateur talent in the next month, I'd prefer: 1. it be spent and 2. it be spent on high upside middle infield prospects.

[fearofpopvol1]

Wouldn't the amateur, international SSs come from a different pool of money (the international pool)? Are these pools interrelated?

I think this is correct...in that it's a different pool. In some ways it doesn't make sense, but that has been my understanding as well.

[Edd Roush]

They are in that they come from the same ultimate source. They don't in that there are different caps and penalties in place. How the Reds think about the two, I have no idea. I'm just suggesting if they have an extra $500K-$1M in their pocket to spend on acquiring amateur talent in the next month, I'd prefer: 1. it be spent and 2. it be spent on high upside middle infield prospects.

OK. That makes sense. I would strongly prefer the Reds spend most of their available funds on prospects, rather than replacement level talent in the major leagues. I would hope there is money for the Reds to sign both high upside international talent and the two remaining BA Top 500 players that they drafted.

[fearofpopvol1]

I hope I'm not alarming anyone by posting in this thread, but with just 4 days left, do we think Palacios or anyone else for that matter will still be signed?

[redsof72]

Kish, the 34th rounder, signed this week.

[Gallen5862]

Any word on the bonus that Kennan Kish got?

[RED VAN HOT]

Maybe the better question is 'how's his health?' He missed much of the 2013 season and all of 2014 following hip surgery. Further, he is 24 years old. Seems like a long shot at this point. If he received a bonus, I would be surprised. Still, he is the kind of story I tend to pull for.

[fearofpopvol1]

Are there any other signings or was that it?

[redsmetz]

Maybe the better question is 'how's his health?' He missed much of the 2013 season and all of 2014 following hip surgery. Further, he is 24 years old. Seems like a long shot at this point. If he received a bonus, I would be surprised. Still, he is the kind of story I tend to pull for.

I came across Kennan Kish's name yesterday when we were talking about another prospect from last year's draft. Looking at Baseball-Reference.com, it seems he didn't play (which isn't surprising) last year even though he signed. Any word on what is going on with him. I saw mention in February, 2014 that he needed Tommy John surgery and was ending his baseball career, staying on at Florida as a student manager. Of course, we drafted him in June. I assume he had the surgery. Anyone heard anything more about him since?

[camisadelgolf]

I came across Kennan Kish's name yesterday when we were talking about another prospect from last year's draft. Looking at Baseball-Reference.com, it seems he didn't play (which isn't surprising) last year even though he signed. Any word on what is going on with him. I saw mention in February, 2014 that he needed Tommy John surgery and was ending his baseball career, staying on at Florida as a student manager. Of course, we drafted him in June. I assume he had the surgery. Anyone heard anything more about him since?
I don't know if this answers your question seeing as how it was reported in February, 2014.
https://twitter.com/CJonesScout/status/435169262307913728

Quick confirmation on Keenan Kish: his Florida baseball career is over. If a professional opportunity presents itself, he'd give it a shot.

[redsmetz]

I don't know if this answers your question seeing as how it was reported in February, 2014.
https://twitter.com/CJonesScout/status/435169262307913728

I had seen that. I ended up tweeting Jamie Ramsey and he said that Kish is still rehabbing, although he didn't say when he'd be ready to start throwing again. This was a late round draft pick and he was the furthest down draftee to sign with the club. I'm guessing the Reds feel like he was worth a shot and there might be some hope that he can come back from the surgery. It will be interesting to see. I didn't notice about where he rated prior to his injury.