6/7/2014 Reds v. Phillies

[NebraskaRed]

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Has anyone filled a missing persons report on Lutz?

[Ironman92]

Can anyone explain Bruce batting clean up while our best offensive player bats 6th?

[PepperJack]

Price from last night's game recap.


"We've had our team meeting, we've had our dugout chat, we've had that stuff, what I think we need to do is to go out there and play better baseball," Price said. "I realistically feel if you have to go out there and constantly motivate the players to play the game well, you've got the wrong players. I don't feel like we do. I feel like we have good players, I have not lost confidence in the dynamics of our lineup or our ability to do things. We definitely stronger performances and we need some guys to step up and perform to their level, if not we're going to be playing really low-scoring games or in this case, when games get away from us, not have the ability to fight back."

He said the PC stuff after the portion I bolded, but sounds like Price has had enough with some of these guys.

[toledodan]

Yay more of the dynamic due of cozart and Santiago.

[Kiko]

I don't think the Reds have any leaders on this team. It needs to be an everyday player and not someone like Schumaker. Price is doing the right thing by showing he still has confidence in this team but if they continue to struggle then you could see some major changes in the off season.

[Ironman92]

I think they'll beat Fausto

[CySeymour]

Can anyone explain Bruce batting clean up while our best offensive player bats 6th?

I'd like to know the same.

[JaxRed]

Mez has cooled off. Last 7 games he's hitting .125

[Ironman92]

Mez has cooled off. Last 7 games he's hitting .125

Yeah....but also several line drive outs and deep just misses. He doesn't look lost, off or overwhelmed....Bruce and others do a lot

[Ironman92]

Shelby Miller is no-hitting the Blue Jays thru 5.....he'll easily finish it off.

[Ironman92]

Ha ha

[Kc61]

Against a righty Price cannot take Bruce out of the clean up spot. Until Votto comes back, then he can do so to "break up the lefties" if Votto hits third. But now, he can't.

It would be a huge vote of non-confidence to take Bruce out of the clean up spot against a righty. Bruce is coming back from injury, he hasn't done well, but there are some things you just don't do.

What I don't favor today is playing Santiago at third and Frazier at first.

If you want Santiago to get a couple of games, rest Cozart.

If you want to rest Pena at first base, play Lutz against a righty. Play him at first.

Frazier at first, Santiago at third hasn't looked good defensively, no reason to keep pushing that button IMO.

[Kiko]

Against a righty Price cannot take Bruce out of the clean up spot. Until Votto comes back, then he can do so to "break up the lefties" if Votto hits third. But now, he can't.

It would be a huge vote of non-confidence to take Bruce out of the clean up spot against a righty. Bruce is coming back from injury, he hasn't done well, but there are some things you just don't do.

What I don't favor today is playing Santiago at third and Frazier at first.

If you want Santiago to get a couple of games, rest Cozart.

If you want to rest Pena at first base, play Lutz against a righty. Play him at first.

Frazier at first, Santiago at third hasn't looked good defensively, no reason to keep pushing that button IMO.

I don't have an issue with Santiago playing today. He has faced Hernandez a lot and has done fairly well against him. I agree with you on putting Santiago at SS and playing Lutz at 1B. Would like to know the reasoning behind it.

[davereds24]

Don't you guys know that Cozart is dating Price's daughter?

[757690]

Price from last night's game recap.



He said the PC stuff after the portion I bolded, but sounds like Price has had enough with some of these guys.

I agree the team has the wrong players. But mostly because too many of the right players are on the DL.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

I don't think the Reds have any leaders on this team. It needs to be an everyday player and not someone like Schumaker. Price is doing the right thing by showing he still has confidence in this team but if they continue to struggle then you could see some major changes in the off season.

:laugh:

Have you forgot who the Reds GM is?

[Ironman92]

Against a righty Price cannot take Bruce out of the clean up spot. Until Votto comes back, then he can do so to "break up the lefties" if Votto hits third. But now, he can't.

It would be a huge vote of non-confidence to take Bruce out of the clean up spot against a righty. Bruce is coming back from injury, he hasn't done well, but there are some things you just don't do.

What I don't favor today is playing Santiago at third and Frazier at first.

If you want Santiago to get a couple of games, rest Cozart.

If you want to rest Pena at first base, play Lutz against a righty. Play him at first.

Frazier at first, Santiago at third hasn't looked good defensively, no reason to keep pushing that button IMO.

If Bruce needs the manager's confidence to get going......

I'm really sick of the Reds managers going out of their way to keep the big guys happy. Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings. God forbid Price not bat Bruce 4th against a righty. Lol

Wonder if Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier and Carl Crawford feel sorry for him.

[SlimJim11]

I don't have an issue with Santiago playing today. He has faced Hernandez a lot and has done fairly well against him.

He has a .685 OPS against Hernandez. I guess that counts as doing well for this team.

[Ironman92]

OPS vs righties

Mesoraco 1.090
Frazier .790
Phillips .714
Bruce .690

The only 4 I looked up

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins lines out to Phillips

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz grounds out to 3rd

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley grounded out to 2nd. 0-0 mid 1st

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk for Hamilton

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Steal #23 for Hamilton

[Magdal]

As my ex hubby used to say: It's fun to be fast.

[Tom Servo]

"This is not going to do it"

*Hamilton advances to third

[Reds Fanatic]

Schumaker grounds out to short and Hamilton gets to 3rd. 1 out

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Phillips is hit by the pitch

[PepperJack]

As my ex hubby used to say: It's fun to be fast.

:laugh:

[Magdal]

BP did not even glance toward the mound....he's pissed.

[Ironman92]

Rollins lines out to Phillips

Did that anger the Phillies?

[Reds Fanatic]

A run! Bruce sac fly to left. 1-0 Reds

[Tom Servo]

Yay, a run.

[Magdal]

What a stat line for Bruce! I had no idea. He's getting no mention from ESPN that I've noticed.

[toledodan]

Drug test!

[Norm Chortleton]

7292

[50YrRedsFan]

A run! Bruce sac fly to left. 1-0 Reds

What is a run?:)

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco strikes out looking. 1-0 Reds after 1

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds with a run on NO hits.

[Ironman92]

So....how much are we reliant on Billy? He got to 3rd with 1 out for no other reason other than uber elite speed.....no hits but scored a run. Bruce going oppo for the sac is something I wish he's do versus lefties.

[RedsBrick]

First to third on a groundout = awesomeness.

[Magdal]

Reds with a run on NO hits.
Now that's efficiency. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard beats the shift with a single to left

[Tom Servo]

There goes the lead.

[RedsBrick]

The shift sucks...except when it doesn't.

[Reds Fanatic]

That lead did not last long. Byrd homers to the first row in left. 2-1 Phils

[JMO]

HAHA, they are awful

[toledodan]

The curse of the Byrd continues thanks Walt

[Reds Fanatic]

Brown grounds out to short

[50YrRedsFan]

A GABP HR for Byrd.

[Ironman92]

The curse of the Byrd continues thanks Walt

Yep

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez grounds out to 1st

[Magdal]

Howard beats the shift with a single to left

This whole league has gone shift and double-switch happy. I don't like it.

[Red Raindog]

Shelby Miller is no-hitting the Blue Jays thru 5.....he'll easily finish it off.

reverse jinx attempt?

[Reds Fanatic]

Revere grounds out to 2nd. 2-1 Phillies mid 2nd

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Every time Marlon Byrd homers off the reds, I picture sleepy Walt cringing. And that thought is mildly enjoyable.

[757690]

The curse of the Byrd continues thanks Walt

Never forgive Walt not at least blocking the Pirates from getting Byrd.

[Magdal]

reverse jinx attempt? I don't think so. That game was over a half an hour ago.

[Tom Servo]

Frazier! :jump:

[Ironman92]

Hmmm

[WrongVerb]

No doubt on that one! Way to go Frazier!

[Magdal]

Tit for tat. This may turn out to be a helluve game! :beerme:

[Ironman92]

reverse jinx attempt?

Oh....absolutely

[Tom Servo]

The curse of the Byrd continues thanks Walt


Every time Marlon Byrd homers off the reds, I picture sleepy Walt cringing. And that thought is mildly enjoyable.


Totally agreed boyos. This friggin idiot Jocketty putting together consistent winning teams for a franchise with a history of underachieving. What a sleepy moron. Oh and fire Dusty!

[Reds Fanatic]

Homer #13 for Frazier

Cozart grounds out to the pitcher

[toledodan]

Love that #6 hitter

[50YrRedsFan]

Never forgive Walt not at least blocking the Pirates from getting Byrd.

Phillies are 9 games under .500. Could Byrd be a target to try to get? He is signed thru 2015. Around $8-9 mil p/y

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago walks

[Reds Fanatic]

Simon sacrifices the runner to 2nd

[Ironman92]

Phillies are 9 games under .500. Could Byrd be a target to try to get? He is signed thru 2015. Around $8-9 mil p/y

No...his arms are too long and he has range in the OF

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton grounds out to the pitcher. 2-2 after 2

[Tom Servo]

48 pitches after 2 for Carmona/Hernandez.

[Ironman92]

2-2 count....runner on 2nd, 2 outs...2nd inning

[Ironman92]

In the 29th round the Yankees just selected Mariano Rivera

I'm not making that up

[toledodan]

Phillies are 9 games under .500. Could Byrd be a target to try to get? He is signed thru 2015. Around $8-9 mil p/y

Walt will say "we like our team"

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez strikes out looking

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins flies out to center

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz flies out to left. 2-2 mid 3rd

[757690]

Phillies are 9 games under .500. Could Byrd be a target to try to get? He is signed thru 2015. Around $8-9 mil p/y

He's the type of player I think the team needs. Not sure he's the best option out there, though.

[WrongVerb]

Four pitches.
Two outs.
No patience.

[Reds Fanatic]

2 out walk to Bruce

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce with his 7th steal of the year

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco pops out to 2nd. 2-2 after 3

[Kc61]

Mesoraco pops out to 2nd. 2-2 after 3

Mesoraco impatient there. Needs to settle down, he wasn't going to hit .400. He can still do well, but he can't start pressing becomes his numbers declined, this was going to happen.

[Ironman92]

Mesoraco impatient there. Needs to settle down, he wasn't going to hit .400. He can still do well, but he can't start pressing becomes his numbers declined, this was going to happen.

Has he ever been patient?

[Ironman92]

Bruce with his 1st walk since May 1st

[50YrRedsFan]

Simon's split finger pitch moves a lot.

[Red Raindog]

Todd needs a lot of work in the finer points of 1B -- or for Lutz to be there

[Ironman92]

Todd needs a lot of work in the finer points of 1B -- or for Lutz to be there

Just keep him on 3rd

Though GG Votto often doesn't stretch towards the ball on those plays

[WrongVerb]

There is NO way that Frazier shouldn't be starting at 3b in the All-Star game

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart doubles in a run. 3-2 Reds!

[Tom Servo]

3-2 Redlegs!

[toledodan]

People may not like the reds being aggressive on the baseboard but when smart it's huge.

[WrongVerb]

Cozart with a run-scoring double.

Wait, what?

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago singles to left. 1st and 3rd.

[toledodan]

There is NO way that Frazier shouldn't be starting at 3b in the All-Star game

But he's our first baseman :)

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Thom just called Santiago hernandez lol

[Tony Cloninger]

I am sorry but is this Phillis pitcher a LHP? IF not why would you not finally give Lutz a start.

His excuses for not doing so....is that every time he thinks about it a LHP is on the mound.....then he does not want to move a hot hitter??? Out of the lineup.

He CAN Play LF. That is what he was playing in the minors more these last 2 years. He is not slow or Gomes like out there.

Either try him in LF or 1B but give him some playing time. Are the reports from the scouts that bad on him?

He no doubt is optioned once Votto comes back but Roger gets to stay. Awesome!

[WrongVerb]

Bad idea to squeeze here. Safety bunt to get Santiago to 2nd only.

[Reds Fanatic]

Simon bunts the runner to 2nd. 2nd and 3rd

[Big Klu]

Thom,

There is even a Bridgeport in Ohio. Bridgeport, OH is on the Ohio River, just across the river from Wheeling, WV, and is the hometown of John Havlicek and the Niekro brothers.

[Tony Cloninger]

People may not like the reds being aggressive on the baseboard but when smart it's huge.

It is rarer that it backfires......so I prefer it is done with the faster smarter base runners on this team ...not everybody like Pena or Ludwick.

[WrongVerb]

But he's our first baseman :)

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Thom just called Santiago hernandez lol

Yeah I thought I mis-heard that. Guess not.

And the Reds did just what I said they should do. This does not bode well. LOL

[Reds Fanatic]

Thom,

There is even a Bridgeport in Ohio. Bridgeport, OH is on the Ohio River, just across the river from Wheeling, WV, and is the hometown of John Havlicek and the Niekro brothers.

Thom has a hard time even identifying players. He just called Santiago Hernandez

[Tom Servo]

4-2 Redlegs!

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton sac fly. 4-2 Reds

[WrongVerb]

Hamilton hits the ball in the air. This time it's a good thing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Schumaker strikes out. 4-2 Reds after 3

[RedsBrick]

Remember that time, back in February, when Hamilton was the biggest concern for this team?

[toledodan]

Remember that time, back in February, when Hamilton was the biggest concern for this team?

If we only knew lol

[Tom Servo]

Thom has a hard time even identifying players. He just called Santiago Hernandez
I think he just called Cesar Hernandez 'Carlos Hernandez'.

[toledodan]

Welch said team doctor thought votto could play through injury. Time to dig up the thread :)

[WrongVerb]

If we only knew lol

Noting your sig: I've got 11 of my own, and you're right, there's nothing like a 300 game. Except an 800 series (of which I have 3).

[Reds Fanatic]

Brown and Hernandez single.

[Tom Servo]

C'mon Simon.

[Reds Fanatic]

Revere bunts the runners over to 2nd and 3rd

[Tom Servo]

Santiago screwed up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago did mess that play up. Mesoraco would have went to 3rd but Santiago was in covering the bunt

[Red Raindog]

3 Base bonehead move there

[Tony Cloninger]

Simon is reaching his innings limit. Basically he has pitched as many innings this year as he has in the last 2 years. Moving forward.......they really need to watch him and not keep thinking that he has more in the tank than he does.

[toledodan]

Noting your sig: I've got 11 of my own, and you're right, there's nothing like a 300 game. Except an 800 series (of which I have 3).

Yeah I only have 2 800's but 21 sets over 790 ugh....

[Reds Fanatic]

Simon is reaching his innings limit. Basically he has pitched as many innings this year as he has in the last 2 years. Moving forward.......they really need to watch him and not keep thinking that he has more in the tank than he does.

He should be back in the bullpen this time next week as Latos should be ready next weekend

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Hernandez strikes out swinging. 3 Ks

[RedsBrick]

Nice K, Simon...now close the door!

[toledodan]

Big strikeout

[WrongVerb]

John Mayberry (from Stanford, alma mater of 2014 1st round pick Alex Blandino) batting for Hernandez(Carmona). Strikes out.

[Tom Servo]

Good job Fredo.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins flies out to center. 4-2 Reds mid 5th

[toledodan]

Good job Simon and Hamilton calling off cozart

[RedsBrick]

Yeah I only have 2 800's but 21 sets over 790 ugh....

Note to self: do NOT go bowling with anyone named Dan...and certainly don't bet if you do!

[Tony Cloninger]

Price and his need for Santiago at anywhere Other than SS....is really just annoying.

[WrongVerb]

Yeah I only have 2 800's but 21 sets over 790 ugh....

Final week of winter league a few weeks ago I started out 279-289 (20 strikes in a row). Then shot 184. UGH! Have to admit, though...I had 5 300s before my first 299 game. I figure you get that close you gotta make the most of it.

[Tony Cloninger]

He should be back in the bullpen this time next week as Latos should be ready next weekend

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Hernandez strikes out swinging. 3 Ks


True......and he will probably be the long man/swing man out of the bullpen.

[757690]

Welch said team doctor thought votto could play through injury. Time to dig up the thread :)

Ahem... Ahem

[Reds Fanatic]

Ethan Martin in to pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk for Phillips

[Kc61]

When Latos comes back there's really no good answer. Simon IMO is more effective as a starter than a reliever. He isn't a huge bat misser, he won't come in and K the side, but he knows how to nurse himself through six or seven effective innings.

Cingrani threw well last time, he's still recovering from injuries IMO, and he just ran out of gas. He's a starter of the future for the Reds and I'm not thrilled for him to go to the pen.

Reds clearly have the depth to trade a starting pitcher for offense.

[toledodan]

Final week of winter league a few weeks ago I started out 279-289 (20 strikes in a row). Then shot 184. UGH! Have to admit, though...I had 5 300s before my first 299 game. I figure you get that close you gotta make the most of it.

That's cool. I choke alot early in my career. Had 296 and 2 297's before I shot my first 300 about 19 years ago.

[Kc61]

That's cool. I choke alot early in my career. Had 296 and 2 297's before I shot my first 300 about 19 years ago.

Pretty impressive. There is some talent in the Reds' system after all, LOL.

[50YrRedsFan]

True......and he will probably be the long man/swing man out of the bullpen.

I'm starting to think Cingrani should go to the pen. It's been rare when he goes more than 5 innings. Simon has had several games where he has gone 7. It's nice to have a lefty in the rotation, but Cingrani hasn't been that effective. Has had trouble throwing off speed pitches. Make him the long man.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce homers to right center!! 6-2 Reds

[Tom Servo]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuce! :jump:

[toledodan]

Bruce!!!!!

[WrongVerb]

Jay hit the SH**********T out of THAT ball! Wow!

[Tadasimha]

Oh yeah!

Be REALLY nice if Bruce were to go on one of his month long homer tears!

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce's 100th career homer at GABP

[Tom Servo]

Rocco works a walk, always good to see.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco walks. Reds have drawn 5 walks today. They are lucky to draw that most weeks

[Larkin Fan]

Bruce sucks. Trade him for a sack of used baseballs!

[Kc61]

LOL, Simon could wind up on the All Star team if he keeps piling up the wins. If he has, say, 11 wins by the All Star game how does he not make it.

But he'll probably be piling up those Holds instead.

[RedsBrick]

5 hits, 6 runs...rather efficient day so far.

[toledodan]

Pretty impressive. There is some talent in the Reds' system after all, LOL.

Thanks lol. Brandon Phillips has 3 perfect games maybe we can get some side gambling action going. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier strikes out swinging

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart pops out to 2nd

[Kc61]

So who gets sent down when Latos comes back in about a week?

Before you say Ondrusek, the Reds seem to like him as an innings filler. Sean Marshall? Threw better last time, veteran, can they legitimately DL him?

Go with 13 pitchers? Don't laugh, given some of these hitters it might make sense.

Two outs for the Reds in the fifth. 6-2 ballgame, Reds.

[WrongVerb]

That's cool. I choke alot early in my career. Had 296 and 2 297's before I shot my first 300 about 19 years ago.

I bowled as a youth in Dayton. Moved out of state and stopped for years. When I came back after 15 years in 2005 the game was totally different. Took me until 2008 to get my first one. Actually had 2 in the same set when I got my first 800 and all-time high series: 300-236-300-836.

What's kinda cool is relating (relatively speaking...we are talking bowling on house shots after all) my own experiences with the sport to how the Reds players are in the course of their careers. You kinda get how difficult it is, game of inches, etc., as well as the psychology of the game and all that. Very interesting perspective.

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago lines out to left. 6-2 Reds after 5

[WrongVerb]

Thanks lol. Brandon Phillips has 3 perfect games maybe we can get some side gambling action going. :)

I'm game!

I'll be bowling the Hoinke (at Western Bowl in Cinci for those who don't know) in August. Just sayin' :)

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Jay Bruce - 168
13. Brandon Phillips - 164
14. Joey Votto - 163
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz homers to left. 6-3 Reds

[50YrRedsFan]

So who gets sent down when Latos comes back in about a week?

Before you say Ondrusek, the Reds seem to like him as an innings filler. Sean Marshall? Threw better last time, veteran, can they legitimately DL him?

Go with 13 pitchers? Don't laugh, given some of these hitters it might make sense.


I'd send Bernadina down, although I'm sure the Reds will send Lutz down. It won't be a pitcher.

Two outs for the Reds in the fifth. 6-2 ballgame, Reds.

[757690]

So who gets sent down when Latos comes back in about a week?

Before you say Ondrusek, the Reds seem to like him as an innings filler. Sean Marshall? Threw better last time, veteran, can they legitimately DL him?

Go with 13 pitchers? Don't laugh, given some of these hitters it might make sense.

Two outs for the Reds in the fifth. 6-2 ballgame, Reds.

Ondrusek is the easy answer. With Hoover and Simon, you have guys who eat up innings and pitch better.

[Reds Fanatic]

So who gets sent down when Latos comes back in about a week?

Before you say Ondrusek, the Reds seem to like him as an innings filler. Sean Marshall? Threw better last time, veteran, can they legitimately DL him?

Go with 13 pitchers? Don't laugh, given some of these hitters it might make sense.

Two outs for the Reds in the fifth. 6-2 ballgame, Reds.

Ondrusek would be most likely. Though an interesting possibility if you moved Cingrani to the bullpen you could replace Parra or Marshall who have both stuggled

[toledodan]

I'm game!

I'll be bowling the Hoinke (at Western Bowl in Cinci for bowling who don't know) in August. Just sayin' :)

Unfortunately I have muscular dystrophy and no longer bowl but wish I could. Use to love bowling sweepers and heavy pins on Monday night's years ago. Great place western bowl.

[WrongVerb]

Ruiz nearly took Simon deep his last time up.

Two straight hard hit balls now.

Simon up first in the bottom of the 6th. Do the Reds PH for him?

[WrongVerb]

Ondrusek would be most likely. Though an interesting possibility if you moved Cingrani to the bullpen you could replace Parra or Marshall who have both stuggled

Could Marshall go to the DL?

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Unfortunately I have muscular dystrophy and no longer bowl but wish I could. Use to love bowling sweepers and heavy pins on Monday night's years ago. Great place western bowl.

Man, sorry to hear that. Can't imagine how frustrating that has to be.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz nearly took Simon deep his last time up.

Two straight hard hit balls now.

Simon up first in the bottom of the 6th. Do the Reds PH for him?

I would he is already in the upper 80s on his pitch count

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Howard singles

Byrd grounds into a 5-4 FC

[Reds Fanatic]

Brown doubles to right center and the runner is thrown out at the plate. Perfect relay throw from Bruce to Phillips to Mesoraco who takes the hit at the plate

[WrongVerb]

As Marty likes to say, he was out from here to there.

[Reds Fanatic]

Replay now as they checking if Mesoraco blocked the plate the wrong way

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I understand why they came up with this rule but I really hate it

[WrongVerb]

I'm with the announcers. I'll be stunned if they reverse this. Mez moved to field the ball, which is allowed in the rule.

[Reds Fanatic]

The call stands. The runner is out

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Sandberg gets tossed from the game

[Larkin Fan]

Ryno. You're outta here!

[toledodan]

Sandberg gets tossed. I could see why he's angry but I think the call is correct.

[WrongVerb]

That umpire was like "get back in the dugout! get back in the dugout! OK, I GOTTA throw you out of the game! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!"

As an aside, is it me, or does Sandberg look exactly the same as he did when he was playing?

[Reds Fanatic]

Bernadina pinch hitting

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Simon today: 6IP, 7H, 3ER, 0BB, 3K

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Bernadina strikes out swinging

[WrongVerb]

I would he is already in the upper 80s on his pitch count

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Howard singles

Byrd grounds into a 5-4 FC

Yep. Bernadina in.

[Red Raindog]

Bernadina pinch hitting

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Simon today: 6IP, 7H, 3ER, 0BB, 3K

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Bernadina strikes out swinging

He still looks like a baseball player ---- sigh

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton bunts and is thrown out by Ruiz

[WrongVerb]

Bernadina pinch hitting

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Simon today: 6IP, 7H, 3ER, 0BB, 3K

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Bernadina strikes out swinging

I'm streaming and apparently about 2 pitches behind you guys. But it was inevitable with 2 strikes. The Reds' bench sucks.

[50YrRedsFan]

Bernadina pinch hitting

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Simon today: 6IP, 7H, 3ER, 0BB, 3K


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Bernadina strikes out swinging

Why won't Price give Lutz a chance?

[Big Klu]

The more I see of this replay system, the less I like it. Everybody seems to be frustrated by it, and even when a call goes in your favor, you feel a sense of relief, almost like you got away with something.

Honestly, I think it was better when the umpires had the autonomy to make final decisions.

[Reds Fanatic]

Why won't Price give Lutz a chance?

I don't get it. I hate seeing young players brought up here to just sit. Especially like these last two days moving Frazier to 1st and Santiago to 3rd. Keep Frazier at 3rd and let Lutz have some starts

[malcontent]

Why won't Price give Lutz a chance?
He won't allow Votto to be Lutz'd on his watch.

[Red Raindog]

I don't get it. I hate seeing young players brought up here to just sit. Especially like these last two days moving Frazier to 1st and Santiago to 3rd. Keep Frazier at 3rd and let Lutz have some starts

add to it that Roger has done as close to nothing as I can imagine

[toledodan]

Well that play sucked insert Hoover jokes

[villain612]

So...I fall asleep...and Bruce homers.

Go figure.

Good night everyone.

[Kc61]

I don't get it. I hate seeing young players brought up here to just sit. Especially like these last two days moving Frazier to 1st and Santiago to 3rd. Keep Frazier at 3rd and let Lutz have some starts

The Reds obviously view Lutz as a fil-in man. If they thought he was a more serious prospect this would not happen.

The disconnect between the fans and the Reds is apparently a different perception of the player.

[toledodan]

So...I fall asleep...and Bruce homers.

Go figure.

Good night everyone.

You finished drinking :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Brignac strikes out swinging. 2 outs

[50YrRedsFan]

He won't allow Votto to be Lutz'd on his watch.
I had an open mind when they hired Price, but it is closing fast. No out of the box thinking, lineup make up, pitching decisions, pinch hitting assignments, etc, etc.
Right now I am not a fan of Price.

[Reds Fanatic]

Suddenly a one run game as Rollins homers. Hoover still stinks

[Red Raindog]

Hoover is back --- ugh

[Kc61]

Terrible pitch.

[Red Raindog]

I had an open mind when they hired Price, but it is closing fast. No out of the box thinking, lineup make up, pitching decisions, pinch hitting assignments, etc, etc.
Right now I am not a fan of Price.

I am getting there --- groan

[Kc61]

One might wonder why not the regular Lecure, Broxton, Chapman rotation to finish a three run game.

Hopefully it's not because Lecure threw last night. But may have been.

Now a walk. Hoover, the walk/fly ball combo isn't getting you anywhere.

[Reds Fanatic]

Now a walk to Ruiz

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That is it for Hoover now Parra in

[toledodan]

I had an open mind when they hired Price, but it is closing fast. No out of the box thinking, lineup make up, pitching decisions, pinch hitting assignments, etc, etc.
Right now I am not a fan of Price.

Compared to Dusty price thinks way out of the box. Problem is I think he goes out of the box then out of his mind.

[757690]

So who gets sent down when Latos comes back in about a week?

Before you say Ondrusek, the Reds seem to like him as an innings filler. Sean Marshall? Threw better last time, veteran, can they legitimately DL him?

Go with 13 pitchers? Don't laugh, given some of these hitters it might make sense.

Two outs for the Reds in the fifth. 6-2 ballgame, Reds.

I think we have our answer.

[WrongVerb]

I am getting there --- groan

I'd like to see what he does without glaring holes at LF and SS.

[Kc61]

I think we have our answer.

You could be right.

[toledodan]

Chapman is already stretching in the pen. Multiple innings for chappy tonight?

[cbowen2112]

Who can we call up to help get lefties out in our pen? Parra's arm might fall off.

[757690]

I had an open mind when they hired Price, but it is closing fast. No out of the box thinking, lineup make up, pitching decisions, pinch hitting assignments, etc, etc.
Right now I am not a fan of Price.

Here's the deal with managers. The difference between the most advanced thinking manager and the oldest of old school managers just isn't that big. There so only so many ways to manage a game, and all of them have very similar odds of how they turn out.

[cbowen2112]

Tie game soon?

[JMO]

This team is hard to watch. Man I wish we had Gregorius and a LF.

[Reds Fanatic]

They get another runner at the plate. Great play by Mesoraco!!!

[Magdal]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[cbowen2112]

wow...that was close.

[Kc61]

Has the Reds' third base coach moved to Philly?

[toledodan]

Who can we call up to help get lefties out in our pen? Parra's arm might fall off.

Tony cingrani

[757690]

The fielders are not playing unmotivated today.

[WrongVerb]

Omg what a play!!!!!!!!!!!!

Omg what a play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

2 runners cut down today by the Bruce to Phillips to Mesoraco combination

[toledodan]

Two great Hamilton to Phillips to mez plays!

[cbowen2112]

Bring up Marmol and see how many he can get out...Hoover is a gas can...oh yeah and Ondrusek is eh...Jumbo to the rescue too?

[50YrRedsFan]

Who can we call up to help get lefties out in our pen? Parra's arm might fall off.

I think it's obvious. Move Cingrani to the bullpen when Latos returns. Send out Ondrusek or Hoover. That gives you 3 lefties in the pen.

[JMO]

DFA Bernadina and Santiago
Call up Nelson and Felix Perez
Cingrani to the BP when Latos comes back
Send down Hoover and Ondrusek
Call up Jumbo and Marmol
Put Marshall on the fake DL when Votto comes back

[Magdal]

What a ballgame!

[757690]

Old Abner has done it again. Phillips after making a great play to end the inning, comes up to lead off the inning.

[Cedric]

But I'm told Hoover has good peripherals. He projects to be good down the stretch so who cares that's he's horrible now.

[Kc61]

Phillips may have lost some speed, but his second base play this year has been sensational.

[Big Klu]

2 runners cut down today by the Bruce to Phillips to Mesoraco combination

Hamilton to Phillips to Mesoraco.

[Red Raindog]

Here's the deal with managers. The difference between the most advanced thinking manager and the oldest of old school managers just isn't that big. There so only so many ways to manage a game, and all of them have very similar odds of how they turn out.

I agree to a point -- I've always thought bad managers cost more games than good ones because they make more bad moves --- letting Lutz rot is one of those bad moves ---- letting Cozart hit down by 1 with 2 outs in the 9th against Romo (a right hand slider specialist if there ever was one) while Lutz watched -- is an ugly one

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Hamilton to Phillips to Mesoraco.

looks like Billy's arm is OK

[tomnuetten]

Old Abner has done it again. Phillips after making a great play to end the inning, comes up to lead off the inning.


not only a great play from phillips.. it was a good throw from billy first and rocco with a huge play at home!

great defence

[malcontent]

2 runners cut down today by the Bruce to Phillips to Mesoraco combination
Gameday says both by Hamilton.....?

[Kc61]

But I'm told Hoover has good peripherals. He projects to be good down the stretch so who cares that's he's horrible now.

Hoover would do better in a bigger stadium. He's a fly ball pitcher. Add in the walks and you have problems.

When he is missing bats consistently, JJ is tremendous. But otherwise the batted balls tend to go far.

[50YrRedsFan]

Hamilton has turned into a very good CFer. Maybe a Gold Glove CFer.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips is robbed by Rollins

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds with only 5 hits in 6 innings. Need more than that.


edit: Now only 5 hits in 7 innings.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mesoraco strikes out swinging

[Reds Fanatic]

Whew that was close. Howard flies out to the wall in left

[Kc61]

Reds pen is getting worked a little with some of these shorter starting pitching stints.

[Reds Fanatic]

Byrd strikes out swinging

[757690]

Reds pen is getting worked a little with some of these shorter starting pitching stints.

But that's a good thing, right? ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Brown singles to center

[50YrRedsFan]

Scores: Cards 5 -Tor 0 Final ; Brewers 4 - Pirates 3; 8th inning

Cubs 5-Mia 2; 9th inning.....Cubs only 2 games behind Reds in loss column.

[757690]

Broxton reminds me of Cordero. He gets the job done, but it's always stressful to watch.

[malcontent]

That's why you sac Cozart to Santiago a chance.

[Ironman92]

Broxton reminds me of Cordero. He gets the job done, but it's always stressful to watch.

Ramon Santiago reminds me of a AA shortstop

[WrongVerb]

Ramon Santiago reminds me of a AA shortstop

So does Cozart.

[Ironman92]

Chappy has been unhittable since his utilization of his change up.....hope no one guesses right on a fastball

[WrongVerb]

101 FB comes back with 89 slider that's just unfair.

[kaldaniels]

Scores: Cards 5 -Tor 0 Final ; Brewers 4 - Pirates 3; 8th inning

Cubs 5-Mia 2; 9th inning.....Cubs only 2 games behind Reds in loss column.

Nothing against you personally, but it seems that both the "win" and "loss" column are used, depending on how it fits the narrative.

I like "games back", or even better if you are comparing teams, winning percentage.

[WrongVerb]

I love watching the body language of these hitters. They just know they have no chance.

[villain612]

A 90mph slider and changeup? Followed by 103mph heat.

It's fun to watch him pitch.

Reds win.

[50YrRedsFan]

Nothing against you personally, but it seems that both the "win" and "loss" column are used, depending on how it fits the narrative.

I like "games back", or even better if you are comparing teams, winning percentage.

I use loss column. Reds just need to win, that's all.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds win!

Good game for Frazier, Bruce, Hamilton and Simon (mostly). But only 6 hits?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Weird stat of the game. Tonight was JJ Hoover's first "hold" of the year. :O)

[villain612]

Weird stat of the game. Tonight was JJ Hoover's first "hold" of the year. :O)

On an optimistic note, due to JJ Hoover, the Reds W-L record in 1 run games got better.

[Tom Servo]

We're good again :beerme:

[PuffyPig]

Broxton reminds me of Cordero. He gets the job done, but it's always stressful to watch.

8 hits, 5 walks in 19 innings suggests that this year has not been stressful.

[Tony Cloninger]

[QUOTE=Red Raindog;3103776]I agree to a point -- I've always thought bad managers cost more games than good ones because they make more bad moves --- letting Lutz rot is one of those bad moves ---- letting Cozart hit down by 1 with 2 outs in the 9th against Romo (a right hand slider specialist if there ever was one) while Lutz watched -- is an ugly one

Thank You. He has control over some things and seems incapable of doing them.

Dusty may not or was not big on outside the box thinking but he had other managerial traits that helped more than it is helping Price.
Right now Price needs all the help he can get when it comes to making decisions and he is failing on the obvious ones.