6/18/2014-Reds-Vs-Pirates Game 2

[PepperJack]

Hamilton
Frazier
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Mesoraco
Schumaker
Cozart
Simon


Pirates

Polanco
Marte
McCutcheon
Davis
Martin
Harrison
Alvarez
Mercer
Volquez

[Ironman92]

Need mor winz

[Puffy]

Ludwick has been hot but I like having the more patient Schumaker against Volquez.

Just one man's humble opinion. Now I shall wait for Raisor to show up to see if my opinion is correct......

[Ironman92]

Wondering about Skip but Luddy is just 2/13 off of Volquez while Skip is 4/16 with 3 doubles......even Heisey was a better choice as he is 2/4 with a double and a triple off of the former Red.

[Ironman92]

Ludwick has been hot but I like having the more patient Schumaker against Volquez.

Just one man's humble opinion. Now I shall wait for Raisor to show up to see if my opinion is correct......

Lol

[toledodan]

with the day game thursday it's not a bad idea to give ludwick the night off.

[Roy Tucker]

Need mor winz

gO reDz

[Ironman92]

with the day game thursday it's not a bad idea to give ludwick the night off.

I just wonder how much wear and tear him playing LF and running the bases a couple times takes on him. He's not a spring chicken but he also has had a decent bit of rest this season. I like sitting him because he's 2/13 more than because of a day game tomorrow....but coupled together it's certainly a good fit.

[klw]

good chance of storms late in the game

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[Magdal]

Comparing Skip to Luddy at the plate: Lud is the much more dangerous of the two.

[Tom Servo]

Billy struck out
Frazier grounded out to third
Votto walked
BP popped up to shallow center

[Tom Servo]

Nice try by BP :laugh:

[Tom Servo]

Marte singled and stole second, but the Reds flash the leather on D and Simon escapes the inning unscathed.

[Kc61]

Dusty Baker used to rest Ludwick quite often. When Ludwick was healthy he'd normally play two out of the three in a series.

[kbrake]

I think picking the right match ups for Ludwick will really help him, it certainly seems to be working so far.

Absolutely love watching this team defensively.

[Kc61]

Two on for the Reds. Good at bat by Mes who walked on a full count.

Volquez is grounders, Ks, and walks. Have to wait him out and avoid the DP.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce catches a break on a single that hopped over Ike Davis' head
Mesoraco has a nice AB and takes a walk

[kbrake]

So much better watching Volquez do this in a different uniform.

[Kc61]

V goes in the dirt, so the Reds now second and third, no outs. Schumaker, Cozart, pitcher.

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Schu with a line shot for a sacrifice fly. 1-0.

[Tom Servo]

Schumaker hit that one on the screws but right to Polanco in right field. Still good for a sac fly.

1-0 Redlegs.

[Kc61]

Man on third, one out, Cozart up. C'mon Zack let's get the run in.

[Tom Servo]

So much better watching Volquez do this in a different uniform.
Based on the early returns in 2008, I really thought he would be what Johnny Cuteo is now.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart, you jamoke.

[Kc61]

Now with two outs Simon up, should play for the wild pitch.

But he pops up. 1-0.

[Larkin Fan]

Sometimes I wonder if Cozart wouldn't be better suited as a golfer, because I swear his swing is more appropriate for that than baseball.

[Magdal]

Watching updates on MLBTV hoping to get a look at Polanco.

[malcontent]

You knew Cozart would take the first pitch FB right down the middle.

Not a smart hitter.

[Chip R]

I don't think Cozart is a better hitter than any of the pitchers in the starting rotation and Cingrani.

[VR]

Cozart, you jamoke.

Guy on 3rd....1 out....pitcher up next....and the pitcher doesn't even hint at pitching around you. He's the anti-Hamilton, I tell ya.

[Larkin Fan]

Based on the early returns in 2008, I really thought he would be what Johnny Cuteo is now.


Aww I wonder if Johnny knows that you think he's cute-e-o? ;)

[wheels]

Aww I wonder if Johnny knows that you think he's cute-e-o? ;)

Is Tom Servo a girl too?

[Larkin Fan]

You knew Cozart would take the first pitch FB right down the middle.

Not a smart hitter.

I don't think he's a hitter, period. Intelligence doesn't have much to do with it.

[kbrake]

Based on the early returns in 2008, I really thought he would be what Johnny Cuteo is now.

I always had high hopes for him but he could test the most patient person on the planet. I'm guessing even Sir Charles got burned out on him.

[Larkin Fan]

What a freakin' catch by BHam. Wow.

[Tom Servo]

I friggin hate Josh Harrison.

[thatcoolguy_22]

Josh Harrison :bang:

[kbrake]

I friggin hate Josh Harrison.

I thought it had to be a break to not face Neil Walker. Apparently it is just any Pirates 2nd basemen.

[Chip R]

Is some moron in the stands chanting "Cueto"?

[Larkin Fan]

Is some moron in the stands chanting "Cueto"?

I believe they are chanting 'Fredo.'

[_Sir_Charles_]

I like the attempt to sort out umpiring mistakes with the replay system, but I hate the manager abuse of it with this coming out to chat while waiting on the bench coaches to review the replay before deciding to challenge.

[Magdal]

I think Hamilton is a future super star. Not just as a stealer, but when he fills out a little, he will become a Lou Brock. I'm totally serious.

I'm still waiting for a look at this Polanco guy. :cry:

[Larkin Fan]

I like the attempt to sort out umpiring mistakes with the replay system, but I hate the manager abuse of it with this coming out to chat while waiting on the bench coaches to review the replay before deciding to challenge.

I agree with you. Replay wasn't supposed to delay the game substantially, but this exploitation of the system by the managers is causing quite a bit of delay.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the pbp.

[Gallen5862]

What are they looking at on replay?

[Kc61]

Frazier singles with one out in the third, 1-0 Reds. Votto coming up.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I agree with Welch on that. Somebody should just convince Billy to carry batting gloves in his hands while on the bases to eliminate that jamming of fingers into the bases. I never understood the use of that contraption.

[Tom Servo]

Very interesting insight by Welsh on what hitting coach Don Long does with Frazier.

[_Sir_Charles_]

What are they looking at on replay?

Close play on the Harrison SB. He was safe though.

[Tom Servo]

Votto singles again. He is in pure Vottomatic mode.

[Kc61]

2-2 on Votto, more cleanly shaven today, after a low one is called a strike.

But you can't keep Votto down. Hit. Runner to third. Throw to third, Votto at second.

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So we are now in RISP with one out land.

Phillips.

[Brutus]

Votto singles again. He is in pure Vottomatic mode.

Yes he looks so much better since he got back. Really looks dialed in.

[_Sir_Charles_]

He's a machine. Love his approach. Best I've ever seen in my lifetime as a Reds fan (and that includes all of the BRM).

[Kc61]

WP, everyone advances, 2-0 Reds.

[_Sir_Charles_]

RZ acting up for anybody else?

[Brutus]

Thank you for your contribution, Volquez. Please come again!

[Kc61]

Speaking of dialed in, Phillips doubles, 3-0. 18 doubles for BP.

[Tom Servo]

DatDude delivers!

3-0 Redlegs

[Brutus]

With Simon's command looking erratic so far, that means a likely short stint. A short stint likely means more middle relief. More middle relief means... SCORE MORE RUNS!

[_Sir_Charles_]

With Simon's command looking erratic so far, that means a likely short stint. A short stint likely means more middle relief. More middle relief means... SCORE MORE RUNS!

As I read this post, I immediately started quoting "if you give a mouse a cookie" in my head. Too many kids in this house. LOL.

[kbrake]

Throwing a wild pitch to allow a run in and walking to cover the plate when there could have been a play has to be the most Edinson Volquez thing ever.

[Kc61]

Pirates announcers refer to Bruce as a feast or famine guy. Time for the feast.

Bruce up with one out, man on second, 3-0 Reds.

2-2 count. Almost another wild pitch. Full count.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks Sir charles. Let's go Reds.

[Magdal]

RZ acting up for anybody else?YES

[50YrRedsFan]

Martin is getting tired of Volquez' pitches in the dirt.

[Kc61]

Bruce fouls one, it was quite low. Volquez is wild low tonight.

53 pitches for V.

Walked him. Two on.

[Tom Servo]

This inning is vintage Volquez.

[50YrRedsFan]

Volquez just hanging on now.

[Kc61]

Now Mesoraco with two on, one out. Two balls, no strikes.

Mes ready to swing away.

HBP. Bases loaded for Schumaker.

One out still, third inning, 3-0 Reds.

[RedsBrick]

Ed being Ed...and I thank him for it.

[Brutus]

This inning is vintage Volquez.

NOW it's especially vintage Volquez.

[thatcoolguy_22]

This inning is vintage Volquez.

Now its vintage Volquez. HBP

[Kc61]

Schu hit a sac fly last time. Was hit hard.

Now V gets a strike. Now a foul, so Skip is in a hole.

Base hit, run scores. 0-2 pitch, Reds now up by four. Bases loaded for Cozart.

[Tom Servo]

The Shoe Man delivers!

[Larkin Fan]

Very interesting insight by Welsh on what hitting coach Don Long does with Frazier.

I like it. Perhaps he should try it with Cozart too? If there was ever a guy who needed to improve his hitting eye, it is him.

[tomnuetten]

that´s the Volquez I know :thumbup:

[Larkin Fan]

It's so nice to see the patented Volquez implosion happening for another team, instead of the Reds.

[Kc61]

I like it. Perhaps he should try it with Cozart too? If there was ever a guy who needed to improve his hitting eye, it is him.

Frazier post-game gave some credit to Long for helping him. 2-0 on Cozart with bases loaded.

Cozart goes 2-1. Bloop hit. Five zip, still one out.

V is out.

[Tom Servo]

You things are going well when even Cozart can sneak in a hit.

[Mutaman]

I think Hamilton is a future super star. Not just as a stealer, but when he fills out a little, he will become a Lou Brock. I'm totally serious.


I'll be quite happy if he's simply Maury Wills.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Best thing that happened to the Reds in the last 5 years - Volquez turns down LTC offer.

[Larkin Fan]

Volquez should feel like an idiot. He just got knocked out of the game by Zach Cozart.

[Chip R]

I think Hamilton is a future super star. Not just as a stealer, but when he fills out a little, he will become a Lou Brock. I'm totally serious.

I'm still waiting for a look at this Polanco guy. :cry:

In 1962 Lou Brock hit a HR into the CF bleachers of the Polo Grounds. 475 feet away. Not saying Hamilton has or will have that kind of power but it's an interesting bit of trivia.

[50YrRedsFan]

Cozout pops up again, but this one drops for an RBI hit.........lucky 5-0 Reds

[Brutus]

Though I give an assist this game to Volquez, it really is remarkable how much better this offense has looked since Votto got back. A lot of credit goes to Votto for that, but it's also because Bruce is slowly coming around, Hamilton has been on fire as has Ludwick and Frazier and Mesoraco are a lot better this season. I still think it's going to be a good offense when all is said and done. Not great, but adequate.

[Roy Tucker]

Eduardo Perez says PNC Park has the best lights in the league. Great to hit by.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Cozart is up to .230, he'll be at .250 by the ASB.

[Brutus]

In 1962 Lou Brock hit a HR into the CF bleachers of the Polo Grounds. 475 feet away. Not saying Hamilton has or will have that kind of power but it's an interesting bit of trivia.

I bet Hamilton could outrun the ball in a race to 475 feet.

[Mutaman]

Cozart is up to .230, he'll be at .250 by the ASB.

If that happens, who is the designated whipping boy going to be?

[Kc61]

Simon up with bases loaded. New pitcher out there. Swinging bunt, man forced out at home.

Pirates and announcers very excited.

Hamilton coming up.

[Roy Tucker]

Edinson still works the gum.

[gilpdawg]

I don't think Cozart is a better hitter than any of the pitchers in the starting rotation and Cingrani.

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

[Kc61]

Review on the play at home to determine if the catcher blocked the plate. Saw the replay and it is close.

Tough on a force play like that, catcher has legitimate reason to be touching the base.

This is not a Reds challenge, a crew chief review.

Long delay, this is a serious replay.

YES. 6-0 on the reversal.

[Tadasimha]

I think he was safe - looked to me like his foot was at the plate before the tag was made

[WrongVerb]

Did Martin have control of the ball?

[Chip R]

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Who is worse? Even Simon can hit a ball to medium RF.

[Larkin Fan]

Martin is blocking the plate, IMo.

[50YrRedsFan]

Just got him, I think

[kbrake]

I have no idea what the rule is or how this will be called. Based on how the inning is going I'm expecting the Reds to be awarded 2 runs.

[Falls City Beer]

Martin looks like he's blocking.

[Tom Servo]

Safe! I don't get it, but I'll take it!

[VottoFan54]

I think Martin bobbled the ball.

[Roy Tucker]

Holy cow.

[Chip R]

Martin is blocking the plate, IMo.

Yeah, with his foot. Hurdle is going to get tossed.

[Gallen5862]

Was he safe because of beating the throw or was it the new blocking rule?

[Stray]

I'll take it!

[Tadasimha]

Just got him, I think

Seeing it again, I don't think he ever really tagged Mes - which is a stupid thing to say since it was a force play. Duh

[Chuckie]

Wow, we got one. The season is really turning in our favor in every way.

[Tom Servo]

Those New York fat cats are to blame!

[Roy Tucker]

I'll take it but I thought he was out and no block on Martin.

[Kc61]

The call is that the catcher was blocking the plate. It's a good call, he was blocking the plate without the ball.

Tricky, though, because it was a force play. So understandable that Martin was in that posture.

Still, seems like the right decision.

[Mutaman]

Boy when you're hot , everything goes right.

[Roy Tucker]

Seeing it again, I don't think he ever really tagged Mes

It was a force.

[Chuckie]

nm

[gilpdawg]

Who is worse? Even Simon can hit a ball to medium RF.

If a pitcher put up Cozart's numbers we'd say he was one of the best hitting pitchers.

[RedFanAlways1966]

If I was a Pirates fan, I'd expect Hurdle to get ejected. Not sure exactly what the REPLAY PERSON saw, but I do not agree. I am a REDS fan though... yes, another run!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Horrible ruling. Goes in the Reds favor, but horrible ruling. He had his foot on the plate. Where else is he supposed to put it on a force play?!?

[Tom Servo]

You are absolutely correct. The announcers keep talking about "I don't think he unfairly blocked the plate" but that's not the point. He missed the tag. Good call Tad.
No tag on a force play.

[gilpdawg]

Seeing it again, I don't think he ever really tagged Mes

Dude, force play.

[Falls City Beer]

You can't throw your leg into the basepath without the ball.

[RedsManRick]

I'm a big fan of the anti-collision rules, but that just sucks for the Pirates. Martin shouldn't have set himself up on top of the plate, just like a 1B doesn't set himself up over 1B. It was the right call, but it's going to take some getting used to. I just wish they'd call it the same way at all the bases -- don't privilege home plate.

[Big Klu]

I gotta say, if that's what instant replay is going to be about, then the sooner they get rid of it the better. I know it benefits the Reds by giving them a run, but everything in my being tells me that Devin was out.

[Chuckie]

Horrible ruling. Goes in the Reds favor, but horrible ruling. He had his foot on the plate. Where else is he supposed to put it on a force play?!?

Yeah, I'd be pissed if I were a Pirates fan. And not just because I had to live in Pittsburgh.

[kbrake]

Horrible ruling. Goes in the Reds favor, but horrible ruling. He had his foot on the plate. Where else is he supposed to put it on a force play?!?

C. Trent just made a decent point. You can't put your entire foot on first base either. Martin has to play that out in front of the plate like he is at first.

[tomnuetten]

is it really because of blocking the plate? if yes I don´t like it

I think/hope it was because martin bobbled the ball

[Larkin Fan]

I think they ruled him safe because Martin didn't have control of the ball when he blocked the plate. He would have been smarter to have played it as a force out rather than the way he set up.

[Tom Servo]

Billy delivers!

[WrongVerb]

I think, if the rule is that no sliding lane was provided, the Pirates got jobbed by the rule, not the interpretation. However, I still think Martin bobbled the ball at the end of the play and that Mez was safe because of that.

[Chuckie]

Billy Baseball laces one to RCF. 8-0 Redlegs. About to be the .500 Redlegs.

[Mutaman]

Baseball in the age of Budd Lite.

[Raisor]

Ludwick has been hot but I like having the more patient Schumaker against Volquez.

Just one man's humble opinion. Now I shall wait for Raisor to show up to see if my opinion is correct......


I get paid for consulting

[Chip R]

I'll take it but I thought he was out and no block on Martin.

I think he would have been out if Martin's foot had not been right at the plate. Rocco couldn't get his foot in there to beat the force.

That said, I don't think that is what the rule is supposed to be interpreted as literally as that.

[Kc61]

Problem there is with the rule.

On a tag play, the reversal is clearly right, he blocked the plate without the ball.

On a force play, the Rule is kind of harsh because the catcher needs to be there, or pretty close. Needs a foot on the base.

Hamilton with a hit, it's now 8-0, ball gets loose, second and third. Pretty decent Reds inning.

[Stray]

This is crazy

[_Sir_Charles_]

You can't throw your leg into the basepath without the ball.

He didn't. He had his foot on the bag just like at first. His whole body was outside the sliding lane, but his foot is on the plate so of course his leg is in the path. That's a JOKE of a ruling IMO.

[Falls City Beer]

Excessive, but the letter of the law.

[RedsManRick]

Wow, when it rains, it pours.

Couldn't we have had some of this luck spread out in April & May instead of clumped between tonight and the other night?

[Tom Servo]

You can be sure we are going to get some more calls this year that go against us unfairly, just sit back and enjoy this one boyos.

[Brutus]

If I ever start a retro oldies band, I'm calling it Billy & The Hamiltons.

[Larkin Fan]

I gotta say, if that's what instant replay is going to be about, then the sooner they get rid of it the better. I know it benefits the Reds by giving them a run, but everything in my being tells me that Devin was out.

Personally, I don't see this as an indictment on instant replay but rather the lack of clarity of the new rules regarding plays at the plate.

[gilpdawg]

I'd get everyone out of the game here. They will probably be throwing at someone, because Pittsburgh does that.

[dsmith421]

Earlier this year in a game against Pgh, the Reds got screwed on one of those stupid "blocking the plate" interpretations. I believe it was the game where Mr. Cueto threw a three-hitter and sent the Pirates to the land of wind and ghosts.

[Roy Tucker]

Does the rule discern between force plays and tags at home?

[WrongVerb]

Personally, I don't see this as an indictment on instant replay but rather the lack of clarity of the new rules regarding plays at the plate.

Agreed. I think the rule unfairly went against the Pirates. I think the rule needs to be looked at next year.

[Mutaman]

Excessive, but the letter of the law.

The letter of the law should always be interpreted with the criteria "What is fair", and what is reasonable.

[Kc61]

Ruling is that there was no lane for Mes to use to cross home plate. Seems fair. Harder on a force play but even on a force, you can have a collision. Tough situation, probably some clarification is in order by MLB.

Two outs, now inning over. 8-0.

I seldom do play by play, that time it was fruitful.

[Tom Servo]

Typical Reds leaving men on base. :)

[Kc61]

Agreed. I think the rule unfairly went against the Pirates. I think the rule needs to be looked at next year.

Ok. But keep in mind that if Mes was a bit faster, he's in collision territory with Martin right on the plate.

If the goal is to avoid collisions, well . . . .

[tomnuetten]

long time between simons pitches.. let´s see if he stayed "sharp"

[Larkin Fan]

What a play by Votto!

[Tom Servo]

Awesome snag at first by Votto.

[Kc61]

Great play by Votto to get Polanco. Saved a double.

[Brisco]

Heck of a game for Reds offense... 8 players have hits and the only one that doesn't (Mez) does not have an at bat... But he does have two runs scored.

[RedsManRick]

Joey's knee feel better?

[Roy Tucker]

The Reda play good D. Refreshing to see the sport played well.

[JMO]

Keep your foot on the gas, do not let up. It would be huge if the Reds can have a nice easy win and have the ability to rest some regulars later on after the 5th

[_Sir_Charles_]

Good day to get Tony some work AND Simon a break.

But they'll leave him in to get that W.

[Larkin Fan]

Small sample size, but Joey has been looking more like the Votto that won a Gold Glove since coming off the DL.

[tomnuetten]

Keep your foot on the gas, do not let up. It would be huge if the Reds can have a nice easy win and have the ability to rest some regulars later on after the 5th

I hope they get as many pitches out of the pirates bullpen as they can.. that would be my gameplan for the rest of the game.
try to get an advantage for the next game(s)

[Kc61]

Simon at 54 pitches through three innings, as he strikes out the MVP.

8-0 ballgame.

[Brutus]

After watching the replay again on Gameday, I do believe by rule they got it right. However, all he needed to do in that situation is catch the ball with his foot on the base, as he did, and it didn't matter if he was blocking the plate because Mesoraco had not yet gotten to the base. So in that scenario, I don't like the call from a baseball point of view.

[Brutus]

Good day to get Tony some work AND Simon a break.

But they'll leave him in to get that W.

Too soon to be thinking breaks. If a guy is pitching well, you don't want to leave it to chance this soon in the game. Even if the Reds score a couple more times, I'd still prefer they leave Simon in for 5-6 innings anyhow.

[Roy Tucker]

Donate food at Friday and Saturdays games and get a free ticket. We're going Friday night.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Too soon to be thinking breaks. If a guy is pitching well, you don't want to leave it to chance this soon in the game. Even if the Reds score a couple more times, I'd still prefer they leave Simon in for 5-6 innings anyhow.

I didn't mean right now.

[Larkin Fan]

Every guy in the lineup has a hit now. Love it.

[Tadasimha]

Another double for Mes

[Tom Servo]

Nice piece of hitting by the Shoe man again. 9-0 Redlegs.

[Roy Tucker]

Too soon to be thinking breaks. If a guy is pitching well, you don't want to leave it to chance this soon in the game. Even if the Reds score a couple more times, I'd still prefer they leave Simon in for 5-6 innings anyhow.

Yep. Keep your foot on their neck. Don't let them think they have a chance. Burn and pillage.

[Brutus]

I didn't mean right now.

I know, but you said they would probably leave him in to get the win, which implies that you'd take him out before 5 innings. I think that's too soon unless you're up like 15-20 runs, in which case yeah... it's easy street.

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Nice piece of hitting by the Shoe man again. 9-0 Redlegs.

The Price is right!

[harangatang]

The Reds now have a positive run differential!

[Larkin Fan]

An 8-0 lead could disappear as fast as it came, so no hurry to get guys out of there. The Dodgers-Reds game from a few seasons ago that the Reds blew an eight run leas comes to mind.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I know, but you said they would probably leave him in to get the win, which implies that you'd take him out before 5 innings. I think that's too soon unless you're up like 15-20 runs, in which case yeah... it's easy street.


My point was I don't leave him in just to get him a W.

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An 8-0 lead could disappear as fast as it came, so no hurry to get guys out of there. The Dodgers-Reds game from a few seasons ago that the Reds blew an eight run leas comes to mind.

But it's a 9-0 lead. Does that rule still apply? :O)

[JMO]

Ludwick and Schumaker in LF is working well right now. The issue is the BP right now and hopefully Cingrani can stabalize it a bit. IMHO, Jumbo Diaz should be called up and Hoover should be sent down in order to get his mojo and confidence back.

[Larkin Fan]

It was 8-0 when I started typing that post on my phone. So there, Charles. ;)

[Tom Servo]

An 8-0 lead could disappear as fast as it came, so no hurry to get guys out of there. The Dodgers-Reds game from a few seasons ago that the Reds blew an eight run leas comes to mind.
There is also this game which still haunts my memories.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL201005200.shtml

[Raisor]

Donate food at Friday and Saturdays games and get a free ticket. We're going Friday night.


Warning for all people doing this: the needy do not want your left over canned pumpkin pie filling.

[Brutus]

An 8-0 lead could disappear as fast as it came, so no hurry to get guys out of there. The Dodgers-Reds game from a few seasons ago that the Reds blew an eight run leas comes to mind.

And lest we all forget...*gulp*... the Mother's Day Massacre!

[Larkin Fan]

I bet Cueto is in the dugout wondering just what he has to do to get this kind of run support!

[Brutus]

My point was I don't leave him in just to get him a W.



I think we all agree on that. I just think that 4-5 innings is too soon to pull a starting pitcher just because the game seems in hand.

[kbrake]

There is also this game which still haunts my memories.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL201005200.shtml

That was a nightmare on so many levels. Did teach that seasons don't end in May no matter how painful the loss may be.

[Brutus]

They finally got Harrison out. Tom Servo rejoices!

[RedlegJake]

Harrison is a Cincinnati fella so I'll forgive him as long as the Reds win

[Larkin Fan]

There is also this game which still haunts my memories.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL201005200.shtml


Oh man, I'd forgotten about that horrifying experience.

[Raisor]

Oh man, I'd forgotten about that horrifying experience.

My junior prom?

[_Sir_Charles_]

My junior prom?

Was that the one where you took your cat as your date?

[Tadasimha]

Oh man, I'd forgotten about that horrifying experience.

Would have liked to have that game stay forgotten!

[Tom Servo]

That was a nightmare on so many levels. Did teach that seasons don't end in May no matter how painful the loss may be.
Totally, I remember being sure at the time that after that game the Reds were going to go into the tank. Taught me that each game really is only one game.

[Raisor]

Was that the one where you took your cat as your date?

I would have had more fun if I had.

[Kc61]

Ludwick and Schumaker in LF is working well right now. The issue is the BP right now and hopefully Cingrani can stabalize it a bit. IMHO, Jumbo Diaz should be called up and Hoover should be sent down in order to get his mojo and confidence back.

There's an article tonight, I think mlb.com. No bullpen changes planned, according to Price.

I'd let Simon go seven tonight. Use Hoover to finish up. I'd give one or two regulars a rest after the next inning or two.

[Larkin Fan]

My junior prom?

That's between you and the wall you hugged. ;)

[Raisor]

I wish we could create Marty-bot that would just call the game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'd LOVE to get Jay back on track. It's been a long time since I've seen some halfway decent BA's at the top of a Reds lineup.

.273 Hamilton
.276 Frazier
.277 Votto
.280 Phillips
.217 Bruce
.311 Rocco

[5TimeWSChamps]

Sorry I'm at work and couldn't post until now.

Go Reds!

(Don't want to be known as one of those negative posters that only post when we are losing... :))

[Raisor]

I'd LOVE to get Jay back on track. It's been a long time since I've seen some halfway decent BA's at the top of a Reds lineup.

.273 Hamilton
.276 Frazier
.277 Votto
.280 Phillips
.217 Bruce
.311 Rocco


This single post killed six puppy dogs

[KittyDuran]

There is also this game which still haunts my memories.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL201005200.shtml

Thanks for the memories... Was there for half the game and listened horrified trying to get out of the greater Atlanta area going home. First time I encounter rush hour traffic there. Crappy day all around.

[_Sir_Charles_]

This single post killed six puppy dogs

I don't care. I like batting average. Getting hits is a good thing. (that's not a knock on OBP or OPS)

[Tom Servo]

I can't believe Billy even came as close as he did to nearly catching that.

[WrongVerb]

There is also this game which still haunts my memories.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL201005200.shtml

Is that the game that prompted the Reds to bring up Chapman?

[Raisor]

I don't care. I like batting average. Getting hits is a good thing. (that's not a knock on OBP or OPS)

Do you like avg more than you like puppy dogs?

[Larkin Fan]

I'd LOVE to get Jay back on track. It's been a long time since I've seen some halfway decent BA's at the top of a Reds lineup.

.273 Hamilton
.276 Frazier
.277 Votto
.280 Phillips
.217 Bruce
.311 Rocco

Votto has to get back above .300. Otherwise I will question everything I've ever believed to be true.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Do you like avg more than you like puppy dogs?

Hmmmm....tough question. Can the puppies hit?

[RedlegJake]

If it helps Bruce is OPS'ing .765 the last 14 days. He isn't as bad as that .217 BA, he just hasn't really gotten completely on track. I wonder if his knee is dogging him a bit yet.

[Raisor]

Hmmmm....tough question. Can the puppies hit?

You're a monster

[Tom Servo]

Billy Hamilton - crushing Pirates dreams

[Brutus]

Kind of surprised the Pirates went ahead and let Pementel hit. Perhaps they're willing to accept their fate gracefully.

[5TimeWSChamps]

Billy freaking hamilton

[_Sir_Charles_]

If it helps Bruce is OPS'ing .765 the last 14 days. He isn't as bad as that .217 BA, he just hasn't really gotten completely on track. I wonder if his knee is dogging him a bit yet.

I agree. He's looking tons better IMO. Still depressing to see his BA at such a low level. I know there are more important stats and certainly more descriptive stats....but for me it's more of a comfort level thing. I feel like a guy is playing decently when I see at least .270.

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WOW. Billy, Billy, Billy.

[Larkin Fan]

I can't believe Billy even came as close as he did to nearly catching that.

I can't think of another CFer that even gets in the vicinity of that ball.

And as I type this, Hamilton throws out the runner out at the plate with that amazing arm. Wow!

[RedsManRick]

Hard to call Martin on that and then not call Mes; he was definitely blocking the plate. Great throw by Hamilton either way.

I think Alvarez may have been safe even with the block of the plate though.

[Chip R]

Boom, roasted!

[Chuckie]

He's a Rocket Arm. Rocket Arm throwing the runners out.

[Brutus]

Have I mentioned yet how much I love this Hamilton cat?

And no, Raisor, that is not a CFL reference.

[Kc61]

Pirates challenging the out at home. Give me a break. Mesoraco was in front of the plate, the runner had a clear lane, he was tagged out.

Give me a break.

[Larkin Fan]

Kelch is nuts if he thinks Rocco is blocking the plate.

[Raisor]

I've never had a single doubt about Billy.

[RedlegJake]

Pirates challenging the out at home. Give me a break. Mesoraco was in front of the plate, the runner had a clear lane, he was tagged out.

Give me a break.

Goose and Gander of course they challenge it.

[Chuckie]

Billy's personality: infectious. You see him out there clownin' with Votto, BP and Bruce?

Wow, called him safe. Replay is craptastic.

EDIT: Good overturn. He was safe.

[Raisor]

Boom, roasted!

Chip send me your email and I'll send you the thing.

Everyone: this is not an illegal transaction as far as you know

[Kc61]

Ruling is no violation of the rule, but the runner crossed the plate before the tag.

9-1 ballgame.

I'll take that trade.

[Tom Servo]

Eh, have your lousy make-up call Pirates.

[Ironman92]

Just caught up to LIVE tv

Hamilton is a beast in CF....and crap on Welsh for wanting him to not go for that catch that he just missed making. If my CF doesn't want to catch that...I don't want him as my CF

Thank You Alfredo.

LF production!

Did I mention I love Hamilton?

[Larkin Fan]

I've never had a single doubt about Billy.


Liar.

[RedlegJake]

catchers are going to have to relearn how to play the plate. And the league is going to have to make it crystal clear how they want it played.

[RedsManRick]

Billy's personality: infectious. You see him out there clownin' with Votto, BP and Bruce?

Wow, called him safe. Replay is craptastic.

EDIT: Good overturn. He was safe.

Hamilton plays with the joy of Phillips and the humility of Bruce. Fun to watch.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Safe on the replay from what I saw.

[Kc61]

catchers are going to have to relearn how to play the plate.

No violation was called. Runner just deemed safe.

[Ironman92]

I can't think of another CFer that even gets in the vicinity of that ball.

And as I type this, Hamilton throws out the runner out at the plate with that amazing arm. Wow!

Cain catches it without diving. Lol

[Chip R]

That's OK. Ruins the shutout but keeps Price from letting Simon go for a CG SO for pride's sake.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pirates challenging the out at home. Give me a break. Mesoraco was in front of the plate, the runner had a clear lane, he was tagged out.

Give me a break.

He missed the tag.

[Chuckie]

Eh, have your lousy make-up call Pirates.

Not a make-up call at all. Good call.

[Raisor]

Liar.


How dare you sir, I shall call my attorney!

[Larkin Fan]

Chip send me your email and I'll send you the thing.

Everyone: this is not an illegal transaction as far as you know

I'm not even gonna ask...

[RedsManRick]

I think there are going to be more runners safe at the plate at a result of the new rule. I suspect that people simply weren't aware of how many "extra" runners were out at home because of the way catchers were allowed to block home; that's going to take the most getting used to.

[toledodan]

Cain catches it without diving. Lol

Are you rex hudler lol

[Tadasimha]

How dare you sir, I shall call my attorney!

I thought it was your cat?

[Kc61]

9-1 after five innings.

[Raisor]

I'm not even gonna ask...


Egads! The fuzz is onto us!

[RedlegJake]

Egads! The fuzz is onto us!

I don't care if you are eating peaches with your cat....fuzz or not

[Raisor]

I thought it was your cat?

Third in his class at Harvard

[Larkin Fan]

Cain catches it without diving. Lol

I once saw him knock himself out running into the fence at GABP when he was with the Brewers.

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Cain catches it without diving. Lol

I once saw him knock himself out running into the fence at GABP when he was with the Brewers.

[Kc61]

I think there are going to be more runners safe at the plate at a result of the new rule. I suspect that people simply weren't aware of how many "extra" runners were out at home because of the way catchers were allowed to block home; that's going to take the most getting used to.

I always wondered why they let catchers block the plate without the ball.

Imagine if Votto blocked first base on an infield single. Just didn't let the runner touch the bag.

Game headed to the sixth, 9-1.

[Tadasimha]

I don't care if you are eating peaches with your cat....fuzz or not

What if it was a Hamilton Tiger-Cat?

[RedlegJake]

I see Cain a lot...I don't think Billy is better defensively but Cain can't stay healthy

[Raisor]

The team being healthy.
The team playing well.

[Roy Tucker]

Switching back and forth with the Reds and a really good NOVA about lightning and "sprites". Lots of ISS stuff.

I always wanted to be an astronaut. Mercury 7 and all that.

[Raisor]

Switching back and forth with the Reds and a really good NOVA about lightning and "sprites". Lots of ISS stuff.

I always wanted to be an astronaut. Mercury 7 and all that.

Nerd

[_Sir_Charles_]

I thought that was gone off the bat.

[TRF]

Nerd
old nerd.

[Chip R]

I always wondered why they let catchers block the plate without the ball.

Imagine if Votto blocked first base on an infield single. Just didn't let the runner touch the bag.

Game headed to the sixth, 9-1.

Conversely, I always wondered if the runner can knock the ball away from the catcher by diving into him, why can't they do that at the other bases? Imagine someone like Frazier with a full head of steam running into the 1st baseman to try to get him to drop the ball. Remember that Albert Bell play back in the 90s where he creamed a poor 2nd baseman who was in his way?

[Roy Tucker]

Nerd

Bite me.

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old nerd.

You too.

;)

[Raisor]

Bite me.

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You too.


Why would you take it that way? Nerds are awesome.