7/18/14 Redlegs @ Fightin' Jeters

[reds44]

Hamilton
Cozart
Frazier
Bruce RF
Mesoraco
Ludwick DH
Pena 1B
Heisey
Santiago

[Tom Servo]

Ludwick DH
Pena 1B
Heisey
Santiago
The True Murders Row

[Ironman92]

Looks good....let's go

[Mutaman]

Action at the big ballyard in the South Bronx. For anyone going to the games this weekend, recommend the pastrami and the knishes (ask for lots of mustard) at the Court Deli on 161 and Walton. Across from the courthouse, a few blocks east of the Stadium. Jewish food served by latinos. Only in New York.

[PepperJack]

Yankees

Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Ellsbury CF
Teixeira 1B
McCann C
Beltran DH
Ichiro RF
Roberts 2B
Johnson 3B
Phelps P

[Ironman92]

Has there ever been a lineup with more career hits? Obviously yes but man there are a lot there.

[Ironman92]

14,000+ ? Just quick estimations without looking anything up

[villain612]

Hamilton
Cozart
Frazier
Bruce RF
Mesoraco
Ludwick DH
Pena 1B
Heisey
Santiago

I think I'd rather have Leake hitting than a couple of those guys.

[RedlegJake]

14,000+ ? Just quick estimations without looking anything up

Just for kicks - 15,246 not counting the pitcher, fewest is Gardner's 613

[Chuckie]

Has there ever been a lineup with more career hits? Obviously yes but man there are a lot there.

This is a nice way of saying "Damn, there are a lot of washed up players in that Yankees' starting lineup."

[RedlegJake]

The DH really highlights how poor the choices are for bat off the bench

[villain612]

All those offseason moves by the Yankees and that massive payroll....and they're a .500 team.

[RedsBrick]

The line-up has looked pretty unremarkable for weeks now, yet the Reds are 26 - 15 since June 1. So...

[RedlegJake]

The Yanks roster is like an All Star team. Lots of past their prime popular players and a couple young guys. Only the names re scary - look at the numbers and you can see why they're struggling.

[Ironman92]

This is a nice way of saying "Damn, there are a lot of washed up players in that Yankees' starting lineup."

No, I don't think that way. If a guy has 2,200 hits I don't think that he's just over the hill and not really much of a factor anymore....I just appreciate that they have 2,200 hits.

[Ironman92]

Just for kicks - 15,246 not counting the pitcher, fewest is Gardner's 613

Thanks for the tally, hopefully Leake keeps their total under 16,000 by night's end.

[Ironman92]

Skip still hasn't passed the concussion test?

[Red Raindog]

I felt sure that Zobrist was going to be at 2B tonight after the recent thread --- ;)

[Ironman92]

As a big fan of Leake, supporter of Heisey and someone who has enjoyed several players on the Yankees over the years.....this could be one of those game threads that I might not be able to tolerate very long.

Need Leake to go 7 innings to get the Reds, himself and the bullpen wear off to a good start. I feel one of those 10 hits in 5 1/3 inn games with 4-5 ER.

[Ironman92]

I felt sure that Zobrist was going to be at 2B tonight after the recent thread --- ;)

I thought he was going to be at DH, 2B, 1B, 3B, LF, RF after that thread

[powersackers]

I felt sure that Zobrist was going to be at 2B tonight after the recent thread --- ;)

There was a Zobrist thread but nothing much was in it about Zobrist.

[powersackers]

When we go to Yankee Stadium I have Daryl Thompson flashbacks.

[Red Raindog]

When we go to Yankee Stadium I have Daryl Thompson flashbacks.

I warned you about the purple microdot --- :p

[PuffyPig]

I think I'd rather have Leake hitting than a couple of those guys.

Leake has been a horrible hitter this year, I hope it's just a small sample size thing. Even his bunting is off.

[villain612]

Strange to see Paul O'Neill in the booth.

I've never seen a YES network game before.

[Tom Servo]

"Go Away gift"

[villain612]

I know some people don't like interleague play but tonight's game is a reason why I love it. How often do you get to see the Reds in Yankee Stadium?

As long as they don't play too many games across leagues, I'm totally on board for it.

[Ironman92]

Billy didn't look good

[powersackers]

I warned you about the purple microdot --- :p

I had to Google that. Funny.

[757690]

The Yanks roster is like an All Star team.

Yep, the 2005 All-Star team.

[Ironman92]

I know some people don't like interleague play but tonight's game is a reason why I love it. How often do you get to see the Reds in Yankee Stadium?

As long as they don't play too many games across leagues, I'm totally on board for it.

I love it. Playing the Astros 19x a season was not good for baseball fans, but good for wins

[Ironman92]

On pace for 27 K from a guy throwing 90 mph

[Ironman92]

Really really easy inning....I should go do something. Leake tends to give up hit after hit when I watch it live.

[marcshoe]

Thom, how was that ironic?

[Ironman92]

Teixeira worries me

[Ironman92]

How is that a ball?????? WTH?

[Ironman92]

FOX messed up

[Ironman92]

Leake not missing over the plate, being very careful....but getting squeezed a touch

[RedsLvr]

Game day called 3 of those pitches strikes but the ump called em balls.

[Ironman92]

Glad the ump refused to call out Tex

[redsfaninbsg]

Ridiculous strike zone leads to a NYY run.

[RedsLvr]

The ump grooved em a run there

[villain612]

Good AB Jay

[Ironman92]

I'm going to watch the Reds bat then pause the tv and give Leake a chance. He won't survive the 4th if I watch it live, no clue why

[Larkin Fan]

The Reds had better watch their step the next three days. MLB's enforcer of unwritten rules, Brian McCann, is behind the platem

[Larkin Fan]

Ichiro hits an amazing ground ball to second.

[Red Raindog]

I had to Google that. Funny.

I'm old -- you == not so much


purple microdot -- Jefferson Airplane/Richie Havens + me --- been there

[Tom Servo]

Much better second frame for Leake.

[reds1869]

I love Ichiro, but Thom was drooling over him more than Tim Tebow.

[Tom Servo]

JalaPena!! :jump:

[dubc47834]

Pena baby!!!

[PepperJack]

Pena!!!!

[Larkin Fan]

Peña homers for Isabella. And the Reds!

[WrongVerb]

Pena!

[reds1869]

Nice to see Pena belt one.

[Tom Servo]

Thom Brennaman: "There is no love more unique than a father's love...for his little girl."

My dad (re-entering the room)"...What the hell is he talking about?"

[KittyDuran]

Thom Brennaman: "There is no love more unique than a father's love...for his little girl."

My dad (re-entering the room)"...What the hell is he talking about?"

Sounds creepy...

[Larkin Fan]

Sounds creepy...

It does!

[KronoRed]

My Mom (yankee fan) just called to ask me who the idiot in the booth for the Reds is :laugh:

[toledodan]

Frazier giving one to Jeter lol

[Gandalf the Red]

Am I misremembering, or was it two years ago that we were semi-frequently discussing the possibility of acquiring Ellsbury?

2013 Choo + 2014 Hamilton > Ellsbury

Sometimes I guess the best trades are the ones you don't make. (Not that Ellsbury has been a disaster or anything.)

[Tom Servo]

Sigh. 3-1 Yankees.

[toledodan]

5 hits in 2 2/3 isn't good Mike

[KronoRed]

Bad Leake alert!

[Tom Servo]

I miss Good Leake.

[villain612]

Sigh. 3-1 Yankees.


Go home, you're drunk

[jojo]

5 hits in 2 2/3 isn't good Mike

Kinda is Mike though.

[Red Raindog]

Sigh. 3-1 Yankees.

??

2-1

[toledodan]

Sigh. 3-1 Yankees.

2-1 don't make it worse :)

[tomnuetten]

My Mom (yankee fan) just called to ask me who the idiot in the booth for the Reds is :laugh:

sad but you can´t chose your parents :evil:

[AmarilloRed]

Not a good start for Leake, either way.

[Red Raindog]

Thom Brennaman: "There is no love more unique than a father's love...for his little girl."

My dad (re-entering the room)"...What the hell is he talking about?"

and did you know that McCann is finally hitting for the Yankees?

sadly I'm doing some work while watching so the sound is on --- ugh

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My Mom (yankee fan) just called to ask me who the idiot in the booth for the Reds is :laugh:

how did you answer?

[toledodan]

Cozart leadoff single

[Red Raindog]

hard to believe no one has mentioned the twin? blondes in the seats behind the plate

[villain612]

This ump sucks

[Mutaman]

Not a good start for Leake, either way.

At least he's pitching better than Strassburg

[Gandalf the Red]

and did you know that McCann is finally hitting for the Yankees?

At least Thom hasn't spent an inning interviewing McCann's mom.

The night is young, though.

[KronoRed]

how did you answer?

I told her that's Thom, he's never met a moment of silence he couldn't attempt to fill with 4000 words.

[villain612]

C'mon Jay.

How about a 3 run bomb.

[Tom Servo]

Go home, you're drunk


??

2-1



2-1 don't make it worse :)
Oh. Well then. No need to panic.

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/15/156597/2570030-6322802833-zqYpB.gif

[_Sir_Charles_]

Okay Jay....lift and separate!!!

[RedsLvr]

How about just a productive at bat Jay? I won't be greedy.

[Red Raindog]

How about just a productive at bat Jay? I won't be greedy.

I guess that qualifies for Jay so far this year

[villain612]

Thanks Jeter.

Tie game.

[Tom Servo]

thank you Yankees for this inning

[dubc47834]

Redszone not return from the break.....slow nite tonite!!!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Defense....the unheralded equalizer!

[reds1869]

Jesus with the E6. Jeter, I meant Jeter.

[Red Raindog]

come on Luddy --- this guy is not that good

[757690]

Jeter probably was expecting Mesoraco to not run that out, out of respect, you know.

[Red Raindog]

he might not be that good -- but it seems he's far better than Luddy tonight

[toledodan]

Ludwick can catch up with this guy? Awful

[villain612]

Ludwick has such a big, slow swing.

[Tom Servo]

I was hoping for more, but considering that inning should have been an easy one for NY, I'll take the tie game.

[toledodan]

2-2 middle of 4

[757690]

Funny, lots of loud outs, and seeing eye hits against Leake tonight.

[villain612]

Brewers beating the National 4-0 in the 4th

Rockies beating the Pirates 1-0 in the 3rd.

Dodgers and Cards just getting going

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yikes. That's a BALL?!? Pitch 2 to Gardner.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice easy inning for Mike.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Heisey flies out on the first pitch. No complaints from me on that. He just missed it.

[Red Raindog]

Ramon with the hit --

[miamiredskin]

"the Reds are being extra precautious..."

nice.

[Chuckie]

Our usual reserves are helping tonight! Base knock for Santiago. Man he's been good lately.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ramon strokes a single to right. 1 down, 1 on.

[villain612]

You can't stop Ramon. Can only hope to contain him.

[Tom Servo]

Not a banner night for Billy so far.

[tomnuetten]

I don´t know what we´ll do with brandon the moment he is healthy... he won´t accept the backup role

[Chuckie]

I wouldn't mind seeing them lock up Santiago for another year as the backup SS/2B. It's not like there's a better option on the cusp of being ready for MLB at Louisville (or even Pensacola for that matter).

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That always-crafty Cozart with a bunt single.

[redsfaninbsg]

Come on Frazier.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Not a fan of the strike zone tonight. Very inconsistent.

[villain612]

Whoa

[Tom Servo]

Not a banner night for Billy so far.
Frazier either.

[redsfaninbsg]

Awful at bat.

[Chuckie]

Frazier with kind of a poopy AB there. Oh well, I feel good about this game.

[Red Raindog]

now we're trying out reasons for why the Reds are getting it blown by them at 89 mph

[Redsfansince72]

cant belive Frazier didnt swing at that last pitch. strike 3 was in his wheel house

[Chuckie]

Wainwright wasn't enough? Now Leake is purposely giving up hits to Jeetah?

[Tom Servo]

Bad Leake

[Chuckie]

Great.

[villain612]

Mike is Leaking

[Gandalf the Red]

now we're trying out reasons for why the Reds are getting it blown by them at 89 mph

I expected this. Phelps was top-notch in my softball league last year.

[toledodan]

Lol leake

[Red Raindog]

might be the gun -- but it seems to me that Leake's velocity is down again

[Cedric]

Mike Leake should forever thank The Lord that he was put on a team with a great defense.. I guess average is better than 2005 staff though.

[miamiredskin]

Mediocre Leake tonight.

[Chuckie]

We get the Yankees at just the right time ... and Leake is still stinking up the joint.

Not to mention our offense blowing chances against this Triple-A pitcher for the Yanks. Still plenty of time though.

Leake just gave up a double to Beltran. Lol.

[Tom Servo]

that kind of night

[Tadasimha]

Lucks into a check swing against the shift

[villain612]

I hate the Yankees

[Chuckie]

OK, not terrible, 4-2 Yanks heading to the 6th.

[toledodan]

It's amazing what happens when you put bat on ball

[WrongVerb]

Anyone notice how Leake seems to get hit harder when he's pitching from the stretch?

[Tom Servo]

Not to mention our offense blowing chances against this Triple-A pitcher for the Yanks. Still plenty of time though.

Phelps is a solid pitcher. Not saying we shouldn't do more against him, we should, but he's not a 'Triple-A pitcher'.

[50YrRedsFan]

STL 1-0 over LA, top 2

[miamiredskin]

Fortunately, Billy and Todd have not yet begun to fight.

[redsfaninbsg]

Leake against lefties is a recipe for disaster. I figured the Reds would need a lot of runs to post a W tonight.

[villain612]

Fortunately, Billy and Todd have not yet begun to fight.

Are they napping at Walt's house?

[Chuckie]

Thom with an atrocious call there. "A DEEP FLY, LOOOOOONG INTO THE NIGHT.... uh, Ellsbury catches the ball at the front of the track, one out."

[WrongVerb]

"Deep into the night" to the middle of the warning track.

Was that Chris?

[miamiredskin]

Are they napping at Walt's house?

biding their time...

[Tadasimha]

So outside

[Red Raindog]

Luddy wants nothing to do with this guy and the pitcher can't wait to see Luddy

[villain612]

Team Booze is about to start drinking

[50YrRedsFan]

Tough to score when hitters 3-6 are 0 for 17.

[Red Raindog]

Team Booze is about to start drinking

just sitting down -- bottle on the table

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Tough to score when hitters 3-6 are 0 for 17.

and #1 is an 0-fer

[Redsfansince72]

Reds hitters look like they are still mostly on all star break still.. like they all flew across the country today and look tired at the plate..

[50YrRedsFan]

Just curious as to why Price started Leake tonight. Cueto would have had his normal rest if he started tonight.

[powersackers]

Mottola played 59 mlb games Chris.

[villain612]

Just curious as to why Price started Leake tonight. Cueto would have had his normal rest if he started tonight.

Good question.

Cueto is scheduled to pitch Sunday.

Both weekend games are day games, and Cueto is substantially better during day games.

Maybe that's it?

[Tom Servo]

JalaPena again!! :jump:

[Tadasimha]

Pena!

[villain612]

Pena!!!

Team Booze baby

[Gandalf the Red]

Wow. The sonnets Thom is writing between innings about Pena's unique love for his little girl are really starting to pay off.

[Red Raindog]

Deja Pena!

did the same fan catch that one too?

[WrongVerb]

Pena!!!!

No boozing tonight for me. Have to get up early and not be hung over tomorrow.

[villain612]

HR for Pena.

Single for Heisey.

C'mon Ramon!!!

[50YrRedsFan]

Time to get more

[Tom Servo]

"Delin Betances..."

*20 seconds of silence


The Reds broadcasters, everyone.

[villain612]

Paul O'Neill is actually really nice to listen to call a game.

[redsfaninbsg]

Not sure how that wasn't strike 3?

[Larkin Fan]

"Delin Betances..."

*20 seconds of silence


The Reds broadcasters, everyone.

Silence is golden when Thom is in the booth.

[50YrRedsFan]

PIT - COL 1-1, top 6

[Larkin Fan]

Paul O'Neill is actually really nice to listen to call a game.

In between innings he also teaches lessons on kicking baseballs from the outfield.

[50YrRedsFan]

MIL 4 - WSH 1, top 7

[Larkin Fan]

What time is tomorrow's episode of Everybody Loves Jeter?

[Ironman92]

How many times are they going to watch strike 3???

Not enjoyable too much but with a chance to win. Leake was far from great but was good enough. Frazier o'lay'd one leading to a run. Right before Ellsbury's HR they were playing Jeter up the middle??? Either Leake and Meso messed up by pitching it outside or the worst scouting report ever.

Cannot believe Bruce's ball didn't leave the park.

[Red Raindog]

What time is tomorrow's episode of Everybody Loves Jeter?

thought it was a marathon showing

[villain612]

Reds 1-6 are DUE.

Except Cozart. He's been money tonight :eek:

[Tom Servo]

:(

[PepperJack]

Leake has to pitch sometime, what's it matter whether it was tonight, or a different day this weekend.

[Larkin Fan]

:barf:

[Ironman92]

Anyone notice how Leake seems to get hit harder when he's pitching from the stretch?

I think they slow him down too much. There are several reasons they want you to slow down and focus....but IMO it helps take away Leake's ability of not letting the hitter get set and focused.

[Tom Servo]

Cozart didn't stand a chance.

[Red Raindog]

Leake has to pitch sometime, what's it matter whether it was tonight, or a different day this weekend.

true enough but I like to get him on the bump as much as possible + winning the 1st game of a set is a good thing in my book

[Raisor]

I highly dislike the Cincinnati USA commercials

[Ironman92]

Cozart didn't stand a chance.

That was really bad.

[villain612]

In fairness, Cozart had already used up his on base quota for the night.

Or the weekend.

[Chip R]

That pitcher for the Yankees just kind of danced off the mound after striking out Cozart. McCann will no doubt give him a severe talking to.

[_Sir_Charles_]

In fairness, Cozart had already used up his on base quota for the night.

Or the weekend.

In fairness....that guy was freaking NASTY.

[Gandalf the Red]

Every time Thom goes into one of his irrelevant anecdotes, it would be awesome if they cut away to a hamster running around in its cage.

[PepperJack]

true enough but I like to get him on the bump as much as possible + winning the 1st game of a set is a good thing in my book

I think they would prefer Cueto too, but they were talking about trimming his workload a little here and there, because of the IP pace he is on.

[villain612]

We might drop this game, but I really like the pitching matchups for the Reds the next two days.

[Ironman92]

We need good Todd

[Ironman92]

Pitcher is huge.... Anyone charging the mound on him may want to take their bat

[tomnuetten]

mhm only thing todd hit tonight was the camera man ...

[toledodan]

Paging Walt. Paging Walt.

[Tom Servo]

Betances looks untouchable tonight.

[Ironman92]

Frazier still on break....he's been Larson-ish

[villain612]

Looks like it will be up to Pena and Santiago to save us

[Ironman92]

Sam?

[Gandalf the Red]

Looks like it will be up to Pena and Santiago to save us

In that case, I hope Santiago's wife gives birth in the next 10 minutes.

[Ironman92]

World's smallest leash I hope

[Larkin Fan]

Every time Thom goes into one of his irrelevant anecdotes, it would be awesome if they cut away to a hamster running around in its cage.

We'd never see any of the game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Did you notice where Cozart fielded that? :O)

[Larkin Fan]

An amazing line out to left by Ichiro.

[Tom Servo]

Nice work by LeCure

[Larkin Fan]

In that case, I hope Santiago's wife gives birth in the next 10 minutes.

If it is to a baby girl, he's gonna be money.

[powersackers]

Last chance

[villain612]

Alright boys. Let's do this...

http://crossfittrue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/DSC_9113EditBWsmall.jpg

[Ironman92]

C'mon boys.... 1 time

[Larkin Fan]

Those damn Yankees are playing Sweet Home Alabama. Isn't that just weird?

[Ironman92]

Ludwick follows suit for the 3-5 hitters....terrible

[Chip R]

An amazing line out to left by Ichiro.

No ordinary player could have lined out like that.

[Larkin Fan]

An amazing catch by Ichiro on that pop out.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Uh, Walt? Some help in left please?

[powersackers]

Dylan Axelrod could do what Ludwick did tonight.

[Ironman92]

Heisey has no chance on this guy

[Gandalf the Red]

Dylan Axelrod could do what Ludwick did tonight.

I think David Axelrod could do what Ludwick did tonight.

[Larkin Fan]

Heisey has no chance on any guy

Fixed it for you.

[Tom Servo]

The legend of Ramon Santiago...

[Stray]

I would send Heisey

[Ironman92]

I continue to be baffled why Heisey ever gets a start

[Redsfansince72]

nice vet move by Ludwick, down 1 run 2 ball no strikes he swung at that like he was down 0 balls 2 strikes..GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[_Sir_Charles_]

Heisey has no chance on this guy

You were saying?

[Larkin Fan]

That damn Heisey proving everyone wrong again

[Cedric]

Walt needs to get to work. This is absurd.

[Ironman92]

Fixed it for you.

I was doing my reverse jinx crap.

[villain612]

Heisey hits. We're alive

[Tom Servo]

We're bad again


Win tomorrow

[Ironman92]

You were saying?

Do you guys not know me by now ?

[villain612]

Well this put me in a bad mood

[RedsLvr]

Walt needs to get to work. This is absurd.

What is absurd? Losing a baseball game? Relax guy, every team has done it this year.

[Ironman92]

The True Murders Row

Pena, Hesiey and Santiago a combined 5/12

Hamilton, Frazier, Bruce, Mesoraco and Ludwick 0-19

[toledodan]

Thanks walt. Short bench going to an American league park

[Tom Servo]

Yeah I'm not seeing what's absurd here. I do think some moves need to be made on position players, but there's time for that. We lost tonight because Leake didn't pitch too well and the hitters not named Pena didn't do squat.

[KronoRed]

Boo.

[Ironman92]

A lot of players looked to still be on break.

[Cedric]

What is absurd? Losing a baseball game? Relax guy, every team has done it this year.

More likely that the Reds have seemingly 100 pitchers on the roster and nobody to actually hit the ball. Injuries or not it's possible to actually find a decent baseball player and not to count on Negron, Soto, and Lutz types. That is an absurd bench.

And please don't attempt to tell me how to react to something I'm not your kid.

[Ironman92]

Thanks walt. No bench going to an American league park

FIFY

[Tom Servo]

Thanks Walt. We are a consistent 90+ win team due to your stupidity. And now we lost a game to the Yankees. Thanks.

[jojo]

The yanks aren't very good.

[toledodan]

FIFY

??

[villain612]

I'm gonna keep drinking, put on a movie, and forget this game ever happened.

[Cedric]

Thanks Walt. We are a consistent 90+ win team due to your stupidity. And now we lost a game to the Yankees. Thanks.

Are you a 100% or nothing guy? I really think Walt has done a good job overall but do not understand what he is doing with the roster right now.

[RedsLvr]

I just don't understand what people expect. We have a maxed out payroll and a depleted farm. And on the fact that there are not really any realistic targets for a good price and that means we'll probably stand pat. Why is it an expectation to have solid hitters 1-8? Has everyone forgotten how rare it is to have a balanced team offensively and defensively? It's pretty freaking rare, especially for a small market team like ourselves.

[Gandalf the Red]

Dear Mr. Piecoro,

Please don't use the phrase "smiling side of the scoreboard." Especially when you don't mean it in regard to the Reds. But even then, just don't.

[Falls City Beer]

This is probably not a 90 win team. Last year was though!

[Tom Servo]

Are you a 100% or nothing guy? I really think Walt has done a good job overall but do not understand what he is doing with the roster right now.
I don't know the plan either but I don't watch a game like this and think "Wow, the GM is such an idiot". I see Leake continuing to struggle and Hamilton, Frazier, and Rocco doing nothing. So we lost. It happens. Win tomorrow.

[Red Raindog]

Every time Thom goes into one of his irrelevant anecdotes, it would be awesome if they cut away to a hamster running around in its cage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fYTJ9v2vsaE

[Ironman92]

Heisey is 9/21 in his last 5 starts.

[Ironman92]

??

I think our bench is useless. "Short" is certainly correct but almost a compliment.

[Gandalf the Red]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fYTJ9v2vsaE

Thanks for that awesome symbolic representation of two brain cells in a titanic struggle for supremacy. :)

[Cedric]

I don't know the plan either but I don't watch a game like this and think "Wow, the GM is such an idiot". I see Leake continuing to struggle and Hamilton, Frazier, and Rocco doing nothing. So we lost. It happens. Win tomorrow.

This game is absolutely the kind of game where someone would come onto the game thread and voice their displeasure with the 100 pitchers on the roster and absolute garbage bench. The same bench that allowed Ramon Santiago to end a nine inning game without a bench bat being used.

I don't see what's so shocking about what I posted. I also never called the GM an idiot.

[Tom Servo]

I don't see what's so shocking about what I posted. I also never called the GM an idiot.
I don't think I quoted you or singled out your post.

[villain612]

Are you a 100% or nothing guy? I really think Walt has done a good job overall but do not understand what he is doing with the roster right now.

I'd like Walt to make a move and get a guy like Zobrist or something but tonight's loss couldn't be pinned on Walt.

Pena, Heisey, Santiago - guys that shouldn't be playing everyday and are the reason to get a Zobrist - actually produced today.

Hamilton, Frazier, Bruce, and Rocco all laid an egg tonight. That's why we lost. Unless you wanna replace one of them (or Mike Leake) then Walt is a non-factor tonight.

[Cedric]

I'd like Walt to make a move and get a guy like Zobrist or something but tonight's loss couldn't be pinned on Walt.

Pena, Heisey, Santiago - guys that shouldn't be playing everday and are the reason to get a Zobrist - actually produced today.

Hamilton, Frazier, Bruce, and Rocco all laid an egg tonight. That's why we lost. Unless you wanna replace one of them (or Mike Leake) then Walt is a non-factor tonight.

I don't really care about one game actually. I don't expect Mes, Bruce, and Hamilton to struggle like this obviously. I DO expect major troubles long term if he doesn't get to work and improve the bench in some meaningful way. It's not anyone's job but his to produce a roster with decent depth. You don't even have to give me anywhere near a very good player like Zobrist. Go out and work like Sandy Alderson and give me a 50 year old Bobby Abreu.

[Red Raindog]

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Fixed It For You

[Gandalf the Red]

Hamilton, Frazier, Bruce, and Rocco all laid an egg tonight. That's why we lost.

It's not that they laid an egg, but that they didn't love their daughters enough.

[toledodan]

It's not so much losing this game for me. It's frustrating with votto and Phillips out walt hasn't helped the club any.

[PepperJack]

I don't really care about one game actually. I don't expect Mes, Bruce, and Hamilton to struggle like this obviously. I DO expect major troubles long term if he doesn't get to work and improve the bench in some meaningful way. It's not anyone's job but his to produce a roster with decent depth. You don't even have to give me anywhere near a very good player like Zobrist. Go out and work like Sandy Alderson and give me a 50 year old Bobby Abreu.


Yeah, it would be sweet if the Reds could trade places with the Mets leadership right now.