Reds @ Marlins 8/1/2014 "Let's win 2 in a row" edition

[NebraskaRed]

Good guys:
Hamilton 8
Bruce 9
Frazier 3
Mesoraco 2
Ludwick 7
Schumaker 4
Negron 5
Cozart 6
"Dangling" Latos 1

Bad guys:
Yelich 7
Valdespin 4
Stanton 9
McGehee 5
Jones 3
Ozuna 8
Saltalamacchia 2
Hechavarria 6
Cosart 1

[Ironman92]

I loathe Frazier playing first. I like Negron's approach to hit it up the middle or oppo, but right now want Pena in there every day.

[CySeymour]

I loathe Frazier playing first. I like Negron's approach to hit it up the middle or oppo, but right now want Pena in there every day.

I'd rather Negron play second and let Skip sit.

[Kc61]

Santiago is the best guy to play second. Don't know what happened to him.

He's good at SS and second, not so good at third.

Skip should just play outfield not infield.

[Ironman92]

I'd rather Negron play second and let Skip sit.

Yeah, guess I was just omitting Skip because I knew he'd be in there today.

BHam 8
Frazier 5
Meso 2
Luddy 7
Bruce 9
Pena 3
Negron 4
Santiago 6

If I were in charge of the world today

[Red Raindog]

Santiago is the best guy to play second. Don't know what happened to him.

He's good at SS and second, not so good at third.

Skip should just play outfield not infield.

thought he got banged up some ---

[HokieRed]

Agree with KC. Can't see a guy sitting on this team who has a .347 OBP.

[reds44]

I'd just throw the best defensive lineup out there. Play Santiago at 3rd, Negron at 2nd, and go try to win 2-1.

[Ironman92]

I'd just throw the best defensive lineup out there. Play Santiago at 3rd, Negron at 2nd, and go try to win 2-1.

How is Santiago at 3rd the best defensive lineup?

[villain612]

"Dangling" Latos 1



This is a family board.

[NebraskaRed]

ctrent ‏@ctrent 4m
#Marlins put Sunday’s scheduled starter, Henderson Alvarez on the DL. Today’s previously scheduled starter, Jacob Turner, will start Sunday

Good news!

[klw]

"Dangling" Latos 1

Seeing this is Florida, shouldn't you be required to call him "Dangling Chad" Latos?

[_Sir_Charles_]

thought he got banged up some ---

Negron did on that late DP turn. Clearly not badly or he wouldn't be starting.

[Raisor]

This is a family board.

Stop stealing my gimmick

[Red Raindog]

Negron did on that late DP turn. Clearly not badly or he wouldn't be starting.

got it -- brain cramp --

[villain612]

Stop stealing my gimmick

But I'm a villain.

[PepperJack]

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro 7m
Something to watch tonight: McGehee went in hard on Negron at second last night. Will see if anything transpires #Marlins #Reds

[Ironman92]

My money says no. Negron had ample time to get out of the way to protect himself.

[NebraskaRed]

Miami Sports Network ‏@MiamiSportsNet 13m
@JoeFrisaro Just as curious to see Cozart's AB. Would NOT be surprised to see a pitch behind his back. Pulling up was cowardly.

Marlins fans hoping to see Cozart get hit by a pitch tonight.

Florida...

[villain612]

Marlins fans hoping to see Cozart get hit by a pitch tonight.

Florida...

Improving the OBP of the worst hitter on the team?

Sounds legit.

[Raisor]

But I'm a villain.

I am Groot

[powersackers]

Marlins fans hoping to see Cozart get hit by a pitch tonight.

Florida...

I guess they wanted to see spike marks on Mathis' s leg that was blocking the plate before he had the ball.

[westofyou]

@JoeFrisaro is a jerk

[villain612]

I am Groot

You.....complete.....me.

[tomnuetten]

long out to billy to end the inning...

if we win today we are on a winning streak, right? Right? :eek:

[powersackers]

That took less than 5 min.

[757690]

That took less than 5 min.

Reds found a way to speed games up... Suck at hitting.

[powersackers]

I think the Neilson rating for this thread is 0.0.

[klw]

Time for the Cosart/ Cozart showdown

[tomnuetten]

cozart loses the first battle against cosart... but not a bad ab for cozart

[klw]

Great 9 pitch AB by Cozart. Question of the night: will his other AB's total more or less than 9 pitches?

[oneupper]

I'll be optimistic and take the over.

[tomnuetten]

I´ll take the over aswell

[klw]

I will also take the over.

[tomnuetten]

I will also take the over.

I wouldn´t mind the under if he gets some hits though ;)

[Ironman92]

Stanton must not see it well right now....he 's had two pitches to kill and totally missed both

[klw]

Cosart with a hit made me go and look up the performance of pitchers hitting against the Reds. It feels like they are always getting key hits and walks to start off innings vs the Reds. Despite this the Reds are acting holding #9 hitters to the lowest BA and 2nd lowest OBP in the league. they are tied for 3rd most walks of the 9 hitter however.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/117/sort/opponentAvg/order/false

[klw]

ctrent ‏@ctrent 19m

In the same week we got Jumbo vs. Trumbo, we now get Cosart vs. Cozart. Dreams do come true #Reds #Marlins

[DocRed]

Cosart has a huge leg kick....should set up for a SB here.

[DocRed]

Nice job Jay! WB

[Ironman92]

Oppo

[Tadasimha]

Here we go!

[Red Raindog]

we have an oppo base hit from Mr. Bruce

[tomnuetten]

did bruce just hit a ball towards left field? :eek:

[tomnuetten]

back to back to back hits .... incredible :thumbup:

[Ironman92]

Another oppo

Hard to imagine not trying to hit home runs is being productive

[Ironman92]

Bruce improving his base running metrics

[Ironman92]

Skip with a Heisey fly

[Red Raindog]

Bruce improving his base running metrics

the Reds missed a chance to do serious damage --- ugh

[tomnuetten]

thought ludwick hit a fair ball... ump disagrees with me (couldn´t see it with the marlins review)
hard hit liner from luddy afterwards and schumaker being schumaker => only one run

[KittyDuran]

This is a family board.was trying to like this... And hit reply instead.

[Ironman92]

I make that Drew Stubbs catch SMH

[_Sir_Charles_]

thought ludwick hit a fair ball... ump disagrees with me (couldn´t see it with the marlins review)
hard hit liner from luddy afterwards and schumaker being schumaker => only one run

Same here. Nobody bothered to show a decent angle of it though.

[tomnuetten]

another good at bat from cozart.. looked like a hit but great play to get the out

[toledodan]

Cozart makes some awful outs but also hits into some tough luck.

[_Sir_Charles_]

For someone who's never put down a sac bunt before Cosart looked awfully good at it.

[toledodan]

Nice catch ludwick!

[Ironman92]

Luddy is a touch it catch it guy

[KronoRed]

That was funny.

[toledodan]

Yuck

[Tom Servo]

Man, I love him, but so far Latos is not looking like the same pitcher before injury.

[Ironman92]

Frazier with another error at first...ugh

[DocRed]

Wow that was a bad play by Frazier....

[DocRed]

Man, I love him, but so far Latos is not looking like the same pitcher before injury.

huh? Guy has a 3.31 ERA this year and a career 3.35 ERA....but if you are talking subjective measurements that cannot be argued then carry on.

[Ironman92]

Wow that was a bad play by Frazier....

Almost flung it over Cozart's head at 2nd

[Chuckie]

Latos is never smooth. It's like he's always laboring. He's good. I'm just saying he's never smooth.

Man I hope we re-sign Cueto and trade Latos for some good prospects.

[toledodan]

My only problem with Matt is maturity.

[Tom Servo]

huh? Guy has a 3.31 ERA this year and a career 3.35 ERA....but if you are talking subjective measurements that cannot be argued then carry on.
The lack of strikeouts since his return are starting to concern me.

[KronoRed]

Frazier - 3B...write it in stone.

[Chuckie]

FoxTrax had that as strike 3. Jeezus.

[DocRed]

MLB umps are the WORST in all of sports....again.

[toledodan]

Umpire missed another

[Tom Servo]

oh jesus christ

[toledodan]

My God

[Red Raindog]

Frazier - 3B...write it in stone.

this -- and after that play - this again

[KronoRed]

Time to argue, good time to refill your drinks.

[Tom Servo]

challenge it

[toledodan]

He's out

[Chuckie]

He should have been called out. Reds are challenging.

Also: Latos is a headcase.

[DocRed]

MLB umps are an embarrassment to sports....fire them all please.

[tomnuetten]

he´s out

[toledodan]

Miami fans will riot

[DocRed]

How do these clowns continue to collect a paycheck?

[Chuckie]

Bryan Price and Phil Mickelson look like each other.

OUT!

[757690]

Will miracles never cease? The reply umps got the call right.

[toledodan]

Love replay :)

[DocRed]

Bryan Price and Phil Mickelson look like each other.

OUT!
Noticed that too LOL

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Love replay :)

MLB umps don't...exposes them for how bad they are.

[malcontent]

What happened? Did the 3B playing 1B make yet another costly error?

[KronoRed]

Miami fans will riot

Who?:D

[Kingspoint]

Will miracles never cease? The reply umps got the call right.

"The reply umps"?

Aren't those called moderators?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hang on a second. Did I just see what I think I saw? The replay was handled in a quick and efficient manner AND they got the call right? Wow.

[tomnuetten]

He should have been called out. Reds are challenging.

Also: Latos is a headcase.

mhm I can understand him... if you know that you made the play and the umpire fails I would be angry too


and for all who think that replay is bad (because of false decisions in new york...) I´m happy that they get the obvious calls (like this) right..

[757690]

Got to give the reply umps credit on that play. They ruled quickly and correctly.

[Ironman92]

MLB umps are the WORST in all of sports....again.

Sorry, just flat out wrong. NBA is unwatchable and NFL are terribly inconsistent.

[Chuckie]

I like that Price is talking to Latos about it (and not just pretending like Latos didn't about lose his mind).

[Ironman92]

WHIP may be more telling of a pitcher....but ERA is more important

[DocRed]

Sorry, just flat out wrong. NBA is unwatchable and NFL are terribly inconsistent.

Disagree completely. NBA and football refs have multiple things to look at...MLB umps have 1 thing to look at and they suck at it.

[Ironman92]

I like that Price is talking to Latos about it (and not just pretending like Latos didn't about lose his mind).

Turn around to check the runner....call time, then complain.

[Ironman92]

Disagree completely. NBA and football refs have multiple things to look at...MLB umps have 1 thing to look at and they suck at it.

Let's agree to disagree wholeheartedly

[Ironman92]

Bruce is on it running the bases lol

[tomnuetten]

I like what I see from bruce tonight!

[DocRed]

3 run jack coming

[Ironman92]

I like what I see from bruce tonight!

Offensively

[toledodan]

Bases juiced

[757690]

Lovely AB by Mesoraco.

[757690]

Ludwick has had some ugly AB's this year with the bases loaded.

[Tom Servo]

You can't stop Ryan Ludwick.

[toledodan]

Ludwick!

[Ironman92]

Fire hot are the Reds

[Chuckie]

Luddy Dati, we like to party!

4-1 Reds on the sac fly. Boom.

[tomnuetten]

niiiiiiiiiice

ludwick :beerme:

[757690]

Magdal is smiling somewhere.

[toledodan]

Pile on

[Tom Servo]

Sac fly, 4-1 Redlegs

[Ironman92]

Skip's power was useful this time

[toledodan]

Schu man rbi

[tomnuetten]

Ludwick has had some ugly AB's this year with the bases loaded.

he is 4 of 9 this season in bases loaded situations with 8 rbi´s... that´s not that bad

[Ironman92]

Big man

[_Sir_Charles_]

Mike Stanton should've had that...jogged after it. Had to double time it after he realized it was going to fall.

[Chuckie]

Atta boy Giancarlo. My fantasy team doesn't need you diving for foul balls. Especially against the Reds. ;)

[757690]

Stanton is a terrible fielder. Or he hates playing for the Marlins and doesn't care.

[Ironman92]

he is 4 of 9 this season in bases loaded situations with 8 rbi´s... that´s not that bad

He said "some"

Maybe he was doing one of my reversies

[Chuckie]

Inning over. 4-1 Redlegs.

[toledodan]

4-1 mid 6

[Chuckie]

Stanton is a terrible fielder. Or he hates playing for the Marlins and doesn't care.

He's not a terrible OF. He just cares about his fantasy owners.

[757690]

he is 4 of 9 this season in bases loaded situations with 8 rbi´s... that´s not that bad

Thanks. He's still has some ugly AB's with bases loaded. Glad to see he's had more good ones :)

[tomnuetten]

Thanks. He's still has some ugly AB's with bases loaded. Glad to see he's had more good ones :)

I agree he had some ugly ab´s.. in that regard he reminds me a bit of frazier, sometimes they look really really bad.

but it doesn´t make much difference if you´re looking good or terrible while recording an out

[Ironman92]

Mike Stanton should've had that...jogged after it. Had to double time it after he realized it was going to fall.

That's pretty much how he runs....very long strides and they aren't quick. If he runs faster he still can't get there fast enough to catch that safely....of he runs a bit faster and catches that he probably gets hurt.

CarGo just made an outstanding catch like that about 20 min ago....he laid there and eventually hobbled off the field.

I'm not convinced Stanton thought that ball had a chance of staying in, after his first few steps I really believe that's bout as fast as he is....but his first few steps were long and slow

[toledodan]

Good inning Matt

[toledodan]

In Tampa.. longoria rounds first runs into umpire and is thrown out at second.

[Ironman92]

In Tampa.. longoria rounds first runs into umpire and is thrown out at second.

Doc is smiling

[toledodan]

Latos clogging the bases for Billy

[Ironman92]

Glad Cueto is transitioning to being able to speak English

[toledodan]

Billy follows latos hit with one himself

[toledodan]

Bruce grounded out to first. Second and third two down Frazier up

[toledodan]

Frazier k's looking. 4-1 mid 7

[Krawhitham]

NO BP, JUST NO

Every time he plays hurt he is worse that even the crappy bench players they currently have

[_Sir_Charles_]

IMO, the Reds offense looks pretty darned solid tonight. Good ab's from lots of guys.

[Tom Servo]

YOLO

[Chuckie]

Welsh just dropped a YOLO on Kelch.

[Ironman92]

Creepin in South Beach

[KronoRed]

The hell were they talking about?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Something about Marty falling asleep at a south beach night club. Someone tattooed "YOLO" on his neck.

At least I think that's what I heard.

[Chuckie]

Atta boy Stanton! Er, I mean, dammit.

(Fantasy issues, yo.)

[JMO]

Latos was pulled why?

[Larkin Fan]

Should have left Latos in. Lol

[toledodan]

Stanton homer 4-2

[Ironman92]

Latos was pulled why?

Not sure....I wouldn't guess he would admit he was maybe gassed but who knows.

Price likes to keep his starters in there extra....so I'll guess it was Latos

[Ironman92]

Would hate watching Stanton everyday in GABP

[BCubb2003]

Yolo tengo.

[Ironman92]

Call the ball better Billy

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jeezus Schumaker! If they're both calling it, it's Billy's ball. Nearly a disaster.

[KronoRed]

Chris....you are not a night club type of guy, leave that crap to Thom and Marty.

[Chuckie]

Kelch sounds like he would be a blast at parties.

[Tom Servo]

http://omgreds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/welsh-467x500.jpg

[_Sir_Charles_]

Kelch sounds like he would be a blast at parties.

Kelch sounds like he's grown out of the night club scene....as should everyone over 40.

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http://omgreds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/welsh-467x500.jpg

Is that where Miami got the design idea for that monstrosity in centerfield?

[KronoRed]

Kelch sounds like he's grown out of the night club scene....as should everyone over 25.

Fixed that for you.

[Ironman92]

Kelch sounds like he would be a blast at parties.

Wouldn't have to worry about him drinking all the good drinks

[toledodan]

Kelch sounds like he's grown out of the night club scene....as should everyone over 40.

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Is that where Miami got the design idea for that monstrosity in centerfield?
Speak for yourself lol

[_Sir_Charles_]

Broxton's ERA has skyrocketed to 1.16 with that dinger.

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Speak for yourself lol

I was. *grin*

And Krono...I was initially going to type 25. Dead serious. Thought it might offend people though...and then hell, 40 bugged someone. :O)

[Chuckie]

That was a perfect inning for my interests. Stanton gets a HR, but Brox retires everyone else.

Gear up the Cuban Missile and let's get ourselves a 2-game winning streak.

[villain612]

This just in: Stanton is really good.

[Ironman92]

The baseball fan in me would like to see Stanton catch one of those 103 mph fastballs ....I feel it would resemble this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM39m22jH4

[_Sir_Charles_]

Heisey just missed one. Bomb into center off the wall.

[Tom Servo]

Let's just never start Heisey in any games, deal?

[Chuckie]

Heisey Balls with a double off the CF wall.

[Ironman92]

415 ft double for Heisey

[Ironman92]

Damn he's good at SS

[Chuckie]

This Marlins SS can play some ball.

[toledodan]

Heisey just missed one. Bomb into center off the wall.

Hit it a long way

[PepperJack]

Let's just never start Heisey in any games, deal?

I don't get how he looks soo much better as a PH.

[Chuckie]

5-2 Reds on the wild pitch.

[_Sir_Charles_]

WP plates Hi-C! 5-2 Reds.

This just in....Salty is horrible.

[Tom Servo]

This Marlins SS can play some ball.
Not much of a hitter tho

[toledodan]

Heisey scores on wp or pb

[Chuckie]

Not much of a hitter tho

This is true.

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Actually a passed ball (not a WP).

[mbgrayson]

Tonight is the first game since the All Star break that the Reds have scored 5 or more runs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Actually a passed ball (not a WP).

Well deserved. He's got some of the worst fundamental techniques back there that I've seen in quite a while.

[Chuckie]

Let's get back over .500 and then see what happens. The second wildcard really opens everything up. I'm actually not a fan of it, but this year (and last year) it helps the Reds.

[Chuckie]

Missile is Missiling.

[Ironman92]

Not much of a hitter tho

Zack says hi

[villain612]

It's amazing that this team is still in a playoff hunt.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cargo injured again. Dude is made out of glass. For those who were wanting to add him...please no.

[Chuckie]

Watching Chapman is a treat. We probably don't talk about that enough.

Base hit for the Marlins' SS. But whateves. Missile is so much fun to watch.

[Tom Servo]

It's amazing that this team is still in a playoff hunt.
Sometimes you just know

[Larkin Fan]

The Cuban Missile cannot be stopped. No worries on that hit.

[Ironman92]

Cargo injured again. Dude is made out of glass. For those who were wanting to add him...please no.

Made out of glass lol....did you see what he did to catch that ball. Outstanding play that you love to see but hate to see your stars attempt.

[Chuckie]

Well deserved. He's got some of the worst fundamental techniques back there that I've seen in quite a while.

No question.

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"And this one belongs to the Reds!"

[Tom Servo]

Yesiree!


We're still good! :beerme:

[_Sir_Charles_]

And this one belongs to the Reds. Solid game all around boys. Nice pitching, nice hitting, nice baserunning, nice defense. :clap: :clap: :clap: Let's see more of that please.

[BCubb2003]

Watching Chapman is a treat. We probably don't talk about that enough.

Base hit for the Marlins' SS. But whateves. Missile is so much fun to watch.

One team has both Chapman and Hamilton.

[klw]

Zack says hi

And in case it was not mentioned while I was away, Zack did get the over. By my count he faced 10 pitches in his last three at bats thus topping his 9 pitch first AB

[_Sir_Charles_]

Made out of glass lol....did you see what he did to catch that ball. Outstanding play that you love to see but hate to see your stars attempt.

No, I didn't. But he's on the DL more than anybody I can remember.

[powersackers]

Good game. We're back! ?

[Mutaman]

Your 2014 Reds: Good starting pitching, two great relief pitchers, and the much maligned Ryan Ludwig knocking in a key run or two once in awhile.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Made out of glass lol....did you see what he did to catch that ball. Outstanding play that you love to see but hate to see your stars attempt.

Yes I did just watch it...and I'm even MORE confused. He slid into the wall with his LEFT foot, the right foot was tucked under him as he slid into the wall. As he comes up, he's clutching his RIGHT foot/ankle. Nice catch, but he hurt his ankle sliding...not hitting the wall. Watch it again. As I said...glass.

[villain612]

Let's just get into the playoffs boys. Anything can happen.

I'd take Johnny Cueto in a one game playoff against anyone this year.

[Ironman92]

No, I didn't. But he's on the DL more than anybody I can remember.

That's fine but find the video. He slid full speed into the wall and busted up his ankle....it surely was nothing ordinary.

I know what you mean with his DL trips but seeing the great highlight play and effort I just thought the "made of glass comment" wasn't fair to a guy who sold out to make a great play....while being on a crappy team.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That's fine but find the video. He slid full speed into the wall and busted up his ankle....it surely was nothing ordinary.

I know what you mean with his DL trips but seeing the great highlight play and effort I just thought the "made of glass comment" wasn't fair to a guy who sold out to make a great play....while being on a crappy team.

2 posts up bud. I did watch it. He didn't bust up his ankle sliding into the wall. He hit the wall with his left...then grabbed his right. The right didn't touch anything but his butt and the ground as he slid.

[Ironman92]

2 posts up bud. I did watch it. He didn't bust up his ankle sliding into the wall. He hit the wall with his left...then grabbed his right. The right didn't touch anything but his butt and the ground as he slid.

Announcer fooled me with ankle as his other foot hit looking to injur that ankle....I'll ask you to watch again and his leg that was ticked under him caught a lot of pressure as well and can't tell if that concrete is raised up a few inches....if so his ankle/shin likely busted it.

Regardless, still don't think made of glass works on that play....and he's not on the DL yet either.

[Ironman92]

Here is a pic of the concrete that is a couple inches off the ground....I think his right ankle/lower leg could've hit it darn hard.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/ra3uheve.jpg

[villain612]

Nationals lose. Pirates, Cards, and Braves all losing.

[PepperJack]

Nationals lose. Pirates, Cards, and Braves all losing.


7696

[Ironman92]

Glass missed 2 games....go ahead HR tonight