8/3/14 Reds at Marlins

[Ironman92]

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[Ironman92]

Skip finds his way into the lineup.

[Ironman92]

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The bottom of MLB and he and Cabrera are well below the rest.

Skip finds his way in at .595

Cozart can at least field it...Skip is rangeless and can't hit.

If you always lived up to the back of your baseball card....a lot of players would never lose playing time or even retire. Hopefully he can get two more singles today to vault himself over that prestigious .600 line.

[Kc61]

In defense of Reds and Schumaker he has been a consistent OBP guy before this season. No power, but the Reds had the right to expect a .325-35 OBP off the bench. Hasn't worked out, but maybe he'll get it going.

Cozart is a real difficult case. Looks like a GG year at shortstop, whether he actually wins it or not.

Still, 550 to 600 PAs at .552 OPS is tough for any lineup in the NL.

[Ironman92]

In defense of Reds and Schumaker he has been a consistent OBP guy before this season. No power, but the Reds had the right to expect a .325-35 OBP off the bench. Hasn't worked out, but maybe he'll get it going.

Cozart is a real difficult case. Looks like a GG year at shortstop, whether he actually wins it or not.

Still, 550 to 600 PAs at .552 OPS is tough for any lineup in the NL.

The "off the bench" part is my main beef. He starts as much as Ludwick.

[Chuckie]

Quality AB there from Jay.

[Ironman92]

Good start.

[Ironman92]

Quality AB there from Jay.

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All year

[Chuckie]

Frazier with a sharp single to left.

[toledodan]

Frazier a two out single

[Tom Servo]

A hit in the first inning. Is that allowed?

[Ironman92]

Yay Todd

[Tom Servo]

lol reds

[Chuckie]

Hey, a baserunning blunder!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2014 Cincinnati Reds!

[Ironman92]

This team...

[toledodan]

This team is hard to watch

[WrongVerb]

Everyone's on to your first-pitch "trick" Todd. Time to change it up.

[Ironman92]

Hey, a baserunning blunder!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2014 Cincinnati Reds!

It took a while....DEEP (my Thom voice) into the game

[Stray]

My day is never complete till a Red gets thrown out on the bases.

[Ironman92]

This team is hard to watch

Wait until Leake gives up 11 hits in 3 2/3 innings

[Chuckie]

I can't believe Steve Smith gave him the "Steal before the pitcher begins his delivery" sign.

[BCubb2003]

First-inning TOOTBLAN.

[Ironman92]

My day is never complete till a Red gets thrown out on the bases.

Well then your day was complete at 1:13 pm

[Chuckie]

My day is never complete till a Red gets thrown out on the bases.

You've had a lot of complete days this summer.

[757690]

Price argued that the reason to be aggressive on the as sparks is to make up for the team not hitting. But if the team isn't getting on base, how does getting thrown out on the base paths help?

[Chuckie]

Leake walks the leadoff hitter. This game is off to an excellent start.

[Ironman92]

Yelich has a good approach for a leadoff hitter

[kbrake]

Price argued that the reason to be aggressive on the as sparks is to make up for the team not hitting. But if the team isn't getting on base, how does getting thrown out on the base paths help?

Yeah the whole aggressive thing is nice in theory but getting burned over and over and over and over is just plain stupid. Price really needs to make an adjustment on his base running philosophy.

[Ironman92]

Leake walks the leadoff hitter. This game is off to an excellent start.

Look for some defensive issues today as well

[Tom Servo]

Always a good idea to walk guys when you are 'pitch to contact' pitcher.

[Ironman92]

Billy has been good at not getting out on the bases since the break.... Of course he's only reached base twice

[tomnuetten]

I´m not a fan of aggressive (sometimes dumb) baserunning and I doubt I ever will...

[Ironman92]

Brandon come back

[toledodan]

Price argued that the reason to be aggressive on the as sparks is to make up for the team not hitting. But if the team isn't getting on base, how does getting thrown out on the base paths help?

Yeah but it's also hard to get 3 hits in a inning fot this team. Really a no win situation.

[Ironman92]

LB's aren't 6'5-6'6

[Ironman92]

Just pitch like that Mike

[Tony Cloninger]

In defense of Reds and Schumaker he has been a consistent OBP guy before this season. No power, but the Reds had the right to expect a .325-35 OBP off the bench. Hasn't worked out, but maybe he'll get it going.

Cozart is a real difficult case. Looks like a GG year at shortstop, whether he actually wins it or not.

Still, 550 to 600 PAs at .552 OPS is tough for any lineup in the NL.



This is the same thing we at least expected from Jackie H....... at least SOME of what he used to produce.

Walt has to be the unluckiest GM in baseball to keep signing these guys as they are about to fall into the abyss. I mean even Wilson valdez got worse than before.

Only Miguel Cairo has worked out X 10 for him. Pena as well, although not as much but still good there.

[Ironman92]

This is the same thing we at least expected from Jackie H....... at least SOME of what he used to produce.

Walt has to be the unluckiest GM in baseball to keep signing these guys as they are about to fall into the abyss. I mean even Wilson valdez got worse than before.

Only Miguel Cairo has worked out X 10 for him. Pena as well, although not as much but still good there.

Santiago is fine.... Higher OPS and can actually play defense

[toledodan]

No damage done. Going to inning 2

[tomnuetten]

in 45 minutes I can enjoy baseball at the computer and baseball on tv (moneyball is shown in german tv :thumbup: )

[Tony Cloninger]

Santiago is fine.... Higher OPS and can actually play defense


Good call. I forgot about him. We thought he would be almost Wilson Valdez Part II, but he actually deserves more PT than Cozart. Skip deserves none and his True Grit needs to be put to rest.

[Ironman92]

in 45 minutes I can enjoy baseball at the computer and baseball on tv (moneyball is shown in german tv :thumbup: )

Just watched it the other day

[Ironman92]

Reds starters have 2 XBH this series

[toledodan]

Reds starters have 2 XBH this series

Partly the reason to be more aggressive on the bases.

[Ironman92]

Stanton jogging again

[Tom Servo]

jesus f. christ on a stick, how did he catch that

[Ironman92]

Partly the reason to be more aggressive on the bases.

That's why I posted it

[Ironman92]

Negron has a far better approach at the plate than most other Reds

[Tom Servo]

Cozart does something! 1-0 Reds!

[DocRed]

Price?

[Ironman92]

This pitcher is terrible

Glad Cozy did something...man I wish Stanton hadn't gone all gold glove on us

[Ironman92]

Price?

He's telling them what you think

[Tom Servo]

Negron has a far better approach at the plate than most other Reds
I don't expect it to last, but while he's hot I'd be starting Negron every day.

[toledodan]

Negron has some nice opposite field pop.

[Chip R]

Skip deserves none and his True Grit needs to be put to rest.

How do you bench the Heart and Hustle award winner? ;)

[Ironman92]

I don't expect it to last, but while he's hot I'd be starting Negron every day.

He looks vulnerable up and in....but love his approach to just hit it hard where it's pitched

[Ironman92]

Grit fell short on the rules

[Chip R]

jesus f. christ on a stick, how did he catch that

I was under the impression he played poor defense.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Miami trolling Reds' offense with that ad behind home plate.

[Tom Servo]

Yesiree!

[Ironman92]

Miami trolling Reds' offense with that add behind home plate.

?

[BluegrassRedleg]

?

For a while, they had an ad board up for a casino whose name ended with "sukee."

[Ironman92]

I was under the impression he played poor defense.

He's just gigantic and "lumbery".....stiff runner and not fluid. Takes HUGE strides.

I'd call his defense around average for RF

[Ironman92]

For a while, they had an ad board up for a casino whose name ended with "sukee."

Just couldn't get there....saw it as a knock against Rose maybe

[BluegrassRedleg]

Just couldn't get there....saw it as a knock against Rose maybe

Oh. Ha. Didn't even consider that. :p

[Tony Cloninger]

How do you bench the Heart and Hustle award winner? ;)


With a Patton like speech. :evil:


I am happy Cozart finally pulled a pitch into a hit.

[Ironman92]

SB #43

Now get a hit!....or 4

[Ironman92]

With a Patton like speech. :evil:


I am happy Cozart finally pulled a pitch into a hit.

I think Negron has more oppo hits than Cozy

[Tom Servo]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce

[toledodan]

Bruce!

[tomnuetten]

SB #43

Now get a hit!....or 4

back to back flyouts are more realistic ;)

[Ironman92]

Beautiful...beautiful. Hit it hard where it's pitched.

[Chip R]

He's just gigantic and "lumbery".....stiff runner and not fluid. Takes HUGE strides.

I'd call his defense around average for RF

He looks good to me out there. Some team is going to make him a very rich young man one of these days.

[dougdirt]

Copying this from twitter:


Marty just said he didn't think Stanton had a "Chinaman's chance" of catching that ball.

Thoughts?

[Tony Cloninger]

Copying this from twitter:



Thoughts?



Poor choice of words there Batman.

[toledodan]

Bruce a steal

[DocRed]

MLB needs to do something about this cat and mouse game of appealing or no appealing. An appeal needs to be immediate.

[Tony Cloninger]

I cried inside when I saw Hamilton get a hit...steal a base and then Bruce go the other way for the perfect hit. I cried inside.

[Tom Servo]

Copying this from twitter:



Thoughts?
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[tomnuetten]

Copying this from twitter:



Thoughts?

I don´t get it :help:

[Tony Cloninger]

Copying this from twitter:



Thoughts?


China's answer?

"We can buy and sell a Thom Brenneman any day of the week"

[dougdirt]

I don´t get it :help:

That is generally accepted to be a derogatory term towards an entire group of people.

[toledodan]

Bruce at third one out

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hechavaria can pick it. Color me impressed with his glove.

[WrongVerb]

Copying this from twitter:



Thoughts?

I heard that when he said it and thought "oops." Probably won't come to anything more than an on-air apology. Besides, I've never heard Marty say anything that even comes close to a racial comment and I've been listening to him for more than 30 years.

[Tom Servo]

I heard that when he said it and thought "oops." Probably won't come to anything more than an on-air apology. Besides, I've never heard Marty say anything that even comes close to a racial comment and I've been listening to him for more than 30 years.
Not a racial comment, but there was the 'Bataan Death March' from several years ago.

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two out double from Luddy!

3-0 Redlegs

[Ironman92]

Hechavaria can pick it. Color me impressed with his glove.

Incredible range, insane glove, unbelievably quick release and strong arm

[tomnuetten]

That is generally accepted to be a derogatory term towards an entire group of people.

ok thanks, I didn´t understand it...

luuuuuudwick :-)

[toledodan]

Ludwick two out rbi double 3-0

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice! RBI double for Ludwick.

[Ironman92]

Hmmm.... Luddy hit it hard where it's pitched. It works, keep plugging away boys.

[Ironman92]

I grew up on Caray and Pete Van Weiren

[kaldaniels]

That is generally accepted to be a derogatory term towards an entire group of people.

What would you like to happen?

[Gandalf the Red]

Nice! RBI double for Ludwick.

"Come on, Yankees: You want him on that bench. You need him on that bench!"

(/Nicholson voice)

[tomnuetten]

What would you like to happen?

apology and someone should force him to spent some money towards a organisation fighting racism... (I don´t know how racist the term was because I didn´t understand it etc...) => but those things wouldn´t hurt anyway ;)

[Ironman92]

Here come the Fish

[Tom Servo]

Jeff Mathis sucks, stop getting burned by him.

[toledodan]

Alright leake you have a lead. Don't suck

[Ironman92]

Fish got lucky....can't believe he bobbled that. 2 run miscue

[Tom Servo]

ugh, just take the damn out they're giving you.

[Ironman92]

Jeff Mathis sucks, stop getting burned by him.

He pulled that low and outside pitch a lot farther thn I thought he could.

[tomnuetten]

remember the days leake could hit and field :devil:

[Tony Cloninger]

What would you like to happen?

Have China buy the Reds and fire Thom.

[Ironman92]

Yelich is pesky

[Tom Servo]

and a walk to Yelich, again

this is horrible

[toledodan]

Dear Lord

[Ironman92]

Do NOT play the IF in

[757690]

The role of Homer Bailey is being played by Mike Leake today. Getting a lead and then giving it back the next inning.

[Chip R]

The Marlins are so cheap they have high school kids playing for them.

[Ironman92]

and a walk to Yelich, again

this is horrible

He's taking the Tom Glavine approach

[Ironman92]

Big field scares me here

[toledodan]

It will be a miracle if we have the lead after this inning

[Ironman92]

I hate how much Leake slows down with runners on....takes away part of his game

[Ironman92]

Frazier got cleated

[Tom Servo]

Out at home, I thought Frazier could have stepped on first beforehand. But I'll take it.

[toledodan]

Got the force at home

[Ironman92]

Out at home, I thought Frazier could have stepped on first beforehand. But I'll take it.

Looked like it...a bit unlucky

[BluegrassRedleg]

That expression is certainly outdated, but I don't see the derogatory part. Historically, it was born out of a bad time for Chinese people trying to make their way in the U.S., but it wasn't intended to be demeaning, was it?

[Ironman92]

Imagine the 3rd baseman being a little off on footwork at 1st

[dougdirt]

What would you like to happen?

An apology would be a good place to start.

[Ironman92]

Did he even touch the base? I'm for Redmond getting ticked again.

[BluegrassRedleg]

They're gonna get Frazier DL'd playing him at first. Good lord, that was horrific footwork.

[dougdirt]

The role of Homer Bailey is being played by Mike Leake today. Getting a lead and then giving it back the next inning.

The guy who gave up 1 run yesterday is your example of a failure?

[Tony Cloninger]

That expression is certainly outdated, but I don't see the derogatory part. Historically, it was born out of a bad time for Chinese people trying to make their way in the U.S., but it wasn't intended to be demeaning, was it?

Kind of like Indian Giver? Because the Indian gave so many things to the white settlers but then took it back from them, of course. I always thought it should be European Taker Backers

[Ironman92]

Do the Reds have a first base guy in their entire organization that can stretch towards the throw and using the tip of their shoe allowing a longer stretch

[WrongVerb]

Didn't Bench used to throw and hit the runner going to first in that situation to get the interference call?

[Tom Servo]

Our recent luck on challenges comes to an end. Bases loaded, 1 out.

[Ironman92]

Walk Stanton

[toledodan]

Big batter

[Ironman92]

Dolphins in danger

[WrongVerb]

Oh, and Jim Palmer never gave up a grand slam in his career, because in this situation he'd just pitch around the dangerous hitter.

[Tom Servo]

Walk Stanton
Bob Boone, that you?

[WildcatFan]

10 rows behind the Reds dugout today. I like Marlins Park a lot.

[Tony Cloninger]

They're gonna get Frazier DL'd playing him at first. Good lord, that was horrific footwork.


Exactly. Enough of this already. Negron or Santaigo (platoon?) at 2B Frazier at 3B.... someone else to play 1B

[KronoRed]

An apology would be a good place to start.

That will be the day.

[757690]

The guy who gave up 1 run yesterday is your example of a failure?

He never had the lead yesterday ;)

[Tom Servo]

and you guys wanted to walk Stanton:mooner:

[toledodan]

Nicely done leake. One more

[Ironman92]

Bob Boone, that you?

Wait

[_Sir_Charles_]

Big K!

[Tony Cloninger]

Great work to get him. Putrid swing helped.

[dougdirt]

That expression is certainly outdated, but I don't see the derogatory part. Historically, it was born out of a bad time for Chinese people trying to make their way in the U.S., but it wasn't intended to be demeaning, was it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_%28term%29#Controversy

[toledodan]

Miracle :)

[Tom Servo]

And from bases loaded no outs, the Marlins can't score a run. Mercy!

[Ironman92]

An apology would be a good place to start.

He's sorry Chinamen aren't notoriously known for having great range in RF

[kbrake]

It will be a miracle if we have the lead after this inning

What is it considered after not giving up even a single run? :)

[WrongVerb]

Bases loaded and nobody out and they don't score? Who does this Miami team think they are? The Reds?

[757690]

That expression is certainly outdated, but I don't see the derogatory part. Historically, it was born out of a bad time for Chinese people trying to make their way in the U.S., but it wasn't intended to be demeaning, was it?

The full phrase is "Chinaman's chance in Hell." So the original source is very derogatory. Not sure Marty know that, though.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Fantastic job to escape that Mike. Well done and way to stay composed.

[Gandalf the Red]

And from bases loaded no outs, the Marlins can't score a run. Mercy!

The Marlins just did an Oscar-worthy impression of the Reds.

[Ironman92]

The role of Homer Bailey is being played by Mike Leake today. Getting a lead and then giving it back the next inning.


Big field scares me here


It will be a miracle if we have the lead after this inning


Walk Stanton


Dolphins in danger

Nicely done everyone. Teamwork!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Kind of like Indian Giver? Because the Indian gave so many things to the white settlers but then took it back from them, of course. I always thought it should be European Taker Backers

But that's kind of making an allegation/stereotype, so there's a negative connotation. The other is just saying "no chance."

[BCubb2003]

I think every organization should take a modest-hitting good-glove middle infielder and train him to play every position. Anticipate the need.

[KronoRed]

10 rows behind the Reds dugout today. I like Marlins Park a lot.

Does it seem as dark there as on TV? looks like a night game.

[dougdirt]

The full phrase is "Chinaman's chance in Hell." So the original source is very derogatory. Not sure Marty know that, though.

Ignorance in usage doesn't mean there shouldn't be an apology though. I'd like to know that there was one.

[Tom Servo]

nice SB for Negron

[Chip R]

I liked all the RISP love the Reds announcers are throwing McGehee's way. Last night he came up in a situation with RISP and he flied out. This time with the bases loaded he grounds out.

[toledodan]

Keep running

[Ironman92]

Leake with a Heisey

[_Sir_Charles_]

I think every organization should take a modest-hitting good-glove middle infielder and train him to play every position. Anticipate the need.

Spot on. There should be one in AA and in AAA. They should at least learn the fundamentals of each IF position.

[Ironman92]

If Billy knocks him in with two out I will refer to him as "clutch" for the next 5 games.

[Tom Servo]

RBI single by Billy!

4-0 Redlegs

[Ironman92]

Clutch with the RBI!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Billy Clutch Hamilton with the Ribeye!

[BluegrassRedleg]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_%28term%29#Controversy

I wouldn't use the term -- and, as I said earlier, it feels really outdated and perhaps inappropriate in that context -- but I'm not buying that it's the equivalent of slurs for blacks or Jews. That's just people going out of their way to be offended.

[Ironman92]

Game 4 of the series we stop trying to hit HR in that huge park and just collect hits....

[Ironman92]

Steal clutch!!!

[Chip R]

Wow! This Marlins pitcher sucks.

[Big Klu]

nice SB for Negron


Keep running

I love the running game. I know people on RZ complain about it, but I love everything about it. Turn the pressure up, and force the defense to make plays.

[Ironman92]

Wow! This Marlins pitcher sucks.

Gave away Anibal Sanchez for him.

[Ironman92]

Steal clutch!!!!!!!

[Tom Servo]

another hit for Bruce!

[Ironman92]

Base hit.....coulda shoulda woulda

[Ironman92]

Bruce filling up the lawn and leaf bags today

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice to see Jay smiling. He hasn't in quite a while.

[Ironman92]

If Frazier knocks in this run with two outs I'll call him Todd or Frazier for the next 5 games

[Ironman92]

Todd with a RBI

[Tom Servo]

Frazier!


Bruce out at third but eh, I'm okay. 5-0 Redlegs.

[toledodan]

5 runs???

[Ironman92]

Nice to see Jay smiling. He hasn't in quite a while.

He just let out 3+ F bombs while leaving the field.

Pitcher completely on the ropes.....dumb dumb dumb

[Todd Gack]

Bruce is an idiot

[Stray]

Was Bruce mad at himself or Steve Smith there?

[Ironman92]

5 runs???

With a crazy robbing by Stanton and bad base running

[Ironman92]

Was Bruce mad at himself or Steve Smith there?

I highly doubt he would show up his coach ...Latos might, but not Jay

[Chip R]

This guy sucks so bad Bruce has 2 hits and Frazier just had a hit.

[KronoRed]

7700

[Ironman92]

Garrett seems to always hit a no doubter against us

[BluegrassRedleg]

The full phrase is "Chinaman's chance in Hell." So the original source is very derogatory. Not sure Marty know that, though.

"... in Hell" doesn't change anything. It means the same thing, no matter how it's put: "no chance."

Like I said, the term came from a period where the Chinese in the U.S. were not treated well, so maybe it should not be used because of that historic connection, but in and of itself, it's not derogatory toward a group of people now like the "N word" or other slurs. It can be applied to whites, blacks, Latinos, Chinese... whoever.

Trying to think of some other colloquialisms that may apply.

[Ironman92]

Cavernous

[BluegrassRedleg]

5 runs???

Unprecedented.

[Ironman92]

That loud kid sounds like he has a gigantic kazoo

[Ironman92]

Unprecedented.

Checking with ELIAS

[_Sir_Charles_]

Was Bruce mad at himself or Steve Smith there?

Not on Smith. The play was right in front of Jay...he went on his own I'm sure.

But, out of curiosity...was Smith waving him to third?

[Big Klu]

I highly doubt he would show up his coach ...Latos might, but not Jay

Where does this "Latos might show up the coaches" idea come from? I've never seen anything like that from him. He's highly competitive, and might be upset with himself, but I don't see him as being disrespectful to the manager or coaches.

[Tom Servo]

If you can't get Jeff Mathis out...

[tomnuetten]

Where does this "Latos might show up the coaches" idea come from? I've never seen anything like that from him. He's highly competitive, and might be upset with himself, but I don't see him as being disrespectful to the manager or coaches.

he didn´t even show up little kids who can´t catch a baseball

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[Ironman92]

Where does this "Latos might show up the coaches" idea come from? I've never seen anything like that from him. He's highly competitive, and might be upset with himself, but I don't see him as being disrespectful to the manager or coaches.

Price was talking to him last start after he ignored the runner scoring to argue with the ump.....Price walked in front of him in the dugout and said a few words and Latos then put his head down and tried to walk around him and Price had to move and put his hand on his chest to get him to listen.

That was a but disrespectful even though I'm sure he meant nothing by it....I could easily see him doing that to a base coach to himself like Bruce did.

[Magdal]

Brews leading Cards 2-0 in the 2nd.

[757690]

"... in Hell" doesn't change anything. It means the same thing, no matter how it's put: "no chance."

Like I said, the term came from a period where the Chinese in the U.S. were not treated well, so maybe it should not be used because of that historic connection, but in and of itself, it's not derogatory toward a group of people now like the "N word" or other slurs. It can be applied to whites, blacks, Latinos, Chinese... whoever.

Trying to think of some other colloquialisms that may apply.

The term "Chinaman" is just outdated, I agree.

But "Chinaman's chance" comes from the fact that when building the railroads, all the dangerous work was given to the Chinese immigrants, since they were considered expendable. I find it offensive. But your milage may vary.

[Ironman92]

Leake can't get out of this inning

[Tom Servo]

5-1 Redlegs after 4.

[WVRedsFan]

Price was talking to him last start after he ignored the runner scoring to argue with the ump.....Price walked in front of him in the dugout and said a few words and Latos then put his head down and tried to walk around him and Price had to move and put his hand on his chest to get him to listen.

That was a but disrespectful even though I'm sure he meant nothing by it....I could easily see him doing that to a base coach to himself like Bruce did.grasping at straws, I think.

[Ironman92]

Leake will be done after 6 (if he can go that far)....bullpen should be rested plenty to finish it off but not counting my chickens yet.

[KittyDuran]

"... in Hell" doesn't change anything. It means the same thing, no matter how it's put: "no chance."

Like I said, the term came from a period where the Chinese in the U.S. were not treated well, so maybe it should not be used because of that historic connection, but in and of itself, it's not derogatory toward a group of people now like the "N word" or other slurs. It can be applied to whites, blacks, Latinos, Chinese... whoever.

Trying to think of some other colloquialisms that may apply.

Maybe he should've said "Irishman" since they had trouble when the mass immigration came during/after the famine... "Irish need not apply"... OTOH when was the last time Marty said "beaten like a red headed stepchild"?

[Ironman92]

grasping at straws, I think.

If you are in charge of someone and talk to them and they try to move on while you are talking....that's not disrespectful?

[Ironman92]

grasping at straws, I think.

My Dad was 1/4 straw....I find this very offensive

[BluegrassRedleg]

Maybe he should've said "Irishman" since they had trouble when the mass immigration came during/after the famine... "Irish need not apply"... OTOH when was the last time Marty said "beaten like a red headed stepchild"?

He's frequently insensitive to relatives of the Titanic disaster.

[WVRedsFan]

My Dad was 1/4 straw....I find this very offensive
I don't know what you're talking about with this. My point was it was probably an isolated incident.

[Ironman92]

I don't know what you're talking about with this. My point was it was probably an isolated incident.

The thread has a high number of posts about Marty needing to apologize for being offensive to Chinamen

I'd say Bruce going multiple F bombing on camera is quite isolated as well.

[_Sir_Charles_]

He's frequently insensitive to relatives of the Titanic disaster.

He's just like a ton of grumpy grandfathers everywhere. The proper response is to roll your eyes and take it with a grain of salt.

[WVRedsFan]

The thread has a high number of posts about Marty needing to apologize for being offensive to Chinamen

I'd say Bruce going multiple F bombing on camera is quite isolated as well.True. I was shaking my head. And I haven't been paying much attention

[Ironman92]

Reds have 10 hits and 5 runs......let's all be happy from here on out

[_Sir_Charles_]

I could watch Hechavaria all day long. Some of the best footwork I've seen from a SS in a long while.

[KittyDuran]

He's just like a ton of grumpy grandfathers everywhere. The proper response is to roll your eyes and take it with a grain of salt.

Or in my case parents... :)

[Ironman92]

Where was that 1-1 pitch to Yelich???? Can't keep him off base.

[Ironman92]

I could watch Hechavaria all day long. Some of the best footwork I've seen from a SS in a long while.

He can pick it with the best of them as well

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yelich has impressed me. Good looking young player.

[Ironman92]

Valdespin with a Heisey

[Ironman92]

Yelich has impressed me. Good looking young player.

Yeah....I jinxed his butt back to the dugout

[_Sir_Charles_]

He can pick it with the best of them as well

No doubt. But the footwork puts him on a different level IMO. I haven't seen him air out the arm yet, but it looks solid thus far.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Marty now in a stew over the Red Sox and Yankees being on national TV tonight "for the 71st time this season." :laugh:

[WVRedsFan]

Yelich has impressed me. Good looking young player.

Sad to say, but as soon as they are good, they trade them. Hopefully to the Reds.

[Ironman92]

Trade Leake for Stanton....get it done before leaving SB

[WVRedsFan]

Marty now in a stew over the Red Sox and Yankees being on national TV tonight "for the 71st time this season." :laugh:
I agree with him. Playing to the NY-Boston population.

[Ironman92]

Marty now in a stew over the Red Sox and Yankees being on national TV tonight "for the 71st time this season." :laugh:

Waaah... ESPN is East coast biased and based and those are the two big draws. He expect this game to make it?

[KronoRed]

Trade Leake for Stanton....get it done before leaving SB

I can hear the laughter from here.

[Ironman92]

Leake reaches with a crapper hit....him running the bases tends to lead to him leaving the ball up the next inning

[BluegrassRedleg]

Speed kills.

[Big Klu]

Yelich has impressed me. Good looking young player.

Reminds me a little bit of a young Johnny Damon.

[_Sir_Charles_]

McGehee should've let that go. Horrible angle to try the throw.

[Ironman92]

Kelch jinxing Bruce big time

[Ironman92]

Bruce with a Heisey....that one is on Kelch

[WVRedsFan]

This is one strange inning. Bases loaded with nary a ball leaving the infield.

Until Mes does his magic. Big lead now

[_Sir_Charles_]

That's what keeps Hechavaria behind Simmons. Middling arm. Decent, but that's it.

[Tom Servo]

Rocco!

7-1 Redlegs

[Kc61]

Mes keeps this up I'm switching to Rocco.

[Chip R]

7 runs?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice! Single to plate 2 more by Rocco!

[Ironman92]

That's what keeps Hechavaria behind Simmons. Middling arm. Decent, but that's it.

He bobbled it....Simmons has a rocket.

[Ironman92]

Let's see if Leake can keep it down and get one more inning before turning it over.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That's what keeps Hechavaria behind Simmons. Middling arm. Decent, but that's it.

Simmons has struggled a bit this year with the glove.

[BCubb2003]

Someone might have to report an abduction and identity theft, but let's hope they take their time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

He bobbled it....Simmons has a rocket.

I know he does, Simmons is a beast at short. And yes, Hechavaria bobbled it and that's what I've been waiting to see. A play that forces him to let it loose with the arm. No cannon for him.

[Ironman92]

Simmons has struggled a bit this year with the glove.

He has picked it up the past month but he had some errors early. He and Adeiny are just highlight reels at SS.

[Ironman92]

I know he does, Simmons is a beast at short. And yes, Hechavaria bobbled it and that's what I've been waiting to see. A play that forces him to let it loose with the arm. No cannon for him.

I don't think the cannon gets him after the bobble....but he's already made 5 very very good plays this series...and most he's made look easy

[Ironman92]

Bruce c'mon.....you are an OF, go get it assertively

[BluegrassRedleg]

He has picked it up the past month but he had some errors early. He and Adeiny are just highlight reels at SS.

I put ours right there with them... he just can't hit his way out of a paper bag, and this lineup can't afford another limp bat.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I don't think the cannon gets him after the bobble....but he's already made 5 very very good plays this series...and most he's made look easy

I wasn't saying he should've got him...just pointing out that he has a pretty average arm. Footwork, range & hands are all top notch.

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I put ours right there with them... he just can't hit his way out of a paper bag, and this lineup can't afford another limp bat.

Agreed. The thing that puts Cozy in the group is that he doesn't have a weakness defensively. All his tools are above average. It makes the final tally rock solid.

[NebraskaRed]

I agree with Marty about that Stephen King book. It was great.

And if Ramon Santiago were in this game, the Reds would be up 19-1. He will save us all.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Outside of the 3 walks, really nice outing from Leake today. Did well with working out of jams too.