8/31/14 Reds at Pirates

[Ironman92]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/31/2f455ab4163053421d851da30fb895e6.jpg

[Ironman92]

Slight delay.....first pitch in 20 min hopefully

[Ironman92]

Welsh interviewing Josh Harrison. Skip on steroids.

[Ironman92]

Cueto may have his 2nd straight start interrupted by rain...if so he'll be ticked.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton strikes out swinging

[Ironman92]

BHam with a K to start the day

[Ironman92]

Negron with a K

[Reds Fanatic]

Negron strikes out swinging

[Ironman92]

I have a hard time believing Phillips is too hurt. His first two swings vs Liriano were ridiculous. Swinging like that should result in a wince or something.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips strikes out swinging.

Wow just hearing about Broxton possibly traded to Milwaukee

[Ironman92]

Phillips strikes out.

Liriano fans the side

[Ironman92]

Phillips strikes out swinging.

Wow just hearing about Broxton possibly traded to Milwaukee

But but but....you don't trade within the division

Can we get Khris Davis

[WVRedsFan]

It is the height of stupidity to trade a player to someone in your division--especially a good one. With our pitiful bullpen, we may not win again with moves like this. I know we are not going anywhere this year, but why strengthen anyone in your division?

[Reds Fanatic]

Harrison first pitch homer to left

[Ironman92]

1st pitch

Josh Harrison HR

[WVRedsFan]

Cueto is done for the year. Too many innings.

[757690]

I have a hard time believing Phillips is too hurt. His first two swings vs Liriano were ridiculous. Swinging like that should result in a wince or something.

I hope you're joking.

[Ironman92]

It is the height of stupidity to trade a player to someone in your division--especially a good one. With our pitiful bullpen, we may not win again with moves like this. I know we are not going anywhere this year, but why strengthen anyone in your division?

To rid of his contract which pays him like a closer.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Phillips

[kaldaniels]

It is the height of stupidity to trade a player to someone in your division--especially a good one. With our pitiful bullpen, we may not win again with moves like this. I know we are not going anywhere this year, but why strengthen anyone in your division?

If it clears up payroll for the Reds, and the Brewers just sank 11 MM into Broxton...I'm cool with that.

[Reds Fanatic]

McCutchen pops out to 1st

[WVRedsFan]

To rid of his contract which pays him like a closer.

Bad contract for sure, but Brox has done well this year and will come back to haunt us, if this is true, in division battles in the future. They had better get something good for him or else this is a dumb move.

[Reds Fanatic]

This is from C Trent:

Reds will get 2 players to be named from #Brewers for Jonathan Broxton

[Ironman92]

I hope you're joking.

Everyone is playing hurt.

What part of his game since he's return does he show any signs of not being good enough to play? I see zero signs of not being ok to play.

As I type he makes a tremendous play....just like we expect.

Coming off a wrist injury and he swings for a long HR...Sorry if I believe his wrist is feeling ok.

[Reds Fanatic]

Davis strikes out. 1-0 Pirates after 1

[Ironman92]

Bad contract for sure, but Brox has done well this year and will come back to haunt us, if this is true, in division battles in the future. They had better get something good for him or else this is a dumb move.

I never bought into the don't trade to someone in the division. If you seem it as a positive trade then what does it matter.

[Ironman92]

Liriano looking like 1998 Kerry Wood

[Tom Servo]

Josh Harrison is history's greatest monster.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier flies out to right

[Ironman92]

Frazier with a lazy shallow fly to RF

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena grounds out to 3rd on a good play by Harrison

[Larkin Fan]

Bad contract for sure, but Brox has done well this year and will come back to haunt us, if this is true, in division battles in the future. They had better get something good for him or else this is a dumb move.

Can the Reds do anything to make you happy?

Dumping an extremely restrictive contract is a good thing.

[Ironman92]

Harrison makes a very nice play to get Pena

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick lines out to center

[Ironman92]

Ludwick hits it well but right at Cutch

Liriano is perfect thru 2 with 3 K and only 19 pitches

[BCubb2003]

I never bought into the don't trade to someone in the division. If you seem it as a positive trade then what does it matter.

It probably matters even less with wild cards. It's probably more the aggravation of seeing him come in and do well against you.

[Ironman92]

6 pitch inning after a 3 K inning....

[WVRedsFan]

With the news of the trade and the Reds' performance so far, I think I'll go for a ride in the mountains and concentrate on more pleasant things. This disaster of a season gets worse daily. I can't stand another 1-0 or one-run loss.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Marte. Nice effort by Phillips

[WVRedsFan]

Can the Reds do anything to make you happy?

Dumping an extremely restrictive contract is a good thing.Come on, LF. I've been around here forever through good times and bad, wins and losses. I don't deserve that. I'm a loyal fan, but there is just so much I can take and I'm not alone here and on the street.

[Ironman92]

It probably matters even less with wild cards. It's probably more the aggravation of seeing him come in and do well against you.

Yeah.....but even a former player say playing for the Nats and beating you 6-9 times or even someone doing it in interleague.

I wouldn't feel very good if the Reds played in the WS next year and Ryan Hanigan beat us.

[Magdal]

Josh Harrison is history's greatest monster.You said a mouth full. On Broxton...I'm surprised he was traded inside the division. And to the damn Brewers!

I hope the Reds can salvage one today. The Pirates CAN'T be this good!

[Ironman92]

With the news of the trade and the Reds' performance so far, I think I'll go for a ride in the mountains and concentrate on more pleasant things. This disaster of a season gets worse daily. I can't stand another 1-0 or one-run loss.

Heisey will get us going.

[Ironman92]

Foul by inches saving a run

[Ironman92]

200 K by Cueto....that's impressive

[Reds Fanatic]

Pickoff. 1-3-6-1-3

[Ironman92]

Glad it was slick!

Notice the RF hustling in to 1st base on that play.

[Ironman92]

Pickoff. 1-3-6-1-3

Dumb by Marte

[Reds Fanatic]

Ugh. Mercer homers to left. 2-0 Pirates

[Ironman92]

Glad Marte was dumb

Jordy HR

2-0

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Cueto on the bunt

[Ironman92]

Great play by Cueto!...not positive he was out

[Ironman92]

Just wasn't sure that Frazier remained intact with the base....excellent play

[Reds Fanatic]

Liriano with a soft line out to short

[Tony Cloninger]

Cueto is done for the year. Too many innings.

? He has not even pitched 200 innings coming into this game? He has pitched over 200 innings before. I am not going to correlate one bad game into he has pitched too many innings. Good grief pitchers have to be able to throw at least 200-220 innings or else you might as well go with a 6 man rotation.

[Ironman92]

? He has not even pitched 200 innings coming into this game? He has pitched over 200 innings before. I am not going to correlate one bad game into he has pitched too many innings. Good grief pitchers have to be able to throw at least 200-220 innings or else you might as well go with a 6 man rotation.

He may wear down a bit coming off of a low inning season and slightly lose his placement of pitches....but with under 30 games left most every player battles to get through the rest of the season.

[Tony Cloninger]

I do not hate Josh Harrison. Hate is reserved for Hitler and Idi Amin or Pol Pot.

But to call this guy the key the MVP of the Pirates is Harold Reynolds speak. I may include Harold into I almost hate this guy.

Can you imagine a 3 man booth for Harold, Sean casey and George Grande?

[Ironman92]

Liriano with superior stuff today vs starting Heisey....doesn't sound fair

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey flies out to center

[Ironman92]

I do not hate Josh Harrison. Hate is reserved for Hitler and Idi Amin or Pol Pot.

But to call this guy the key the MVP of the Pirates is Harold Reynolds speak. I may include Harold into I almost hate this guy.

Can you imagine a 3 man booth for Harold, Sean casey and George Grande?

I get you....but Clint Hurdle said this as well. Harrison has been on fire since the break propelling this team.

[Reds Fanatic]

Walk for Santiago

[Tony Cloninger]

Ken Holtzman and Rick Wise threw no hitters against the Reds in 1971.

To see pitchers that are barely as good as those 2 throw almost no hitters almost game after every other game...... I mean... how can it be this bad?

[Reds Fanatic]

Good bunt by Cueto

[Tony Cloninger]

I get you....but Clint Hurdle said this as well. Harrison has been on fire since the break propelling this team.

You mean Clint Hurdle. The ultimate True Grit who eats John Wayne for breakfast and wants to instill the tough into the Pirates by having their pitchers throw inside enough to lead the league in HBP the last 2 years? :D

Believe me.... the Reds need to find a Josh Harrison somewhere. They seem to find diamonds in the rough with pitching.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton fouls out to 1st. Liriano through 3 on only 30 pitches

[Reds Fanatic]

Harrison flies out to center

[Reds Fanatic]

Lambo bloop double to left

[Ironman92]

You mean Clint Hurdle. The ultimate True Grit who eats John Wayne for breakfast and wants to instill the tough into the Pirates by having their pitchers throw inside enough to lead the league in HBP the last 2 years? :D

Believe me.... the Reds need to find a Josh Harrison somewhere. They seem to find diamonds in the rough with pitching.

Just saying....

Harrison since the ASB is hitting .328 with 15 doubles, 3 triples, 8 HR and OPSing .940 with crazy good defense

[Ironman92]

Lucky double....Negron with a great jump and nearly made a huge highlight

[Mutaman]

Boy I thought we could get a live body for Broxton. Things are worse than I thought and I thought they were pretty bad.

[Tom Servo]

Boy I thought we could get a live body for Broxton. Things are worse than I thought and I thought they were pretty bad.
We're getting back dead guys?

[Tony Cloninger]

Boy I thought we could get a live body for Broxton. Things are worse than I thought and I thought they were pretty bad.

Who cares. Contract is gone and they are getting either 1 or 2 players back for him.....but if NOT again...contract gone.

[BCubb2003]

If anything, the Broxton trade shows that Walt is planning to do something this offseason.

[Tony Cloninger]

Just saying....

Harrison since the ASB is hitting .328 with 15 doubles, 3 triples, 8 HR and OPSing .940 with crazy good defense

I do not like Clint Hurdle.

I like Josh and his Ben Zobrist like performance.

[Reds Fanatic]

McCutchen strikes out swinging

[Ironman92]

Cutch gone

[Tony Cloninger]

We're getting back dead guys?

They are already here. jack H, Skip, Ondrusek, Heisey, Bruce. Gangs all here as part of the walking dead.

[Reds Fanatic]

Walker grounds out to short. 2-0 Pirates after 3.

[Mutaman]

We're getting back dead guys?

I suspect it will be a body or two who never cross the Ohio river out of Kentucky. Could be a huge pick up for Milwaukee although Brox has shown some wear lately. He knows how to pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Negron strikes out swinging

[Ironman92]

I do not like Clint Hurdle.

I like Josh and his Ben Zobrist like performance.

Harrison a good bit better this year than Zobrist has been for the last couple.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to Liriano

[Ironman92]

Our offense looks good

[757690]

I suspect it will be a body or two who never cross the Ohio river out of Kentucky. Could be a huge pick up for Milwaukee although Brox has shown some wear lately. He knows how to pitch.

He gets paid like a closer next season. That money, around $11M, could go towards a LF or SS.

[Mutaman]

Who cares. Contract is gone and they are getting either 1 or 2 players back for him.....but if NOT again...contract gone.

Sorry but I thought Broxton was one of the few guys on this team who was earning his contract. Thought we could get something for him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Finally a hit as Frazier singles

[WVRedsFan]

There goes the no-hitter

[Ironman92]

Frazier breaks up the no no

[Mutaman]

He gets paid like a closer next season. That money, around $11M, could go towards a LF or SS.

Good idea. And then we can just slide JJ Hoover or Sam into the set up role.

[Ironman92]

There goes the no-hitter

You shouldn't post while driving through the mountains

[Ironman92]

Good idea. And then we can just slide JJ Hoover or Sam into the set up role.

You spelled Jumbo wrong

[Reds Fanatic]

Pena grounds into a FC

[Mutaman]

Pena grounds into a FC

If Jumbo is our 8th inning guy next year we might have a problem. As the Cardinals showed, word is getting around that you just sit on his fastball.

[Reds Fanatic]

Davis singles

[Reds Fanatic]

Marte grounds into a 4-6 FC

[Reds Fanatic]

Make it a 4-6-3 DP on the replay

[Stray]

It'd be pretty cool if we had players that were good at hitting the ball.

[Ironman92]

If Jumbo is our 8th inning guy next year we might have a problem. As the Cardinals showed, word is getting around that you just sit on his fastball.

Word must've been getting around on Brox because he had a 1.76 WHIP in his last 12 appearances.

[Reds Fanatic]

Mercer singles and a pop out ends the inning

[Ironman92]

It'd be pretty cool if we had players that were good at hitting the ball.

Pay attention this inning....I see multiple extra base hits and multiple runs.

All will be good.

[Ironman92]

Phillips looking good at 2nd

Santiago holds his own at SS

[WVRedsFan]

You shouldn't post while driving through the mountainsListening to the radio. Wife driving. following on MLB At Bat. The wonders of being a high tech redneck.

[Mutaman]

Word must've been getting around on Brox because he had a 1.76 WHIP in his last 12 appearances.

He has been showing signs of wear. Still a formidable veteran presence for the Brew Crew to obtain down the stretch. The Division is there for the taking, and they have strengthened a huge weakness.

[Ironman92]

I'm good.

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey crushed that pitch. Tie game

[Ironman92]

He has been showing signs of wear. Still a formidable veteran presence for the Brew Crew to obtain down the stretch. The Division is there for the taking, and they have strengthened a huge weakness.

I wish him and the Brewers well.

[757690]

Good idea. And then we can just slide JJ Hoover or Sam into the set up role.

I agree setup guys are important. But the Reds will have all offseason to address it, and it won't cost anywhere near $11M.

[Reds Fanatic]

Santiago with a hit on his birthday

[Mutaman]

I wish him and the Brewers well.

Brox is a good man but under no circumstances do I wish the Brewers well. And I'm a born and bred Cheesehead. :)

[Mutaman]

I agree setup guys are important. But the Reds will have all offseason to address it, and it won't cost anywhere near $11M.

Hope you're right. Just thought we could get something for Broxton. One thing we learned this year is that all pitchers on the roster are important.

[Tony Cloninger]

Harrison a good bit better this year than Zobrist has been for the last couple.

Ok you took me literally that I meant he is a Zobrist clone as of now.... I meant the Zobrist from 2010-12.

[757690]

Phillips didn't scream in pain when he hit that weak grounder. He's clearly faking his injury ;)

[Kc61]

Brandon Phillips is either hurt or just can't hit any more. I'll assume he is hurt.

Sit him.

[Tony Cloninger]

Sorry but I thought Broxton was one of the few guys on this team who was earning his contract. Thought we could get something for him.

He was doing good and recently he has been very average to poor.....with an injury prone history. He is overpaid at $9M for what he does, and the fact they could very little for him...I think shows that as well?

[Tony Cloninger]

Brandon Phillips is either hurt or just can't hit any more. I'll assume he is hurt.

Sit him.


Price will not do that. He will not sit Bruce either. He should not just bench them but sit them more often, but he won't. So whoever is brought up will have to live with LF and some 3b/1b ...depending on when Frazier plays.

[villain612]

Kueto

[Reds Fanatic]

4 Ks for Cueto. 2-2 after 5.

[Kc61]

Price will not do that. He will not sit Bruce either. He should not just bench them but sit them more often, but he won't. So whoever is brought up will have to live with LF and some 3b/1b ...depending on when Frazier plays.

It's not a question of benching anyone. It's not punishment.

I won't speak about Bruce, who doesn't look visibly injured right now. I understand he's subpar, but he looks like he can play.

Phillips visibly cannot hit now. He should be sitting, resting, whatever.

[Reds Fanatic]

Frazier lines out to right

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick singles

[Ironman92]

Ok you took me literally that I meant he is a Zobrist clone as of now.... I meant the Zobrist from 2010-12.

Looks like a Willie Mays clone right now

[Ironman92]

Brandon Phillips is either hurt or just can't hit any more. I'll assume he is hurt.

Sit him.

Pristine on defense and swinging very hard still.

[Ironman92]

Phillips didn't scream in pain when he hit that weak grounder. He's clearly faking his injury ;)

What injury?

[Ironman92]

Had to be safe

[Ironman92]

Slow mo on my DVR showed he was safe????

[BluegrassRedleg]

Curious George just had Jay Bell playing with Omar Moreno. :laugh:

[BluegrassRedleg]

I loved those days when Bip Roberts would move Dave Collins along with a SAC bunt.

[BCubb2003]

Time is a flat circle.

[Ironman92]

Trivia Question

In 25 career months of MLB action Chris Heisey has never gotten 20 starts in any month. One time he did get 19 starts.

Was his Average/OPS that month

A. .234/.599
B. .289/.740
C. .197/.552
D. .256/.709
E. .274/.744
F. .218/.621

?

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton ties the Reds rookie record with 54 steals

[Ironman92]

Cueto thru 7 only 2 ER

[Reds Fanatic]

1-2-3 inning. 6 Ks for Cueto. 92 pitches through 7

[Ironman92]

Harrison singles to start the 7th

[Tony Cloninger]

the Carddinals might have the best fans in the world but their official scorers are the biggest idiots on the planet. 2B for Matt C on a ball right in the CF glove who was lazily drifting back.

[BCubb2003]

the Carddinals might have the best fans in the world but their official scorers are the biggest idiots on the planet. 2B for Matt C on a ball right in the CF glove who was lazily drifting back.

They're notorious.

[Ironman92]

the Carddinals might have the best fans in the world but their official scorers are the biggest idiots on the planet. 2B for Matt C on a ball right in the CF glove who was lazily drifting back.

Yep....ran forever but it was an error.

Scorers have been ticking me off the past several years.

Nothing is an error unless the stud pitcher is on the mound.

[Tony Cloninger]

They're notorious.

I mean even Al Hrabosky said it was an error. That's embarrassing.

[Ironman92]

Big matchup for Cueto's ERA, W

[Tom Servo]

Negron!!

[Ironman92]

Frazier doesn't get that....no way

[Reds Fanatic]

Great catch by Negron

[Ironman92]

Top 3 play of the day in MLB

[Ironman92]

Luddy fans to start the 9th

[WVRedsFan]

You can see these guys pressing. Heisey looks very nervous

Just nervous enough. 3-2 Reds

[Reds Fanatic]

Heisey homers again!! 3-2 Reds!

[Ironman92]

Ha!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Big day for Hi-C. Hopefully it gets Cueto a W.

[Ironman92]

You can see these guys pressing. Heisey looks very nervous

...

[Ironman92]

Lol at Bruce/Skip/Cozart in the dugout together. Hope they are sharing hitting secrets.

[WVRedsFan]

Read my edit...:)

[WVRedsFan]

Jack gets a rare hit

[Ironman92]

SMH....they are raving about Skip Schumaker...unbelievable lol

[Ironman92]

Marte with a great play to hold Hannahannnahannahan to a single.

[Ironman92]

Cueto is done for the year. Too many innings.

.....

[Larkin Fan]

Heisey is the star of the game. What are the odds?

[WVRedsFan]

.....Cueto is done for the year. Too many innings

You ever been wrong? Ever? I still say he has a tired arm, but heck, I don't know everything, lol

[PepperJack]

When's the deadline today? Was it 4 P.M. like July 31st was, or is it midnight tonight?

Because, maybe as KC said earlier, the Reds could find takers for Heisey and maybe even Ludwick, before the day is over.

[WVRedsFan]

Heisey is the star of the game. What are the odds?

The kid baffles me. Maybe it's his eyes. When he's on, he plays good defense and hits. When he's not (which is more often than not), he's a dead spot in the lineup.

[Ironman92]

You ever been wrong? Ever? I still say he has a tired arm, but heck, I don't know everything, lol

I'm wrong all the time.

[Ironman92]

Skip is 3/22 off of Baltimore's RH starter Tuesday.....so hopefully he'll be in there

[BCubb2003]

So now the Reds have only one pitcher that's reached 102 mph.

[Ironman92]

I'd PH Russell Martin somewhere in this inning

[Ironman92]

Chappy throwing a nasty curve today?

[WVRedsFan]

Reds win.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Did Cueto just cup-check Leake? :p

[Tom Servo]

We're good again! :beerme:

[Mutaman]

Not a bad little season for JC. Talent, heart, and intelligence is a pretty tough combination.

[Larkin Fan]

Nice little win today. That play by Negron was one of the finest I've ever seen. If I'm Walt, Negron has a spot waiting for him when the 2015 team is being constructed.

[Big Klu]

Heisey is the star of the game. What are the odds?

This is completely anecdotal because I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it seems like Heisey always hits well at PNC Park.

[WVRedsFan]

This is completely anecdotal because I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it seems like Heisey always hits well at PNC Park.

Hits well against the Pirates period, but no so much this year - .219/.242/.406

[texasdave]

Skippy starts every game next week because the Reds' manager doesn't know grit from granola.

[PuffyPig]

I'm happy that the Reds could salvage the last game of the 3 game set with my sons going down to Pittsburgh from Calgary to catch the series.

IIRC, a number of years ago we were in Cincy to catch the Blue Jays and Yankees beating up on the Reds, The Reds won the last game when Heisey hit 3 HR's.

[Mutaman]

I'm happy that the Reds could salvage the last game of the 3 game set with my sons going down to Pittsburgh from Calgary to catch the series.

IIRC, a number of years ago we were in Cincy to catch the Blue Jays and Yankees beating up on the Reds, The Reds won the last game when Heisey hit 3 HR's.

Isn't lance Storm from Calgary,Alberta, Canada?

[PuffyPig]

Isn't lance Storm from Calgary,Alberta, Canada?

Like many wrestlers, he trained in Calgary.

[Mutaman]

Like many wrestlers, he trained in Calgary.

His ring announcement always emphasized that he was from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Just so nobody would get it confused with Calgary, Alberta, Brazil.

[Ironman92]

Trivia Question

In 25 career months of MLB action Chris Heisey has never gotten 20 starts in any month. One time he did get 19 starts.

Was his Average/OPS that month

A. .234/.599
B. .289/.740
C. .197/.552
D. .256/.709
E. .274/.744
F. .218/.621

?

Answer (E) .321/.782

[PuffyPig]

His ring announcement always emphasized that he was from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Just so nobody would get it confused with Calgary, Alberta, Brazil.

Unfortunately, many Americans didn't learn much about Canada in school, so there are often huge misconceptions about Canada.

I'm sure there is many that don't know Calgary or Alberta.

You obviously aren't one of those people.

[Mutaman]

Unfortunately, many Americans didn't learn much about Canada in school, so there are often huge misconceptions about Canada.

I'm sure there is many that don't know Calgary or Alberta.

You obviously aren't one of those people.

I know its the home of the Hart Family, and Superstar Billy Graham trained there. I remember Badger Bob Johnson coached the hockey team and the olympics were there once. Don't think I could find it on a map though.

[WVRedsFan]

I know its the home of the Hart Family, and Superstar Billy Graham trained there. I remember Badger Bob Johnson coached the hockey team and the olympics were there once. Don't think I could find it on a map though.
Go to Montana and head north.

[KronoRed]

Did Cueto just cup-check Leake? :p

Yep, Deadspin has video.
http://deadspin.com/johnny-cueto-celebrates-win-by-flicking-mike-leakes-cro-1629103515

[Larkin Fan]

I think Cueto was just reminding Leake to use the bathroom before the plane takes off this time.

[Ironman92]

Funny because Leake was interviewed in game yesterday by Sean Casey about his college teammate Ike Davis....he said Ike was always kissing around and playing grab ass.