9/5/2014 Reds vs Mets

[cumberlandreds]

Here's the lineups. Guess that's it for Yorman and Lutz. This is Irish Heritage Night at GABP. You get to hand over all your green (backs) to the Reds.


http://mlblogsramsey.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/9-5.jpg?w=555

[Tom Servo]

Why not bat Bourgeois #2 behind Billy?

[cumberlandreds]

Meet the Mets!


1. Juan Lagares (R) CF
2. Matt den Dekker (L) LF
3. David Wright (R) 3B
4. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
5. Travis d'Arnaud (R) C
6. Curtis Granderson (L) RF
7. Dilson Herrera (R) 2B
8. Wilmer Flores (R) SS
9. Bartolo Colon (R) P

[CySeymour]

Why not bat Bourgeois #2 behind Billy?

because this way you can get Frazier and Mez up more often.

[Tom Servo]

because this way you can get Frazier and Mez up more often.
I am a big proponent of giving your best players the most at-bats but it's pretty much a non-issue right now. Bourgeois had a nice game yesterday, would be fun to see if he and Billy could get on and wreak havoc on the basepaths.

[RedsBrick]

It's my opinion that it's that time in the season to let the line-up roll out there without a peep from the gallery.

[Kc61]

Big series. Bottom ten W-L record on the line.

Shouldn't overstate it, though, both teams still have 19 games to lose afterwards.

[NeilHamburger]

They're playing the bagpipes at GABP. Either Roddy Piper is in town or there is a funeral.

[Red Raindog]

They're playing the bagpipes at GABP. Either Roddy Piper is in town or there is a funeral.

2014 Cincinnati Reds -- RIP?

[KittyDuran]

They're playing the bagpipes at GABP. Either Roddy Piper is in town or there is a funeral.

Irish Heritage Night...

[PepperJack]

I still think the Reds are auditioning Bourgeois for Heisey's role next season.


I would personally have Yorman in LF and Lutz at 1B, but meh.

[Ironman92]

Why not bat Bourgeois #2 behind Billy?

Here's a question you didn't think you'd ask 2 months ago

[mbgrayson]

Irish Heritage Night...

Given the green hats and uniforms, we should call them 'the Greens' tonight.

[Ironman92]

Big series. Bottom ten W-L record on the line.

Shouldn't overstate it, though, both teams still have 19 games to lose afterwards.

I'm probably the only person on here that doesn't care about this.

[757690]

Irish Heritage Night...

And they don't start Hannahan?

[Ironman92]

And they don't start Hannahan?

My first thought was it's Irish Heritage and they have Pena over Hannahannnahannahan and Bourgeois over Heisey/Skip

[Tom Servo]

Even though I'm still in my early 20s, David Wright being 31 makes me feel old because he and Ryan Zimmerman (30 in a few weeks) being the young guns of the NL East feels like yesterday to me.

[Larkin Fan]

Those uniforms.... Yikes.

[Ironman92]

We'll get to watch Juan Lagares who is another very good defensive CF but I believe several of his highlights are overrated due to him getting very poor jumps.....but he can make over type of catch for sure. Edmondsish possibly but I haven't seen him enough yet.

[Ironman92]

Those uniforms.... Yikes.

As I always tell my athletes...."you only looks stupid if you suck"....oops

[Tom Servo]

Simon makes you think he may get out of the inning unscathed but just kidding, he gives up another hit for a 1-0 Mets lead.

[Ironman92]

A lot of pitches

[Ironman92]

That wasn't lucky Kelch....that was good use of the bat on that pitch

[Tom Servo]

2-0 Mets after Simon had Granderson 0-2, then went to 3-2, and then Granderson doubled down the line. Simon over 30 pitches and still not out of the first. So overall things going swimmingly for the Cincinnati Greens.

[Ironman92]

Tim Tuefel on 3rd....Wally Backman should be on 1st

[Ironman92]

He's 20...throw him off speed and he'll whiff

[757690]

Even though I'm still in my early 20s, David Wright being 31 makes me feel old because he and Ryan Zimmerman (30 in a few weeks) being the young guns of the NL East feels like yesterday to me.

Wait until the son of some young prospect you followed turns 30.

[Ironman92]

34 pitches

Over/under for Reds 13.5 GO

[Ironman92]

Wait until the son of some young prospect you followed turns 30.

Good story grandpa

[757690]

Those uniforms.... Yikes.

I liked the St. Patrick's Day uniforms, because they were in spring training, and the games didn't count. During the season, I'd rather they stick to official uniforms.

[Ironman92]

GUARANTEE Phillips gets at least 1 hit tonight.

They'll hit Colon pretty good (9 hits, 4 ER thru 6)

[Ironman92]

I was at the game vs the A's when Colon got rocked out of the game in like 2 2/3 innings

[757690]

Good story grandpa

And I wore an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time...

[Larkin Fan]

What the heck was Frazier thinking?

[Tom Servo]

Nice hustle by Frazier but a nicer throw by Lagares who has a great arm and nails Frazier trying to stretch into a double.

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Rocco! :jump:

[Ironman92]

WTH???? That was right in front of him!!!!!

That WAS a nice play but once he cut it off and got stopped, running to second was so stupid.

[Ironman92]

What the heck was Frazier thinking?

I have a lot of SB so I must be fast?

[Kc61]

Mes homers. Frazier singled before him, but for some reason tried to stretch and was easily thrown out.

Price is a smart person but this team has terrible offensive fundamentals.

[Ironman92]

Nice play by Duda (who should make everyone think of Foghorn Leghorn for obvious reasons.

[Tom Servo]

What the heck was Frazier thinking?


WTH???? That was right in front of him!!!!!

That WAS a nice play but once he cut it off and got stopped, running to second was so stupid.

Frazier has done that a lot this season, and it usually catches the CF off guard and he is able to get into to second. Not so much with Lagares.

[klw]

Dear Mets-
I am sorry but this one piece on information was left out of my report. "Walk Mes every at bat for the next three games." Sorry about any inconvenience.
Your humble advance scout

[Ironman92]

Mes homers. Frazier singled before him, but for some reason tried to stretch and was easily thrown out.

Price is a smart person but this team has terrible offensive fundamentals.

To me that's 100% on Frazier. Right in front of him.....soon as Lagares planted successfully without bobble, Todd should've planted and scrambled back to 1st

[Kc61]

Every time I see a ridiculous base running play like that, I wonder whether this coaching staff will be back.

So much bad baseball this season, so many outs given away.

[Ironman92]

Frazier has done that a lot this season, and it usually catches the CF off guard and he is able to get into to second. Not so much with Lagares.

He still had it to see!

I knew Lagares was one of the best....surely the scouting report warned them

[Kc61]

To me that's 100% on Frazier. Right in front of him.....soon as Lagares planted successfully without bobble, Todd should've planted and scrambled back to 1st

I think all year long there has been a standing instruction to be extremely aggressive on the bases. It has totally backfired.

[Ironman92]

Every time I see a ridiculous base running play like that, I wonder whether this coaching staff will be back.

So much bad baseball this season, so many outs given away.

I fail to see how it's anyone's fault other than Frazier

[Tom Servo]

He still had it to see!

I knew Lagares was one of the best....surely the scouting report warned them
Probably, but in the moment Frazier is probably think he can pick his pocket. It was kinda dumb, but I side with Welsh. With a struggling offense, I'm fine with pushing a bit. Not like it really matters anyway.

[Ironman92]

I think all year long there has been a standing instruction to be extremely aggressive on the bases. It has totally backfired.

The hard part of the play was the get to, catch without bobble and successfully plant....the easy part was the throw

Oh well, let's move on so we can enjoy our 1 run loss

[Larkin Fan]

I'm all for aggressive base running. But in order for that strategy to be effective, you have to use common sense. Frazier only had to watch the play as it developed in front of him. Plain as day.

[Kc61]

I fail to see how it's anyone's fault other than Frazier

Only to the extent that Price has instructed them to be super aggressive on the bases. Which I think may be the case.
Obviousy Frazier shouldn't have run in any event.

[Ironman92]

Probably, but in the moment Frazier is probably think he can pick his pocket. It was kinda dumb, but I side with Welsh. With a struggling offense, I'm fine with pushing a bit. Not like it really matters anyway.

The hustle to cut it off and immediate plant tells you he's not getting his pocket picked....a bad read by Frazier

[Tom Servo]

Are you kidding me? Overturned? This freakin season man.

[Larkin Fan]

I can't believe they overturned that.

[klw]

Not watching. Was it a catcher not leaving a lane issue again?

[Larkin Fan]

The Reds obviously didn't eat these before the game today:

http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/files/2011/10/luckycharms.png

[Larkin Fan]

Not watching. Was it a catcher not leaving a lane issue again?

No. Play on the runner at third.

[Tom Servo]

Simon walks in a run to continue his 'human disaster' start tonight.

[Larkin Fan]

Walking in runs is very reminiscent of the lost decade.

[Kc61]

Simon looks very uncomfortable out there. He's pitched enough. Just sit him for the rest of the year.

[Tom Servo]

The Mets should feel lousy that they've managed to score only 3 runs so far.

[50YrRedsFan]

Simon looks very uncomfortable out there. He's pitched enough. Just sit him for the rest of the year.

62 pitches through 2 innings. He'll be gone soon enough.

[Kc61]

Earlier this season somebody posted that Simon will get hurt if he continues to start all season. I didn't agree.

But at this point, I agree. He is laboring.

Enough with him, declare his season over. No more innings until April, in whatever capacity.

[Kc61]

Phillips gets a bloop hit.

Great play by Phillips not running into an automatic out at second.

Good hold, BP.

[50YrRedsFan]

Phillips with his first hit since? Smoked it to center:D

[Kc61]

First and third, Bourgeois up.

If it gets to Simon, use a hitter.

[Kc61]

Colon botches, Keith Hernandez doesn't quite pronounce Bourgeois, Reds in business.

This seems like a good matchup, these teams will battle all weekend, in their way.

3-2 game.

[Tom Servo]

Man, Santiago smoked that ball, but right to Granderson in right.

[Tom Servo]

Textbook scoop by Pena at first. By textbook, I mean he completely whiffed and the ball went into the stands.

[Larkin Fan]

Textbook scoop by Pena at first. By textbook, I mean he completely whiffed and the ball went into the stands.

lol

[Tom Servo]

Frazier and Pena follow that play up with an even uglier one but this time they connect for the out, and now Simon escapes without giving up a run this frame.

[Kc61]

Frazier probably not used to playing third base.

Frazier thrown out twice on the bases tonight.

[Ironman92]

I'd give Frazier a day off....another unnecessary out on the bases and I'd pull him mid game.

[Ironman92]

Simon killing his WAR and playing with fire....but we're right in it.

[Ironman92]

Kelch wearing his stupid hat apparently

[Tom Servo]

lol well done simon

[Ironman92]

You keep playing with fire...

[Ironman92]

lol well done simon

"done" being the key word

[JMO]

HAHA. 22 games left. Hopefully we go 4-18, lets shoot for a top 10 draft pick

[PepperJack]

Good job Simon.


:laugh:

[Ironman92]

8 hits, 6 ER and 3 BB in 4 innings and 96 pitches

[Kc61]

Not sure why Simon was still in the game. Several of us suggested an earlier departure, guess Price wasn't listening.

[Tom Servo]

Not sure why Simon was still in the game. Several of us suggested an earlier departure, guess Price wasn't listening.
The classic Dusty "Maybe he's bound to get better if I leave him in" theory.

[Red Raindog]

8 hits, 6 ER and 3 BB in 4 innings and 96 pitches

so the storm rolling thru here and KO'ing my Dish is a good thing ---

[Ironman92]

so the storm rolling thru here and KO'ing my Dish is a good thing ---

Well....you need to get it back so to not miss our wonderful rally

[Kc61]

Reds with two on, two out, Lutz up.

These games are depressing but will stop soon, thankfully.

[Kc61]

Lutz strikes out on a full count pitch.

All three strikes were Colon fastballs thrown by Lutz.

[Ironman92]

Again I'll state this....there is not 1 Reds fan in the world that wants to see or believes J.J. Hoover should be in the game...not 1

[Kc61]

Again I'll state this....there is not 1 Reds fan in the world that wants to see or believes J.J. Hoover should be in the game...not 1

JJ leads all Reds relievers in innings pitched. Somebody really likes to watch him out there.

[Larkin Fan]

JJ leads all Reds relievers in innings pitched. Somebody really likes to watch him out there.

I can guarantee that it's not the fans. It's just unbelievable that he keeps getting run out there.

[Ironman92]

David Wright is wearing a HUGE glove???

[Tom Servo]

lol @ Hoover giving up a HR even in garbage duty where he belongs

[Ironman92]

In 1980 Dave Collins had 79 steals in just 144 games (Eric Davis not impressed)...but the year before in 122 games he only had 16 SB?

[Ironman92]

Wow!

[Ironman92]

Never would've guessed him being that athletic off the mound.

[Ironman92]

lol @ Hoover giving up a HR even in garbage duty where he belongs

Hoover was unlucky because that ball doesn't leave the park in dead CF of Houston....maybe

[Tom Servo]

here's Ryan Dennick wearing the amazing Blue Wahoo's flag day jersey

http://bluewahoosblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/dennick-flag-day-2.jpg

[Tom Servo]

10-2 Mets. Literally having flashbacks to the Lost Decade right now.

[Kc61]

10-2 ballgame.

Reds need nine to win.

[Ironman92]

You can't see me but I'm flipping off the tv.

[Ironman92]

In my Chandler Bing voice "Could they HAVE anymore base runners?"

[Ironman92]

I know we have 34 pitchers on the roster (and my god they are fun to watch) but I'm rooting for Skip to pitch.

[Tony Cloninger]

Are the Mets in a pennant race? I do not think so. So why is Lutz and Yorman not starting?

Price talks so much BS he makes Dusty sound like a scholar.

[Ironman92]

Are the Mets in a pennant race? I do not think so. So why is Lutz and Yorman not starting?

Price talks so much BS he makes Dusty sound like a scholar.

Mets don't give a crap about that bottom 10 thingy

[Tom Servo]

I do have to wonder if this performance over the last few weeks has Bob pondering some serious changes. This level of performance is a threat to the Reds ability to make money and Bob doesn't strike as the type to sit by passively and watch money fly out the window.

[Tony Cloninger]

It's my opinion that it's that time in the season to let the line-up roll out there without a peep from the gallery.

Price said he will play regulars when games are against teams in the race.

Then he plays the non-regulars one minute against a team, that while is really not threatened for a playoff spot......is still dealing with the Yankees trying to catch them.

The Mets are not in the race. Lutz should start as much as possible to see what you really have. Lutz has never started back to back games this year.

Price talks out of his A a lot it seems to me.....about everything, from day one.

[Tom Servo]

Ondrusey, you're doing a heck of a job.

[Ironman92]

20 base runners thru 6 2/3

[Ironman92]

TWENTY.

[Ironman92]

I AM rooting for a grand slam here....just saying

[Ironman92]

How about a quindrupal switch?

[toledodan]

I AM rooting for a grand slam here....just saying

maybe the trainwreck will lead to no more hoover, logan and lecure next season.

[Tom Servo]

You know who I feel bad for? The Reds social media team. They will have to listen to all of the criticism for this and they couldn't have less to do with it.

[Redsfansince72]

how about the ticket office.. who the heck wants to pay to watch this mess

[Ironman92]

how about the ticket office.. who the heck wants to pay to watch this mess

Vendors

[Redsfansince72]

i am putting all my Reds gear away.. not going to wear it till they fix this mess

[Tom Servo]

I like Corcino.

[Redsfansince72]

my question for Price "With your team not playing at all any good the last half of 2014, how can you get this team to get a Winning mindset going into 2015"?

[Ironman92]

I like Corcino.

I like pizza....both are better than LeJJ Hoovdrucure

[Ironman92]

Mets have left 9 runners on base thru 7 yet are leading by 9

[Ironman92]

No regular player should still be in this game, outside of Colon

[Redsfansince72]

i think of the Cards just played their backups, they would sweep the Reds now

[Redsfansince72]

1982 and 1983 were my worse years as a Reds fan.. this year is resembling those years and i hate to think what the fan base will think if 2015 is like this next year..

[Redsfansince72]

yea im sure those $60 Scouts seats are selling out right now..lol. maybe by Cards fans

[Redsfansince72]

all the Brewers need is a wake up playing the Reds...and they will feel better about themselves

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craft beer and a crap tem.. hmmm

[klw]

At Colon is still hitless.

[Ironman92]

Lol....a 41 year old is mowing us down and a 20 year old just homered

[Roy Tucker]

You guys are pretty hard core to hang in there with this turd of a game.

[toledodan]

I like Corcino.

jinx lol

[50YrRedsFan]

You guys are pretty hard core to hang in there with this turd of a game.

I'm sure you mean 'turd of a season'.

[Red Raindog]

You guys are pretty hard core to hang in there with this turd of a game.

was sick in bed all day -- can't sleep - but this game is giving me a relapse

[Tom Servo]

I'm sure you mean 'turd of a season'.
First half was fine.

[Red Raindog]

Lol....a 41 year old is mowing us down and a 20 year old just homered

what pitcher doesn't mow this team down? a short list

[Ironman92]

Assuming it's fireworks Friday because I can't fathom anyone staying for this

[50YrRedsFan]

First half was fine.

overall season.

[Ironman92]

what pitcher doesn't mow this team down? a short list

1. Jacob Turner

[Ironman92]

Frazier = clutch

[Tom Servo]

Frazier :jump:

#24, perhaps the most meaningless of all of them

[toledodan]

toddfather #24 comeback! :jump:

[50YrRedsFan]

what pitcher doesn't mow this team down? a short list


I bet if Hoover, LeCure, and Ondrusek were on other teams, they would.

[Redsfansince72]

i just hope this isnt a sign of things to come and the Reds are worse than the Astros for the next 5 years!! because the Cubs are coming and noway the Cards/Pirates and Brewers are worse than the Reds..:(

[Red Raindog]

1. Jacob Turner

he may still have another chance....

[Ironman92]

he may still have another chance....

He's 0-2 and was cut by Marlins after drilling him

[Ironman92]

Marlins WILL NOT reach base this inning.

Book it.

[kaldaniels]

By no means am I advocating this but managers and GM's have been fired for collapses like this in the past.

Ugly stuff.

[Redsfansince72]

i know many fans hated the thought of LaRussa coming here after last seasons failure, BUT he would have demanded better players from Walt.. NOT the yearly excuses not to make moves...just saying!

[Red Raindog]

He's 0-2 and was cut by Marlins after drilling him

Turner? -- The Cubs have him ---

[Ironman92]

i know many fans hated the thought of LaRussa coming here after last seasons failure, BUT he would have demanded better players from Walt.. NOT the yearly excuses not to make moves...just saying!

My grandma Louise would be much tougher on the players than we have seen in 15 years

[WVRedsFan]

You guys are pretty hard core to hang in there with this turd of a game.

I stopped by. Wish I had not. If wholesale changes are not made, it's going to be a lonely ballpark in 2015.

[Ironman92]

Turner? -- The Cubs have him ---

Yes, dear....after the picked him up when the Marlins released him after sucking against the Reds

[Redsfansince72]

i think a little leauge team could beat this team..:(

[Red Raindog]

Yes, dear....after the picked him up when the Marlins released him after sucking against the Reds

but -- as I said -- he may have another chance at the Reds ---

[WVRedsFan]

Holy cow. Send the kids back to Louisville.

[Roy Tucker]

This is pretty bad. The Mets suck.

[Redsfansince72]

it would be sweet if every fan got up and left the game in the first game against the Cards as soon as they are down 4-0.. maybe send a message

[WVRedsFan]

I cannot believe the decisions made with this team--from top to bottom.

[Redsfansince72]

this team needs another return of Rose... just like 1984.. becuse fans are not going to be buying tickets fior this mess in 2015 if major moves are not made. plus Rose would demand Bob get better players too..

[Tom Servo]

I like Corcino.
I still like him, but he kinda sucks.

[Ironman92]

but -- as I said -- he may have another chance at the Reds ---

He pitched Aug 3rd (his final start as a Marlin) allowed 9 hits, 2 BB and 5 ER in 4 inn....on Aug 27th for the Cubs he went 3 2/3 allowing 7 hits, 2 BB and Reds scored 6.

7 2/3 inn
16 hits
4 BB
11 runs

He could throw a no-hit shutout and still have a bad year vs the Reds

[Redsfansince72]

right now maybe its best Walt leaves for the D-Backs..because i dont feel he will do whats best for this team "Small Window" doesnt excite me at all..

[Ironman92]

This is pretty bad. The Mets suck.

But are playing smart and hard

[Tom Servo]

On the bright side the Mets didn't score in the 3rd inning.

[Ironman92]

right now maybe its best Walt leaves for the D-Backs..because i dont feel he will do whats best for this team "Small Window" doesnt excite me at all..

Not a candidate

[Ironman92]

On the bright side the Mets didn't score in the 3rd inning.

That would be 63 base runners ago

[Red Raindog]

He pitched Aug 3rd (his final start as a Marlin) allowed 9 hits, 2 BB and 5 ER in 4 inn....on Aug 27th for the Cubs he went 3 2/3 allowing 7 hits, 2 BB and Reds scored 6.

7 2/3 inn
16 hits
4 BB
11 runs

He could throw a no-hit shutout and still have a bad year vs the Reds

understand -- but him mowing down the Reds now -- would it shock you? it wouldn't me

[Redsfansince72]

should have let Schumaker pitch...

[Ironman92]

Mets are up to 27 base runners

[AmarilloRed]

Well, it's slightly better than a one run loss. Right?

[Mutaman]

I swear it looks like this organization went through a period of 3 or 4 years where they didn't sign anyone with any talent except for hamilton.

[WVRedsFan]

This team is the same one that won 90 games last year. The reason Price is giving away wins is 33 one-run losses. Bad judgment. Playing the kids means losing and no one wants to see losses regardless of the position in the standings.

[Ironman92]

It's not a top 5 because it wasn't necessary...just impressively entertaining

[dougdirt]

it would be sweet if every fan got up and left the game in the first game against the Cards as soon as they are down 4-0.. maybe send a message

You paying for their tickets?

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This team is the same one that won 90 games last year. The reason Price is giving away wins is 33 one-run losses. Bad judgment. Playing the kids means losing and no one wants to see losses regardless of the position in the standings.

Playing the kids means we won't lose 14-3? Or is it 17-3 now? Maybe they scored a touchdown and went for two and its 22-3. Who knows. No one is watching.

[Ironman92]

This team is the same one that won 90 games last year. The reason Price is giving away wins is 33 one-run losses. Bad judgment. Playing the kids means losing and no one wants to see losses regardless of the position in the standings.

He didn't play the kids tonight and the other night the kids had rallied from down 7 and then the regulars came in to lose it.

[Mutaman]

This team is the same one that won 90 games last year. The reason Price is giving away wins is 33 one-run losses. Bad judgment. Playing the kids means losing and no one wants to see losses regardless of the position in the standings.

Except for those 99% of the posters who have been saying for the past week that they should play the kids.

[Redsfansince72]

You paying for their tickets?

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Playing the kids means we won't lose 14-3? Or is it 17-3 now? Maybe they scored a touchdown and went for two and its 22-3. Who knows. No one is watching.

nope just thought of sending a message.. goodness!

[Ironman92]

You paying for their tickets?

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Playing the kids means we won't lose 14-3? Or is it 17-3 now? Maybe they scored a touchdown and went for two and its 22-3. Who knows. No one is watching.

Always about money with you Doug. Let loose a little.

And I'm still watching

[Tom Servo]

I genuinely believe we will be good, competitive team in 2015. But this collapse sure has been hard to take.

[Mutaman]

nope just thought of sending a message.. goodness!

I think everyone has the message.

[Ironman92]

Except for those 99% of the posters who have been saying for the past week that they should play the kids.

91.4% of stats are made up

[Ironman92]

Mets have left 12 on base and are up by 11...

[Roy Tucker]

Taking the wife down on Monday night. After paying for parking and dinner and $10 beers, I sure as hell am not leaving early.

[dougdirt]

Always about money with you Doug. Let loose a little.

And I'm still watching

It is about money when you have very, very little of it.

And don't lie. You aren't watching. Everyone knows you are a robot.

[PepperJack]

This team is the same one that won 90 games last year. The reason Price is giving away wins is 33 one-run losses. Bad judgment. Playing the kids means losing and no one wants to see losses regardless of the position in the standings.


Choo
Votto
Arroyo
Cingrani being healthy and better
Bruce being healthy and better

Say that this team is not the same team as last year's version.

You know there are more differences with this team than who spends the whole game in the dugout.

I know there is frustration, but you are better than being one of the banana phone callers who visit this place in times like this.

[Roy Tucker]

The green unies with the red socks doesn't make it.

[Ironman92]

Taking the wife down on Monday night. After paying for parking and dinner and $10 beers, I sure as hell am not leaving early.

You can't take that money with you

[Ironman92]

Choo
Votto
Arroyo
Cingrani being healthy and better
Bruce being healthy and better

Say that this team is not the same team as last year's version.

You know there are more differences with this team than who spends the whole game in the dugout.

I know there is frustration, but you are better than being one of the banana phone callers who visit this place in times like this.

Homer and JJ say hi.

[WVRedsFan]

Choo
Votto
Arroyo
Cingrani being healthy and better
Bruce being healthy and better

Say that this team is not the same team as last year's version.

You know there are more differences with this team than who spends the whole game in the dugout.

I know there is frustration, but you are better than being one of the banana phone callers who visit this place in times like this.
Very frustrated, but making things worse is not the answer. There is little talent in the minors, that's evident.

[Ironman92]

I'm ready for my BHam inside the parker

[WVRedsFan]

Merry Xmas, Roy!

[Ironman92]

Frazier bats because....well screw Negron

[WVRedsFan]

Frazier bats because....well screw Negron
Same result. One pitch, one swing, one out.

[Ironman92]

Same result. One pitch, one swing, one out.

Negron has earned himself a look as a backup infielder next year....Todd didn't really need a 5th AB after 2 baserunning gaffes and a throwing error

[Stray]

Playing GM for a day...

If I were in Walt's shoes I really dunno what I'd do. It's a bit of a mess atm.

Although I will say I'm surprised how little this disappointing season has bothered me. Maybe my subconscious saw it coming.

[PepperJack]

Very frustrated, but making things worse is not the answer. There is little talent in the minors, that's evident.

There is talent, it's just at AA or lower for the most part.

A good example that helps me keep calm is Boston, they let Ellsbury and Drew walk, tried their younger players at CF and SS, and it didn't work out for them. They have had their share of injuries too, and misses in the free agent market, but they have money to throw at the problems they have.

The Reds need to be creative to fix theirs. The last time they had a losing season, Castellini found some money, and Jocketty acquired, Latos, Marshall, Ludwick, and Madson(darn injuries), while going with other changes in the bullpen and bench.

I have faith they can find a new LF, maybe SS, will have a good idea if Bruce can rebound, and make the necessary changes to the bullpen and bench again.

[Tom Servo]

All in favor of burning the Green jerseys?

[dubc47834]

I'm ready for my BHam inside the parker

I'm gonna win that thread. I said no inside the park HR this year!

[Larkin Fan]

One thing is for sure, the Reds play as bad as those damn green uniforms look.

[WVRedsFan]

Negron has earned himself a look as a backup infielder next year....Todd didn't really need a 5th AB after 2 baserunning gaffes and a throwing error
I agree.

[WVRedsFan]

All in favor of burning the Green jerseys?

Aye

[KronoRed]

Holy cow. Send the kids back to Louisville.

Can't do that, would only have 5 guys left.