9/9/14 Cardinals of St. Louis, Missouri vs the Reds Baseball Club of Cincinnati

[klw]

#Reds lineup vs. Cardinals (7:10 p.m. start):
Hamilton CF
Pena 1B
Frazier 3B
Mesoraco C
Phillips 2B
Ludwick LF
Heisey RF
Cozart SS
Leake P

vs
Michael Wacha, RHP
5-5, 2.80 ERA

Wacha made his first start since June 17 and threw 50 pitches over three innings against the Brewers. Wacha should be cleared to push to 65-70 pitches his next time out. His curveball was especially sharp in his return.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_09_09_slnmlb_cinmlb_1

Weather could prove interesting:
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[Tom Servo]

Every day I look for Yorman Rodriguez's name, and every day I am disappointed.

[cumberlandreds]

Every day I look for Yorman Rodriguez's name, and every day I am disappointed.

I am assuming he's been sent back to Louisville for the winter along with Lutz?

[KittyDuran]

I am assuming he's been sent back to Louisville for the winter along with Lutz?

Believe Lutz is still around and doing some PR for the club.
https://twitter.com/reds/status/509385996681490432

[Ironman92]

Leake has no chance tonight the the brutal schedule of his last eight starts getting to he can't get out the Cardinals left is and won't be able to get out Holliday or Molina so it's going be a long night again

[dubc47834]

Leake has no chance tonight the the brutal schedule of his last eight starts getting to he can't get out the Cardinals left is and won't be able to get out Holliday or Molina so it's going be a long night again

I see what you did there!

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Wacha Wacha Wacha

[Tom Servo]

Rocco! :jump:

#23

[NebraskaRed]

Runs! In the first inning! I'm going to count this game as a win no matter how it turns out.

[klw]

Me- So-Raking!!!

[Beltway]

The two hitters who reached base saw more than 5 pitches, each. The three hitters who got out saw 4 pitches total.

[texasdave]

Nice start.

[WVRedsFan]

Wacca having control problems--walks Hamilton and what do Pena (what's he doing batting second anyway?) and Frazier go up hacking for two outs on maybe three pitches. Mesorocco homers while seeing 7 pitches on a 3-2 count. Phillips lines out on the first pitch. No plate discipline at all, but that's not new.

[Ironman92]

Swinging away still, fortunately about 4 of the guys had good AB thru the first 2.

2nd time thru will be tough/brutal on Leake. Cards will get him for a bomb or 2

[Ironman92]

Pena walks ....Frazier swings early but finds the 5.5 hole

Meso looking for a fastball this AB

[klw]

Me-so-not-so-much-raking-that-time-around.

[Beltway]

Phillips has seen 4 pitches. He has swung at 3 of them, making two outs.

[Ironman92]

Lucky-ish double right on the line results in 1 run, likely 2 after Taveras gets him

[Ironman92]

Jay robs Luddy

[Ironman92]

Heisey wails at the first pitch but coincidently 4 other Reds also swung from the dugout

[Ironman92]

Wong robs Heisey on a liner up the middle

[Ironman92]

Cozart gets Jay to actually not get to a ball and triples

[757690]

I can't wait to see the pictures from the Thom Brenneman/Michael Wacha wedding.

[Ironman92]

Leake doubles and knocks him in.

[Ironman92]

Wow....completely robbed.

Lol at Thom actually raves a bit about another 2nd baseman. Can't believe he got to that and also caught it.....top 3 play of the day and saved a run. Wong saved 2 runs that inning in all.

[Ironman92]

Leake running the bases = runs the very next inning

[WVRedsFan]

3-1 Reds. Seems so strange to say.

[Beltway]

3-1 Reds. Seems so strange to say.
The bullpen hasn't pitched...yet.

[WVRedsFan]

Wong is just Wong there

And Mes drives another in making it 4-1 Reds

:)

[Kc61]

Mes with another RBI hit. When you consider how little support he gets in the order, Mes is having a super year.

[Ironman92]

Lol....Wong makes two great plays (one unbelievable) and ten botches one I would make lol.

Evens out, but of course Frazier on the receiving end...great karma he has!

[WVRedsFan]

6-1 with Phillips double. Pinch me.

[Larkin Fan]

Who are these Reds?

[Ironman92]

Is Phillips healthier? 3 for last 6, 6 for last 16 with 5 game hitting streak.

[Roy Tucker]

Guess I picked the wrong night.

The speedster Ludwick with an infield single.

[Tom Servo]

An infield hit for Ludwick. Wonders never cease.

[WVRedsFan]

Heisey is eternally 0-2 on the count.

[WVRedsFan]

Cozart singles, driving in another. 7-1.

[Tom Servo]

"The route is on" says Thom, implying that baseball games end after 5 innings and that the Reds haven't been known to blow leads.

[WVRedsFan]

Slugger Leake hits into a Phillips to end the inning.

[Ironman92]

"The route is on" says Thom, implying that baseball games end after 5 innings and that the Reds haven't been known to blow leads.

Yeah, immediately went into my anti-jinx dance.

Thom blew it....Leake will give up 1-3 runs in the 6th and then the bullpen will make everyone cringe.

[Ironman92]

Slugger Leake hits into a Phillips to end the inning.

My ways are catching on lol


But good one.

[klw]

My ways are catching on lol


But good one.

WVRedsFan and others of us have been here long enough to remember when the game threads referred to the GIDP as a Casey. :p

[Ironman92]

Here come all the runs that Thom jinxed into

[Ironman92]

Peralta is too lucky for a cheater....Leake can't get these guys out

[Roy Tucker]

As long as Leake stays down, he's ok. Up is another story.

[Ironman92]

WVRedsFan and others of us have been here long enough to remember when the game threads referred to the GIDP as a Casey. :p

No way....Casey was greatest hitter ever. I heard George Grande.

[Ironman92]

Leake unlucky that ball went out of play....now a gapper scores 2

[Roy Tucker]

Leake k's himself out of a jam. Nice.

[WVRedsFan]

WVRedsFan and others of us have been here long enough to remember when the game threads referred to the GIDP as a Casey. :p

Yessir. Never will forget Joe Garishiola (Sp) saying Casey ran like he had suction cups on his feet :)

[Ironman92]

Leake is a ball landing on the foul line from 6 scoreless.

[Larkin Fan]

My ways are catching on lol


But good one.

Those methods long preceded you.

[Ironman92]

Yessir. Never will forget Joe Garishiola (Sp) saying Casey ran like he had suction cups on his feet :)

Lol....you nailed the spelling! Great job!

[Ironman92]

Those methods long preceded you.

Sure they did....but I've been calling pop ups to Pitcher, catcher and first base a Heisey all year and much of last year....never saw anyone else do it in the past two seasons until very recently a few have added their own.

I called it a Janish before joining on here though

[Ironman92]

Pena with 3 walks tonight. Joey's not impressed.

[Roy Tucker]

I think I remember Casey actually took running lessons.

[WVRedsFan]

Great at bat by the Toddfather. Not.

[Ironman92]

Pena walks and Frazier just wails at 2 way out of the zone and whiffs?

[WVRedsFan]

I think I remember Casey actually took running lessons.

Well, Roy, it didn't help.

[Larkin Fan]

I think I remember Casey actually took running lessons.

All I know is that when Casey was running, everybody had better clear the way or else get steamrolled.

[757690]

I think I remember Casey actually took running lessons.

From whom? Greg Luzinski?

[Ironman92]

I think I remember Casey actually took running lessons.

We speak of BHam, Deion, Eric the Red, Joe Morgan and others, but when discussing elite, world class speed for whatever reason we always omit Casey.

[Larkin Fan]

No way....Casey was greatest hitter ever. I heard George Grande.

Didn't Marty say the Perez and Casey were the best Reds 1B's of his career a few weeks ago?

[BCubb2003]

Well, Roy, it didn't help.

Think of how much slower he'd be without the lessons.

[Ironman92]

2 easy walks by Pena and Meso, Frazier swings at 2 out of the zone.

Phillips takes first pitch

[Roy Tucker]

I hope Mez stays healthy for a long, long time.

[Ironman92]

BP a bit disgusted there were 2 outs because it definitely cost him another DP

[Roy Tucker]

Casey went to the George Grande school of gee whiz.

[WVRedsFan]

Hate to bring this up, but the lineup without the black hole that is Jay a Bruce is doing just fine.

[Ironman92]

Didn't Marty say the Perez and Casey were the best Reds 1B's of his career a few weeks ago?

I always watch and rarely hear Marty...but sounds about right.

They always spoke how great he was with RISP and then he bats 3rd almost all season and drove in 57? Without walking much

[Ironman92]

Hate to bring this up, but the lineup without the black hole that is Jay a Bruce is doing just fine.

Who?

[WVRedsFan]

Who?

Bruuuuuuce

[Ironman92]

Here come the runs. SMH

[Ironman92]

Nice job by Fox showing no part of Taveras hit down the line.

[Roy Tucker]

Good thing Walt wasn't GM in '99. He would have given Casey a quarter billion dollars.

[Larkin Fan]

I always watch and rarely hear Marty...but sounds about right.

They always spoke how great he was with RISP and then he bats 3rd almost all season and drove in 57? Without walking much

I'm like you and always watch, but I remember someone mentioning it in a game thread recently.

[Ironman92]

Can't get out these Cardinals lefties

[Ironman92]

I'm like you and always watch, but I remember someone mentioning it in a game thread recently.

I'm usually on here but don't recall that one. I believe it.

Casey only got thrown out once by the LF on a ball that four-hopped him.

[Ironman92]

Wong...can't fool him

[WVRedsFan]

Leake and Phillips leaving the game.

[Ironman92]

Billy....had it man.

Here comes two runs onto the ERA courtesy of the bullpen.

[Tom Servo]

Skinny out, Jumbo in.

[Larkin Fan]

Jumbo comes into to a jumbo mess.

[Ironman92]

Leake and Phillips leaving the game.

Neither are gamers.

[Larkin Fan]

Jumbo comes into to a jumbo mess.

That being said, Leake pitched a great game.

[Tom Servo]

Damnit, put in Broxt...oh wait.

[Roy Tucker]

DP grounder but in the 5.5 hole. 7-2.

[Tom Servo]

I have no confidence that the Reds can win this game lol

[Roy Tucker]

Carpenter k's and then lines out to Billy.

[DocRed]

MLB umps are consistently the worst in all of sports

[Larkin Fan]

Crap. This isn't looking good.

[WVRedsFan]

This is so familiar.

[Kc61]

I think the Reds bullpen can stay pretty much intact next year.

Only guys I would replace are Hoover, Lecure, Parra, Diaz, Ondrusek, and Marshall.

If he gets out of this, Diaz can stay.

[Larkin Fan]

Nm

[Ironman92]

Hamilton didn't quite hold onto a sliding grab we often see him make....hit instead of out.

Ump doesn't ring up Carpenter....hit instead of out

Pena doesn't throw to 2nd for 3rd out.

Leake couldn't pitch this many innings without the Reds defense allowing him to....

[Ironman92]

This is so familiar.

Scoring 7 runs and then losing?

[Tom Servo]

Dumpster fire.

[Larkin Fan]

Why don't they just put Hoover in and get this thing over with?

[Roy Tucker]

Augh.

[Ironman92]

There is no ability to, but would love to see this inning play out if Billy makes that catch.

[Ironman92]

Skip isn't in....we got this

[Ironman92]

Thanks Brayan...you can stay

[Larkin Fan]

What a freakin' play by Peña!

[WVRedsFan]

Holy crap. Walt's best acquisition? Pena.

[Roy Tucker]

Long slow whistle. Dodged a huge bullet there.

[Beltway]

Oh my god, that was an agonizing inning.

[Ironman92]

Jumbo only allowed 4 batters to reach base.

[Ironman92]

Holy crap. Walt's best acquisition? Pena.

Hannahannnahannahan ...you are so forgetful

[Ironman92]

Oh my god, that was an agonizing inning.

Stressful too!

[Mutaman]

Really curious as to who will pitch the 8th.

[WVRedsFan]

Luddy is eternally on an 0-2 count

[Ironman92]

Luddy is eternally on an 0-2 count

You spelled Heisey incorrectly

[WVRedsFan]

I'm old.

And forgetful

[Ironman92]

Really curious as to who will pitch the 8th.

Skip or bust

[Ironman92]

With Masterson's odd righty delivery....Heisey might fan on 2 pitches. (According to ELIAS) that would be a record

[Ironman92]

Don't bunt him... Let him whiff or pop out

[mdccclxix]

I really don't trust Diaz next year like some do. He is a 6th inning guy at best. Not enough life on his breaking balls.

[WVRedsFan]

Nice bunt. Well, effective anyway.

[Ironman92]

Nice bunt. Well, effective anyway.

I don't like the call....who is going to knock him in?....and Masterson can't throw enough strikes.

[757690]

Why bunt against Masterson? He's a guy you want to hit against.

[Ironman92]

Why bunt against Masterson? He's a guy you want to hit against.

Or walk

[WVRedsFan]

Cozart walks.

[Ironman92]

We gave a wild pitcher a free out.

[WVRedsFan]

I don't like the call....who is going to knock him in?....and Masterson can't throw enough strikes.

Beats Chris striking out, I guess.

[Roy Tucker]

Matheny decides he might be able to win this game. Masterston out.

[Larkin Fan]

Really curious as to who will pitch the 8th.

Hoover. He's Price's go-to guy.

[Roy Tucker]

Yeah, Heisey bunt made no sense.

Well, it made sense that Heisey would try it.

[WVRedsFan]

It's up to Billy who is failing as the season ends.

[WVRedsFan]

Well, our banjo hitters both K and we go to the 8th. Hoover time?

[Roy Tucker]

I think Billy is wearing out.

[Ironman92]

Beats Chris striking out, I guess.

He's not been striking out much of late...if Cozy can walk on 5 pitches anyone can

[Kc61]

I think Billy is wearing out.

Guy played way too much this year IMO. Not that there was any great alternative.
Parra is in.

[Ironman92]

Yeah, Heisey bunt made no sense.

Well, it made sense that Heisey would try it.

I'll bet $6 that he was signaled to.

[WVRedsFan]

Parra in. Hide your women and children, folks. This ain't gonna be pretty.

[Roy Tucker]

Cardinal ABs and Reds ABs are like night and day.

[WVRedsFan]

Oh boy..

[Larkin Fan]

I think Billy is wearing out.

My thoughts as well. The 162 game MLB schedule is exhausting both physically and mentally, most especially to a first year player.

[Ironman92]

That guy smashes everything

[Roy Tucker]

I'll bet $6 that he was signaled to.

Ok, I'll take that bet ;)

[dougdirt]

That guy smashes everything

Except for everything against non-Reds pitchers.

[WVRedsFan]

Reds batters are hackers. Apparently they've been taught that way or else Dusty ruined them. One of the many reasons why they don't score runs. Too many quick outs the take pitches away from the opposition pitcher.

[Roy Tucker]

After a bit of a wobbly start, Parra gets out of the inning with little fuss.

[ac084c]

This guy was in high A ball to start the season.

[Roy Tucker]

For a backup catcher, Pena has had a nice year.

[757690]

This guy was in high A ball to start the season.

Can get it up to triple digits, I heard.

[Larkin Fan]

Can they fit anymore vowels in this pitcher's last name?

[WVRedsFan]

Frazier at 0-2. Not eternally, though.

[ac084c]

Can they fit anymore vowels in this pitcher's last name?

That's a Pacific islander for you.

Pronounced Too-ee-vay-la-la

[Roy Tucker]

A live arm.

[Ironman92]

Lutz bomb coming

[Roy Tucker]

Herr Lutz.

[Larkin Fan]

That's a Pacific islander for you.

Pronounced Too-ee-vay-la-la

You can say that again.

[Ironman92]

Except for everything against non-Reds pitchers.

Now Doug....I'll have you know I've seen him have 3 AB that I can recall and he's hit 3 line drives. Sample size certainly not an issue here.

[WVRedsFan]

News flash. Pena is slow.

[Larkin Fan]

Bourgeois is making a case for being part of the 2015 bench.

[Ironman92]

Oppo by Boozjwah (sp) lol

[Tom Servo]

Bourgeois is making a case for being part of the 2015 bench.
Yeah I don't see a lot in him but he's taking advantage of his callup.

[Ironman92]

News flash. Pena is slow.

Yeah...been on base 4 times today to prove it.

Great first step at first on defense!

[klw]

Pronounced Too-ee-vay-la-la

Isn't that a line in the chorus for "Come on Eileen"

[Ironman92]

Ha ha!

[WVRedsFan]

Hi-C! It's our night.

[Roy Tucker]

I thought he caught that.

Oops no. Off his glove.

[Tom Servo]

yay 9-4

[Ironman92]

They even out! Jay would've had it.

[Tom Servo]

I thought he caught that.
Same, and it turns out he never even had it in his glove.

[Ironman92]

Hi-C! It's our night.

Wins are fun.

Go Reds!

Poop on the Cards.

[WVRedsFan]

Hi-C! It's our night. 9-4 now.

[757690]

Grichuk should have had it. It went over his glove.

[Ironman92]

Team win...woo hoo!

[Ironman92]

131 RBI in 140 games....nice

[WVRedsFan]

Cozy hits a Cozart. On to the ninth.

[Ironman92]

Cozart with a deep fly to the dirt of SS

[dougdirt]

131 RBI in 140 games....nice
Only played in 134 and 9 of those were pinch hitting appearances.

[Roy Tucker]

Oh lord.

[Ironman92]

We've had 20 base runners in 8 inn!

Our catchers reached base 8 times!

[WVRedsFan]

Ah. The equalizer. Hoover!!!!!

[Tom Servo]

They bring in Hoover so the few fans in attendance can get a souvenir HR ball.

[Ironman92]

Only played in 134 and 9 of those were pinch hitting appearances.

When that dominant....why didn't they raise him a level? Big prospect above him? Didn't want either to change positions?

[Ironman92]

Hoover will be perfect

[757690]

Price puts in Hoover to start the inning with a 5 run lead, because he wants to add to Chapman's save chances.

[Ironman92]

Probably sit Pena for Hannahannnahannahan, Tucker will catch for Meso and place Bruce back into the lineup tomorrow

[757690]

When that dominant....why didn't they raise him a level? Big prospect above him? Didn't want either to change positions?

If you're asking about Marquez Smith, he's 29, in single A, and is a 5 foot 9 RH 1B.

[Ironman92]

Pujols been pretty good this year Thom.

[WVRedsFan]

Very bad throw. Hope that's not the beginning.

[Ironman92]

Cozart with lazy footwork resulting in an error

[Ironman92]

If you're asking about Marquez Smith, he's 29, in single A, and is a 5 foot 9 RH 1B.

Thanks for that info...but my question remains.

[WVRedsFan]

Hoover at 21 pitches to 3 batters.

And Hoover gives up his run.

[Ironman92]

Hoover giving up rockets

[Roy Tucker]

Heisey runs around and let's a ball go over his head. 9-5.

[757690]

Thanks for that info...but my question remains.

He's not a prospect, so no need to advance him. He's also a hero in Bakersfield, and probably enjoying every minute of it.

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Hoover is nothing if not consistent.

[Roy Tucker]

Ok, let's get Harold in.

[Ironman92]

Double switch? Lol

[Tom Servo]

The Great Depression

[WVRedsFan]

Hoover goes 3-2 on everyone. 30 pitches and he's out of there. Why bring him in when you know what's going to happen?

[toledodan]

Hoover out of chances yet?

[757690]

Price puts in Hoover to start the inning with a 5 run lead, because he wants to add to Chapman's save chances.

I was joking.

[toledodan]

Let's get chappy the save lol

[Roy Tucker]

I'd make a bet that Hoover is done as a Red.

[Ironman92]

He's not a prospect, so no need to advance him. He's also a hero in Bakersfield, and probably enjoying every minute of it.

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Hoover is nothing if not consistent.

I still see zero reasons not to see if something has changed and if he could do it in AA or whatever.

[WVRedsFan]

So disgusted with Price's decisions.

[klw]

So Yorman can't even go stand in RF while Aroldis K's somebody?

[Roy Tucker]

I still think Chapman tips his pitches.

[Tom Servo]

We're good again! :beerme:

[Roy Tucker]

Yay.

[Ironman92]

Hey everyone...we scored 9 runs and beat the Cardinals woo hoo

[miamiredskin]

Too bad the Cards fans go home disappointed. Or back to their hotels, anyway.

[Tony Cloninger]

Hoover goes 3-2 on everyone. 30 pitches and he's out of there. Why bring him in when you know what's going to happen?

I would love to know as well. I would love for this be questioned, and the GM asked why he was even brought back up.

Did this organization just turn stupid and obtuse over the winter?

[WVRedsFan]

Reds bullpen tonight: 3 innings, 6 hits, 2 runs-one earned, 3 walks and 3 K's. Last two games. Bad.

[WVRedsFan]

For the record, Parra got the hold and not Hoover.