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Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 10:55 AM
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Ironman92
04-12-2015, 10:57 AM
Took Price 1 loss to cater to Brandon.

Ironman92
04-12-2015, 10:59 AM
Holy sample size batman

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/12/e9197cd4025ccd1deb45185f280a191e.jpg

NebraskaRed
04-12-2015, 11:04 AM
Took Price 1 loss to cater to Brandon.

He's 2 for 6 against Martinez, so maybe that's it?

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 11:11 AM
Also the 6-8 hitters are kinda lousy, so BP wasn't going to bat any lower than 5th in this lineup anyway.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 11:15 AM
Maybe it's no big deal.

Larkin Fan
04-12-2015, 11:20 AM
even with two starters resting today what exactly has BP done to earn a promotion in the order? I must have missed it.

757690
04-12-2015, 11:21 AM
I'm not buying then"pouty BP" memo. The guy has even a team player from day one and has done whatever was asked of him. People forget he was a SS, but switched to 2B to accommodate the team, and never asked to be moved back.

ac084c
04-12-2015, 11:26 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCZSAvTWgAAd4wg.jpg

GADawg
04-12-2015, 11:33 AM
I'm not buying then"pouty BP" memo. The guy has even a team player from day one and has done whatever was asked of him. People forget he was a SS, but switched to 2B to accommodate the team, and never asked to be moved back.

It's kinda like politicians hoping if you say it enough people will start to believe it....happened here methinks

reds1869
04-12-2015, 11:41 AM
The only other candidate in that lineup to bat cleanup is Bruce. BP makes sense there when Pena gets the start.

mth123
04-12-2015, 11:44 AM
I don't see it as a big deal. I think it was pretty obvious that Mes would sit so Pena could work with Raisel. The team seems to view Phillips as a guy who can adapt to different roles better than Bruce, so Phillips moves and Bruce stays put. Seems stupid. The roles aren't much different from 2 - 7 in the order. The lead-off guy has a little different job but the difference is secondary and I think hitting in front of the pitcher can mess a guy up so that is probably a consideration. I hope the game doesn't end with the Reds down by two, Votto on base and Bruce in the on-deck circle. I'd rather have Bruce up there in need of a late jack to tie the game, but other than that, I can't see that it matters much.

mth123
04-12-2015, 11:47 AM
The only other candidate in that lineup to bat cleanup is Bruce. BP makes sense there when Pena gets the start.

Why? Bruce, Boesch and Pena is three lefties in a row (I know Pena is a SH, but as a righty he hits like a pitcher). I thought that was a no, no in the old school Reds line-up making 101 class that the team seems to require its managers follow..

I don't think it matters much, just curious why BP makes more sense.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 12:08 PM
I'm not buying then"pouty BP" memo. The guy has even a team player from day one and has done whatever was asked of him. People forget he was a SS, but switched to 2B to accommodate the team, and never asked to be moved back.

BP long remains one of my favorite reds. Colorful and friendly personality, gamer, defensive skills surpassing most, has showed plenty of offense in his being the longest reds tenure, appears to be having a lot of fun on the field, and interacts with the fans and community like no other. Hope he gets a ring with the reds!

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 12:14 PM
I look at the guys available and don't see the BP pouting thing either. It has to be either him or Jay. Byrd is sitting, too, and I sure wouldn't put Boesch in the cleanup spot. As long as he doesn't stay in the 4 spot when Mes returns.


I am really hyped up to see Iglesias make his first start. Can't wait for this game to start!

dubc47834
04-12-2015, 12:40 PM
Took Price 1 loss to cater to Brandon.

Takes you 0 losses to find an excuse to bash BP

Roush's socks
04-12-2015, 12:44 PM
Kind of like unwrapping a gift and not knowing what you're getting. Been waiting to see Iglesias. Hopefully the gift is something we need and not a toaster or a paper weight.

dubc47834
04-12-2015, 12:47 PM
I think if Price was catering to BP he wouldn't have came north as the 7 hole hitter!

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 12:48 PM
Resting my starters on my fantasy squad too. Great minds.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 01:03 PM
Don't be shocked if BP winds up hitting cleanup more often.

I think the 4-7 hitters will move around quite a bit. Hard to tell who will be the hotter guys (maybe 4-5) and not so hot (maybe 6-7) at any point in time.

I think they are comfortable with Frazier hitting third. He's a reasonable OBP man and has as much power as anyone. But 4-7 could get changed quite a bit, particularly if Mes is more comfortable lower down.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:07 PM
Excited to see what Iggy Iglesias can do.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:09 PM
Wow, this is a sellout? Nice.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:12 PM
Man, I'm feeling incredibly nervous FOR Iglesias, not about him.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:12 PM
Iggy lookin' good so far!

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:12 PM
So far, so good...

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:14 PM
Fastball topping out at 93 ... with good movement.

- - - Updated - - -

I love this kid already. Love him.

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:14 PM
Rais-K

Larkin Fan
04-12-2015, 01:14 PM
He's looking good on the mound. This is incredibly exciting.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:15 PM
First I've seen him. So I'm not going to overreact. But after 2 batters, I think I can say he's the best pitcher to ever play the game.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:16 PM
Now that was impressive. Everything was down with very good movement. We might have a gem here, kids.

#HolySmallSampleSize

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:16 PM
Slight change, going with Rice-K. Sentiment remains.

Larkin Fan
04-12-2015, 01:17 PM
Great first inning!

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:17 PM
First I've seen him. So I'm not going to overreact. But after 2 batters, I think I can say he's the best pitcher to ever play the game.
:laugh:

M2
04-12-2015, 01:18 PM
All bow down to the Demon's Head.

NebraskaRed
04-12-2015, 01:18 PM
Derrick Goold ‏@dgoold 1m1 minute ago
Very limited information/video available on #Reds starter Iglesias. And we know how #Cardinals rely on video for their advance scouting.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 01:20 PM
RBR

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:20 PM
Billy

Kc61
04-12-2015, 01:21 PM
Keep hitting grounders, Billy.

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:22 PM
Think the other St. Louis pitchers make fun of Martinez for only throwing 95?

Larkin Fan
04-12-2015, 01:22 PM
Joey just swung at ball four. lol

RedsfaninMT
04-12-2015, 01:23 PM
Joey just swung at ball four. lol

Twice

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:26 PM
Crap!!!

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:26 PM
booooooooooooo

RedsfaninMT
04-12-2015, 01:26 PM
Did Thom just say "A standing ovation from Martinez on that play?" I have to say, I've never seen a player sit and applaud.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 01:27 PM
Welll...that's not a great start. Leadoff double by billy...gotta score that run everytime, 70% of the time.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 01:29 PM
All bow down to the Demon's Head.

Ra's al K-ool

757690
04-12-2015, 01:30 PM
Hardest hit ball by BP so far this season. Great play by Jay took away the RBI.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 01:32 PM
2nd Least favorite cardinal... jon jay.

cbowen2112
04-12-2015, 01:32 PM
Iglesias is getting squeezed low in the zone. Hope that doesn't effect his game plan.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:32 PM
He looks GOOD.

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:32 PM
Slider is NICE.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:33 PM
Are we thinking Rookie of the Year plus Cy Young?

Or ROY, Cy Young AND MVP?

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:33 PM
Wow....everything I could have hoped for so far

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:34 PM
Iglesias is getting squeezed low in the zone. Hope that doesn't effect his game plan.

That's what's amazing. He has got squeezed on a couple calls. And he's still mowing them down.

Tracy Jones
04-12-2015, 01:34 PM
Iglesias pitches like a harder throwing El Duque

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:34 PM
Mr. Iglesias is going to become a very, very popular Red at this rate

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:34 PM
Are we thinking Rookie of the Year plus Cy Young?

Or ROY, Cy Young AND MVP?

If he retires right now he's first-ballot HOF.

REDREAD
04-12-2015, 01:35 PM
even with two starters resting today what exactly has BP done to earn a promotion in the order? I must have missed it.

Who would you bat cleanup? Maybe Bruce, but that still pushes BP to #5. Price probably wants to split the lefties (and it's not like
#4 vs #5 makes a huge difference).

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
BRUCE!!!!

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
Bruuuuuuuuce

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
Catch that one, Jay. ;)

RedsfaninMT
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
Great to see that! Bruce hammering that pitch to CF.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
Bruuuuuuuuce! :jump:

Tracy Jones
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
Martinez pitches like a harder throwing Kevin Gregg

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:36 PM
Please be back, Jay Bruce. Please be back.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 01:37 PM
STL defense saving this dude.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:37 PM
Boesch robbed :(

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:37 PM
someone in last nights thread was moaning bc the Reds were starting Iglesias and the Cards starting Martinez. So far Martinez is being saved by D and Iglesias is nails.

757690
04-12-2015, 01:38 PM
Boesch looked safe to me.

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:38 PM
Looked like the umpire may have boetched that call.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:38 PM
Bleach was safe

Tracy Jones
04-12-2015, 01:38 PM
Safe

faffy42
04-12-2015, 01:39 PM
Safe. Tie goes to runner. Shoulda challenged.

cbowen2112
04-12-2015, 01:39 PM
Pena did not like that the low strike was called...and then deposits the pitch into left.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:39 PM
:beerme:
Looked like the umpire may have boetched that call.

Bravo

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:40 PM
Bleach was safe

Bleach???? I gotta take autocorrect off this iPad.

Stray
04-12-2015, 01:41 PM
That was a wild pitch and all, but Yadi's defense has looked terrible in this series.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:41 PM
Lets see Demon hit

NebraskaRed
04-12-2015, 01:41 PM
Molina ain't Molina.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:41 PM
If Iglesias drives home this run, Lord have mercy

Big Klu
04-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Jay Bruce - 184
12. Wally Post - 172
13. Brandon Phillips - 168
14. Joey Votto - 166
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

757690
04-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Safe. Tie goes to runner. Shoulda challenged.

That's the problem with the challenge rule. You only get one, so managers don't challenge early in the game. All close plays should be reviewed, and the decision should come from the review ump in the booth.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Iglesias pitches like a harder throwing El Duque

Was thinking the same thing. Great minds. (And us too!)

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Molina ain't Molina.

If he doesn't get right it may be a big factor in the Cards season - they rely on that guy a lot

cbowen2112
04-12-2015, 01:42 PM
He had a few good hacks...this kid has a legit stance and all.

Tracy Jones
04-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Lets see Demon hit

Looks like he has a chance up there at least

kaldaniels
04-12-2015, 01:43 PM
Safe. Tie goes to runner. Shoulda challenged.

*Ahem

I don't want to be the one to tell him...

wheels
04-12-2015, 01:44 PM
Serious question about Molina:

Does he have the flu or something? He looks like just doesn't feel very well. He moves slow, and he seems like he's in a daze.

I hope he's okay. This isn't the guy I'm used to hating and ragging on.

kaldaniels
04-12-2015, 01:45 PM
If he doesn't get right it may be a big factor in the Cards season - they rely on that guy a lot

It's petty to take pleasure in this but if Molina falls off a cliff now his HOF chances are gone.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:45 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCaDOKbVEAAdsZb.jpg:large

faffy42
04-12-2015, 01:45 PM
Agreed! Let's just get calls right.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:46 PM
oh my gosh = he made Molina look silly on that AB

wheels
04-12-2015, 01:47 PM
No No is a No Go.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 01:47 PM
Wong place to put that pitch.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:47 PM
1st hit off Iglesias for Wrong. Why do I hate that Wong guy. I just do....

BCubb2003
04-12-2015, 01:48 PM
Molina's lost a lot of weight, supposedly on purpose.

NebraskaRed
04-12-2015, 01:48 PM
Serious question about Molina:

Does he have the flu or something? He looks like just doesn't feel very well. He moves slow, and he seems like he's in a daze.

I hope he's okay. This isn't the guy I'm used to hating and ragging on.

Did he suffer a concussion recently? He definitely looks out of it.

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:48 PM
Kolten Wong is gonna tell his grandkids about the time he flared a single off Raisel Iglesias.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:48 PM
Iglesias is a converted SS, btw, so he should be able to handle the bat and play D on the mound

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 01:48 PM
That's the problem with the challenge rule. You only get one, so managers don't challenge early in the game. All close plays should be reviewed, and the decision should come from the review ump in the booth.

Disagree with that. Length of games already a hot topic. I do not want 2-3 minutes spent on a call like that, which still strikes me as 50/50. Just let the umps make the call and play on.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
1st hit off Iglesias for Wrong. Why do I hate that Wong guy. I just do....
If hating him is Wong, I don't want to be right.

NebraskaRed
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
Carlos Martinez can't bunt.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
BP with the D. 3 down. Woo

Tracy Jones
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
Vintage BP

dubc47834
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
Dang...BP looked like he was dogging it on that play!!!

Big Klu
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
Could have let that bunt drop, and possibly gotten a double play out of it.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 01:49 PM
League of Gold Glovers support the Demon.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:50 PM
If hating him is Wong, I don't want to be right.

Servo bless you.....that made me laugh out loud

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 01:50 PM
Iglesias is a converted SS, btw, so he should be able to handle the bat and play D on the mound

"Easier said than done." - Zack Cozart.

M2
04-12-2015, 01:50 PM
Raisel Ghul plague Cardinals

wheels
04-12-2015, 01:52 PM
Did he suffer a concussion recently? He definitely looks out of it.

Yeah. That's another possibility.

I could see him dropping off at the plate, but defensively, he's not even close.

757690
04-12-2015, 01:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCaDOKbVEAAdsZb.jpg:large

Why is Tim Lincecum hanging out with Usher?

mth123
04-12-2015, 01:53 PM
Disagree with that. Length of games already a hot topic. I do not want 2-3 minutes spent on a call like that, which still strikes me as 50/50. Just let the umps make the call and play on.

Ump in the booth dedicated to each game would take no longer to reverse that call than a second or two and would cause no delay between pitches. If that proves too costly, then reposition the second base ump to the booth where the look would be consistently better than on the field. The problem with the system is the appeal is to guys who aren't watching and need to cue it up and watch when the protest comes in. A dedicated replay ump would see it as quickly as you and I do.

kaldaniels
04-12-2015, 01:54 PM
Just got a text alert Bailey is starting for Louisville today FYI.

You all probably know that already.

dubc47834
04-12-2015, 01:54 PM
Why is Tim Lincecum hanging out with Usher?

I'll give ya Lincecum, but Usher, LOLOLOLOLOLOL

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 01:55 PM
38 pitches for Iglesias - I wonder what kind of count they are limiting him too?

wheels
04-12-2015, 01:57 PM
8900

NebraskaRed
04-12-2015, 01:58 PM
38 pitches for Iglesias - I wonder what kind of count they are limiting him too?

Matheny suggested they limit him to 39 pitches today.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
04-12-2015, 01:59 PM
So, given the tenor of the Reds management and FO, Marquis is tentatively staying in the rotation and Iglesias will either be in Louisville or the bullpen. My question is, will that last? Do you think the FO would make the switch from Marquis to Iglesias or Lorenzen within the first 2 months of the season?

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:00 PM
38 pitches for Iglesias - I wonder what kind of count they are limiting him too?

The question is not how many times Rasiel can handle throwing the baseball.

Rather, how many times the baseball can handle being thrown by Rasiel.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:00 PM
Even when Iglesias misses, it's not by much.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:00 PM
KKKK Holliday sit down

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 02:00 PM
Rice-KKKK

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2015, 02:00 PM
The lack of patience at the plate shown by the Reds thus far has been astounding.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:01 PM
IGGY looking GOOD!!!

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:01 PM
Molina has no idea against Iggy.

^ too bad that was Holliday, dummy.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:01 PM
So, given the tenor of the Reds management and FO, Marquis is tentatively staying in the rotation and Iglesias will either be in Louisville or the bullpen. My question is, will that last? Do you think the FO would make the switch from Marquis to Iglesias or Lorenzen within the first 2 months of the season?

The way Lorenzen pitched and Iglesias is pitching you have to think they force their way into the rotation sooner than later

WildcatFan
04-12-2015, 02:02 PM
I can't stop gushing over his slider.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:02 PM
The lack of patience at the plate shown by the Reds thus far has been astounding.

I agree - the thing that bugs me the most about the "cold" guys - they aren't even trying to see pitches

- - - Updated - - -

1st big league walk by Iglesias

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:02 PM
Ump in the booth dedicated to each game would take no longer to reverse that call than a second or two and would cause no delay between pitches. If that proves too costly, then reposition the second base ump to the booth whee the look would be consistently better than on the field. The problem with the system is the appeal is to guys who aren't watching and need to cue it up and watch when the protest comes in. A dedicated replay ump would see it as quickly as you and I do.

I'd be much better with this than he concept of "challenges." Still would prefer to just play on and let the umps handle it.

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:02 PM
Raisel Ghul: the inverse of the Chapman Blunder.

cbowen2112
04-12-2015, 02:03 PM
Getting squeezed badly now!

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:04 PM
1st extra base hit off Iggy

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:04 PM
This make Reynolds Batman?

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:04 PM
Todd has to knock that down.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:04 PM
calm down kid

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:05 PM
So, given the tenor of the Reds management and FO, Marquis is tentatively staying in the rotation and Iglesias will either be in Louisville or the bullpen. My question is, will that last? Do you think the FO would make the switch from Marquis to Iglesias or Lorenzen within the first 2 months of the season?
Obviously he's got the goods. Great movement, deception and getting guys out. Hopefully reds make decision based on skill set.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:05 PM
he can't buy a call that's for sure

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:06 PM
Whew!

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:06 PM
pitches out of his first jam

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:06 PM
Nice

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:06 PM
Nice work rook.

cbowen2112
04-12-2015, 02:06 PM
First pitch out of jam!

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:07 PM
Lazarus Pit provides many escapes from jams.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:08 PM
He is just missing on those low pitches....some of them seem really close but

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:08 PM
Homer with a 1-2-3 opening frame down in Louisville.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:09 PM
Cardinals channelling the Reds defense today

mth123
04-12-2015, 02:10 PM
Obviously he's got the goods. Great movement, deception and getting guys out. Hopefully reds make decision based on skill set.

My guess is both Iglesias and Lorenzen spend enough time in AAA to avoid Super two. They guaranteed Gregg and Marquis each $1.5 Million coming out of Spring. That was the decision and I think they give it at least until Memorial day on one of them and longer before both are gone. Injuries may change that, but if everyone stays healthy, we won't see them regularly until July IMO.

Gandalf the Red
04-12-2015, 02:11 PM
Just think of all the galactic tragedy that could've been avoided if only Qui Gon Jinn had realized Raisel Iglesias and not that punk Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One.

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:12 PM
Nice day for the washed up Right Fielder.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:12 PM
Cmon Bleach

11larkin11
04-12-2015, 02:12 PM
Liam Neeson enjoys the Qui Gon Jinn and Ras al Ghul references in this thread.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:13 PM
Liam Neeson enjoys the Qui Gon Jinn and Ras al Ghul references in this thread.

Too many pitches Taken today.

RedlegJake
04-12-2015, 02:14 PM
Cards announcer - this Boesch guy can really hit. K

BCubb2003
04-12-2015, 02:14 PM
Liam Neeson enjoys the Qui Gon Jinn and Ras al Ghul references in this thread.

You could say he's taken with them.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:15 PM
My guess is both Iglesias and Lorenzen spend enough time in AAA to avoid Super two. They guaranteed Gregg and Marquis each $1.5 Million coming out of Spring. That was the decision and I think they give it at least until Memorial day on one of them and longer before both are gone. Injuries may change that, but if everyone stays healthy, we won't see them regularly until July IMO.
I already like iggy better than marquis...just based on what I've seen in 4 innings of work. He's my #5.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:23 PM
Disaster

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:23 PM
I hate Matt Carpenter.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:25 PM
Nice baserunning, Heyward.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:25 PM
Everything up in zone now.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:25 PM
Figures... me and my big mouth.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:25 PM
I said it in the beginning of this thread. This Iglesias guy can't pitch.

757690
04-12-2015, 02:26 PM
Third time through the lineup blues

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:26 PM
Nice baserunning, Heyward.

TOOT TOOT

kbrake
04-12-2015, 02:27 PM
The Cardinals run the bases like crap. I'd love to give Iglesias the spot currently being held by Gregg.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:27 PM
Carpenter...3rd least favorite cardinal.

Caveat Emperor
04-12-2015, 02:28 PM
I'm getting a little tired of this team rolling over whenever St. Louis comes up on the schedule.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:29 PM
Gotta get the bats going. Reds be cold.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:30 PM
I wish there was a way Cozart never had to actually bat.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:31 PM
Way to give it a ride, Skippy. Now head to Pensacola.

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:31 PM
My goodness.

This one took a hard bad turn.

Larkin Fan
04-12-2015, 02:32 PM
Sad turn for this game. :(

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:32 PM
BILBO

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:32 PM
Swing Billy Swing

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
Holy Jumpin Jeeehosafats!!!

Billy just took 'em outa here!

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
Billy! :jump:

mth123
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
Wow Billy.

Ironman92
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
He wore out and lost his location a bit too quickly but I really like Iglesias. Looks like about 60 pitches was his max for a top team like the Cards in how they work you.

Pencil this dude in every 5

I won't be surprised if he is our 2nd best starter as the season unfolds.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
BILLY@@@@@@@

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
I'm getting a little tired of this team rolling over whenever St. Louis comes up on the schedule.


My goodness.

This one took a hard bad turn.



Sad turn for this game. :(

5th inning one run game, boyos!

Ironman92
04-12-2015, 02:33 PM
Billy Boy!

757690
04-12-2015, 02:34 PM
Billy should try to hit more ground balls ;)

Kc61
04-12-2015, 02:36 PM
Billy should try to hit more ground balls ;)

With a balanced offense, absolutely. He should hit grounder after grounder.

With this offense, he's learning that if you want to score hit a homer. Or have the guy after you hit a homer.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:38 PM
As big as the need is in the bullpen, I think I would be inclined to send Iglesias to Louisville for the rotation.

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:39 PM
As big as the need is in the bullpen, I think I would be inclined to send Iglesias to Louisville for the rotation.

Agreed. He looked gassed. He needs to get some innings under his belt.

kbrake
04-12-2015, 02:39 PM
As big as the need is in the bullpen, I think I would be inclined to send Iglesias to Louisville for the rotation.

I'd be fine with that for awhile but they will have to watch his innings anyways so at some point I'd like to see him in the Reds bullpen.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:41 PM
Yessirreeee

WVRedsFan
04-12-2015, 02:42 PM
It's been a great start, but the only thing that concerns me is, once again, our lack of hitting except for the HR ball. It's worrisome that so far, we've seen little from Phillips, Byrd, Bruce, and (as usual) Cozart. Hopefully, that will change.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 02:44 PM
I expect Lorenzen and Iglesias to be AAA starters for much of this season. And join the Reds' rotation when ready.

If they get September call ups, then maybe they work in the pen. But basically, I think those two will be starters and should be part of the Opening Day 2016 rotation.

I do not think the Reds will move them back and forth from rotation to bullpen. Except for September when you just stick guys in the pen to get a taste of the big leagues.

RedsfaninMT
04-12-2015, 02:46 PM
It's been a great start, but the only thing that concerns me is, once again, our lack of hitting except for the HR ball. It's worrisome that so far, we've seen little from Phillips, Byrd, Bruce, and (as usual) Cozart. Hopefully, that will change.

I've actually been pretty happy with Jay's start. An over .350 OBP is a very good sign to me, driven by 4 BB.

757690
04-12-2015, 02:47 PM
Key inning for Martinez. Heart of the Reds lineup. Third time through.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 02:48 PM
It's been a great start, but the only thing that concerns me is, once again, our lack of hitting except for the HR ball. It's worrisome that so far, we've seen little from Phillips, Byrd, Bruce, and (as usual) Cozart. Hopefully, that will change.

Just look at the hitters and their baseball cards. The Reds should have very good power numbers offensively. But they don't have many high BA or high OBP hitters.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:48 PM
BP is due

WVRedsFan
04-12-2015, 02:49 PM
I expect Lorenzen and Iglesias to be AAA starters for much of this season. And join the Reds' rotation when ready.

If they get September call ups, then maybe they work in the pen. But basically, I think those two will be starters and should be part of the Opening Day 2016 rotation.

I do not think the Reds will move them back and forth from rotation to bullpen. Except for September when you just stick guys in the pen to get a taste of the big leagues.I'm a it confused why a talent like Cingrani is not in the rotation and Iglesias is. He needs to be in AAA

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:51 PM
Let's go bleach... clean the bases!

wheels
04-12-2015, 02:51 PM
Bruce has had the right approach today. You cannot go up there just hacking away.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 02:51 PM
I'm a it confused why a talent like Cingrani is not in the rotation and Iglesias is. He needs to be in AAA

Iglesias is just subbing for Homer Bailey. It's very temporary.

Cingrani was moved to the pen. Price spoke at length about the reasons, he thinks Cingrani will be healthier this way, etc.

RedsLvr
04-12-2015, 02:52 PM
Martinez is getting the outside corner called a strike all day whereas the exact same pitch has been a ball all day for Reds pitchers... Pretty disgusting.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:52 PM
This offense is sad.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 02:52 PM
The Boesch/Dominguez tandem is striking out frequently so far.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 02:52 PM
Has bleach ever not had an 0-2 count. Seems everytime.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:53 PM
Bleach is putrid

RedsfaninMT
04-12-2015, 02:53 PM
Martinez is getting the outside corner called a strike all day whereas the exact same pitch has been a ball all day for Reds pitchers... Pretty disgusting.

Exactly what I was thinking. That first pitch to Boesch was clearly a ball. It was a ball all day for Iglesias.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:53 PM
This is pretty much Reds baseball. Two runs on HRs, 8 Ks, nothing much in between. Hope to hang close until BIlly, Votto and Frazier hit again, maybe pull it out.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 02:53 PM
This offense is sad.
5th most runs scored out of 15 NL teams heading into today's games. :dunno:

757690
04-12-2015, 02:56 PM
The Boesch/Dominguez tandem is striking out frequently so far.

Filling the shoes of Bernidina and Soto perfectly :cool:

WVRedsFan
04-12-2015, 02:58 PM
5th most runs scored out of 15 NL teams heading into today's games. :dunno:On very few hits except HR's.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 02:59 PM
Picked the Wong pitch to swing at

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 02:59 PM
Nasty pitch there to get Wong.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 03:00 PM
1 run game...cmon boys. No runs here.

RedsfaninMT
04-12-2015, 03:00 PM
Picked the Wong pitch to swing at

Just glad he K'd rather than going wong ball

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 03:00 PM
On very few hits except HR's.
Right, but Mesoraco, BP, and Byrd aren't going to hit .100 all season.

Cozart might though.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 03:00 PM
Good gravy this ump is squeezing us..

Kc61
04-12-2015, 03:01 PM
On very few hits except HR's.

Tied in runs 5th-7th in NL. Tenth in OPS.

It's early.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 03:02 PM
The hell were the Angels smoking when they traded away Grichuk for a falling star like Freese?

RedsLvr
04-12-2015, 03:02 PM
On very few hits except HR's.


Would it make you more comfortable if those hard hit HRs were doubles? It's not like Frazier Hamilton and Votto are going to be hitting 40 HRs this year..

The Reds are not as home run centered as you all choose to believe..

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 03:03 PM
Walk him RIGHT NOW.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 03:03 PM
The hell were the Angels smoking when they traded away Grichuk for a falling star like Freese?

Angels have done a lot of questionable things.

Kc61
04-12-2015, 03:03 PM
Would it make you more comfortable if those hard hit HRs were doubles? It's not like Frazier Hamilton and Votto are going to be hitting 40 HRs this year..

The Reds are not as home run centered as you all choose to believe..

Who are the high BA, consistent OBP men on the club? Just interested.

I know Votto.

I think they are a home run centered team. Which can be effective, we'll see. But I think that's their game.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 03:04 PM
Does Thom love Carpenter or Molina more? I can't tell.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 03:06 PM
Battery Failure

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 03:07 PM
/exhale

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 03:07 PM
Gregg throwing up in the pen. I am throwing up in my living room.

HokieRed
04-12-2015, 03:09 PM
I'd like to see Cingrani reconsidered for the rotation at some point in the future but he has to get his pitch counts down.

BluegrassRedleg
04-12-2015, 03:09 PM
Gregg throwing up in the pen. I am throwing up in my living room.

Praying that was just in case Cingrani gave up 2 runs there and white flag was in order.

RedsLvr
04-12-2015, 03:09 PM
Who are the high BA, consistent OBP men on the club? Just interested.

I know Votto.

I think they are a home run centered team. Which can be effective, we'll see. But I think that's their game.

Don't need a bunch of high OBP guys to score runs. Having a bunch of high OBP guys will score you more of course, but I don't see the Reds leading the NL in HRs, and I still see them being a top offense.

faffy42
04-12-2015, 03:12 PM
let's go reds@@@@@!!!!!

faffy42
04-12-2015, 03:13 PM
Pena..awesome dude.
Worst slide of the season. Guaranteed.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 03:14 PM
Doesn't look like Pena is too injured, my fear was a separated shoulder.

RedsLvr
04-12-2015, 03:14 PM
Pena. I love you. Prayers YOURE not hurt badly

tomnuetten
04-12-2015, 03:14 PM
I like this guy, but hurting yourself sliding into 1B (!!!) is one of the dumbest things you could do

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 03:15 PM
Bunting ... NO!

757690
04-12-2015, 03:16 PM
Cingrani can't bunt. Ugh.

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 03:16 PM
Just give away an out. Nice job. Cardinals must have been applauding that the Reds tried to bunt with a pitcher there instead of using a pinch hitter. And I mean a pinch hitter to actually hit and keep the rally going.

The bunt -- what a rally killer. UGH.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 03:16 PM
That was positively awful.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 03:17 PM
That'll happen.

Crumbley
04-12-2015, 03:17 PM
Why

HokieRed
04-12-2015, 03:17 PM
Bad bad judgment by Price.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 03:18 PM
BALL

Chuckie
04-12-2015, 03:19 PM
By giving away an out, now the Cardinals can walk Votto or just pitch around him.

I hate bunting. Hate it. (And Price seems to love it. He'll never learn.)

Chip R
04-12-2015, 03:19 PM
It looked like Pena couldn't make up his mind whether to slide feet first or head first.

757690
04-12-2015, 03:19 PM
The hell were the Angels smoking when they traded away Grichuk for a falling star like Freese?

I thought the same thing when the trade was made, however...

Freese had a solid season as the Angel's 3B last year, and helped them to win their division. He's off to a hot start this season.

RedsManRick
04-12-2015, 03:19 PM
Reminder: Bunting is not and should never be treated like an automatic thing. The assumption that bunting attempts should be 100% successful (and the strategic advice announcers give as a result) drives me absolutely nuts

757690
04-12-2015, 03:20 PM
Bunting wasn't a bad call there. Blame the execution. That was just terrible.

11larkin11
04-12-2015, 03:21 PM
You let Mes hit (he has to come in anyway) and if he doesn't get the job done, Billy can bunt if that's what you really want.

TheBigLebowski
04-12-2015, 03:21 PM
Bunting wasn't a bad call there. Blame the execution. That was just terrible.

Bunting was a bad call.

Having acing rani perform the bunt was malpractice.

Ughhhhh. cingrani

Chip R
04-12-2015, 03:22 PM
I don't think I've seen a fan base so excited by a successful sacrifice bunt.

Tom Servo
04-12-2015, 03:23 PM
I thought the same thing when the trade was made, however...

Freese had a solid season as the Angel's 3B last year, and helped them to win their division. He's off to a hot start this season.
Eh, I followed the Angels pretty closely last year, Freese barely managed to finish above a .700 OPS with a hot September/October, when the pennant race was already just about decided. He contributed, but he was the weakest everyday player.

757690
04-12-2015, 03:23 PM
Manes is a huge GB pitcher. Not bunting there likely leads to a DP. Bunting with the pitcher's spot up there is defensible.

11larkin11
04-12-2015, 03:24 PM
Belisle alert!