Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao - Who wins?

[dougdirt]

Biggest fight in a long, long time in terms of boxing, at least since the 80's IMO. Even if both guys are past their prime, their still considered among the best two fighters in the world.

I'm going with Mayweather. He's too technical, too accurate and just flat out too good for Manny. Manny's got a chance, but I think Floyd will drop him in the latter half of the fight (not a KO, but he will hit the canvas) on a nice counter when Manny is coming in.

[westofyou]

I'm betting on Clubber Lang

[Rojo]

Edge to Mayweather, both two old for KO's.

[Boston Red]

The real winner is every casino in Las Vegas.

[dougdirt]

The real winner is every casino in Las Vegas.

The real winner is Mayweather, even if he loses. He's his own promoter. He's going to me $200M on this one fight. Imagine if there's a rematch coming.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don't understand why a scumbag like Mayweather is so celebrated in our society.

[dougdirt]

I don't understand why a scumbag like Mayweather is so celebrated in our society.

I'm curious as to where he's being celebrated at.

What I'm more curious about is how Manny Pacquiao gets such a free pass with his history (http://deadspin.com/dont-believe-the-hype-mayweather-pacquiao-is-not-good-1696609726).

It seems that everywhere I look, people are talking about Mayweather and his history with hitting women. Unless it's Stephen A. Smith. Everyone else though brings it up.

I haven't seen hardly anyone bring up any of the stuff Deadspin brought up about Manny. Don't get me wrong, I think what Floyd did is worse, but Manny has a long list of things going on that aren't good.

[Boston Red]

Personally, I don't care that much about the character of people I'm watching punch each other.

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm curious as to where he's being celebrated at.

What I'm more curious about is how Manny Pacquiao gets such a free pass with his history (http://deadspin.com/dont-believe-the-hype-mayweather-pacquiao-is-not-good-1696609726).

It seems that everywhere I look, people are talking about Mayweather and his history with hitting women. Unless it's Stephen A. Smith. Everyone else though brings it up.

I haven't seen hardly anyone bring up any of the stuff Deadspin brought up about Manny. Don't get me wrong, I think what Floyd did is worse, but Manny has a long list of things going on that aren't good.

Every time I turn espn on they are celebrating Mayweather.

[dougdirt]

Every time I turn espn on they are celebrating Mayweather.

Care to give an example, aside from Stephen A. Smith, on how they are celebrating him?

[Tom Servo]

Mayweather wins the fight, a few years earlier I might have picked Pacquiao.


I agree that for some reason Pacquiao gets a free pass from the media and the general public. He's not a very good guy at all.

[M2]

Mayweather's the worst great boxer ever, but I'm hard-pressed to think of another great welterweight who couldn't have beaten him if both of them were in their primes. He's done a brilliant job of picking past-their-prime guys and B+ talents. Five years ago, I think Pacquiao would have shredded Floyd's defense. Now Manny's lost a step and just enough hand speed that Floyd's going to be able to stonewall him. Mayweather will make it ugly and win rounds.

[dougdirt]

There was just a several minute piece on ESPN all about Mayweathers history with domestic violence. Not sure that's ESPN celebrating him.

[RedTeamGo!]

There was just a several minute piece on ESPN all about Mayweathers history with domestic violence. Not sure that's ESPN celebrating him.

I've seen multiple pieces where they are kissing his ass during interviews or stories about him.

Either way - I will not be supporting this guy.

[Chip R]

I think Jay Z is the real winner.

9038

[Stray]

Eh it was a typical Mayweather fight. Can't hit the guy. Pacquio is a great fighter and he couldn't put anything together. That's why Floyd is the best.

On a side note, I'm all for people constantly pointing out how bad of a dude Mayweather is, but man some people get a little weird with it. Saw Billy Hamilton just acknowledge Mayweather being a good fighter on Twitter and people somehow twisted that into Hamilton being cool with domestic abuse. Like you can never mention that Mayweather is an undefeated champ without being cool with domestic violence or whatever. Weird times.

Great fighter, bad dude.

And please no rematch.

[Ohayou]

Watching "Money" fight is about as exciting as watching silver tarnish. Can't blame Floyd, can't argue with his record. But it sure hasn't helped boxing.

[dougdirt]

Went almost exactly as expected. Floyd is too quick for anyone in the 147-154 weight class and he simply has too much defense. He's impossible to hit with two shots in a row and he's got a very good chin, so landing a one punch knockdown isn't going to happen (he's never technically been down, but Zab Judah should have been given a knock down on him when he stumbled back and his glove scraped the canvas).

I am surprised that Manny didn't come out in the 12th with more. He says he thought he won, but I have no clue how he could have been feeling that way.

148-81 in punches landed for Floyd. That Manny didn't outthrow him was the big surprise of the fight. He really didn't try to press the action. I thought this would be more Mayweather vs Maidana than your typical Mayweather fight.

Who's the final fight for Floyd? Who is left? Brook? Thurman? Bradley?

[RedlegJake]

I was more impressed with Vasily Lomacheko than Mayweather or Pacquiao. M-P had its entertaining moments but overall it was predictable. Like watching a HoF pitcher and HoF hitter, both 38, matching up in a WS game. The real star and excitement are elsewhere on the field but everyone's eyes are on the past glory matchup.

[Slyder]

Everyone on my news feed seem to walk away with the same opinion...

Pac came to fight, May ran a marathon.

Only way Pac was going to win in Vegas was knocking Mayweather out. I don't trust boxing enough for there to be a legit count ever.

So much miss with that fight they made (supposedly) 300 mil and that match should have made double that but because of Mayweather's demands it severely cut into what that match should and could have made.

[Crumbley]

Everyone on my news feed seem to walk away with the same opinion...

Pac came to fight, May ran a marathon.

Only way Pac was going to win in Vegas was knocking Mayweather out. I don't trust boxing enough for there to be a legit count ever.

So much miss with that fight they made (supposedly) 300 mil and that match should have made double that but because of Mayweather's demands it severely cut into what that match should and could have made.

http://i.imgur.com/pRgRsfq.jpg

[Slyder]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=368514430005306&set=p.368514430005306&type=1&theater


I didn't watch the fight nor do I care to, just my wall has been people complaining that the fight was boring and want their money back.

[M2]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=368514430005306&set=p.368514430005306&type=1&theater


I didn't watch the fight nor do I care to, just my wall has been people complaining that the fight was boring and want their money back.

Mayweather never has action fights. He is bad value for your entertainment dollar. That said, everything I've read about the fight is Mayweather controlled it. Pacquiao may have come to fight, but he didn't make it happen.

[dougdirt]

Everyone on my news feed seem to walk away with the same opinion...

Pac came to fight, May ran a marathon.

Only way Pac was going to win in Vegas was knocking Mayweather out. I don't trust boxing enough for there to be a legit count ever.

So much miss with that fight they made (supposedly) 300 mil and that match should have made double that but because of Mayweather's demands it severely cut into what that match should and could have made.

Mayweather "ran" is what people who don't watch boxing say. The sport is called boxing, not brawling. Non-boxing fans buy boxing because they want to see two guys stand there like rock-em-sock-em robots and just punch each other in the face repeatedly until someone goes down. That's not reality.

For those people that say Mayweather ran, I keep asking - how did the guy that ran land 83% MORE punches if he was running the entire time?

Mayweather landed significantly MORE punches. He landed MORE hard punches. He was hit significantly less often.

I get that people are mad that they didn't get the fight they wanted. But that's absolutely, 100% on them. This is what Mayweather does. He beats people, badly, by not getting hit, dodging shots, circling away from them, controlling the distance and being incredibly accurate with his shots that aren't thrown to knock you out, but to let you know he's there.

People bought the fight expecting an arena football game and got a soccer match. That's on them because no one who follows boxing expected a different result than what happened on Saturday night. It went exactly as just about every boxing expert said it would. Easy decision win for Mayweather because Pacquiao couldn't hit him (Not that anyone has ever really been able to hit him).

[westofyou]

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-the-sham-of-pacquiao-vs-mayweather/article_e40c4a21-81db-539e-ac87-f58aab857855.html



Pacquiao is aging and diminished; his punches don't have much kick. Mayweather has always been _ and still is _ a brilliant technician and defensive specialist. That's the style that's made him 48-0. But it's also a style that doesn't lead to thrilling action.

Most Mayweather fights are dull, dancing-the-night-away events.

Accordingly: Mayweather won a unanimous decision over Pacquiao on Saturday night in Las Vegas.

Predictable.

I would never criticize anyone for ordering the fight. That's a personal choice. Spend your money as you wish. And a Pay Per View even can be fun if it's the centerpiece of a social gathering. Some of my friends did that and enjoyed the evening if not the boxing.

But I have to say this ...

I'm astounded that so many fans were complaining about paying so much money for such a boring fight, with much of the wrath being directed at Mayweather.

Huh?

If you have followed Mayweather's career at all, then one thing should be obvious: this is how his fights go, this is what he does, this is why he's 48-0. Mayweather doesn't allow opponents to get close and land heavy punches. He moves, dances, deflects, counters or clinches when pressed in close quarters.

Why in the world would anyone expect anything different this time around?

[improbus]

I really enjoyed the fight. Way more than I thought I would. Watching the way Floyd would duck out of a Pacquiao flurry and still manage to hit him in the head on the way out was amazing. The sheer level of coordination, focus, and technical ability to do that was astounding.

I think Rocky has messed with people's minds. Those guys would have all been brain dead after a round or two in those movies and yet boxing newbies expect it to look like that.

[Slyder]

So apparently Floyd was fighting the one armed man Saturday... and people wonder why I'm so cynical when it comes to boxing's motives.

[dougdirt]

So apparently Floyd was fighting the one armed man Saturday... and people wonder why I'm so cynical when it comes to boxing's motives.

He may have injured it during the fight, but he was healthy enough to fight. Don't let this story be played up by Manny and his camp fool you into thinking he was fighting one handed. Manny always fights one handed because his right is terrible. It's always been terrible The only time he ever uses his right hand is after you are staggered by the left and about to go down.

[Javy Pornstache]

Late to this thread, but I thought Floyd winning by decision was the only reasonable way this fight could go, Pacquiao doesn't have quite the speed he did, say five years ago (you know, when this fight should have happened), and beyond that, the devastating KO to Marquez made him not do what he usually does in fights against since then. When I saw Pacquiao barely handle Joshua Clottey, who fights a similar style (though obviously not nearly as good) as Mayweather, that told me all I needed to know. Yeah, the shoulder angle is definitely something to try to bring the casual audience who considered the fight "boring" back in for a rematch, which I am sure will happen.

I think the best chance for Floyd to take a loss went out the window when Antonio Margarito decimated Miguel Cotto with plastered gloves many years back. Cotto gave Mayweather a hell of a fight when they did hook it up, and I mean Miguel wasn't even close to his peak by the time he did fight Floyd. Would've been as good to see as the FM-Pac fight would've been sometime during, say, the first Obama Administration.