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Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 04:34 PM
Cozart SS
Pena C
Votto 1B
Frazier 3B
Byrd LF
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Mesoraco DH
Hamilton CF

Cueto RHP

androosh
05-19-2015, 04:38 PM
I like the people in this lineup (when was the last time Price used the best possible lineup when Cueto pitched?), but I don't like the order of this lineup.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 04:48 PM
Can't really lose in this series - I'll be rooting Reds but hey, if the Royals win I won't be heartbroken either.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 05:04 PM
I like the people in this lineup (when was the last time Price used the best possible lineup when Cueto pitched?), but I don't like the order of this lineup.
Well don't leave us hanging

CySeymour
05-19-2015, 05:09 PM
I like the people in this lineup (when was the last time Price used the best possible lineup when Cueto pitched?), but I don't like the order of this lineup.

I think we could always quibble over the batting order. But the most important thing is to have the right people playing.

757690
05-19-2015, 05:10 PM
I hope Price continues to use Hamilton in the 9th spot after inter league play. Maddox's been using the pitcher batting 8th quite well so far this year, and I noticed the Mets used it in yesterday's game. Hamilton is perfect for the 9th spot.

villain612
05-19-2015, 05:13 PM
Cozart SS
Pena C
Votto 1B
Frazier 3B
Byrd LF
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Mesoraco DH
Hamilton CF

Cueto RHP

Man...we'd have a pretty good team if we had normal Jay and 2014 Rocco.

androosh
05-19-2015, 05:16 PM
I think we could always quibble over the batting order. But the most important thing is to have the right people playing.Agreed, that's why I didn't post what my preferred lineup was like I started to type out. It's definitely nice to see all the right folks batting and the right man pitching. Who knows, perhaps this batting order will finally spark a few runs for Cueto!

Kc61
05-19-2015, 05:21 PM
Not sure what's wrong with the batting order. Exactly as I'd do it.

RedTeamGo!
05-19-2015, 05:45 PM
I like Pena in the two hole ... and the fact I made that statement made me die a little bit inside.

Go Reds. I met a royals fan on a sales training trip recently....yaddi yaddi yada....I am now completey rooting against the royals this season.

JaxRed
05-19-2015, 06:02 PM
You Yaddi yaddi yadda'd the best part

klw
05-19-2015, 06:13 PM
small sample alert but ... Votto batting 2 vs 3 this year:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=vottojo01&year=2015&t=b


Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2nd 17 78 63 12 22 2 1 6 15 15 13 .349 .474 .698 1.172
3rd 19 81 73 6 18 3 0 1 6 8 18 .247 .321 .329 .650

Razor Shines
05-19-2015, 06:20 PM
You Yaddi yaddi yadda'd the best part

They stole some watches, got massages and facials and skipped out on the bill together.

Larry Schuler
05-19-2015, 06:44 PM
Man...we'd have a pretty good team if we had normal Jay and 2014 Rocco.

Current Cozart SS
Current Pena C
April Votto 1B
Current Frazier 3B
Current Byrd LF
Current Phillips 2B
2009-2013 Bruce RF
2014 Mesoraco DH
Hamilton CF

^ would be an amazing lineup. Too bad only 2-3 of the bunch can be healthy/productive at one point in time.

androosh
05-19-2015, 06:45 PM
I'd much prefer Votto in the two hole. I like Hamilton 9th, but I'd strongly prefer Votto over Peņa for #2.

androosh
05-19-2015, 06:46 PM
Current Cozart SS
Current Pena C
April Votto 1B
Current Frazier 3B
Current Byrd LF
Current Phillips 2B
2009-2013 Bruce RF
2014 Mesoraco DH
Hamilton CF

^ would be an amazing lineup. Too bad only 2-3 of the bunch can be healthy/productive at one point in time.Swap Votto and Peņa and I can get 100% behind that lineup!

GADawg
05-19-2015, 06:48 PM
Man...we'd have a pretty good team if we had normal Jay and 2014 Rocco.

I'm as big a Bruce basher as there is but he did manage a few hits the other night so my fingers are crossed that its the beginning of one of his 2 week hot spurts

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 07:08 PM
small sample alert but ... Votto batting 2 vs 3 this year:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=vottojo01&year=2015&t=b


Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2nd 17 78 63 12 22 2 1 6 15 15 13 .349 .474 .698 1.172
3rd 19 81 73 6 18 3 0 1 6 8 18 .247 .321 .329 .650

I know Price is trying a "get this guy going by hitting him 2nd in front of Votto" but it's time put Votto back.

villain612
05-19-2015, 07:13 PM
Current Cozart SS
Current Pena C
April Votto 1B
Current Frazier 3B
Current Byrd LF
Current Phillips 2B
2009-2013 Bruce RF
2014 Mesoraco DH
Hamilton CF

^ would be an amazing lineup. Too bad only 2-3 of the bunch can be healthy/productive at one point in time.

Get the back-to-back World Series champs shirt presses going.

Javy Pornstache
05-19-2015, 07:26 PM
You Yaddi yaddi yadda'd the best part

He mentioned the bisque

mbgrayson
05-19-2015, 07:36 PM
An interesting quirk: Johny Cueto and Billy Hamilton have exactly the same batting average right now, .214

Cueto is 3 for 14, Billy is 30 for 140.

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 07:40 PM
An interesting quirk: Johny Cueto and Billy Hamilton have exactly the same batting average right now, .214

Cueto is 3 for 14, Billy is 30 for 140.

Permanent DH please.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 07:56 PM
Permanent DH please.

Yeah, but then our pitchers are still batting for themselves.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 08:05 PM
Thom's pregame: "Johnny Cueto is good, and in interleague play, he's good."

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 08:07 PM
Thom's pregame: "Johnny Cueto is good, and in interleague play, he's good."

Consistency. Solid.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:10 PM
Thom's pregame: "Johnny Cueto is good, and in interleague play, he's good."

That's world class analysis right there is what that is

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:13 PM
That's world class analysis right there is what that isHall of Fame genes! :p

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:13 PM
damn you shift

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:14 PM
that late shift worked to perfection robbing Votto of clean single

ClarkyDayton
05-19-2015, 08:15 PM
If I see one more mlb player hit a worm burner into a ridiculous shift I am going to vomit. How can an mlb caliber player not hit any pitch the other way. Your not Ted Williams, Joey, hit it the other way!

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:16 PM
If I see one more mlb player hit a worm burner into a ridiculous shift I am going to vomit. How can an mlb caliber player not hit any pitch the other way. Your not Ted Williams, Joey, hit it the other way!
You should give them lessons on how to do it, Clarky, clearly they are far too stupid to figure it out!

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:18 PM
If I see one more mlb player hit a worm burner into a ridiculous shift I am going to vomit. How can an mlb caliber player not hit any pitch the other way. Your not Ted Williams, Joey, hit it the other way!I agree, baseball is easy. That's why I decided to forego my MLB career since it just wasn't challenging enough.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:20 PM
Johnny with a 1-2-3 inning but he had to use 4 more pitches than Ventura to make it happen. Color me a little bit worried.

kbrake
05-19-2015, 08:20 PM
If I see one more mlb player hit a worm burner into a ridiculous shift I am going to vomit. How can an mlb caliber player not hit any pitch the other way. Your not Ted Williams, Joey, hit it the other way!

Oh, awesome, just what RedsZone needed.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:21 PM
If I see one more RZ poster comment on how easy it is to hit any pitch (that one was inside) the other way I am going to vomit. Most ml caliber hitters will pop up or hit a dribbler on an inside fb trying to go the other way

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 08:21 PM
If I see one more mlb player hit a worm burner into a ridiculous shift I am going to vomit. How can an mlb caliber player not hit any pitch the other way. Your not Ted Williams, Joey, hit it the other way!

With a pitcher he's not seen much (or at all) I'm thinking he's just trying to see the ball and hit it hard.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:23 PM
Moustakis with a recoverable bobble there to get Frazier

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:26 PM
Looking like our best bet to win tonight is to rile Ventura up and get him ejected. :)

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:26 PM
Byrd is disgusted but Ventura has that effect on guys - nasty breaking stuff, if you can't hit a yakker or sinker forget facing Ventura. The hope for the Reds is that he is a bit of a headcase. He can be shaken up

Stray
05-19-2015, 08:28 PM
Just turned the game on. Has Ventura tried to fight or cuss out any of our guys yet?

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:29 PM
Nice video tribute to Bruce Chen on the Royals network - retiring after 22 years

ClarkyDayton
05-19-2015, 08:29 PM
Sorry for offending everyone on your forum With my comment on trying to hit through shifts.
I am not a baseball expert, I know no more than anyone else, just a lifelong baseball Reds fan looking to connect with fellow Redleg fans.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:30 PM
Late to the game thread tonight but I see we're getting some world class analysis from the newbie tonight.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:30 PM
I remember 2 things about Kendrys Morales:

1. He went by Kendry Morales for his first season or so before telling someone "That's actually not my name".

2. He suffered that devastating leg injury during a celebration of a walkoff Angels win.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:31 PM
Sorry for offending everyone on your forum With my comment on trying to hit through shifts.
I am not a baseball expert, I know no more than anyone else, just a lifelong baseball Reds fan looking to connect with fellow Redleg fans.

That's all right - relax ad enjoy yourself and don't worry - we get snapped at sometimes. You;re a Reds fan - that's all that counts! Welcome aboard. And I'm sorry for own snarky comment Clarky

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:32 PM
If I see one more mlb player hit a worm burner into a ridiculous shift I am going to vomit. How can an mlb caliber player not hit any pitch the other way. Your not Ted Williams, Joey, hit it the other way!

Now I hope you vomit

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:33 PM
Johnny with the K - 1 out!

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 08:33 PM
Sorry for offending everyone on your forum With my comment on trying to hit through shifts.
I am not a baseball expert, I know no more than anyone else, just a lifelong baseball Reds fan looking to connect with fellow Redleg fans.

No offense taken. All good.

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:34 PM
Cueto's pitches look really sharp tonight, but his location seems a little off. I hope he can lock down what's wrong quickly because it will be a great night for him if he can.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:34 PM
This could be 0-0 in the 7th or 8th and the pens come on. I hope not - the Royals pen vs the Reds pen. Not the greatest matchup

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:35 PM
If people aren't snarky at you, you aren't doing it right.

It's fine to have an unpopular opinion, just have thick skin

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:35 PM
K! 2 outs

1 more to go Johnny

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:37 PM
This could be 0-0 in the 7th or 8th and the pens come on. I hope not - the Royals pen vs the Reds pen. Not the greatest matchup

Makes you miss those Reds bullpen from just a couple years ago.

ukredleg
05-19-2015, 08:37 PM
Oooh pitch close to a Royals batter. Ventura to plunk a Red next inning

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 08:38 PM
Nice video tribute to Bruce Chen on the Royals network - retiring after 22 years

That's sort of amazing.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:38 PM
Omar freaking Infante.

1-0 Royals

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:39 PM
Reds are screwed.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:39 PM
barf....see it all the time from the Royals but I had hoped the RISP hitting would take a short vacation

- - - Updated - - -

Is Billy taping this?

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:39 PM
Hey, a team that knows how to bunt. Taking notes< Reds?

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:40 PM
Speaking of vomitting, Thom is talking about averages with RISP again.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 08:40 PM
Interleague play: when Reds bed linens need frequent changing.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:41 PM
Johnny escapes with only 1 run. Thom having a BA with RISP love fest over The Royals.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:41 PM
Cueto wants to stay a Red. Third straight game hurting his trade/contract value

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:41 PM
*obligatory I wish Hamilton could bunt like that comment*

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:41 PM
Speaking of vomitting, Thom is talking about averages with RISP again.

He might be Rain Man.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2015, 08:42 PM
Johnny escapes with only 1 run. Thom having a BA with RISP love fest over The Royals.

"350 with runners in scoring position"

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:43 PM
Cueto wants to stay a Red. Third straight game hurting his trade/contract valueIf he wants to give up 2 runs a game so we can re-sign him for a few years, that's something I'd be willing to accept this year....if our offense would at least help him out in 1/4 of those games...

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:43 PM
Hey, a team that knows how to bunt. Taking notes< Reds?

Take it a little further... A team that knows how to execute ;)

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:43 PM
Bruce gets a hit!

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:43 PM
Jay says "Eat shift and die."

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:43 PM
"350 with runners in scoring position"

You nailed the impression

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 08:43 PM
Speaking of vomitting, Thom.

Shut up! Just shut up! You had me at Thom. You had me..at Thom.

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:44 PM
Bruce gets a hit!My MLB.TV steam must really be lagging. I think you posted that a good 30 seconds before I saw the hit :/

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:44 PM
I will probably irritate some folks here being a Royals fan as well as a Reds fan (Reds do come first in my heart) but this is the kind of baseball this team has played all season. It's a joy to watch. Then I watch the Reds and some of the fundamentals lacking, good bunting, OBP, working pitchers, just kills me. You look at the talent player for player and the Royals aren't appreciably better on paper, except the bull pen. They are simply a much less one faceted offense.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:44 PM
Jay says "Eat shift and die."

This is a family board sawbones

The Operator
05-19-2015, 08:45 PM
Mes gets a hit!

2 on, 0 out. Let's rile this kid.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:45 PM
Rocco!

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:45 PM
I will probably irritate some folks here being a Royals fan as well as a Reds fan (Reds do come first in my heart) but this is the kind of baseball this team has played all season. It's a joy to watch. Then I watch the Reds and some of the fundamentals lacking, good bunting, OBP, working pitchers, just kills me. You look at the talent player for player and the Royals aren't appreciably better on paper, except the bull pen. They are simply a much less one faceted offense.


You had to expect this:

Permabanned from RaisorZone!!!!

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:46 PM
Wow. Great bunt by Billy.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 08:47 PM
Good. Gawd.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:47 PM
I will probably irritate some folks here being a Royals fan as well as a Reds fan (Reds do come first in my heart) but this is the kind of baseball this team has played all season. It's a joy to watch. Then I watch the Reds and some of the fundamentals lacking, good bunting, OBP, working pitchers, just kills me. You look at the talent player for player and the Royals aren't appreciably better on paper, except the bull pen. They are simply a much less one faceted offense.

As long as you're not a Cards fan. ;)

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 08:47 PM
I live on a Raisor's edge....

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:48 PM
I like Billy's speed in the 9 spot.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 08:48 PM
Wow. Great bunt by Billy.

How would you know? What do we have to compare it to?

(I'm killing it tonight folks)

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:49 PM
"Hey guys, let's talk about team batting average with RISP for the 12th time in 3 games" - Thom

NebraskaRed
05-19-2015, 08:49 PM
I wonder how the Reds are hitting with RISP

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 08:50 PM
Cozart has turned back into a pumpkin

kbrake
05-19-2015, 08:50 PM
I really hope we keep playing for 1 run early in games. Seems to be working so well.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:50 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/22846773/a-plea-to-stop-the-obsession-with-risp-batting-average

Thom clearly didn't read this article, directed towards him, 2 years ago.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 08:50 PM
Gawd. That was horrendous.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 08:51 PM
"Hey guys, let's talk about team batting average with RISP for the 12th time in 3 games" - Thom

Well in fairness, it is kind of important.

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 08:52 PM
Neat to have Pena up there.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 08:52 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/22846773/a-plea-to-stop-the-obsession-with-risp-batting-average

Thom clearly didn't read this article, directed towards him, 2 years ago.

.196 sucks

757690
05-19-2015, 08:52 PM
I don't like Hamilton bunting in that situation. He's too fast to double up, and even if he K's or pops up, first and second isn't that much worse than second and third. Letting him hit give you the chance that he doesn't make an out.

durl
05-19-2015, 08:54 PM
Normally, a pitcher can tense up with 2 on and no outs. But pitchers are able to relax in that situation against the Reds. Pitiful.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 08:54 PM
.196 sucks
Yeah, and so does hitting .240 as a team on the year. Become a better hitting team in general, and 'RISP' issues will get fixed too.

757690
05-19-2015, 08:55 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/22846773/a-plea-to-stop-the-obsession-with-risp-batting-average

Thom clearly didn't read this article, directed towards him, 2 years ago.

I don't think Thom mentions it to imply that the Reds players are mentally weak. He's just stating a fact that explains why the Reds aren't scoring runs. I think it's a very important team stat. It tells us a lot about what happened and why.

durl
05-19-2015, 08:56 PM
Yeah, and so does hitting .240 as a team on the year. Become a better hitting team in general, and 'RISP' issues will get fixed too.
You have a point. But I'd take hitting .240 with RISP. (And does it mean anything when my auto correct changes RISP to RIP?

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 08:56 PM
Yeah, and so does hitting .240 as a team on the year. Become a better hitting team in general, and 'RISP' issues will get fixed too.

Reds had a .400 OBP last inning. Didn't score.

Don't pretend that hitting with RISP doesn't matter. It does.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 08:56 PM
Moustakas is Hurdlesque in his gum chewing. Gross.

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:57 PM
Well in fairness, it is kind of important.It definitely does have some importance, but it's not the be-all and end-all of statistics, and continually hammering home how horrendous they are doesn't do anything but annoy the majority of your listeners (I'd be just as annoyed regardless of the topic if he brought it up as often as he does BA RISP).

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 08:57 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/22846773/a-plea-to-stop-the-obsession-with-risp-batting-average

Thom clearly didn't read this article, directed towards him, 2 years ago.

He's right about some things there, but focus and plate approach are not coincidental. I wouldn't single out Votto like Thom does (the basis for that article) but most of the other Reds do not have real solid approaches in those RISP situations. They've proven it repeatedly.

faffy42
05-19-2015, 08:58 PM
Grrrrrrrrr.....bunting with no outs, 2 on...I don't like it...at all.

kbrake
05-19-2015, 08:58 PM
Normally, a pitcher can tense up with 2 on and no outs. But pitchers are able to relax in that situation against the Reds. Pitiful.

Yeah because the second the Reds get something going against a pitcher they immediately give them an out as quick as possible. They love to kill their own momentum. The new age new thinking manager is getting old really quick.

BCubb2003
05-19-2015, 08:59 PM
What's their OBP with RISP?

androosh
05-19-2015, 08:59 PM
Double play!

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 08:59 PM
It definitely does have some importance, but it's not the be-all and end-all of statistics, and continually hammering home how horrendous they are doesn't do anything but annoy the majority of your listeners (I'd be just as annoyed regardless of the topic if he brought it up as often as he does BA RISP).

If you're good in that stat, chances are you're going to be a good offensive team.

I do agree that T-Hom over does it (and just about everything else) but it is a HUGE reason why this team doesn't score runs with any consistency.

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:01 PM
If you're good in that stat, chances are you're going to be a good offensive team.

I do agree that T-Hom over does it (and just about everything else) but it is a HUGE reason why this team doesn't score runs with any consistency.I can agree with that. I just wish he'd stop mentioning it every single time they make an out with a runner at second or third.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 09:02 PM
KC broadcast is welcome to continue interviewing Sydney Leroux during all pf KC's at bats....please.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:03 PM
Frazier gets a hit then Byrd is out on a diving catch.

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:04 PM
"I can't believe how horrible Votto is batting with nobody on and 0 outs in the fourth inning. Well below the league average." - Thom, probably ;)

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:04 PM
Oh for the love of god. Frazier picked off.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:04 PM
Frazier TOOTBLAN.

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:06 PM
Well that was unfortunate and uncalled for.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:06 PM
Never ceases to amaze me how often the Reds create on the basepaths.

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 09:06 PM
What was the plan there?

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:07 PM
What was the plan there?Pickpocket second base?

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:09 PM
What was the plan there?

Men plan, God laughs.

durl
05-19-2015, 09:09 PM
Is the owner trying to get the team to play horrible, lowering attendance to where the league will let them move to Miami?

Rantly
05-19-2015, 09:10 PM
Speaking of vomitting, Thom is talking about averages with RISP again.

At the risk of getting lit up on this board like I have before, and Tom, I think you are one of the smartest baseball guys on this board (other than Doug of course), why is gettin hits with RISB such a bad thing? And by the way I'm not sticking up for Thom, I hate his analysis as much as the next guy.

Red Raindog
05-19-2015, 09:11 PM
I like Pena in the two hole ... and the fact I made that statement made me die a little bit inside.

Go Reds. I met a royals fan on a sales training trip recently....yaddi yaddi yada....I am now completey rooting against the royals this season.

yup -- too close to St. Louis for me ---

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:11 PM
Good guy Thom reminding us how the Royals' season went last year, unintentionally giving us hope that it could happen for the Reds.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:13 PM
Wow T-Hom is right about the 38 doubles. By far the lowest in the league.

Next worst is Boston with 44. That may even be worse than the Reds' 38, considering the Red Sox play their home games in a handball court.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:14 PM
At the risk of getting lit up on this board like I have before, and Tom, I think you are one of the smartest baseball guys on this board (other than Doug of course), why is gettin hits with RISB such a bad thing? And by the way I'm not sticking up for Thom, I hate his analysis as much as the next guy.

It is not a bad stat - it is based on a much smaller sample than regular ABs but the biggest problem is just Thom beating it over and over and over. As a stat it is unrepeatable - you'll see a team have a .300+ BA with RISP one year and with same players only hit .240 with RISP the next, with everyone being within personal norms both years.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2015, 09:14 PM
You Yaddi yaddi yadda'd the best part

He mentioned the Royals...

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:15 PM
At the risk of getting lit up on this board like I have before, and Tom, I think you are one of the smartest baseball guys on this board (other than Doug of course), why is gettin hits with RISB such a bad thing? And by the way I'm not sticking up for Thom, I hate his analysis as much as the next guy.
It's not that it's a bad thing, but it's just such a false point to harp on. Putting aside the larger issues of small sample sizes, the Reds are a below average hitting team, that's their problem. It's not that they are weak-willed choke artists who suddenly freeze up and panic with a runner on 2nd or 3rd, which seems to be what Thom thinks.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:15 PM
Mez squats!!!

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:15 PM
Devin hasn't even been allowed to squat for a month. And they've refused to DL him.


What in the freaking world.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:16 PM
Wow T-Hom is right about the 38 doubles. By far the lowest in the league.

A much more legitimate issue than RISP stats.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 09:16 PM
Devin hasn't even been allowed to squat for a month.

Makes for awkward trips to the bathroom.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:17 PM
It's not that it's a bad thing, but it's just such a false point to harp on. Putting aside the larger issues of small sample sizes, the Reds are a below average hitting team, that's their problem. It's not that they are weak-willed choke artists who suddenly freeze up and panic with a runner on 2nd or 3rd, which seems to be what Thom thinks.

Reds are a middle of the pack offense as far as OBP. They'd be scoring far more runs if they were just a decent RISP hitting team.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:17 PM
It's painful watching Bruce anymore

malcontent
05-19-2015, 09:18 PM
The new age new thinking manager is getting old really quick.
That's why I wanted this guy gone last year. We were sold a bill of goods.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 09:20 PM
A much more legitimate issue than RISP stats.

They're just not a good hitting team. Period. In any situations. That's the part Thom fails to grasp.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2015, 09:22 PM
That's why I wanted this guy gone last year. We were sold a bill of goods.

Believe it or not, there are more people around here who want to keep him than fire him, according to that poll.

Granted, he's hardly ruling with a mandate, but I had no idea it would even be close - much less a small majority in favor of keeping him.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:22 PM
Billy is swinging this year like Cozart did last year.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:22 PM
They're just not a good hitting team. Period. In any situations. That's the part Thom fails to grasp.

That's not true. They're a middle of the league OBP team that hits a lot of HR's.

If they were just hitting .250 with RISP, they'd score a lot more runs and likely have a lot more wins.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:26 PM
2-0 Royals

Ugh

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 09:26 PM
Thom, Pensacola to Orlando is not a quick drive.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:26 PM
Royals bunt a guy over, and it works. They score.

Explain....

kbrake
05-19-2015, 09:26 PM
That's not true. They're a middle of the league OBP team that hits a lot of HR's.

If they were just hitting .250 with RISP, they'd score a lot more runs and likely have a lot more wins.

So do you think it is a mental thing?

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:26 PM
Royals bunt a guy over, and it works. They score.

Explain....Magic.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:27 PM
Royals bunt a guy over, and it works. They score.

Explain....
They lead the AL in base hits.

kbrake
05-19-2015, 09:27 PM
Royals bunt a guy over, and it works. They score.

Explain....

Cueto threw a flat breaking ball over the heart of the plate.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:27 PM
Royals bunt a guy over, and it works. They score.

Explain....Better players generally net you better results.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:28 PM
So do you think it is a mental thing?

I have no idea what it is, but it's clearly holding this team back.

KronoRed
05-19-2015, 09:28 PM
Royals bunt a guy over, and it works. They score.

Explain....

That guy scores even without he bunt, it was the double.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:28 PM
Tracy is right. 5 guys with .346 or better OBP in the lineup, lots of homeruns, ranked 9th in OBP in NL, 6th in Slg, 11th in BA. Middle of the road. Horrible BA/RISP is killing them.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:29 PM
They lead the AL in base hits.

Reds didn't even need a base hit to score when they bunted a runner over.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 09:29 PM
It's not that it's a bad thing, but it's just such a false point to harp on. Putting aside the larger issues of small sample sizes, the Reds are a below average hitting team, that's their problem. It's not that they are weak-willed choke artists who suddenly freeze up and panic with a runner on 2nd or 3rd, which seems to be what Thom thinks.

Plus it's batting average.

I dislike it very much.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:29 PM
They lead the AL in base hits.
It's almost like getting a lot of hits in general translates into getting hits with RISP.

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:29 PM
I feel so bad for Cueto. He's given up two runs and is most likely going to get hung for a loss yet again. Definitely not his best night, but that has to get real old real fast for him.

malcontent
05-19-2015, 09:30 PM
Believe it or not, there are more people around here who want to keep him than fire him, according to that poll.

Granted, he's hardly ruling with a mandate, but I had no idea it would even be close - much less a small majority in favor of keeping him.
Yeah, I know. All I can think is that years of watching this team has softened the forum up.

;)

Raisor
05-19-2015, 09:31 PM
It's painful watching Bruce anymore

It's been 30 minutes since his last hit.

Tough crowd.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:31 PM
Marquis goes tomorrow, doesn't he? That is going to be extremely ugly.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:32 PM
Local TV ads can be quite the hoot sometimes. I think the Logan AC lady is going to pee her pants.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:34 PM
Back to the bottom of the order Zack

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
I think that ball went through Cozart. No idea how it missed him.

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
Just got home. What'd I miss?

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
That's not true. They're a middle of the league OBP team that hits a lot of HR's.

If they were just hitting .250 with RISP, they'd score a lot more runs and likely have a lot more wins.

By EVERY measure, these splits suck:

.240 .315 .399

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
it's almost like getting a lot of hits in general translates into getting hits with risp.

ding ding ding!

Raisor
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
The Reds are 8th in the NL in runs scored while being 8th in the NL in OPS.

Crazy how that works.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:35 PM
Just got home. What'd I miss?

Reds are losing. Price's fault.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:36 PM
Just got home. What'd I miss?

Nothing.

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:36 PM
Just got home. What'd I miss? Nothing really worth mentioning :/

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:36 PM
This guy is gonna hit the mascot.

Only The Reds could have 0 walks against him.

Banshee
05-19-2015, 09:37 PM
4 singles by the juggernaut offense that is the Reds. And about 20 weak ground outs.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:37 PM
The Reds are 8th in the NL in runs scored while being 8th in the NL in OPS.

Crazy how that works.

6 teams in MLB have scored more runs with an equal or lower OPS.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:37 PM
Ventura is effectively wild.

757690
05-19-2015, 09:38 PM
It's not that it's a bad thing, but it's just such a false point to harp on. Putting aside the larger issues of small sample sizes, the Reds are a below average hitting team, that's their problem. It's not that they are weak-willed choke artists who suddenly freeze up and panic with a runner on 2nd or 3rd, which seems to be what Thom thinks.

Regardless of why Thom is telling the stat (and none of us can read his mind to know for sure) it's a good stat for a broadcaster to talk about. It accurately explains why an offense isn't scoring runs when BARISP is low. I get the hatred of Thim for other stupid things he talks about, but this isn't one of them, imo.

malcontent
05-19-2015, 09:38 PM
Votto on the fast track to an 0.850 OPS.

Perhaps he should desist in biting umpires on the neck.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 09:38 PM
KC broadcast eluding to the fact that Ventura is being coached to "not take comeback hits personally." If he takes them personally, he's an idiot.

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:39 PM
Nothing.


Glad I brought booze home then.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:40 PM
By EVERY measure, these splits suck:

.240 .315 .399

In today's offensive environment those splits put the Reds almost exactly in the center of the pack - flat out average

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:40 PM
By EVERY measure, these splits suck:

.240 .315 .399

It's middle of the pack. 15th in OBP. 16th in SLG (but 3rd in HR's) 19th in runs scored.

They'd be a far more consistent offense with the numbers as they are if they hit with RISP. There's no getting around it.

androosh
05-19-2015, 09:40 PM
Regardless of why Thom is telling the stat (and none of us can read his mind to know for sure) it's a good stat for a broadcaster to talk about. It accurately explains why an offense isn't scoring runs when BARISP is low. I get the hatred of Thim for other stupid things he talks about, but this isn't one of them, imo.Mine is a general disdain for beating a dead horse regardless of the topic. Yes, it is worth mentioning, but multiple times seemingly every game? That's my problem with it.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:41 PM
Cueto's body language doesn't look too great since the broken bat where he fell. Hope it's nothing.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:41 PM
A hot potato to Votto.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 09:41 PM
In today's offensive environment those splits put the Reds almost exactly in the center of the pack - flat out average

... with a bunch of other bad teams who have no chance to contend.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:42 PM
Glad I brought booze home then.

Pass it around. We could all use a snort.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:43 PM
At least we are all in agreement that the Reds suck :)

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:43 PM
I'm going to Tweet all The Reds players I follow tonight with this message:

"It's simple - gets hits with runners in scoring position. Just turn that switch on! I know you've been going up so far with the approach of making outs on purpose but let's try some hits!"

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:44 PM
Pass it around. We could all use a snort.

I'm glad my alcoholism could pay off at least a little.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:45 PM
Glad I brought booze home then.

Hope you brought enough for everyone.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:45 PM
I'm going to Tweet all The Reds players I follow tonight with this message:

"It's simple - gets hits with runners in scoring position. Just turn that switch on! I know you've been going up so far with the approach of making outs on purpose but let's try some hits!"

Good one?

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 09:45 PM
It's middle of the pack. 15th in OBP. 16th in SLG (but 3rd in HR's) 19th in runs scored.

They'd be a far more consistent offense with the numbers as they are if they hit with RISP. There's no getting around it.

I don't completley disagree with you on that. It's common sense to me. But the "middle of the pack" stuff is not saying much when the pack is pretty dismal.

Here's the Reds-down in NL OPS:

8 Cincinnati 38 1271 153 305 38 10 48 507 145 .240 .315 .399 .714
9 Atlanta 37 1230 159 320 66 6 26 476 150 .260 .322 .387 .709
10 San Diego 39 1354 175 340 68 10 36 536 170 .251 .308 .396 .704
11 Miami 39 1322 153 345 56 8 25 492 140 .261 .316 .372 .688
12 Pittsburgh 38 1293 146 311 70 1 30 473 141 .241 .300 .366 .666
13 NY Mets 39 1284 151 306 59 4 30 463 145 .238 .302 .361 .663
14 Milwaukee 39 1283 145 291 65 8 38 486 138 .227 .281 .379 .660
15 Philadelphia 40 1323 124 317 57 11 22 462 119 .240 .295 .349 .644

Nobody you see here has a chance in hell at doing anything this season. They are not the measuring stick.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:47 PM
I don't completley disagree with you on that. It's common sense to me. But the "middle of the pack" stuff is not saying much when the pack is pretty dismal.

Here's the Reds-down in NL OPS:

8 Cincinnati 38 1271 153 305 38 10 48 507 145 .240 .315 .399 .714
9 Atlanta 37 1230 159 320 66 6 26 476 150 .260 .322 .387 .709
10 San Diego 39 1354 175 340 68 10 36 536 170 .251 .308 .396 .704
11 Miami 39 1322 153 345 56 8 25 492 140 .261 .316 .372 .688
12 Pittsburgh 38 1293 146 311 70 1 30 473 141 .241 .300 .366 .666
13 NY Mets 39 1284 151 306 59 4 30 463 145 .238 .302 .361 .663
14 Milwaukee 39 1283 145 291 65 8 38 486 138 .227 .281 .379 .660
15 Philadelphia 40 1323 124 317 57 11 22 462 119 .240 .295 .349 .644

Nobody you see here has a chance in hell at doing anything this season. They are not the measuring stick.

Maybe, but let's say the Reds were just hitting .240 with RISP instead of .196 (worst in baseball) Don't you think they'd have a much better record at this point?

I do.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:48 PM
... with a bunch of other bad teams who have no chance to contend.

Only LA, Washington(.745), SF(.730) and StL(.731) are appreciably better in OPS. Only LA is immensely better (.819) 5 teams are appreciably worse Miami, Milwaukee, NY, Philly & Pittsburgh. The Reds are right in the middle of the center pack of 6 teams between .704 and .725. It is those 6 teams the Reds are competing with for a WC spot

It's hard to get used to but offense sucks everywhere except for a couple of teams

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 09:49 PM
Maybe, but let's say the Reds were just hitting .240 with RISP instead of .196 (worst in baseball) Don't you think they'd have a much better record at this point?

I do.

Yeah. I just don't think that's something you *control* per se. You can either hit or you can't. Whether a guy is on base or not doesn't really affect it, IMO. The Reds have poor approach in general, which is sometimes magnified when they get scoring opportunities. I think they tend to press because they know they struggle to score consistently.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:50 PM
More interesting than Manny Parra in AAA tonight is Eugenio Suarez mashing a double and a triple and generally being an offensive force. If I were the Reds I'd see if anybody around the league is buying Cozart's hot start.

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:50 PM
Has the whole game been like this?

Because this sucks.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:51 PM
Has the whole game been like this?

Because this sucks.
Pretty much, yeah.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 09:51 PM
Only LA, Washington(.745), SF(.730) and StL(.731) are appreciably better in OPS. Only LA is immensely better (.819) 5 teams are appreciably worse Miami, Milwaukee, NY, Philly & Pittsburgh. The Reds are right in the middle of the center pack of 6 teams between .704 and .725. It is those 6 teams the Reds are competing with for a WC spot

It's hard to get used to but offense sucks everywhere except for a couple of teams

I'm not debating that with you. I'm just saying "league average" or "middle of the pack" gets you nothing. It's largely irrelevant if the pack stinks. Those first 3 or 4 teams you mentioned are your measuring stick. If you're not close to those, you're playing for kicks and giggles.

757690
05-19-2015, 09:51 PM
I don't completley disagree with you on that. It's common sense to me. But the "middle of the pack" stuff is not saying much when the pack is pretty dismal.

Here's the Reds-down in NL OPS:

8 Cincinnati 38 1271 153 305 38 10 48 507 145 .240 .315 .399 .714
9 Atlanta 37 1230 159 320 66 6 26 476 150 .260 .322 .387 .709
10 San Diego 39 1354 175 340 68 10 36 536 170 .251 .308 .396 .704
11 Miami 39 1322 153 345 56 8 25 492 140 .261 .316 .372 .688
12 Pittsburgh 38 1293 146 311 70 1 30 473 141 .241 .300 .366 .666
13 NY Mets 39 1284 151 306 59 4 30 463 145 .238 .302 .361 .663
14 Milwaukee 39 1283 145 291 65 8 38 486 138 .227 .281 .379 .660
15 Philadelphia 40 1323 124 317 57 11 22 462 119 .240 .295 .349 .644

Nobody you see here has a chance in hell at doing anything this season. They are not the measuring stick.

You left out that the Cubs are right there, at .718. And it's false their none do those teams are clearly out it. The Braves, Pirates, Mets and Padres are very much in contention.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:52 PM
damn double post

BCubb2003
05-19-2015, 09:52 PM
Maybe this has been answered, but what's the Reds' OPS with RISP compared with their OPS in general?

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:53 PM
I'm not debating that with you. I'm just saying "league average" or "middle of the pack" gets you nothing. It's largely irrelevant if the pack stinks. Those first 3 or 4 teams you mentioned are your measuring stick. If you're not close to those, you're playing for kicks and giggles.

We agree then. And the Reds pitching and defense is nowhere near strong enough this year to overcome the gap

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:53 PM
More interesting than Manny Parra in AAA tonight is Eugenio Suarez mashing a double and a triple and generally being an offensive force. If I were the Reds I'd see if anybody around the league is buying Cozart's hot start.

What are the odds that Suarez gets a late season call up? Maybe get some playing time on BP and Cozart off days?

Or too early to start the service time?

Cedric
05-19-2015, 09:53 PM
No bats at any level and a GM that hasn't shown he can find any. Maybe Walt can hope for a steroid era revival to save his career.

I don't want this guy anywhere near a retool.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:53 PM
damn double post

You're being repetitive. Much like the Reds hitters.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:55 PM
What are the odds that Suarez gets a late season call up? Maybe get some playing time on BP and Cozart off days?

Or too early to start the service time?
Suarez played about half the year with Detroit last year, service time isn't an issue. I'd say the odds of him playing in Cincy this year at some point are very high.

ProducerCoop
05-19-2015, 09:55 PM
I'm going to Tweet all The Reds players I follow tonight with this message:

"It's simple - gets hits with runners in scoring position. Just turn that switch on! I know you've been going up so far with the approach of making outs on purpose but let's try some hits!"
187 characters. [emoji20]



[emoji1]

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:55 PM
I like the Royals' uniforms. A clean look.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 09:56 PM
Yeah. I just don't think that's something you *control* per se. You can either hit or you can't. Whether a guy is on base or not doesn't really affect it, IMO. The Reds have poor approach in general, which is sometimes magnified when they get scoring opportunities. I think they tend to press because they know they struggle to score consistently.

Yeah you might be right about all of the above. But you could also look at the team they're playing tonight, and what a woeful offensive team they were not too long ago and ask why they've been able to turn things around and why the Reds haven't?

Raisor
05-19-2015, 09:56 PM
No bats at any level and a GM that hasn't shown he can find any. Maybe Walt can hope for a steroid era revival to save his career.

I don't want this guy anywhere near a retool.

You have this post saved as a word document and just cut and paste it at 945 every night, don't you? ;)

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:56 PM
We agree then. And the Reds pitching and defense is nowhere near strong enough this year to overcome the gap

I supported the trade at the time and I still think it was probably the best move for the long term, but for 2015 purposes, not having Simon in the rotation hurts.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 09:57 PM
Maybe this has been answered, but what's the Reds' OPS with RISP compared with their OPS in general?
.714 in general, .633 with RISP.

- - - Updated - - -


I like the Royals' uniforms. A clean look.
Winning always helps make uniforms look better.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:57 PM
I like the Royals' uniforms. A clean look.

I hate the blue though. Too Dodgery for me - even though I'm a fan it bugs me rooting for a team in blue

757690
05-19-2015, 09:57 PM
One reason why I like hearing about the Reds .194 BARISP, is that it tells me that the Reds are likely to improve that going forward, and the Reds are likely to score more runs eventually.

BCubb2003
05-19-2015, 09:58 PM
.714 in general, .633 with RISP.

Thanks. It seems significant, even though I know all about randomness. Does anyone else have that much of a dropoff?

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 09:58 PM
You have this post saved as a word document and just cut and paste it at 945 every night, don't you? ;)

He was late tonight. It was posted at 9:53.

villain612
05-19-2015, 09:59 PM
Suarez played about half the year with Detroit last year, service time isn't an issue. I'd say the odds of him playing in Cincy this year at some point are very high.

Totally forgot that he got time in Detroit.

Yeah, in that case, I'd definitely bring him up at some point.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 09:59 PM
Oh boy. Thom is back on it again.

RedlegJake
05-19-2015, 09:59 PM
Moustakis looks like a totally different player from a year ago this time

The Operator
05-19-2015, 09:59 PM
THREE OH FOUR WITH RISP AND 2 OUTS!!

-Thom

Raisor
05-19-2015, 10:00 PM
Thanks. It seems significant, even though I know all about randomness. Does anyone else have that much of a dropoff?

Cubs are at 718/661

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 10:00 PM
How many time scan he say RISP in 30 seconds?

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 10:00 PM
He was on first, he wasn't "in scoring position". Shut the hell up.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 10:00 PM
He was late tonight. It was posted at 9:53.

Might need to wind his apple watch

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 10:00 PM
One reason why I like hearing about the Reds .194 BARISP, is that it tells me that the Reds are likely to improve that going forward, and the Reds are likely to score more runs eventually.

If they can keep getting guys on base at the same rate, yes.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 10:00 PM
Thom reminds me a lot of my high school baseball coaches.

I was a pitcher, threw pretty hard but had control problem on a regular basis. Their dynamite advice was always to yell tot he mound "Throw strikes! Let's go!"

As if it's some sort of switch you can flip.

androosh
05-19-2015, 10:01 PM
THREE OH FOUR WITH RISP AND 2 OUTS!!

-Thom174 ABs with RISP and 2 outs at this point in the year is pretty impressive.

757690
05-19-2015, 10:01 PM
I hate the blue though. Too Dodgery for me - even though I'm a fan it bugs me rooting for a team in blue

Meaningless fact of the day.

The Royals used to wear "Royal Blue" and the Dodgers "Dodger Blue." Two different color blues.

Selig got every team to start using the same color, for marketing reasons, so the Dodgers and Royals now wear the same color blue. Remember when the Reds change their color red a few years ago? That was for the same reason. Selig wanted uniformity.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 10:01 PM
Oh boy. Thom is back on it again.

Uses his NFL voice.

Raisor
05-19-2015, 10:01 PM
He was on first, he wasn't "in scoring position". Shut the hell up.

I think Thom would make an outstanding insurance agent.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 10:02 PM
174 ABs with RISP and 2 outs at this point in the year is pretty impressive.They're a good hitting team period.

Thom is just using that to beat his drum like a baseball announcing version of John Bonham.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 10:02 PM
I like the "go to the minors and figure out how to hit" Moustakas a lot better than this one.

BluegrassRedleg
05-19-2015, 10:03 PM
You left out that the Cubs are right there, at .718. And it's false their none do those teams are clearly out it. The Braves, Pirates, Mets and Padres are very much in contention.

Our definitions may be different for "contention." Mine is winning a NLDS/NLCS. None of those teams will come close, barring major moves.

Tom Servo
05-19-2015, 10:03 PM
The Reds hit .283/.359/.425 with a runner on 1st, which apparently now counts as RISP to Thom.

BCubb2003
05-19-2015, 10:03 PM
Apparently the best strategy is to avoid getting runners in scoring position. They should try that.

Slippin'Jimmy
05-19-2015, 10:03 PM
Sheew. We're finally to the KC bullpen. Hits coming now for sure.

WVRedsFan
05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
I think Thom would make an outstanding insurance agent.Bite your tongue. We want none of him.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
There's only 30 teams in MLB T-Hom

The Operator
05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
Thom is drunk on The Royals BA RISP.

He also just said The Reds were 30th out of 32 teams. He apparently thinks The Reds are in the NFL where there actually ARE 32 teams.

Larkin Fan
05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
Reds are 30th out of 32 teams, huh? When did MLB expand again?

androosh
05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
They're a good hitting team period.

Thom is just using that to beat his drum like a baseball announcing version of John Bonham.Oh definitely. If they weren't a good hitting team all around they wouldn't have had that many opportunities with RISP and 2 outs. I'm just impressed they've had that many at bats with runners on and 2 outs when we're only a fifth or sixth of the way through the year.

Cedric
05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
You have this post saved as a word document and just cut and paste it at 945 every night, don't you? ;)

I haven't posted on Redszone in a bit. I'm a front runner fan :)

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 10:05 PM
Our definitions may be different for "contention." Mine is winning a NLDS/NLCS. None of those teams will come close, barring major moves.

I wouldn't say that. Once you get in, it's a crapshoot.

The Operator
05-19-2015, 10:05 PM
The Reds hit .283/.359/.425 with a runner on 1st, which apparently now counts as RISP to Thom.Two - EIGHTY - THREE!!

Brother, that's impressive! Let me tell ya...

villain612
05-19-2015, 10:05 PM
Moustakis looks like a totally different player from a year ago this time

He definitely is. Best OPS of his career.

He has a career 16.1% K rate. This year it's only 9.5%.

Roy Tucker
05-19-2015, 10:05 PM
Meaningless fact of the day.

The Royals used to wear "Royal Blue" and the Dodgers "Dodger Blue." Two different color blues.

Selig got every team to start using the same color, for marketing reasons, so the Dodgers and Royals now wear the same color blue. Remember when the Reds change their color red a few years ago? That was for the same reason. Selig wanted uniformity.

http://teamcolorcodes.com/cincinnati-reds-color-codes/

Rantly
05-19-2015, 10:06 PM
I'm going to Tweet all The Reds players I follow tonight with this message:

"It's simple - gets hits with runners in scoring position. Just turn that switch on! I know you've been going up so far with the approach of making outs on purpose but let's try some hits!"

Its frustrating. But tonite happens to be a great game for your argument since we are not getting any hits at all...but there are a lot of games where we have 8-10 hits and score 2 runs

westofyou
05-19-2015, 10:06 PM
Thom Brennamen is as interesting as Parade Magazine

Raisor
05-19-2015, 10:07 PM
Thom Brennamen is as interesting as Parade Magazine

I like parade magazine.
I read it right before my Sunday sudoku

Cedric
05-19-2015, 10:08 PM
Thom Brennamen is as interesting as Parade Magazine

Dylan had a similiar quote about TIME magazine.

androosh
05-19-2015, 10:08 PM
If we can not get shut out, I will consider tonight a win.

villain612
05-19-2015, 10:08 PM
Thom sounds extra bad tonight according to you all.

I dunno. I have the basic mlb.tv streaming so I automatically get the home team's broadcast.

I like road games.

durl
05-19-2015, 10:08 PM
Looked lower than it was.

Tracy Jones
05-19-2015, 10:09 PM
Welcome back Zack Zack the out making maniac

WVRedsFan
05-19-2015, 10:09 PM
http://teamcolorcodes.com/cincinnati-reds-color-codes/The Dodgers and the Royals seem to have different blue color codes...