5/25/15 Rockies @ Reds

[JoshBresser]

1. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF
5. Brayan Pena (S) C
6. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
7. Zack Cozart (R) SS
8. Jason Marquis (L) P
9. Billy Hamilton (S) CF

Thoughts?

Personally, I think it's the best lineup of the season.

[757690]

Hamilton is the perfect 9th place hitter, with the pitcher batting 8th.

In all fairness, Price's lineups have been his strong suit. It's a shame they don't matter all that much.

[Tom Servo]

Jamie Ramsey ‏@Jamieblog 1m1 minute ago
According to Elias, the last time a #Reds pitcher didn't bat 9th in the starting lineup, came on 9/7/33 vs Brooklyn. (Red Lucas batted 7th)

[Chuckie]

This is what was missing all along! The stupid Tony LaRussa brainchild of batting the pitcher 8th. I know the offense has been substandard; I realize the Reds are ravaged by injuries again; I understand we have the worst bullpen in MLB. But the real missing piece of the puzzle was batting the pitcher 8th.

Hallelujah! Bryan Price has cracked the code.

[Stray]

Getting out of this losing streak is going to be more about the players than anything Price can do, but I do love this lineup. Feels like Price is trying something new every day.

[Raisor]

This is what was missing all along! The stupid Tony LaRussa brainchild of batting the pitcher 8th. I know the offense has been substandard; I realize the Reds are ravaged by injuries again; I understand we have the worst bullpen in MLB. But the real missing piece of the puzzle was batting the pitcher 8th.

Hallelujah! Bryan Price has cracked the code.


It's a good lineup.

But sure.

[terminator]

Personally, I think it's the best lineup of the season.

Biggest problem with that lineup is that Marquis is pitching. Otherwise, sure why not, what's the worst that can happen, nine straight losses?

[cincrazy]

Arrange it any way you want, it's still full of bad hitters. I admire Price for mixing things up, but I don't feel that it matters in the slightest.

[mbgrayson]

Reds starting lineup:

1. Phillips
2. Votto
3. Frazier
4. Bruce
5. Pena
6. Byrd
7. Cozart
8. Marquis
9. Hamilton


First time since 1933 that Reds haven't batted the pitcher 9th. Break the streak today boys!

[Raisor]

Arrange it any way you want, it's still full of bad hitters. I admire Price for mixing things up, but I don't feel that it matters in the slightest.

It's actually a pretty good lineup.

Only Hamilton could be considered "bad"

[cumberlandreds]

I probably won't even watch today with Marquis pitching. I think I will know what's going to happen.

[LexRedsFan]

Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic again, I see.

[Razor Shines]

I don't know how much difference it will make but that's about the best you can do lineup wise with this team.

[Raisor]

I like that the top three guys all have OBP over 345

#GlassHalfFull

[faffy42]

I like phillips leading off. Like votto at 2 hole. Like bham 9th. Don't like bruce 4th. I plead the 5th if this is the magic potion needed.

[faffy42]

Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic again, I see.

I literally LOL. Wow...that was funny.

[Raisor]

I like phillips leading off. Like votto at 2 hole. Like bham 9th. Don't like bruce 4th. I plead the 5th if this is the magic potion needed.

Bruce is on fire. Ride him while he's hot.

[villain612]

Good lineup.

[Big Klu]

Jamie Ramsey ‏@Jamieblog 1m1 minute ago
According to Elias, the last time a #Reds pitcher didn't bat 9th in the starting lineup, came on 9/7/33 vs Brooklyn. (Red Lucas batted 7th)

Red Lucas was quite a hitter for a pitcher. In a 16-year career with the Dodgers, Braves, Reds, and Pirates he hit .281/.340/.347/.687 in 1607 PA's.

In his eight years as a Red, his line was .300/.361/.375/.735 in 1101 PA's. He also started three games at 2B, two at SS, and one in LF.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don't like Price, but that doesn't mean I can't salute a good decision of his:

Good lineup.

[TheBigLebowski]

Even when he puts together a good lineup his willingness to give away outs trumps it.

[Raisor]

Even when he puts together a good lineup his willingness to give away outs trumps it.

The good news is he won't be having Votto bunt.

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Even when he puts together a good lineup his willingness to give away outs trumps it.

And I like you more when you're Victorian.

;)

[TheBigLebowski]

The good news is he won't be having Votto bunt.

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And I like you more when you're Victorian.

;)

Bollocks!

[Raisor]

I'm at work.

I'm not doing anything work-like.

Time to watch the game!

[Raisor]

Game Update:

No update at this time.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Arrange it any way you want, it's still full of bad hitters. I admire Price for mixing things up, but I don't feel that it matters in the slightest.

And Bingo was his name-O.

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Empty stadium on a holiday kinda says it all.

[villain612]

Figured there would be more people at the game on a holiday.

Then again, Marquis on the mound isn't really a marquee draw.

[Chip R]

I'll give 3:1 odds Marquis will be out of there before he comes up to bat.

[Razor Shines]

Figured there would be more people at the game on a holiday.

Then again, Marquis on the mound isn't really a marquee draw.

I support this joke.

[Wonderful Monds]

Tl;dr that for you Creeper:

Jason Marquis has been having a Jason Marquis type of season.

[BCubb2003]

The good news is he won't be having Votto bunt.

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And I like you more when you're Victorian.

;)

The old-timey vernacular is a pleasant diversion.

[Tom Servo]

Marquis walks the leadoff batter, obviously.

[Wonderful Monds]

Figured there would be more people at the game on a holiday.

Then again, Marquis on the mound isn't really a marquee draw.

There's a pretty good chance it's gonna be raining here soon

Plus the weather isn't too great in town today, either.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Marquis de Sad

[villain612]

5 pitch walk to start the game.

Is it wrong that I kind of want Marquis to get shelled today?

[Raisor]

Charlie Blackman's beard is fab

[Razor Shines]

Please bunt.

[Tom Servo]

Nice pick by Votto.

[Raisor]

Game Update:

Joey Votto makes a beauty play, eh?

[Razor Shines]

The Average Sized Cat at first.

[JoshBresser]

Get Jason Marquis out of there. Now.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Infield in, holding runner at third. :laugh:

[Chip R]

Game Update:

Joey Votto makes a beauty play, eh?

He almost messed it up.

[Raisor]

Game update:

Jason Marquis

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He almost messed it up.

No one here cares what you think, Chip

[Stray]

lol

[Razor Shines]

It's almost as if Marquis is extremely hittable.

[Raisor]

Get Jason Marquis out of there. Now.

Nah, I want to see how bad it can get

[Chuckie]

LMAO @ Jason Marquis.

How could this inept front office give this clown another start? Hopefully this will be it. His nine lives are up. (9th start.)

[BluegrassRedleg]

Thom BARISP... Take a drink.

[NebraskaRed]

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/400sw409957.gif

[Razor Shines]

Thom BARISP... Take a drink.

Done.

[BCubb2003]

Thom BARISP... Take a drink.

Welsh is having none of it.

[Chuckie]

Votto has reverted back to being a bad defensive player. He'll make some good plays but overall he's very bad. How he didn't get charged with an error yesterday on a ground ball hit right at him is beyond me. Oh wait, MLB official scorers are like Little League moms. Nevermind. It's not beyond me at all.

Watched a college baseball game over the weekend (league tournament championship between Wright State and Milwaukee). The official scorer was giving errors to shortstops on extremely tough plays over the middle. On one play, the SS ranged behind second base, made a great play to get to the ball, barely juggled it for a millisecond, fired a strike to first ... and the runner barely beat it out. It was ruled an error.

Even I was like "C'mon man, that should be a hit." But the point is that MLB defensive players should be held to a certain standard. Like if a ground ball is hit right at you and you boot it (like Votto yesterday) it's an automatic error. Doesn't matter if it was "hit really hard." You're a professional baseball player performing at the highest level. The standard for college players shouldn't be higher than MLB players.

[Tony Cloninger]

I approve of Price's attempts to generate something by moving the lineup around. Quit giving so many starts now to Negron and Boesch and Skip would also help. Now it is up to these guys to start doing something.

[villain612]

Rockies are just as bad as we are.

It's almost like having a high batting average with RISP has no correlation to win totals.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Welsh is having none of it.

He cut that off FAST. :laugh:

[Raisor]

He cut that off FAST. :laugh:

One day Welsh is going to snap, and it will be full of glory.

[Tony Cloninger]

This Rockies team was not hitting at all but it looks like they brought their bats with them today. You cannot keep good hitters down too long.

[Chip R]

No one here cares what you think, Chip

I think Raisor is awesome.

[Tom Servo]

Jason Marquis update: The ERA reached 7.00 that inning, but dropped back down to 6.96.

[Wonderful Monds]

One day Welsh is going to snap, and it will be full of glory.

I remember he did last year once, it was awesome.

[Raisor]

I think Raisor is awesome.

Everyone needs to listen to Chip!

[Larkin Fan]

Reds are wearing those camouflaged brimmed caps in hopes that we won't see how bad they are.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds will win this game today. You'll all see. YOU'LL ALL SEE.


Or they won't, what do I know

[JoshBresser]

No CarGo, No Tulo, No problem.

[Wonderful Monds]

Thom BARISP... Take a drink.

"BA-RISP!"

Sounds like one of those exclamations on the old Batman TV show whenever someone would get punched. "KA-POW!"

[Chip R]

Votto has reverted back to being a bad defensive player. He'll make some good plays but overall he's very bad. How he didn't get charged with an error yesterday on a ground ball hit right at him is beyond me. Oh wait, MLB official scorers are like Little League moms. Nevermind. It's not beyond me at all.

Watched a college baseball game over the weekend (league tournament championship between Wright State and Milwaukee). The official scorer was giving errors to shortstops on extremely tough plays over the middle. On one play, the SS ranged behind second base, made a great play to get to the ball, barely juggled it for a millisecond, fired a strike to first ... and the runner barely beat it out. It was ruled an error.

Even I was like "C'mon man, that should be a hit." But the point is that MLB defensive players should be held to a certain standard. Like if a ground ball is hit right at you and you boot it (like Votto yesterday) it's an automatic error. Doesn't matter if it was "hit really hard." You're a professional baseball player performing at the highest level. The standard for college players shouldn't be higher than MLB players.

Better watch it or you'll be permabanned from RaisorZone.

[Chuckie]

Marquis is going to end up staying in this rotation all year. Waterboarding for Reds fans.

[BluegrassRedleg]

2 hole magic for Votto.

[Raisor]

Wait, did FSO just show BP's OBP and not his avg?

I'm in love.

[Larkin Fan]

Joey loves that 2 spot.

[Tom Servo]

No RBIs by Votto on that double. What the hell are we paying him for?

[Raisor]

Better watch it or you'll be permabanned from RaisorZone.

Don't try me onion boy

[NebraskaRed]

Votto + 2 spot 4eva

[Raisor]

Votto warming back up

[Razor Shines]

Joey Votto was yearning for that two hole.

[Tom Servo]

Frazier! :jump:

[Chuckie]

Boom! 2-run blast from Frazier.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Price lineup FTW

[Wonderful Monds]

Joey loves that 2 spot.

I was gonna start giggling like a 12 year old if you'd said 2 hole.

[Raisor]

Around goes Frazier

[miamiredskin]

Toddfather!

[Raisor]

Boom! 2-run blast from Frazier.

You aren't invited to tonight's after party, so don't even try.

[Stray]

You can only hope to contain this Reds offense.

[villain612]

BARISP!!!!!

[Wonderful Monds]

Votto warming back up

I know Marquis is bad but as great as Joey is I'd prefer he'd stay at first.

[BCubb2003]

Batting Hamilton ninth was a great idea.

[BluegrassRedleg]

"BA-RISP!"

Sounds like one of those exclamations on the old Batman TV show whenever someone would get punched. "KA-POW!"

Need a comic illustration of Welsh socking Thom with "BA-RISP!" in the action bubble.

[Chuckie]

Better watch it or you'll be permabanned from RaisorZone.

Who's Raisor?

:cool:

[thatcoolguy_22]

It seems Marquis has started every game the last 2 weeks.

[Raisor]

Game Update.

Bruce singles.

I'm still damn sexy.

[Chuckie]

BARISP!!!!!

Haha! Beat me to it.

[Razor Shines]

That was a nice line drive hit from Bruce, but I still think Boesch needed a few more starts in a row to really see how...low that OPS could get.

[Raisor]

You can't win 20 in a row without winning one.

#Artofwar

[Chuckie]

Is Marquis wins this game, Price will label him "a stopper." His "veteran presence" will be lauded.

Jocketty will sign him to a 2-year extension.

[villain612]

Butler channeling his inner Marquis.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Worst throw ever to record a CS.

[Wonderful Monds]

Joey Votto was yearning for that two hole.


I was gonna start giggling like a 12 year old if you'd said 2 hole.

:ughmamoru:

[Chuckie]

Just a beautiful idea to hit-and-run there ... and run yourself out of an inning when you have a terrible pitcher on the mound. Nice work.

[Raisor]

Well that was a disaster

[Stray]

Just a beautiful idea to hit-and-run there ... and run yourself out of an inning when you have a terrible pitcher on the mound. Nice work.

Anytime the hitter swings and misses on a hit and run it's a disaster.

[757690]

When a pitcher is struggling, bad time to be cute. Just pound away at him.

[Falcon7]

JHC Jay, learn how to slide!

[Chuckie]

Anytime the hitter swings and misses on a hit and run it's a disaster.

The point is, you don't hit-and-run when the pitcher is struggling. That's typical Reds' low baseball IQ. Price doesn't understand sabermetrics for the life of him.

You hit-and-run to try and spark something when you're struggling and there's a good pitcher on the mound. Not in that situation. Just bad baseball right there.

[Wonderful Monds]

When a pitcher is struggling, bad time to be cute. Just pound away at him.
Price's big problem, overthinks it. He just needs to plug and play sometimes. Must be a pitching coach thing.

[mbgrayson]

But after 1 inning, we are up 2-1!

[Raisor]

Price's big problem, overthinks it. He just needs to plug and play sometimes. Must be a pitching coach thing.

He's doing what a lot of new managers do, he's over-managing. Trying to take too much control of the game.

[Stray]

The point is, you don't hit-and-run when the pitcher is struggling. That's typical Reds' low baseball IQ.

Aggressive baserunning is one of the few things we're really good at on offense. Why would we stop doing that on a 3-1 count with a good contact hitter at the plate?

Stays out of a DP or maybe gets a big rally going.

[Chuckie]

Byrd has reverted back to his April ways.

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Aggressive baserunning is one of the few things we're really good at on offense. Why would we stop doing that on a 3-1 count with a good contact hitter at the plate?

Stays out of a DP or maybe gets a big rally going.

Or runs you right out of an inning.

[Raisor]

Game update

Jason Marquis' beard, not that fab.

[Stray]

Byrd has reverted back to his April ways.

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Or runs you right out of an inning.

Well yes, that is the risk when you're aggressive on the basepaths.

Our season numbers speak for themselves, it's working a lot more than it's not working.

[Tom Servo]

Thom feels personally accosted by the Frazier error.

[Raisor]

Votto just didn't stretch enough

[villain612]

"Goodness gracious."

I finally agree with Thom on something.

[Wonderful Monds]

Oh shut the hell up Thom. I hate the personal offense taken to any miscue the Reds make, no less one made by a player who has been GG worthy all year otherwise.

[miamiredskin]

"Goodness gracious."

Seriously, the Reds infield has played some shoddy defense lately.

[757690]

The new lineup hasn't changed the lackadaisical effort from the Reds on defense.

[KittyDuran]

And Bingo was his name-O.

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Empty stadium on a holiday kinda says it all.

It's threatening to rain.

[757690]

I hope Pete has the over on this game.

[villain612]

That was pretty low stress play/throw for Frazier.

I know guys make mistakes and all but can't really afford those with Marquis de suck pitching.

[Raisor]

I think the pitcher swinging away against Marquis is a higher percentage play.

[Chuckie]

Well yes, that is the risk when you're aggressive on the basepaths.

Our season numbers speak for themselves, it's working a lot more than it's not working.

You're missing the point. The Rockies' pitcher was struggling to say the least. You don't hit-and-run and bail him out in that situation. Every situation is different and when a bad pitcher is struggling is not a good time to attempt a hit-and-run. There are much more optimal times.

[Raisor]

Blockmon's beard is fantastic

[Wonderful Monds]

I feel like this dude's beard is a year or two out of fashion.

[Razor Shines]

You're missing the point. The Rockies' pitcher was struggling to say the least. You don't hit-and-run and bail him out in that situation. Every situation is different and when a bad pitcher is struggling is not a good time to attempt a hit-and-run. There are much more optimal times.

Pena swung and missed ball 4 and then walked on the next pitch. That was a terrible time for the hit and run.

[Raisor]

I feel like this dude's beard is a year or two out of fashion.



Negative

[Stray]

You're missing the point. The Rockies' pitcher was struggling to say the least. You don't hit-and-run and bail him out in that situation. Every situation is different and when a bad pitcher is struggling is not a good time to attempt a hit-and-run. There are much more optimal times.

Our slowest player at bat in a hitters count, with a guy on 1st base and 1 out.
Contact hitter with a good eye.
Decent speed at 1st.

Sounds to me like the perfect time to hit and run.

[Chuckie]

Caught between wanting the Reds to end the losing streak ... and wanting to see Jason Marquis get rocked so hard that even our dense front office has no choice but to release him.

[Stray]

I cannot believe Marquis struck Blackmon out haha.

[Chuckie]

Our slowest player at bat in a hitters count, with a guy on 1st base and 1 out.
Contact hitter with a good eye.
Decent speed at 1st.

Sounds to me like the perfect time to hit and run.

You're not into sabermetrics, are you? There is never a "perfect" time to hit-and-run. In fact, sabermetrics say you should never do it (not counting 3-2 with two outs). I'm not saying I would go that far, but what we saw last inning certainly was not the "perfect" time to hit-and-run.

[JoshBresser]

This has to be his last start right?

[Chuckie]

Rockies 3
Jason Marquis Sucks 2

[Wonderful Monds]

Marquis gonna Marquis.

[Raisor]

Game Update

Marquis

[BluegrassRedleg]

Drink.

[villain612]

The Marquis de leadgone

[Tony Cloninger]

I feel like this dude's beard is a year or two out of fashion.

Baseball players are always slow to to realize when a fashion fad or look is over. The Hawk was wearing Nehru jackets in 1968......which were so 1967.

[Tom Servo]

Marquis not holding runners on at all.

[Raisor]

Oh my dear gracious shut up Thommy

[Chuckie]

Marquis holds on runners about as well as he pitches. What a joke. How is he on a team?

[Wonderful Monds]

BA-RISP!

Pow! Biff! Marquis!

[Razor Shines]

Welsh changes his mind and is back on board with BARISP

[texasdave]

If they send Marquis out there again, that just shows you this team's management has given up. This is a recording.

[JoshBresser]

This team doesn't even care

[Chuckie]

Think Manny Parra can go 6 innings today?

[Wonderful Monds]

2008 Reds playing the IF today.

[Chuckie]

This team doesn't even care

They really do have that look. Like "Oh well, we're not going anywhere this year anyway."

And I can't even blame them.

[Stray]

You're not into sabermetrics, are you? There is never a "perfect" time to hit-and-run. In fact, sabermetrics say you should never do it. I'm not saying I would go that far, but what we saw last inning certainly was not the "perfect" time to hit-and-run.

I'm saying that you can easily make an argument for why you shouldn't hit and run, after a hit and run failed, in any possible situation.

One of our biggest strengths on offense is our aggressiveness on the bases. We shouldn't shy away from that now that times are tough.

You make the call trusting Pena to put the bat on a strike or to take a ball. He messed up, it looked ugly and that's that.

[villain612]

I can feel a home run coming anytime now.

[Raisor]

Thom is really good at reading team notes.

[Wonderful Monds]

If they send Marquis out there again, that just shows you this team's management has given up. This is a recording.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3_V_2BFWahc

[Raisor]

Jason Marquis mans up and strikes that mutha out.

[NebraskaRed]

I know baseball is very hard, hitting especially. But what does it feel like when Jason Marquis strikes you out?

[Raisor]

I know baseball is very hard, hitting especially. But what does it feel like when Jason Marquis strikes you out?

Like you were just licked on the face by Bobcat Goldwaith

[Stray]

2 innings of 1ER baseball and Marquis' ERA is plummeting.

[Razor Shines]

Like you were just licked on the face by Bobcat Goldwaith

Oh, imagine how Nikki Cox feels.

[Raisor]

Oh, imagine how Nikki Cox feels.

I did, 15 years ago.

[JoshBresser]

I hope Marquis 8/ Billy 9 isn't just because Marquis is a good hitting pitcher, and it's permanent.

[Raisor]

Jason Marquis

[Razor Shines]

I did, 15 years ago.

Ok, well then imagine how Jay Mohr feels.

[Raisor]

Ok, well then imagine how Jay Mohr feels.

Why is Bobcat licking Jay's face?

[Wonderful Monds]

Jaaaaaaaaasoooooon Maaaaaarquiiiiiiis!

[Falcon7]

The constant, never ending, Thom bashing is ridiculous on this board! Same ole Crap over and over and over...

[Raisor]

BP looks like he's lost some weight

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The constant, never ending, Thom bashing is ridiculous on this board! Same ole Crap over and over and over...

That's because he's horrible.

[Razor Shines]

The constant, never ending, Thom bashing is ridiculous on this board! Same ole Crap over and over and over...

Go eat a biscuit.

[RedlegJake]

The constant, never ending, Thom bashing is ridiculous on this board! Same ole Crap over and over and over...

Because he harps on the same crap over and over and over?

[Raisor]

Wow

[villain612]

If there was a drinking game for everytime BARISP was mentioned, we'd all be hammered by now.

[Wonderful Monds]

The constant, never ending, Thom bashing is ridiculous! Same ole Crap over and over and over...

Doesn't take much to make this read more accurately.

[villain612]

The constant, never ending, Thom bashing is ridiculous on this board! Same ole Crap over and over and over...

Thom, is that you?

[Falcon7]

BP looks like he's lost some weight

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That's because he's horrible.

Really, I had no idea you felt that way...

[Raisor]

Really, I had no idea you felt that way...

It's funny you complaining about people trashing Thom.

What percentage of your posts do you think involve you trashing Votto? (oh snap!)

[Razor Shines]

If there was a drinking game for everytime BARISP was mentioned, we'd all be hammered by now.

Are we not doing that? I may not have enough beer.

[Wonderful Monds]

If there was a drinking game for everytime BARISP was mentioned, we'd all be hammered by now.

BA-RISP! KA-CHUG!

Hic-CUP!

[RedTeamGo!]

It is amazing to me that Jason Marquis is still on this team. Truly amazing.

[miamiredskin]

Nice effort by Jay, there.

[Wonderful Monds]

Are we not doing that? I may not have enough beer.

Life is a drinking game, to me.

[RedlegJake]

squirmed out of that inning

[Wonderful Monds]

"I(...)tackle my son in the shower(...)if I want to(...)"

- Thom Brenneman

[NebraskaRed]

you guys, I'm starting to think that Jason Marquis might not be very good. I'd like to see him make a few more starts, though. He is a veteran player, after all.

[Raisor]

By the way, in this here thread I said something nice about Thom:


Thom is really good at reading team notes.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Drink.

[Raisor]

Oh my dear lord.

Shut up Thom

[BluegrassRedleg]

:beerme:

[Tom Servo]

Screwed by BABIP that inning.

[Stray]

The more it looks like we'll be sellers with a bunch of young guys in the rotation, I wouldn't DFA Marquis, I'd just keep him in the bullpen for those days when one of our young pitchers throws 100 pitches in 3 innings. He's a bad pitcher, but if he were an emergency innings eater I wouldn't mind.

[Razor Shines]

Dear god.

[Raisor]

Bruce was all over that one.

[miamiredskin]

Can't believe Thom pointing out 0-33 barisp. What a meaningless stat.

[faffy42]

A salute to anyone who has served, or is serving our country on this board...THANK YOU!!!!!

[Falcon7]

It's funny you complaining about people trashing Thom.

What percentage of your posts do you think involve you trashing Votto? (oh snap!)

It's about a ratio of 1 (Me disrespecting / not worshipping Joey) to 10,000 (RedsZone, bashing Thom). Correct?

[Raisor]

Screwed by BABIP that inning.

9174

[villain612]

Clearly the Reds need to add more points to the BARISP column.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/mlb-12-the-show/thumb/2/28/Mlb12theshow_-_20.jpg/450px-Mlb12theshow_-_20.jpg

[JoshBresser]

Well, at least Marquis isn't Jeremy Guthrie.

[Raisor]

It's about a ratio of 1 (Me disrespecting / not worshipping Joey) to 10,000 (RedsZone, bashing Thom). Correct?

"not worshipping Joey".

sure.

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Well, at least Marquis isn't Jeremy Guthrie.


He's not even Arlo Guthrie

[Tadasimha]

We did learn that, as far as Thom is concerned, the Reds are Frazier's team

[Razor Shines]

Can't believe Thom pointing out 0-33 barisp. What a meaningless stat.

Yeah, it is. Good point.

[ScotlandRed]

Is there anyway someone can find out Jay Bruce' K rate over the last 10 days/2 weeks?

[NebraskaRed]

The Reds are playing horribly, and Jason Marquis is ridiculously bad, make no doubt about it. But the thing that annoys me most about Thom is that he reacts to certain things as if no other player or team has ever done something like that before. He simply cannot believe a third baseman would make an error. It is UNBELIEVABLE that someone would swing at the first pitch and pop out.

It's faux shock and disgust.

[Raisor]

Is there anyway someone can find out Jay Bruce' K rate over the last 10 days/2 weeks?

baseballreference.com

[texasdave]

"not worshipping Joey".

sure.

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He's not even Arlo Guthrie

After all the bats he's hit today, they may start calling him Woody Guthrie.

[RedlegJake]

I'm going to play contrarian - I think Marquis veteran presence and savvy and his 78-83 mph repertoire is a needed pickup for a team on the rise

[Raisor]

After all the bats he's hit today, they may start calling him Woody Guthrie.

I like Arlo more.

Alice's Restaurant is genius.

[Tom Servo]

Marquis gonna Marquis.

[Wonderful Monds]

Whammy!

[Raisor]

I'm going to play contrarin - I think Marquis veteran presence and savvy and his 78-83 mph repertoire is a needed pickup for a team n the rise

that's because you're stupid.

[Falcon7]

Warm up somebody, now!

[villain612]

The Marquis de launchingpad

[Stray]

I think Thom is no doubt one of the more talented announcers in sports today. What makes him annoying at times is that he's an actual Reds fan. And the Reds are bad.

[JoshBresser]

This is probably Jason Marquis' last big league start.

[Raisor]

That was deep but I think if Joey stretched better he could have had it.

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Warm up somebody, now!

Why?

[RedlegJake]

that's because you're stupid.

direct and to the point as always Raisor, but now I'm boycotting the Nobel Awards and won't see you collect your prizes

[androosh]

"And that ball...was really hit..." - great commentary there

[Tadasimha]

I'm going to play contrarian - I think Marquis veteran presence and savvy and his 78-83 mph repertoire is a needed pickup for a team on the rise

You'll need to change your Redszone handle to ContrarianJinx, I'm afraid.

[villain612]

I wish Thom was as obsessed with questioning why Marquis is even on this team still as he is with BARISP.

[Raisor]

direct and to the point as always Raisor, but now I'm boycotting the Nobel Awards and won't see you collect your prizes

I think I'm only getting three this year. Was thinking about no-showing myself.

[Larkin Fan]

70 pitches as the 4th inning ends. Innings eater? Uh huh, right

[Raisor]

70 pitches as the 4th inning ends. Innings eater? Uh huh, right

He needs to pitch all 9. I want to see how many pitches it takes him.

[RedlegJake]

70 pitches as the 4th inning ends. Innings eater? Uh huh, right

well you can let him throw 160 or 170 pitches because his arm is already dead.

[RedTeamGo!]

Has Thom said anything negative about Jason Marquis during his BARISP bashing?

[Tom Servo]

Nice double for the Byrd man.

[Raisor]

Really...REAlly....REALLLLLY good.

Thanks Thom

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I seem to be lost in time. Byrd just doubled.

[Falcon7]

Only 72 more wins needed to get to your prediction.

[Todd Gack]

it's about a ratio of 1 (me disrespecting / not worshipping joey) to 10,000 (redszone, bashing thom). Correct?

(thomvoice) it is simply AMAAAAZING that one will continue to listen to the same old garbage and continue to complain about the same old garbage.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Really...REAlly....REALLLLLY good.

Thanks Thom

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I seem to be lost in time. Byrd just doubled.

He's a wordsmith.

[Wonderful Monds]

literally lmao thom

[RedlegJake]

Nice double by Byrd but I still loathe him. When Ben Lively wins 15 a year for 4 or 5 years people are going to realize why

[BCubb2003]

Slip Thom a note about batting average against with RISP.

[Raisor]

Walks
Will
Haunt

[Wonderful Monds]

Thom, are you advocating against bunting?

[Stray]

Was a good call not to bunt Marquis

[BluegrassRedleg]

:beerme:

[Razor Shines]

AHHHHHH!!!!! Thom! I'm out of beer.

[Raisor]

GAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!


I'm switching to Marty

[BluegrassRedleg]

I'm starting to wonder if he's just trolling now. If not, he's gone full-Ahab.

[Cedric]

Marquis and Kevin Gregg will be remembered as the end of Walt Jocketty's long career running baseball teams. Please quit Walt.

[Tom Servo]

Nice double by Byrd but I still loathe him. When Ben Lively wins 15 a year for 4 or 5 years people are going to realize why
Saw this on Twitter yesterday

https://twitter.com/ChrisMellen

Chris Mellen
‏@ChrisMellen
Working on some reports after a day at the park. First blush of #Phillies RHP Ben Lively gives me a RP feel, but arsenal to keep polishing.

Chris Mellen @ChrisMellen · 19h 19 hours ago
Lively does create good deception and hides the ball well. Saw a FB that can play up more in shorter burst when paired with darting SL.

[Tadasimha]

There ya go, Billy

[NebraskaRed]

What's that called when you get a hit and the runner is on 2nd or 3rd?

[757690]

Nice double by Byrd but I still loathe him. When Ben Lively wins 15 a year for 4 or 5 years people are going to realize why

Lively has a 3.47 ERA in AA with a 6.9K rate.

I can see him win 15 a year in AA 4-5 years from now ;)

[Raisor]

Do runs count more if they are with two outs?

[Larkin Fan]

He needs to pitch all 9. I want to see how many pitches it takes him.

I like that idea. Price will still say he's close to getting together though.

[BCubb2003]

This round goes to Thom, but Chris is chipping away.

[Kc61]

Nice double for the Byrd man.

Byrd at .207 flirting with that coveted .210 BA level. You can just see the Mendoza line moving further and further into the background.

Cozart walks, which is more common this year, good for him. Shows you, if you hit a little the pitcher may walk you.

Marquis strikes out. A pinch hitter might have been wise there, since the Reds trail and runs would be helpful.

Ninth place hitter Hamilton, fearing that he will soon hit tenth, with a patient at bat. Gets ahead 3-0, then a strike.
Billy with a nice looping liner into center for a hit and an RBI. People searching the web to see when the Reds last singled a run home..

Former Red Steve Foster getting a lot of video time on the Reds telecast. He's in the Rockies dugout. I remember him as a good young pitcher, then he got hurt. Apparently a Rockies coach of some kind.

BP does the unthinkable. Swings at the dreaded first pitch. Patience Brandon, Anyway, the Reds are getting closer and trail by a run.

[NebraskaRed]

Byrd at .207 flirting with that coveted .210 BA level. You can just see the Mendoza line moving further and further into the background.

Cozart walks, which is more common this year, good for him. Shows you, if you hit a little the pitcher may walk you.

Marquis strikes out. A pinch hitter might have been wise there, since the Reds trail and runs would be helpful.

Ninth place hitter Hamilton, fearing that he will soon hit tenth, with a patient at bat. Gets ahead 3-0, then a strike.
Billy with a nice looping liner into center for a hit and an RBI. People searching the web to see when the Reds last singled a run home..

Former Red Steve Foster getting a lot of video time on the Reds telecast. He's in the Rockies dugout. I remember him as a good young pitcher, then he got hurt.

BP does the unthinkable. Swings at the dreaded first pitch. Patience Brandon, Anyway, the Reds are getting closer and trail by a run.

Marquis had a better chance of hitting the ball than anyone on the bench.

[757690]

This round goes to Thom, but Chris is chipping away.

There are some good points to make about BARISP. Thom hasn't shut up about them all season, and has yet to make one.

[Raisor]

It would still annoy me, but I'd be less annoyed if he used OPSRISP

[BluegrassRedleg]

Do runs count more if they are with two outs?

Only if you have the power-up...

9175

[Tom Servo]

I'm legit angry that Marquis ERA has gotten lower in this start.

[Kc61]

Marquis had a better chance of hitting the ball than anyone on the bench.

That is probably true. Particularly in light of the Parra/Mes decision leaving the Reds with a four man bench.

Schumaker has been hitting better, there I said it, but it's too early for your main PH threat. Barnhart is the backup catcher can't use him. Which leaves Negron and Boesch.

Looking at the bench, you really have to wonder how this Reds team was built.

One on, one out against Marquis here in the fifth, but now a CS. End of innings, 4-3 Rocks.