6/8/15 - Reds vs. Phillies: Nobody (messes) with De Jesus

[Tom Servo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG_pn67UIAAwUB-.jpg

Early lineup today.

[Raisor]

Nobody better mess with DeJesus

[757690]

So is Boesch Cingrani'a best friend? Why does Price hate him?

[miamiredskin]

So is Boesch Cingrani'a best friend? Why does Price hate him?

Price is a "players' manager." That leaves Boesch out.

[Tom Servo]

So is Boesch Cingrani'a best friend? Why does Price hate him?
Probably because Boesch is, how do I put this nicely...garbage.

[texasdave]

Are they playing a 'De' game? :beerme:

[757690]

Probably because Boesch is, how do I put this nicely...garbage.

And Skip, Negron and DeJesus aren't? At least Boesch has three years of starting in the outfield his belt. He also hits lefties and righties the same, so no need to platoon him.

Skip has been the team's best pinch hitter, and Negron and DeJesus are infielders. Why waste them as starting LF?

[Big Klu]

And Skip, Negron and DeJesus aren't? At least Boesch has three years of starting in the outfield his belt. He also hits lefties and righties the same, so no need to platoon him.

Skip has been the team's best pinch hitter, and Negron and DeJesus are infielders. Why waste them as starting LF?

Even so, the lefty-hitting Boesch is not going to start against Hamels.

[757690]

Even so, the lefty-hitting Boesch is not going to start against Hamels.

Boesch .765 OPS vs LHP. .695 OPS vs. RHP.

[Raisor]

Boesch .765 OPS vs LHP. .695 OPS vs. RHP.

It would have been helpful if you noted that these were his career splits.

:)

[757690]

It would have been helpful if you noted that these were his career splits.

:)

Well, they are both above .400, so they can't be from this year ;)

[Big Klu]

Boesch .765 OPS vs LHP. .695 OPS vs. RHP.

Doesn't matter. The only way he was going to start against Hamels is if there were no other options available.

[757690]

Doesn't matter. The only way he was going to start against Hamels is if there were no other options available.

I could make a strong argument that that is the case, lol. It really doesn't matter, but it just seems strange that he hasn't gotten a single start in LF since Byrd was injured.

[Ironman92]

Go Reds

[Banshee]

Boesch has been hurting w/ a sore back /M. Sheldon
http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/2015/06/08/boesch-bourgeois-updates/

[RedsBrick]

Boesch has been hurting w/ a sore back /M. Sheldon
http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/2015/06/08/boesch-bourgeois-updates/

Thanks for posting...good to know. At this stage of the game and with what the Reds have to work with, it makes sense to give Boesch a look for a handful of games in a row to gauge what he can do...if anything. It really is a what-do-you-have-to-lose situation.

[RedTeamGo!]

Boesch is garbage, who cares?

[757690]

Boesch is garbage, who cares?

The injury explains it, but it makes no sense to have him on the roster as the backup OF, if you aren't going to use him when an OF gets hurt.

Also, he's not garbage. This is his career slash line from over 1500 PA's: .253/.306/.405/.712, with solid defense.

Not starting material, but a solid back up, and definitely not garbage.

[RedTeamGo!]

The injury explains it, but it makes no sense to have him on the roster as the backup OF, if you aren't going to use him when an OF gets hurt.

Also, he's not garbage. This is his career slash line from over 1500 PA's: .253/.306/.405/.712, with solid defense.

Not starting material, but a solid back up, and definitely not garbage.

Sure, but that includes the year he crushed the ball in detroit like 6 years ago. What has he done the last 3 years?

[Raisor]

The injury explains it, but it makes no sense to have him on the roster as the backup OF, if you aren't going to use him when an OF gets hurt.

Also, he's not garbage. This is his career slash line from over 1500 PA's: .253/.306/.405/.712, with solid defense.

Not starting material, but a solid back up, and definitely not garbage.


So he should start but he's not a starter. I got soul, but I'm not a soldier.

Until Rocco is ready I'd just assume use DeJesus.

[757690]

So he should start but he's not a starter. I got soul, but I'm not a soldier.

Until Rocco is ready I'd just assume use DeJesus.

Boesch is the only true OF, who has experience starting in the OF for a MLB team. It kinds seems like an obvious choice. Why would you want to play a guy out of position?

[Wonderful Monds]

Are they playing a 'De' game? :beerme:

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/boo_this_man_half_baked.gif

[Wonderful Monds]

Boesch has been hurting w/ a sore back /M. Sheldon
http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/2015/06/08/boesch-bourgeois-updates/

He is officially listed as day-to-day with a "hurt whatever or something who cares."

[klw]

Reds trail 1-0.

[Banshee]

3 hard hits against Leake, 1-0 bad guys. Not fooling anyone except Utley, go figure.

[NebraskaRed]

I thought a hotel in Louisville would carry Fox Sports Ohio, but I was wrong.

Thanks, Louisville! I still like your bourbon.

[klw]

Reds tie it back up. It looks like Leake forgot his adjustments and it not exactly unhittable.

[Ironman92]

Cole Hamels looks like he grew 3 inches

[Big Klu]

Boesch is the only true OF, who has experience starting in the OF for a MLB team. It kinds seems like an obvious choice. Why would you want to play a guy out of position?

Because Price wants another right-handed bat in the lineup against Hamels, and he doesn't want to go with Negrón.

And Schumaker is also a natural OF with starting experience in MLB.

Look, I don't think it's a great situation, either. I would rather have an actual right-handed OF on the bench, but when you have a 13-man pitching staff and only four bats on the bench (one of which is a catcher, and another which is a SS) then your choices are limited.

If he's healthy, I wouldn't be surprised to see Boesch start tomorrow against a righty.

[_Sir_Charles_]

WOW! Billy takes home! Love it!!!

Steals 2nd, steals 3rd...steals HOME! :O)

[NebraskaRed]

Run Billy Run.

Was that his first steal of home?

[757690]

Billy Steals home! Finally!

[Stray]

I've never seen that happen before.

[Ironman92]

Billy x3

[757690]

BOOOOOOOOOOO Official Scorer. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Ironman92]

Correction

Billy x2

[_Sir_Charles_]

They ruled it a "fielder's choice". Bollocks. That was a swipe! :O)

[757690]

Havoc!

[Donder]

They ruled it a "fielder's choice". Bollocks. That was a swipe! :O)

Who knew that fielders had a choice about forcing a guy out at first on a walk?

Billy was robbed there.

[757690]

No way that's fielder's choice. Ruiz did not have a choice to throw Hamilton out. What a stupid call by the official scorer.

[Big Klu]

No way that's fielder's choice. Ruiz did not have a choice to throw Hamilton out. What a stupid call by the official scorer.

Maybe the scoring decision will be changed.

I don't see how it's different from a delayed steal.

['69]

They ruled it a "fielder's choice". Bollocks. That was a swipe! :O)

I hope that gets re-reversed...a fielder can sure choose to throw to first on a walk, but wouldn't a steal from 2nd to 3rd still count as a SB on ball four?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Vottomatic! Nope, he can't play defense. :O)

[Red Raindog]

Mike to Joseph ---- thank you sir!

[757690]

It's the same as if Billy stole home while the runner was caught in a rundown between 1st and 2nd. I don't understand the call. Maybe it's an obscure rule in the official scorer's rule book,

[Banshee]

Reds pick in MLB draft in around 13 minutes /DougDirt.

[Razor Shines]

What a hot dog.

[_Sir_Charles_]

It's the same as if Billy stole home while the runner was caught in a rundown between 1st and 2nd. I don't understand the call. Maybe it's an obscure rule in the official scorer's rule book,

Honestly, I think the official ump was stumped and put it down that way while he confers with some people. It was an odd play to be sure. I'll wait and see how it ends up standing first.

[Big Klu]

Reds pick in MLB draft in around 13 minutes /DougDirt.

What pick do the Reds have?

[_Sir_Charles_]

What pick do the Reds have?

11. Cubs on clock, then phillies and then us.

Cubs just took Happ from Cincinnati.

[Big Klu]

Thom: "It's just a BEAUTIFUL night!"

(Chris picks up umbrella and heads for cover.)

[Banshee]

Good AB by Bruuce, didn't get anything for it but a K, but he seems to be seeing the ball much better.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Phils took Randolph (ss). Reds on the clock.

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Good AB by Bruuce, didn't get anything for it but a K, but he seems to be seeing the ball much better.

Painful at bat too. How many of those did he foul off himself? Sheesh.

[Raisor]

Phils took Randolph (ss). Reds on the clock.

.

What do I need with a SS?

[Chip R]

Ashy Larry just crapped out.

[Big Klu]

I wonder if Ivan DeJesus Sr. is at the game. Thom mentioned last weekend that he lives in the Cincinnati area.

[Red Raindog]

I wonder if Ivan DeJesus Sr. is at the game. Thom mentioned last weekend that he lives in the Cincinnati area.

Jr. smoked one there --- just an at 'em though

[Slippin'Jimmy]

For anyone watching the draft...what in the hell was that a picture of on the wall? Everyone was looking at it. Looked like a Chippendale's add.

[Raisor]

Jr. smoked one there --- just an at 'em though

Nobody better mess with DeJesus

[Banshee]

Stephenson to Stephenson. Coming to GABP 2017/2018.

[Red Raindog]

the replacement for Mez has been selected - Tyler Stephenson

[Ironman92]

Was hoping for Benintendi

His mom is my school's league all-time leading scorer in basketball and #12 in Ohio girls basketball history

[Big Klu]

For anyone watching the draft...what in the hell was that a picture of on the wall? Everyone was looking at it. Looked like a Chippendale's add.

http://www.awardsdaily.com/tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Chippendales.jpg

[_Sir_Charles_]

For those who aren't following we took Tyler Stephenson (c). High Schooler with some pop.

[Ironman92]

Big ol catcher

[Slippin'Jimmy]

http://www.awardsdaily.com/tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Chippendales.jpg


Shockingly, I don't think that was the one.

[Banshee]

The "bat flip" they're talking about:
https://vine.co/v/eZPvIDtHtY2

[Big Klu]

Another passed ball for Barnhart.

[George Foster]

can someone tell me why Votto did not step on 1st base before throwing home. He was 3 feet from the bag. He had all the time in the world. He caught the runner in a run down. It cost us a run.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Another passed ball for Barnhart.

Yeah, I have no idea. Only thing I can think of is lack of playing time/reps. It's certainly not normal for him at all.

[Raisor]

can someone tell me why Votto did not step on 1st base before throwing home. .

Spite

[Banshee]

Yeah, I have no idea. Only thing I can think of is lack of playing time/reps. It's certainly not normal for him at all.

I agree, his defense has been incredibly erratic this yr. after obviously being nails on D last yr.

[Big Klu]

Yeah, I have no idea. Only thing I can think of is lack of playing time/reps. It's certainly not normal for him at all.

That's officially his second PB of the season, but there have been at least two or three wild pitches with him behind the plate that should have been scored passed balls.

He also had three PB's in limited playing time last year for the Reds.

[Big Klu]

Thom now professing his undying love for LeBron.

Urban will be jealous.

[_Sir_Charles_]

K#3 for Jay. Tough match up with Hamels for him I think.

[Chip R]

Thom now professing his undying love for LeBron.

Urban will be jealous.

I'm not a big LeBron fan but you have to admit, the worst thing he's ever done was "The Decision." No scandals off the court. He does whine on the court when calls don't go his way but they all do that. Kids could do a lot worse than having him as someone to look up to.

[Red Raindog]

Thom now professing his undying love for LeBron.

Urban will be jealous.

don't tell Chapman

[Ironman92]

Bruce got hosed and Leake isn't getting any wide calls.

Leake will no way get thru the 6th unscathed

[traderumor]

Looks like Bill Hall has been reincarted and plays for the Phillies.

[Tracy Jones]

K#3 for Jay. Tough match up with Hamels for him I think.

6-26 with 2 HR's vs Hamels coming into tonight. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/batvspitch/_/id/6216/cole-hamels

The last 2 games are pretty much a microcosm of Bruce's career.

[Tom Servo]

Leake y u do dis

[Ironman92]

Anyone care to check Leake's ERA with Tucker catching? Lefties seem to be hitting about .619 off of Leake the last 5 or 6 starts

[Tracy Jones]

The Reds will definitely be a lesser pitching staff once Cueto is gone. Leake? Not so sure.

[Big Klu]

I'm not a big LeBron fan but you have to admit, the worst thing he's ever done was "The Decision." No scandals off the court. He does whine on the court when calls don't go his way but they all do that. Kids could do a lot worse than having him as someone to look up to.

Unless you go back to the St. Vincent-St. Mary days.

[Ironman92]

Leake y u do dis

I think he's sacrificially losing this game for us in a much less stressful way.

[Raisor]

Lord. John. Melburry.

#WestWing

[Ironman92]

Unless you go back to the St. Vincent-St. Mary days.

Missed over 80 days of school in 4th grade as his mom was in jail

[Tom Servo]

The last 2 games are pretty much a microcosm of Bruce's career.
Even more so I would say these two starts in the last week against the Phillies is a microcosm of Leake's career.

[Chip R]

Unless you go back to the St. Vincent-St. Mary days.

Well, I don't know about that and I don't think a lot of people do. Whatever he did could probably be excused as him being a kid. Most people did things when they were a kid that they regret.

[Big Klu]

Missed over 80 days of school in 4th grade as his mom was in jail

I will say that distancing himself from her may be the best thing he ever did for his career.

[Chip R]

Lord. John. Melburry.

#WestWing

Marbury.

[Raisor]

Marbury.

Jerald!

[Tracy Jones]

Even more so I would say these two starts in the last week against the Phillies is a microcosm of Leake's career.

Yeah that too.

Nice job getting out of that. Thank goodness for the pitcher coming to bat.

[Tom Servo]

Nicely done Mikey!

[Chip R]

Nicely done Mikey!

Walking a tightrope.

[Big Klu]

Ivan the Terrible!

http://a5.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fill,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,g_face,h_300,q_80,w_300/MTE1ODA0OTcxNjY5NjIwMjM3.jpg

[Ironman92]

C'mon the Jesus

[Larkin Fan]

Anyone still want Boesch?

[Ironman92]

Settle down guise...Hamels never loses to the Reds.

[Raisor]

Don't mess with DeJesus!

[Ironman92]

Anyone still want Boesch?

Yeah....that would keep Skip from 2nd and OF

[Red Raindog]

another at 'em ball from Jr - this one I like

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: DeJesus!

[Tadasimha]

Walking a tightrope.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6svFLIUKB-M

[Kc61]

Now go get Dominguez who the Stros just let go. Start to assemble a bench.

Sorry if any Reds fan is unfamiliar with the term. A bench.

[Tracy Jones]

"Should've started Boesch and his experienced OF glove"

[Ironman92]

D hay Seuss

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jerald!

Gerald. :O)

[Ironman92]

PR for Leake....and put some cruddy guy in to give up the lead....or he will within 3 batters

[757690]

Still fuming about the official scorer taking away Hamilton's steal of home. Here is the official definition of a fielder's choice:


FIELDER'S CHOICE is the act of a fielder who handles a fair grounder and, instead of throwing to first base to put out the batter-runner, throws to another base in an attempt to put out a preceding runner. The term is also used by scorers (a) to account for the advance of the batter-runner who takes one or more extra bases when the fielder who handles his safe hit attempts to put out a preceding runner; (b) to account for the advance of a runner (other than by stolen base or error) while a fielder is attempting to put out another runner; and (c) to account for the advance of a runner made solely because of the defensive team’s indifference (undefended steal).

The only way it's a fielder's choice, is if Ruiz had a chance to throw Hamilton out, but instead, chose to throw or first base.

I would love to hear the official scorer's explanation of his ruling.

[Ironman92]

Let's bat around this inning.

[Tracy Jones]

Now go get Dominguez who the Stros just let go. Start to assemble a bench.

Sorry if any Reds fan is unfamiliar with the term. A bench.

It's a better bench if Pena and Schumaker are actually bench players and not semi-regulars. Still not great, but better.

[Tom Servo]

http://operantconditioning.net/kviksal/files/2012/01/You-dont-mess-with-the-Jesus.jpg

[Big Klu]

Thom, his father was traded for Sandberg.

[Larkin Fan]

Yeah....that would keep Skip from 2nd and OF

I hear ya. I didn't mean not having Boesch on the team. My comment was in reference to tonight only.

[Banshee]

What a perfect title for this thread, touche!

[Tom Servo]

Thom, his father was traded for Sandberg.
That was several years before I was born and I knew this.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Now go get Dominguez who the Stros just let go. Start to assemble a bench.

Sorry if any Reds fan is unfamiliar with the term. A bench.

I've seen quite a bit of Dominguez. I'd pass on him in a heartbeat.

[Kc61]

It's a better bench if Pena and Schumaker are actually bench players and not semi-regulars. Still not great, but better.

Yes, true. But you've got several spots that can be upgraded. And of course there's the empty fifth spot.

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I've seen quite a bit of Dominguez. I'd pass on him in a heartbeat.

For the bench, I'd give him a try. The Reds certainly can find a spot for him.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That was several years before I was born and I knew this.

Good lord. Tom's just a baby. I had no idea.

[Larkin Fan]

That was several years before I was born and I knew this.

Thom is too distracted by his man love for Chapman and Lebron.

[Tracy Jones]

Yes, true. But you've got several spots that can be upgraded. And of course there's the empty fifth spot.

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For the bench, I'd give him a try. The Reds certainly can find a spot for him.

They definitely need an OFer. Boesch is useless.

[_Sir_Charles_]

For the bench, I'd give him a try. The Reds certainly can find a spot for him.

I think his glove is pretty pedestrian. His power is overhyped as he tended to use the short porch in MM quite a bit. He whiffs a TON and has poor contact and OB skills. IMO he's pretty much a near clone of Chris Dominguez.

But yes, he's still fairly young, if they want to throw him in the minors and see what happens, fine. But the ML bench...no thanks. He sucks right now.

[Tracy Jones]

Parra > Cingrani

[Ironman92]

Leave Parra in....he's got it tonight and the next guy is a guess if he will or not.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Good timing on pulling Leake IMO. Parra in. Leake looked gassed IMO.

[Big Klu]

That was several years before I was born and I knew this.

I actually was in attendance for Ryne Sandberg's first game as a Cub. Opening Day, 1982 at Riverfront. (It was my first major-league game.) Sandberg played 3B and batted 7th for the Cubs.

[Tom Servo]

Good lord. Tom's just a baby. I had no idea.
I just turned 1 when the Reds last won the World Series. A cruel fate.

[Kc61]

Parra looked good there, he does frequently, but he also has his bad stretches and has missed time with injuries.

I doubt he'll be a Red next year but right now he should get plenty of work.

[Tom Servo]

Parra following his 2013 form. Suck to begin the year, go on the DL, and come back and pitch great.

[Big Klu]

Thom is too distracted by his man love for Chapman and Lebron.

And Urban.

[Tracy Jones]

Parra looked good there, he does frequently, but he also has his bad stretches and has missed time with injuries.

I doubt he'll be a Red next year but right now he should get plenty of work.

He could actually be a pretty enticing trade piece for some team if he has a good month. LH relievers are always in demand.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I just turned 1 when the Reds last won the World Series. A cruel fate.

Now I'm really wondering how you're even aware of MST3K?!? :O)

[Kc61]

I think his glove is pretty pedestrian. His power is overhyped as he tended to use the short porch in MM quite a bit. He whiffs a TON and has poor contact and OB skills. IMO he's pretty much a near clone of Chris Dominguez.

But yes, he's still fairly young, if they want to throw him in the minors and see what happens, fine. But the ML bench...no thanks. He sucks right now.

If they select him on waivers, I think he's a roster player. I doubt they can option him out, my guess is he's out of options. Probably why he was DFA'd.

I'd let the Reds coaches work with Dominguez. Put him on the bench. See how it works out.

I'd take the risk that Dominguez will keep the Reds out of the NL Championship Series this season. I'm willing to break up the current powerhouse bench, LOL.

Guy probably has some upside still.

[Big Klu]

Good timing on pulling Leake IMO. Parra in. Leake looked gassed IMO.

Leake stayed in to hit in order to save a bench bat. They had already decided to pull the plug on him before he ever came to the plate. In fact, if Ivan hadn't homered, they probably would have PH for Leake.

[Tom Servo]

Now I'm really wondering how you're even aware of MST3K?!? :O)
I managed to catch the reruns in the early 00s right before they went off TV forever, and then my VHS (which I did just finally throw out) and DVD collection grew and grew.


If they select him on waivers, I think he's a roster player. I doubt they can option him out, my guess is he's out of options. Probably why he was DFA'd.
Dominguez actually does have options remaining.

[Tracy Jones]

The Hoov in the 8th

[Kc61]

He could actually be a pretty enticing trade piece for some team if he has a good month. LH relievers are always in demand.

Good point. His salary is fairly steep, but it's not a full season so that obviously reduces it. Let's hope Parra keeps his value up, excellent point.

[Big Klu]

Look for a defensive replacement for Ivan in LF when the Reds take the field in the 8th. (Either Boesch or Negrón.)

[Kc61]

I managed to catch the reruns in the early 00s right before they went off TV forever, and then my VHS (which I did just finally throw out) and DVD collection grew and grew.


Dominguez actually does have options remaining.

Even better. I know it's a longshot, but I remember when he was drafted, Dominguez had some tools. Sometimes it works out better with the second team.

[Slippin'Jimmy]

D hay Seuss

What wins championships

What's for horses

My favorite medical professional

[757690]

"Should've started Boesch and his experienced OF glove"

I'm an idiot and Price is a genius :)

[Banshee]

The Hoov in the 8th

Hoover still scares the crap out of me. Seems like every reds fan in the world wanted him tarred and feathered last yr., cept' Doug. Hope this "new" Hoover keeps it up, but I still think he's a powderkeg waiting to blow against good hitters. Hope I'm wrong.

[Big Klu]

If they select him on waivers, I think he's a roster player. I doubt they can option him out, my guess is he's out of options. Probably why he was DFA'd.

I'd let the Reds coaches work with Dominguez. Put him on the bench. See how it works out.

I'd take the risk that Dominguez will keep the Reds out of the NL Championship Series this season. I'm willing to break up the current powerhouse bench, LOL.

Guy probably has some upside still.

Dominguez was designated for assignment to clear a spot on the 40-man roster for Carlos Correa.

[Kc61]

Interesting that Price used Parra and Hoover, no Cingrani.

Wonder if they are working with Cingrani in side sessions right now. He needs the work, his stuff is too good for this performance, especially the walks.

[Tracy Jones]

Hoover still scares the crap out of me. Seems like every reds fan in the world wanted him tarred and feathered last yr., cept' Doug. Hope this "new" Hoover keeps it up, but I still think he's a powderkeg waiting to blow against good hitters. Hope I'm wrong.

Hoover has been good more often than not in his time here. That's why he was given the leash he got despite his struggles last year, and Jumbo wasn't.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm an idiot and Price is a genius :)

It's about time you've come around to this obvious conclusion we've all known all along. :O)

[Kc61]

Hoover still scares the crap out of me. Seems like every reds fan in the world wanted him tarred and feathered last yr., cept' Doug. Hope this "new" Hoover keeps it up, but I still think he's a powderkeg waiting to blow against good hitters. Hope I'm wrong.

I haven't had time to focus on Hoover's underlying numbers. But he's obviously made adjustments. From earlier this season, his ground ball rate was significantly improved, his walks still high but better.

Hoover has been a high K, high BB, fly ball pitcher, which is a bad combo at GABP.

We should look into his underlying numbers in depth, IMO his improvement is no accident.

[Big Klu]

Look for a defensive replacement for Ivan in LF when the Reds take the field in the 8th. (Either Boesch or Negrón.)

Guess I called that one wrong.

I still would have made a defensive change there.

[Tom Servo]

Nice work from our new 7th and 8th inning guys! :)

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm confused. Who's bullpen is Price using tonight?

1-2-3 for Parra
1-2-3 for Hoover

:clap:

[Tracy Jones]

Stupid Price.

Should've been using Parra and the Hoov all along!

[Kc61]

I've said it several times, but Cozart, Hoover, now Bruce deserve a lot of credit. Obviously hard work has brought about improvement. Great to see that with major leaguers who struggled last year.

Don't mean to exclude others, those three just came to mind.

[Banshee]

And down goes Holliday.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/08/matt-holliday-exits-game-with-apparent-knee-injury/

[Tracy Jones]

And down goes Holliday.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/08/matt-holliday-exits-game-with-apparent-knee-injury/

http://troll.me/images/lazy-college-student/i-see-thats-a-shame.jpg

[Kc61]

Cozart.

[Big Klu]

Zack Attack!

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: COZY!

[Banshee]

Zart' HR! Speaking of guys doing a 180 from last season..

[Tadasimha]

Oh yeah!

[Tracy Jones]

Zack Zack the HR hitting maniac

[Raisor]

Was that Zack or was that Barry Larkin? I couldn't tell the difference.

[Ironman92]

That hit be our new savior just guaranteed that Dusty will start Skip tomorrow.

[Raisor]

Don't mess with DeJesus

[_Sir_Charles_]

I've said it several times, but Cozart, Hoover, now Bruce deserve a lot of credit. Obviously hard work has brought about improvement. Great to see that with major leaguers who struggled last year.

Don't mean to exclude others, those three just came to mind.

I'd add Hamilton with his basestealing.

[Big Klu]

And down goes Holliday.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/08/matt-holliday-exits-game-with-apparent-knee-injury/

https://i.imgflip.com/ab01j.jpg

[Ironman92]

I'm not going to celebrate a player having a knee injury.

[Tracy Jones]

That hit be our new savior just guaranteed that Dusty will start Skip tomorrow.

http://dailydoseofbass.com/core/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20687-thumb.jpg

[Tracy Jones]

Useless

[757690]

And down goes Holliday.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/08/matt-holliday-exits-game-with-apparent-knee-injury/

Cue 15 game Card winning streak.

But seriously, the Cards are going to look very different next year. They can't count on Wainwright, Holliday or Molina to lead them anymore. They'll probably still win 100 games, but they'll have to do it with a pretty big retooling.

[Tracy Jones]

Dominguez may stink, but can he possibly be any worse than Boesch?

[Raisor]

Useless

Chip?

[Kc61]

I'd add Hamilton with his basestealing.

Absolutely, didn't happen by accident. Now Billy has to work on slapping the ball on the ground instead of fly balls like that last one.

[Raisor]

I'm not going to celebrate a player having a knee injury.


But he's a cardinal.

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I'm not going to celebrate a player having a knee injury.


But he's a cardinal.

[757690]

I'm not going to celebrate a player having a knee injury.

Then you can celebrate this, because officially, it's a quad injury ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dominguez may stink, but can he possibly be any worse than Boesch?

We say that all the time and are usually proven that YES, yes he can. The grass is not always greener.

That being said, I'd take a flier on him...but only a minor league flier.

[Tracy Jones]

We say that all the time and are usually proven that YES, yes he can. The grass is not always greener.

That being said, I'd take a flier on him...but only a minor league flier.

Boesch is bad. His OPS+ is 3.

Yes. 3.

[Big Klu]

Why use Negrón in LF after using Boesch as the PH? (Unless Brennan is unable to play. There was a report that he was having back problems.)

[Tracy Jones]

Throw strikes please

[Big Klu]

But he's a cardinal.

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But he's a cardinal.

I swore eternal enmity against Holliday back when he was still a Rockie.

[George Foster]

the technical term for that is high chesse

[_Sir_Charles_]

Boesch is bad. His OPS+ is 3.

Yes. 3.

No argument. And I'm not defending Boesch...but he's had almost no opportunities to play either. I think he's still under 45 ab's.

[George Foster]

I would not want to dig in to deep against 2015 Chapman

[Big Klu]

I get a funny feeling that Chapman doesn't like throwing to Barnhart for some reason.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chapman is all over the place. No way in the world any batter is going to be digging in here.

[George Foster]

I get a funny feeling that Chapman doesn't like throwing to Barnhart for some reason.
most MLB pitchers wouldn't

[Tracy Jones]

No argument. And I'm not defending Boesch...but he's had almost no opportunities to play either. I think he's still under 45 ab's.

That's true, but I wouldn't worry about someone, anyone, being worse if he were to be replaced.

[Tom Servo]

The hell, Chappy?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chappy get spiked there?

6-4 Reds btw after another wild pitch by Chapman.

And now BB #2.

Seriously, I'd get someone up. He can't locate the FB to save his life. Please prove me wrong and sit Utley down

[Banshee]

Just a bit outside.

[Tracy Jones]

Good lord.

That's why he's not, or ever will be, in anyone's starting rotation.

[Slippin'Jimmy]

Throw strikes please

I'd settle for not throwing pitches to the backstop.

[757690]

Chapman hasn't been that great since April. This is the longest I've seen him struggle.

[Raisor]

The hell, Chappy?

You're 12 years old, watch your language.

[George Foster]

Chapman might be with us for a while

[Roy Tucker]

Chapman does sweat.

[_Sir_Charles_]

You're 12 years old, watch your language.

I think he wants you to embarrass him.

[Raisor]

I'm indifferent to the runner advancing

[Tom Servo]

We're still good! :beerme:

[Banshee]

Piece of cake, reds win 6-4, Hamel will never beat the reds again. The curse is over!

[_Sir_Charles_]

K to end it.

And this one belongs to the Reds.

Nice games by Cozart, Parra, Hoover and Frazier. But the game ball goes to DeJesus. Congrats kid.

[Tracy Jones]

The curse of Cole is no more

[George Foster]

Cole might not beat us again.....

[Big Klu]

I think he wants you to embarrass him.

I think you mean, "humiliated."

[George Foster]

Serious question. Is Chapman's trade value going down?

[_Sir_Charles_]

I think you mean, "humiliated."

Damn. I knew it was wrong as soon as I typed it. LOL.

[Big Klu]

The "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game Award" goes to Ivan DeJesus, Jr.

[Raisor]

The "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game Award" goes to Ivan DeJesus, Jr.

He gets a watch!

[George Foster]

The "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game Award" goes to Ivan DeJesus, Jr.

When I was a kid and the reds played the cubs on WGN I did not understand why they did not pronounce his dad's name Ivan De-JESUS

[Raisor]

Chapman does sweat.

So does Chip. And it's a problem.

[Big Klu]

When I was a kid and the reds played the cubs on WGN I did not understand why they did not pronounce his dad's name Ivan De-JESUS

When I was 8 years old and got his baseball card in a pack after a Little League game, that's how I thought it was pronounced!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31E219-9xrL.jpg

[Roy Tucker]

He gets a watch!

And a $50 coupon to Springdale Cleaners.

[757690]

Just saw the video on MLB network of Hamilton stealing home. Absolutely no way it's a fielder's choice,

Billy doesn't start for home, until after Ruiz throws to first. That's a steal.

He needs to protest that call, and get an official steal of home.

[WVRedsFan]

Probably because Boesch is, how do I put this nicely...garbage.Yes he is, but Bryan F. Price chose him for his team and then forsakes him for a career minor leaguer...go figure.

Such is baseball. Like Negron last year, he will soon fit in and be do3wn on the interstate, but for tonight he is the hero. Good for him. Remember we were playing the not so Fighting Phillies.

[Raisor]

So we are grumpy when they win now too?

[cumberlandreds]

So would we call that home run by DeJesus, A Come to De Jesus Moment for the Phillies?

I thought that should be a steal of home for Hamilton too. I'm not sure why you would score that a fielders choice?

[ScotlandRed]

If we had won those 2 games we chucked against the Phillies and the 1 we chucked against San Diego, we would be .500. How depressing.