6/16/15 - Reds @ Tigres

[Tom Servo]

Brandon Phillips - 2B
Ivan De Jesus, Jr. - LF
Joey Votto - 1B
Todd Frazier - 3B
Jay Bruce - DH
Brayan Pena - C
Chris Dominguez - RF
Billy Hamilton - CF
Kristopher Negron - SS

Michael Lorenzen - RHP



De Jesus sighting!

[klw]

"Hey Kris Negron we have had BHam hitting 9th after all the pitchers because he has been so poor with the bat. We want you to hit after him today."

On the plus side is there are only good arguments for Lorenzen replacing 2 or 3 of the bats in the lineup tonight. Well maybe 4 but that's it.

[Rantly]

Is Dominguez a better fielder than Jay?

[NebraskaRed]

"Hey Kris Negron we have had BHam hitting 9th after all the pitchers because he has been so poor with the bat. We want you to hit after him today.

Maybe they just want Negron to stand still and take pitches while Hamilton steals 2nd and 3rd.

"You were just gonna strike out or hit a lazy fly ball anyway, let the kid steal bases while you watch"

[UPRedsFan]

Is Suarez tired already? Or is Price paranoid about more injuries happening so he's not going to play all his starters at the same time ever again?

[Rantly]

Is Suarez tired already? Or is Price paranoid about more injuries happening so he's not going to play all his starters at the same time ever again?

Gotta get Negi going

[villain612]

Maybe Price is an uber genius who uses Negron as an injury shield.

Whoever he senses is going down next.....Negron starts for them that day.

[texasdave]

I don't know if this is any other thread, but Moscot on the DL. Boesch to Louisville. Donovan Hand and Carlos Contreras up to Cincy.

[RedlegJake]

Is Dominguez a better fielder than Jay?

not even close

[Red Raindog]

I don't know if this is any other thread, but Moscot on the DL. Boesch to Louisville. Donovan Hand and Carlos Contreras up to Cincy.

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?

stolen from Jon Stewart

[Red Raindog]

Oh No -- a soft tossing lefty -- history is not kind here

[klw]

Reds down in order, Gose leads off with a double for Detroit

[Banshee]

Reds are snakebitten. Bloops, texas leaguers, injuries..even when they do something right, something horrible happens.

[Larkin Fan]

Disco sure looks an awful lot like Lorenzen.

[klw]

ball game

Miguel singles home Gose
1-0 Tigers

[_Sir_Charles_]

I don't know if this is any other thread, but Moscot on the DL. Boesch to Louisville. Donovan Hand and Carlos Contreras up to Cincy.

And Cozy to the 60 day.

[50YrRedsFan]

ball game

Miguel singles home Gose
1-0 Tigers

That Cabrera guy is pretty good at baseball.

[_Sir_Charles_]

That liner to Lorenzen might be a good thing. When a guy is playing poorly, a wake up call like that can turn it around mentally. Let's hope he does well from here on out. 1-0 Tiggers.

[Larkin Fan]

That Cabrera guy is pretty good at baseball.

"The AMAZING Miguel Cabrera!" -Thom Brenneman

[_Sir_Charles_]

Oh No -- a soft tossing lefty -- history is not kind here

I like Jay's odds tonight.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Reds go down in order thanks to the 4-6-3 dp by Pena. Jay had singled.

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"The AMAZING Miguel Cabrera!" -Thom Brenneman

He ain't wrong. He IS annoying though.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pena doesn't care for the strike zone and lets one go through to the ump. Ouch. 93 to the shoulder. (kidding about pena)

Lorenzen walked 1 in the 2nd but otherwise looked better.

[NebraskaRed]

with a few exceptions, this team is completely on auto-pilot when they come to the plate.

[RedFanT]

God, this is depressing. Other than my fandom, I really do not even know why I'm watching this game.

[Kc61]

with a few exceptions, this team is completely on auto-pilot when they come to the plate.

Auto-pilot assumes they are moving forward.

[Stray]

switching over to the soccer match that's about to start.

hope we can score a run or two tonight.

[50YrRedsFan]

switching over to the soccer match that's about to start.

hope we can score a run or two tonight.

That's a tall order.

[Kc61]

As a devoted Reds fan, I think the owner or GM needs to say something publicly about this situation. If they lose tonight, the Reds will be 15 games out in mid-June.

I'd like to see the Reds acknowledge this situation and assure the fans they are focused and trying to help matters.

Unless they are simply waiting for the inevitable 35 game winning streak.

[50YrRedsFan]

Unless they are simply waiting for the inevitable 35 game winning streak.[/QUOTE]

Right!

[50YrRedsFan]

I've been following baseball for 55 years, and never seen a foul tip caught like that. Votto couldn't believe it, either

[Red Raindog]

Did I just hear Thom say the White Sox have quite a lineup? And he meant it a good way - not laughing at the next to last in runs scored in all of baseball

[50YrRedsFan]

Did I just hear Thom say the White Sox have quite a lineup? And he meant it a good way - not laughing at the next to last in runs scored in all of baseball

comparing them to a AAA team.

[BluegrassRedleg]

As a devoted Reds fan, I think the owner or GM needs to say something publicly about this situation. If they lose tonight, the Reds will be 15 games out in mid-June.

I'd like to see the Reds acknowledge this situation and assure the fans they are focused and trying to help matters.

Unless they are simply waiting for the inevitable 35 game winning streak.

The whole operation is ridiculous. No plan. No commitment to truly competing.

[Rantly]

I've been following baseball for 55 years, and never seen a foul tip caught like that. Votto couldn't believe it, either

I didn't see it. How was it caught?

[Chuckie]

Who was the dude that said Frazier hits a lot of "GABP HRs"?

LMAO. Toddfather crushes another no-doubter.

[NebraskaRed]

Frazier's swing was a thing of beauty.

[Chuckie]

Jay Boy! Wow! Back-to-back.

2-1 Redlegs.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Hal E. Looya

[NebraskaRed]

Bruce's swing was a thing of beauty.

[Stray]

There's probably a plan, they're just not telling us. I mean, we know injuries have killed us for two years and the organization doesn't have the depth to stay competitive, the only real plan is to see what you can get for guys like Cueto, Chapman, Leake and maybe a guy like Pena. Or really, whoever can bring in a good haul.

But I do agree the Reds need to acknowledge it, and at the very least, attempt to sell it to the fans. Hard to stay interested watching a lineup with a bunch of AAAers.

[50YrRedsFan]

I didn't see it. How was it caught?
Foul tip hit off the catchers glove, and popped up in the air about 3 feet to the left of the catcher, who dived and caught it before it hit the ground.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Thom, of the Travel Channel.

[Tom Servo]

Oh my god, Thom's suburbs talk.

[50YrRedsFan]

I think Dominguez was hosed on that call.

[NebraskaRed]

Oh my god, Thom's suburbs talk.

Reminds me of Dad. Any place he stays, well by god, it's the best place ever.

Could be a Motel 6 in Topeka, but you wouldn't believe how comfortable those beds were.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Oh my god, Thom's suburbs talk.

He may as well have said, "You know, Detroit's not bad, except for the 'hood."

[Chuckie]

Oh my god, Thom's suburbs talk.

I know, right! How funny (read: dumb as hell) was that?

"I realize Detroit is run down and bankrupt and all, but there is this one suburb that rocks. Birmingham MI, everyone. It's a vacation destination."

[Chuckie]

DeJesus with the DERP. E-7. Little Leaguer makes that play.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Wow. Just... Wow.

9287

[Tom Servo]

Ugh. Awful defense, and not a good 0-2 pitch either.

[Chuckie]

If you were wondering how the Reds would find a way to invent to lose this game, there you go.

Wait, wait. There's still hope. Maybe.

[Banshee]

He surrounded that pop fly pretty well.

[Roy Tucker]

Blergh.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Detroit fans go crazy as Miggy comes to the plate with 2 outs and first base open. :laugh:

AWARENESS, people!

[Chuckie]

I find it UN-BEE-LEEEV-able that Thom didn't say DeJesus' error was UN-BEE-LEEEV-able. It's like Thom took it in stride and didn't overreact.

Thom might be on ecstasy tonight. Mollys? That's what the kids are calling it these days. OK.

[westofyou]

Oh my god, Thom's suburbs talk.

That's were I grew up

Btw Thom should know that that lady WS game in 1940 was on a Tuesday, hard day to get away from work

[Chuckie]

Aaaaaand we're tied. Lucky the Tigers aren't winning.

[Banshee]

Please dear lord let the review have him remain out.

[BluegrassRedleg]

My God, Pena, that's horrible.

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This team. Geezus...

[Tom Servo]

Lost in the play at the plate is what an awful way that is to give up two runs. I can't remember seeing a ball hit off a pitcher going that far in any direction.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Another LONG delay which indicates they can't really tell what happened. Will it be reversed like the one the other day where it took 5 minutes as well?

[Chuckie]

And of course this happens the same inning the Reds get back-to-back HRs. Even when something goes right for us this year, it gets urinated on.

Is it football season yet? I think I'm going to watch OSU-Bama for the 300th time.

[Roy Tucker]

Really hard to tell.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Props to the Detroit music guy for Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers' "I Need To Know" during the review. :)

[Chuckie]

Oh wow, he's actually out. LOL. He was safe! I'll take it though.

And yes, I overreacted. I don't care. This season has jaded me.

[Banshee]

Mercy call for the reds, could've said he was blocking the plate and it appeared that the tag was high/late, time to play the lotto Reds!

[Tom Servo]

Is it football season yet? I think I'm going to watch OSU-Bama for the 300th time.
Baseball rules, football drools.

[Chuckie]

Baseball rules, football drools.

Football > Baseball (but I love both).

[NebraskaRed]

When Byrd comes back, Dominguez is gone, I'm assuming?

[westofyou]

Thom must be playing Grandpa Simpson in a live performance or something because he's rambling along like Abe and just reliving his 18th birthday

[Chip R]

Thom must be playing Grandpa Simpson in a live performance or something because he's rambling along like Abe and just reliving his 18th birthday

I said almost the same thing last night in the game thread.

[Roy Tucker]

US women's soccer team up 1-zip at the half. Abby Wambach scores off a corner in the last minute of the half.

[NebraskaRed]

US women's soccer team up 1-zip at the half. Abby Wambach scores off a corner in the last minute of the half.

Has she ever been to Birmingham, MI?

[westofyou]

Tigers pitcher has Joe Torre's sideburns

http://www.saintstevensthingery.com/mybackpages/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/torrebbf.jpg

[westofyou]

Has she ever been to Birmingham, MI?

Only after visiting The Cranbrook Institute

[Larkin Fan]

According to Chris, BP and Miggy play the game at the same level...

[westofyou]

According to Chris, BP and Miggy play the game at the same level...

Field Level, reminds me of how Johnny Temple used to give Stan Musial wedgies back in the day

[Rantly]

US women's soccer team up 1-zip at the half. Abby Wambach scores off a corner in the last minute of the half.

He is pretty good at soccer

[Tom Servo]

So who at Fox Sports decided it was more important to tell me that the batter is 0-2 instead of the velocity on the pitch?

[Roy Tucker]

Has she ever been to Birmingham, MI?

David Spade, Paul Stookey, Tim Allen, and Alexi Lalas have.

I have not.

[Banshee]

Great outing by Lorenzen, now send him to the showers.

[westofyou]

David Spade, Paul Stookey, Tim Allen, and Alexi Lalas have.

I have not.

Lots of Tudors, and many GM & Ford executive sanctioned watering holes

[NebraskaRed]

Negron has made some great plays

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David Spade, Paul Stookey, Tim Allen, and Alexi Lalas have.

I have not.

I've heard it's nice there.

[Banshee]

Frazier HR #20! 3-2 redlegs!

[Tom Servo]

Nice effort from Lorenzen tonight, but I have to admit the BB to K ratio is starting to bother me.

[Rantly]

Another non-GABP HR!!!!

[Tom Servo]

Frazier! :jump:

He cannot be stopped.

[Banshee]

Worm turning for the reds, BH bloop rbi single, 4-2 redlegs.

[Tom Servo]

Joel Luckhaupt ‏@jluckhaupt 6m6 minutes ago
This is the 10th time a #Reds hitter hit 20 HR in the team's first 64 games, last done by Adam Dunn in 2006 & 2003.

[Tadasimha]

Heck a throw by McCann

[westofyou]

23 HOF at the 1971 AS game

And Pete

[Tony Cloninger]

Nice effort from Lorenzen tonight, but I have to admit the BB to K ratio is starting to bother me.

Since I am not able to watch the game.....is he that wild or are the hitters just laying off his stuff very well?

[Tadasimha]

Nice inning for Mattheus - 1-2-3

[NebraskaRed]

Nice inning for Mattheus.

But it seems like every other game, a reliever will have one good inning, then in the next inning they immediately walk the next 3 batters followed by a grand slam.

[Tony Cloninger]

Nice inning for Mattheus.

But it seems like every other game, a reliever will have one good inning, then in the next inning they immediately walk the next 3 batters followed by a grand slam.


The Reds have enough relievers to not have to use someone for 2. But I wish they would groom relievers to be able to throw 2 innings more often, thereby eliminating the need to ever think about carrying 13 freaking pitchers.

[Tadasimha]

Break it open, Joey

[faffy42]

BP always competing to win. He slowly went to second (easily was going to get there) to force a harder throw ..increasing risk of a bigger errant throw by the outfielder : ) I'm not sure if anyone notices how BP usually does little things like that.

[WVRedsFan]

I notice opposition managers not letting a reliever get bombed by removing them when they get in trouble and the Reds don't. I wonder why?

[westofyou]

All MLB players compete to win don't they?

I mean it's the effort they put into it that should be lauded or questioned, but they're all wanting to win.

[westofyou]

I notice opposition managers not letting a reliever get bombed by removing them when they get in trouble and the Reds don't. I wonder why?

Uncertain of what you going after is his problem

, Price though has a pitchers mentality to managing, doesn't seem to like one batter match ups

[Banshee]

Al Albuquerque sounds like one of the made up names on the old sci-fi show Alien Nation.

[Tadasimha]

BP always competing to win. He slowly went to second (easily was going to get there) to force a harder throw ..increasing risk of a bigger errant throw by the outfielder : ) I'm not sure if anyone notices how BP usually does little things like that.

I just figured his leg was bothering him

[_Sir_Charles_]

Darn. Well it took all the way to the 8th inning...but Bruce made an out. Like I said...I liked his odds against the soft tossing lefty. :O)

[NebraskaRed]

Shoulda made a left at Albuquerque

[westofyou]

Al Albuquerque sounds like one of the made up names on the old sci-fi show Alien Nation.

Mmmmm sour milk

[WVRedsFan]

Uncertain of what you going after, Price though has a pitchers mentality to managing, doesn't seem to like one batter match upsJust a rhetorical question. I remember a lot of teams doing this and it's pretty effective. I guess matchups are important,

[BCubb2003]

Al Albuquerque sounds like one of the made up names on the old sci-fi show Alien Nation.

He has a cousin named Cleve Cleveland.

[Tom Servo]

Since I am not able to watch the game.....is he that wild or are the hitters just laying off his stuff very well?
He only walked 3, one intentionally, but only struck out 1. He induced a lot of weak contact and the hits off of him were generally jam shots that found a hole. I'm just struck by how, at least so far, he can't seem to get a swing and miss with 2 strikes on a batter.

[westofyou]

Just a rhetorical question. I remember a lot of teams doing this and it's pretty effective. I guess matchups are important,

I notice it too, Price doesn't mix and match, it's frustratingly 1961 like

[Tom Servo]

Aoki is winning in the NL All-Star game because he was a Royal last year, isn't he?

[WVRedsFan]

I notice it too, Price doesn't mix and match, it's frustratingly 1961 likeIt didn't stop Hutch from changing pitchers a lot if memory serves and he was a pitcher

[westofyou]

Aoki is winning in the NL All-Star game because he was a Royal last year, isn't he?

Looks that way.

[klw]

He only walked 3, one intentionally, but only struck out 1. He induced a lot of weak contact and the hits off of him were generally jam shots that found a hole. I'm just struck by how, at least so far, he can't seem to get a swing and miss with 2 strikes on a batter.

2 thoughts: he has only been a full time pitcher for two years so hopefully as he continues to learn the craft he develops that strikeout pitch. 2nd given his lack of experience his ability to get guys out without an k pitch is impressive

[_Sir_Charles_]

Football > Baseball (but I love both).

Isn't this grounds for banishment? Or at least a solid punch to the head. :O)

[westofyou]

It didn't stop Hutch from changing pitchers a lot if memory serves and he was a pitcher

Hutch was a successful pitcher who went right to managing, wasn't a coach, didn't coddle, Price was and did

[Chip R]

It didn't stop Hutch from changing pitchers a lot if memory serves and he was a pitcher

Hutch had a better bullpen.

[WVRedsFan]

Hutch was a successful pitcher who went right to managing, wasn't a coach, didn't coddle, Price was and didGood point.

[Chip R]

All MLB players compete to win don't they?

I mean it's the effort they put into it that should be lauded or questioned, but they're all wanting to win.

Except for Hal Chase.

[Tom Servo]

Nice catch by Billy and a nice job by Hoover to challenge with a strike with a 2 run lead.

[Tadasimha]

Always good to see Billy track one down!

[westofyou]

Isn't this grounds for banishment? Or at least a solid punch to the head. :O)

It's really more like

Complaining > Football > Baseball

[NebraskaRed]

Jeff Francoeur is about to pitch in a 17-3 blowout.

[Chuckie]

I was never down on Hoover last year like some of you guys.

And that's called a lie.

[WVRedsFan]

Amazing to see JJ Hoover completely do a 180 from last year. I'd love to know the secret.

[_Sir_Charles_]

It's really more like

Displaying my medical expertise > Complaining > Football > Baseball

Slight improvement? :O)

[Mutaman]

Hutch had a better bullpen.

Brosnan and Henry. Very tough.

[Tom Servo]

Jeff Francoeur is about to pitch in a 17-3 blowout.
3 pitch strikeout of Nolan Reimold :lol:

[_Sir_Charles_]

Amazing to see JJ Hoover completely do a 180 from last year. I'd love to know the secret.

Hoover's secret is flipping the switch from suck to blow ('em away). /spaceballs

[westofyou]

Jeff Francoeur is about to pitch in a 17-3 blowout.

Cast needs to be forced to watch the Phillies last two weeks over and over until he cries for mercy.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Did Joba eat Al Alburquerque?

[Banshee]

Hoover's secret is flipping the switch from suck to blow ('em away). /spaceballs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSWdHY9Ny4

[WVRedsFan]

Did Joba eat Al Alburquerque?Green chilli for everyone.

[Tadasimha]

Did Joba eat Al Alburquerque?

Just Pismo Beach

[Tom Servo]

1-2-3 inning for Francouer, the first inning in which Baltimore didn't score all game.

[Banshee]

Lance McAlister ‏@LanceMcAlister 6m6 minutes ago
Hoover update: 25th straight appearance w/o allowing earned run...23.2 innings.
Last ER allowed April 21.
ER allowed in 2 of 30 app

Is that good?

[Chuckie]

We'll take that! 5-2 Reds.

[Tom Servo]

Jeez, you could see that coming. Terrible toss by Iglesias. 5-2 Redlegs!

[Banshee]

Worm spinning now for the reds at 100mph., 5-2 redlegs!

[_Sir_Charles_]

E6 and it's 5-2 Reds

[WVRedsFan]

Every team shows incompetence at some time.

[NebraskaRed]

Dominguez got a lucky double, and then a lucky run scored.

[Chip R]

Every team shows incompetence at some time.

Of course the Reds show it more than most.

[Banshee]

And just like that, the reds try our patience yet again.

[Tom Servo]

C'mon Billy, it's a 3 run lead with one out, just stay on the bag.

[WVRedsFan]

That's what I hate about the running game. Up 5-2, runner on second one out with a sure out at the plate and you get picked off ending what could have been a 4-run lead. Just silly. You gotta know when to hold em.

[Tom Servo]

Not long now before the "Negron needs to go" thread is drafted...

[Banshee]

Not long now before the "Negron needs to go" thread is drafted...

At least they're listening to someone. *tip of the hat*

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chappy in btw

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GAS

[_Sir_Charles_]

What the heck is in the air tonight?

O's 18, Phil's 3
Fish 11, Yanks 2
Nats 14, Rays 1

Just nuts.

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Punch out #2

[_Sir_Charles_]

103!

And this one belongs to the Reds! Good game boys.

[Banshee]

Reds win! 103 to seal the deal.

[Tom Servo]

Chappy be good.

We're good again! :beerme:

[Gallen5862]

"And This One Belongs To The Reds."

[Roy Tucker]

What the heck is in the air tonight?

O's 18, Phil's 3
Fish 11, Yanks 2
Nats 14, Rays 1

Just nuts.



Balls.

[WVRedsFan]

In this deep, dark season, you live for games like this. Just a little sunshine to give you joy, even though you know the next disappointment is just around the corner, maybe tomorrow. Lorenzen will be a star and more than adequate replacement for either Latos or Simon. Good game, boys!

[Tony Cloninger]

He only walked 3, one intentionally, but only struck out 1. He induced a lot of weak contact and the hits off of him were generally jam shots that found a hole. I'm just struck by how, at least so far, he can't seem to get a swing and miss with 2 strikes on a batter.

He does seem to have problems being ahead and has given up hits on 0-2 to some bad hitters in previous games.

[Tony Cloninger]

They won and nobody got hurt! Win-Win!

[villain612]

Reds win. Boesch gets sent down. And Cardinalgate.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/644/27751394.jpg

[Stray]

Watching the highlights..

The Phillips and Votto barehanded plays were nice. Especially that Phillips one even tho they didn't turn the DP.

Votto didn't really need to barehand his I'm sure, but hey I can't blame the guy for going for style points at the moment.

[Big Klu]

Just got home from Detroit. I was at last night's game. Had excellent seats in the 11th row right behind home plate near Reds dugout. (My seat was right behind the edge of the net. ;)) Very nice ballpark, and friendly fans!

The "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" for last night was Todd Frazier, who hit two home runs!



Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Jay Bruce - 192
11. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Joey Votto - 177
13. Wally Post - 172
14. Brandon Phillips - 171
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101