2015-16 NBA Season

[dubc47834]

That's not how logic works.

Yeah, you would know!

According to Bing, just so you know...

Logic originally meaning the word, or what is spoken, (but coming to mean thought or reason) is generally held to consist of the systematic study of the form of valid arguments. A valid argument is one where there is a specific relation of logical support between the assumptions of the argument and its conclusion.

[KoryMac5]

Question out of curiosity, does Blatt get a ring as a fired coach of a Championship team.

[Little Earl]

Great win for Cleveland. On a downward note, Cincinnati now has the longest streak of any city without a championship....26 years.

[cumberlandreds]

I don't watch the NBA much at all anymore. But I did watch most that game last night. It was everything you would want to see for a game 7 final. A game going down to the final seconds and the stars either performing or not down the stretch. LeBron's block was huge IMO. I haven't seen much said about that. The game was still tied at that point and you kind of got the feeling the next team to score would win. LeBron seemed to come out of nowhere to block that shot. GS pretty much died by the sword they brought, the three pointer. They couldn't buy one late in that game. I was impressed by Draymond Green as much as anyone. I never thought he would be that type of player in the pros. I thought he would a journeyman type player who had a nice career but not a big star.
LeBron can now be up there with the elites of the game if he wasn't before. A triple double in game 7 is about as good as you can get. I'm also glad for the Cleveand fans. Its been along time coming and they finally get to celebrate. Hopefully Cincinnati is the next long suffering city to get a championship.

[oregonred]

Great win for Cleveland. On a downward note, Cincinnati now has the longest streak of any city without a championship....26 years.

San Diego and Buffalo say hi. Depressing nonetheless but 2 sport cities have a bit harder math

[dubc47834]

Question out of curiosity, does Blatt get a ring as a fired coach of a Championship team.

I that's up to the team. I think it would be nice!

[dougdirt]

He may not be the greatest clutch scorer ever, but his legacy as an all-around brilliant player is safe now. Twitter needs to find something new to talk about.

Now? It's safe now?

That kind of puts into perspective just how insane this whole thing is. That just now he's got a legacy as an all-around brilliant player.

[westofyou]

Great win for Cleveland. On a downward note, Cincinnati now has the longest streak of any city without a championship....26 years.

San Diego?

[kaldaniels]

San Diego?

He meant only Midwestern cities that only carry both an MLB and NFL team. Sorry Buffalo.

[Tom Servo]

San Diego?
Milwaukee too, even if they are Packers fans.

[kaldaniels]

Not speaking to all them them but wowsers some Cincy fans like the pity to rain down on them.

[Little Earl]

I guess Cincinnati gets that award for cities with two or more major sports teams. They didn't mention that part when I heard it on the radio.

[Tom Servo]

Cincinnati native Dean Ambrose won the WWE Championship last night, surely that must count for something. :)

[IslandRed]

Now? It's safe now?

That kind of puts into perspective just how insane this whole thing is. That just now he's got a legacy as an all-around brilliant player.

Now that I re-read it, I used the wrong phrasing. I don't think his all-around game was in question, even by his detractors, so much as him being a "winner," with all the baggage and biases people attach to that word.

[Bourgeois Zee]

I think Love is as good as gone.

Yup.

And I suspect he'll do well as the central hub around which his future team plays.

He won the title. Now he can chase numbers.

[Bourgeois Zee]

I guess Cincinnati gets that award for cities with two or more major sports teams. They didn't mention that part when I heard it on the radio.

Again, San Diego? Chargers and Padres have won nothing.

Buffalo (Bills and Sabres) haven't either.

I think your source is wrong.

[Revering4Blue]

Again, San Diego? Chargers and Padres have won nothing.

Buffalo (Bills and Sabres) haven't either.

I think your source is wrong.

And both Buffalo and San Diego - coincidentally and unjustifiably - lost exactly the same NBA franchise.

[Cannon]

I'm not a basketball guy at all, but anyone who follows sports is pretty familiar with the whole LeBron narrative. It's pretty emotional not only to see what he's done for Cleveland with this win but when they put up the pure numbers, and considering who he did it against it's truly got to be an historic achievement over all sports. For all the fanfare that Jordan and Kobe get neither of them really dominated the entire court the way that James did.

It really pounds it home when you see that he had a triple double in game 7 of a series where they came back from 3-1 (no other team has ever done it before) against a team that just won a league record setting number of games, and LeBron became the first player in history to lead both teams in a championship series in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks.

Amazing.

[Little Earl]

I am sure the guy on the radio got it from usa today, which is also where I looked. I didn't notice the Editor’s note: Cities with no NBA, NHL, NFL or MLB titles were left off. Those include Charlotte, Buffalo, San Diego and Nashville.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/now-that-cleveland-has-won-a-championship-which-city-has-the-longest-title-drought

[goreds2]

Question out of curiosity, does Blatt get a ring as a fired coach of a Championship team.
I would think so. He coached them to a 30-11 start.

[Kingspoint]

I am sure the guy on the radio got it from usa today, which is also where I looked. I didn't notice the Editor’s note: Cities with no NBA, NHL, NFL or MLB titles were left off. Those include Charlotte, Buffalo, San Diego and Nashville.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/now-that-cleveland-has-won-a-championship-which-city-has-the-longest-title-drought

Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

[RichRed]

I don't follow the NBA that closely these days, so I tend to live in the past. Imagine my surprise when I found out this guy was the head coach of an NBA champion.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4uNAZm7c--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1310344745023321669.jpg

[RedsBaron]

Again, San Diego? Chargers and Padres have won nothing.

Buffalo (Bills and Sabres) haven't either.

I think your source is wrong.
The Chargers best claim is the AFL title in 1963 and the best claim for the Bills is the AFL titles in 1964 and 1965. In each year that was as far as the AFL champion could go, as there was no Super Bowl as yet. I don't think many if any fans believe the 1964 and 1965 Bills were better than the 1964 Browns or the 1965 Packers, the NFL champs, but there are a number of people who believe the 1963 high powered offense of the Chargers might have given the 1963 Bears fits.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don't follow the NBA that closely these days, so I tend to live in the past. Imagine my surprise when I found out this guy was the head coach of an NBA champion.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4uNAZm7c--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1310344745023321669.jpg

I am failing to see what your issue is with him based off this picture.

Is it the corn rows?

Ty Lue is actually a very sharp guy that knows the game very well.

[dougdirt]

I am failing to see what your issue is with him based off this picture.

Is it the corn rows?

Ty Lue is actually a very sharp guy that knows the game very well.

Where did he say there was an issue? He said he was surprised that Lue was the coach.

[Yachtzee]

I am failing to see what your issue is with him based off this picture.

Is it the corn rows?

Ty Lue is actually a very sharp guy that knows the game very well.

I think he's just surprised because it doesn't seem so long ago that Lue was still a player. He's pretty young for an NBA champion coach.

[Wonderful Monds]

I don't care what anyone else says: this series alone has really made me hungry to have the NBA in Cincinnati again. I know everyone (including many people who don't live here...) says it will never work, college basketball rules the city etc. and to that I say: BS.

Cincinnati is a rapidly growing city. We need a new event space/arena in this city *anyway*. I guarantee you, if there was a team in this city, especially after watching NE Ohio finally win a championship, I guarantee Cincinnati would get behind it. I guarantee it would work.

It'll never happen sadly. But I want it. Bad.

[RichRed]

I think he's just surprised because it doesn't seem so long ago that Lue was still a player. He's pretty young for an NBA champion coach.

Exactly. I still think of him as that guy who looks like he could still be playing for his high school team.

The silly corn rows are beside the point. :evil:

[Yachtzee]

I don't care what anyone else says: this series alone has really made me hungry to have the NBA in Cincinnati again. I know everyone (including many people who don't live here...) says it will never work, college basketball rules the city etc. and to that I say: BS.

Cincinnati is a rapidly growing city. We need a new event space/arena in this city *anyway*. I guarantee you, if there was a team in this city, especially after watching NE Ohio finally win a championship, I guarantee Cincinnati would get behind it. I guarantee it would work.

It'll never happen sadly. But I want it. Bad.

There is a hunger in Cincinnati for another professional sport, but right now that sport appears to be soccer, based on FC Cincinnati's attendance.

[Wonderful Monds]

There is a hunger in Cincinnati for another professional sport, but right now that sport appears to be soccer, based on FC Cincinnati's attendance.

True - and while soccer is booming (in many places) and in Cincinnati, I do wonder where the ceiling for that is.

FC Cincy isn't in the bigs (...yet).

[RedTeamGo!]

True - and while soccer is booming (in many places) and in Cincinnati, I do wonder where the ceiling for that is.

Hard to say. MLS is growing, but its the minor leagues compared to european soccer leagues like EPL, Bundesliga, and La Liga.

If soccer ever does get as popular or more popular than the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. it will not be the MLS, it will be the EPL, or maybe something like a Champions League that lasts all the time. A league with the best clubs in the world. That would have the kind of star power and quality to be the most popular professional sports league on earth.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I'm not sure the NBA is in any sort of expansion mode, so that means you could have to get relocation and Cincinnati would have a tough time getting a team before Seattle. Kansas City wants a team bad and even Las Vegas is looking like a viable professional sports town. I do think Cincinnati would support the team, but unless the NBA wants to add 4 teams it would be unlikely.

[Chip R]

I don't care what anyone else says: this series alone has really made me hungry to have the NBA in Cincinnati again. I know everyone (including many people who don't live here...) says it will never work, college basketball rules the city etc. and to that I say: BS.

Cincinnati is a rapidly growing city. We need a new event space/arena in this city *anyway*. I guarantee you, if there was a team in this city, especially after watching NE Ohio finally win a championship, I guarantee Cincinnati would get behind it. I guarantee it would work.

It'll never happen sadly. But I want it. Bad.

There's no way Cincinnati gets an NBA team. They would have a team in Europe before they had one here. As you said, it would take a new event space/arena and since two stadiums have been built in the last 15 years, I don't see voters agreeing to build another one. If a team here was good enough to win a championship the fans would be behind them. But if they were to get an expansion team, they would most likely have to suffer through years of futility before getting there. Look at the Reds. On a weeknight you can shoot a cannon in there and not hit anyone. And they have been around for over 100 years. A lot of the time the Bengals struggle to sell out. What chance would an expansion NBA team have?

[Wonderful Monds]

I'm thinking more of a team relocating to Cincinnati than expansion.

[Roy Tucker]

The NBA is a real boutique sport. Got to have a lot of high rollers and corporate base. NBA tickets are expensive.

Just don't see it happening.

[KronoRed]

Too many teams nearby and too many other cities that would be in line first for a new team or someone relocating.

[dubc47834]

So I called the Golden State Warriors front of this morning and asked to speak with Steph Curry. The lady said sure, dial 73-9....I said I did, there was no ring!!!!

Too soon???

[Yachtzee]

Hard to say. MLS is growing, but its the minor leagues compared to european soccer leagues like EPL, Bundesliga, and La Liga.

If soccer ever does get as popular or more popular than the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. it will not be the MLS, it will be the EPL, or maybe something like a Champions League that lasts all the time. A league with the best clubs in the world. That would have the kind of star power and quality to be the most popular professional sports league on earth.

The MLS already outdraws the NBA and NHL in average attendance, and may well surpass those leagues in TV ratings and money in the next 10 years as MLS get closer to 28-30 teams. More money means better players. I was listening to an interview with Jeff Berding, who runs FC Cincinnati and used to work for the Bengals. They asked him why he chose to get into the pro soccer business in Cincinnati and he talked about the marketing reports they get every year. According to him, 10-15 years ago, professional soccer and MLS weren't even a blip on the radar. Around 10 years ago, soccer started appearing at the bottom of the list and since then it has moved up the list every year. It's to the point now where, among 18-35 year olds, soccer is now the third most watched sport behind only NFL Football and College Football. Of course that number included EPL and international tournaments, but the numbers for MLS have also been increasing to a substantial degree. Why? Because a lot of those soccer viewers are getting a thirst to go to games and MLS provides the opportunity. Just as people will watch NFL and College Football in the fall, there are a lot of American soccer fans who watch both EPL and MLS.

It's unlikely that MLS will ever supplant NFL or College Football, or even MLB in the hearts and minds of Americans, but becoming the #3 professional sport (#4 if you count college football as pro) in the next 10 years behind NFL and MLB in the US is not that far fetched.

I would also note that MLS is pushing closer and closer to Ligue 1, Serie A, and Liga MX in average attendance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_attendance

[dabvu2498]

We're past 1000 posts. Still some discussion here that you may want to keep going, so I encourage you to start new threads or post in already existing threads. (There are several soccer threads and even an NBA in Cincinnati one from not too far back. And I know there's already an NBA offseason thread.)

Good season. Fun to follow along with the thoughts of some of the more knowledgeable than I, NBA fans of RZ.