6/28/2015 Reds @ Mets - Meet the Matz edition

[NebraskaRed]

Reds: Phillips 4, Votto 3, Fraizer 5, Bruce 9, Byrd 7, Pena 2, Suarez 6, Smith 1, Hamilton 8

Mets: Granderson 9, Tejada 6, Duda 3, Flores 4, Ceciliano 8, Mayberry 7, Monell 2, Campbell 5, Matz 1


C. Trent Rosecrans ‏@ctrent 3m3 minutes ago
Averages for #Mets lineup: .250, .254, .261, .240, .250, .184, .100, .172, .000

Let's see some good posts by all you geniuses and Einsteins!

[Tom Servo]

Pumped for more baseball!

j/k

http://i.imgur.com/hrlp1.jpg

[Edskin]

If you still hold out hope for the Reds this year, then this is a huge game. Desperately trying to claw back to .500 and four under looks a lot more manageable than 6 under. It's also makes for a solid 3-3 road trip against pretty good teams with two lesser lights coming to Cincy this week. If they maintain at 4 under I don't think it's unreasonable to shoot for ending the home stand 2 under.

[Chip R]

As bad as the first two games were I'm not looking forward to the third one.

[Tom Servo]

Matz is the first Long Island native to make his ML debut as a Met since 1981.

[Tom Servo]

Oh man, BP just misses a HR, only a single

That's a HR off the railing.

[Slippin'Jimmy]

Let's see some good posts by all you geniuses and Einsteins!


Um, OK.....if Einstein was so smart, why did he get the I before E rule wrong twice in his own name?

[NebraskaRed]

It's over the line, why isn't that a HR?

[Banshee]

HR BP, there's our run!

[Tom Servo]

DatDude! :jump:

[Reds Fanatic]

Happy Birthday BP!

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Brandon Phillips, who has passed Wally Post for 13th place on the Reds all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Jay Bruce - 194
11. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Joey Votto - 177
13. Brandon Phillips - 173
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Fil3232]

Has Votto lost his wallet again?

[Tony Cloninger]

Can the Reds please beat this team once? One of the most over hyped teams because New York and Harvey is already Tom freaking Seaver in ESPN's eyes.

[NebraskaRed]

I know he technically doesn't, but it seems like Byrd swings at every single pitch.

[NebraskaRed]

20-something pitches, but a better first inning overall for Smith than his first start.

[Tony Cloninger]

20-something pitches, but a better first inning overall for Smith than his first start.


Hopefully less nerves and a below average Mets lineup will help.

[Tom Servo]

Suarez has got the yips something fierce.

[Big Klu]

OK, this is starting to become a problem.

[Kc61]

Not sure how you handle the Suarez situation. Could send him down to AAA to just relax a little and get his defense back on track. Or Reds could just have him play through it.

That error is particularly upsetting because Josh Smith needs support. Young pitcher doesn't need to have errors behind him.

[Tom Servo]

Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 4m4 minutes ago
Two errors in about an hour for Suarez, who now has 6 for the season -- all since Tuesday. #reds

[NebraskaRed]

If you send him down, who plays SS?

[Tracy Jones]

Suarez has got the yips something fierce.

"Good insight"

[KronoRed]

Not sure how you handle the Suarez situation. Could send him down to AAA to just relax a little and get his defense back on track. Or Reds could just have him play through it.

That error is particularly upsetting because Josh Smith needs support. Young pitcher doesn't need to have errors behind him.

Play through it.


If you send him down, who plays SS?

Nobody.

[Tracy Jones]

Not sure how you handle the Suarez situation. Could send him down to AAA to just relax a little and get his defense back on track. Or Reds could just have him play through it.

That error is particularly upsetting because Josh Smith needs support. Young pitcher doesn't need to have errors behind him.

No, you have to let him play through it.

Besides there really being nobody else, you might as well find out now if he's a potential everyday SS sometime in the future.

[BCubb2003]

If you send him down, who plays SS?

Lorenzen?

[Big Klu]

Ivan DeJesus Jr. might see a little more time at SS. (Though he reminds me defensively of Jerry Hairston Jr.)

Or Negrón may find his way back up here just because of his glove.

[Tom Servo]

No, you have to let him play through it.

Besides there really being nobody else, you might as well find out now if he's a potential everyday SS sometime in the future.
...so we are on the same side.

You are a baffling guy.

[NebraskaRed]

Wonder if there's a Steve Miller Band concert after the game. Nobody has mentioned it.

[Tom Servo]

2 run double by the rookie pitcher in his first ever at-bat. Tremendous.

2-1 Mets.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Of course.

Smith, get out.

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GD, Smith. Why not request a tee from the dugout???

[NebraskaRed]

You know, I would never root for the Reds to lose, but if they keep hovering near .500, certain people will get it into their heads that they shouldn't trade certain people because there might still be a chance.

But I always hope they win.

[Tracy Jones]

...so we are on the same side.

You are a baffling guy.

At this point with this team, yes. You find out what he has.

Doesn't by any means make him any good though, which was the point you were trying to refute.

[Tom Servo]

At this point with this team, yes. You find out what he has.

Doesn't by any means make him any good though, which was the point you were trying to refute.
My real point was that it's been 15 games, he can hit, and he's never been this bad defensively before.

I didn't say "Oh, he's excellent, he'll be perfectly fine" because I don't know that. But I do know that one week worth of games isn't enough to make a real judgment.

[Big Klu]

Two more unearned runs. The Suarez error comes back to bite the Reds, but Smith cannot allow two-run doubles to his opposite number.

[JaxRed]

Matz resembles DiMaggio (facially, not hitting)

[Tracy Jones]

My real point was that it's been 15 games, he can hit, and he's never been this bad defensively before.

I didn't say "Oh, he's excellent, he'll be perfectly fine" because I don't know that. But I do know that one week worth of games isn't enough to make a real judgment.

He does seem to be decent at the plate, but you can't have that glove as it currently is at SS.

And "judgments" aren't set in stone for all eternity, never to be revisited. They fluctuate like stocks. But as of right now, all we have to make any judgments of him are what we've seen, and from what little we've seen, he's awful.

I don't know why that concept is so difficult to grasp. Of course it's a small sample. Of course he could get better. Of course he's young and so on and so on and so on.

[Kc61]

The Reds are just overmatched by the Mets' pitching. They are falling apart this series, playing horrible baseball.

If it was a home series they would be well advised to give out free pizza even without the strikeouts. Just as compensation to the fans.

This team needs significant change, the one thing they refuse to do. The only answer to this frustration is to tune out.

[Big Klu]

Matz resembles DiMaggio (facially, not hitting)

I don't know, so far he has a 3.000 OPS and twice as many RBI's as PA's.

[Tom Servo]

The Reds are just overmatched by the Mets' pitching. They are falling apart this series, playing horrible baseball.

Pretty much sums it up.

[villain612]

The Reds are just overmatched by the Mets' pitching. They are falling apart this series, playing horrible baseball.



Don't insult horrible baseball, man.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Byrd, Byrd, Byrd... Byrd's the wyrd.

[Tom Servo]

Nice catch Byrd man!

65 pitches for Smith thru 3 tho, not very nice at all.

[Big Klu]

Not a fan of the countrified version of "Carry On My Wayward Son" in the Lite Beer commercial.

[Kc61]

Don't insult horrible baseball, man.

Sorry, but I couldn't find a stronger word for a family board.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That.... was a bomb. :beerme:

#25 for Frazier

[Tom Servo]

Frazier! :jump:

tie game 2-2

[villain612]

This season sucks...but at least we have Todd Frazier.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce with his first walk in a little over week.

[RedsfaninMT]

Bruce with his first walk in a little over week.

He walked earlier in this game.

[Big Klu]

Bruce with his first walk in a little over week.

No, it was his first walk since the first inning.

[Tom Servo]

He walked earlier in this game.


No, it was his first walk since the first inning.


I ran out to pick up my laundry after the BP HR in the first. :redface:

[BluegrassRedleg]

No, it was his first walk since the first inning.

That's how long these games feel.

[villain612]

That's how long these games feel.

We need a sim inning button.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce with the assist from RF to end the 4th.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was a really, really bad decision. :p

[Mutaman]

The Reds are just overmatched by the Mets' pitching. They are falling apart this series, playing horrible baseball.

If it was a home series they would be well advised to give out free pizza even without the strikeouts. Just as compensation to the fans.

This team needs significant change, the one thing they refuse to do. The only answer to this frustration is to tune out.

Its one thing being over matched by Met's pitchers named Harvey and Syndergaard. Quite another to be over matched by guys named C Tores, A torres, Robles, verrett and parnell

[villain612]

Phillips' wrist is hurt.

Pops up to end the inning.

#redsbaseball2015

[Tom Servo]

Strikes, Mr. Smith.

[villain612]

Is Smith gonna walk the pitcher who's trying to bunt?

[Tom Servo]

Another hit for the rookie pitcher. Christ.

[CarolinaRedleg]

Another hit for the rookie pitcher. Christ.

Your 2015 Cincinnati Reds.

[Tom Servo]

Granderson double. 3-2 Mets, 2nd and 3rd and still no outs.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Eff up the throw AND make BP dive on wrist again.

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Votto's in dreamland today.

[Mutaman]

Reds came into NY to play Yankees last year and dropped 3 straight. Then quit and went into free fall.

[Tom Servo]

Smith wiggles out of more damage. 3-2 Mets after 5, Smith nearing 110 pitches.

[villain612]

Saved by Met offense futility.

This series is like a bad-off.

[Assembly Hall]

Smith wiggles out of more damage. 3-2 Mets after 5, Smith nearing 110 pitches.

Bring in Chapman, he is fresh!!!!!

[Mutaman]

110 pitches after 5 against one of the most inept offenses in the history of baseball.

[villain612]

This series has been the baseball equivalent of going to the dentist.

[Tom Servo]

Villarreal in, Bourgeois in. Bruce out because who the hell knows why.

[NebraskaRed]

This series has been the baseball equivalent of going to the dentist.

At least there's a benefit to going to the dentist. This is just pointless.

[villain612]

Bruce out of the game. Hurt?

[NebraskaRed]

Jason Unknown

[Tom Servo]

Pedro Villarreal ain't no good.

[NebraskaRed]

Can the Reds just go get on the plane and fly back to Cincinnati now?

[villain612]

Pedro Villarreal ain't no good.

He's Villarreal bad.

[Tom Servo]

third base hit for the pitcher, he's driven in 4.

This is embarrassing.

[villain612]

All the lolz.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Curious George ECSTATIC that a goofball pitcher is beating the Reds to death with his bat.

[villain612]

I would say "at least we're not the Phillies" but they at least won a World Series a few years ago.

[Tom Servo]

That's about right.

[NebraskaRed]

My god

[BluegrassRedleg]

Votto has to make that play. Talk about a guy in a total fog today.

[Tom Servo]

Votto has to make that play. Talk about a guy in a total fog today.
Bad throw, can't scoop all of them every time.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Bad throw, can't scoop all of them every time.

Wasn't a bad hop or anything. Gotta dig that out. He's just not there, mentally, right now. You can see it.

[villain612]

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[NebraskaRed]

Trade Cueto to the Astros now. Trade Chapman to whoever now.

Trade Byrd to someone who will take him.

Try not to trade Frazier.

[WVRedsFan]

At this point, who cares? Reds will probably finish fourth hobble ring around .500--four or five games under. Or worse if the Reds sell. Just two years of Hell.

[Tom Servo]

Wasn't a bad hop or anything. Gotta dig that out. He's just not there, mentally, right now. You can see it.
I agree with the sentiment, I just don't think that one was on Votto.

[NebraskaRed]

Has Jason Proletariat not hurt himself during spring training, we probably wouldn't have had Boesch up here.

It's just fun to think about that.

[villain612]

9356

[NebraskaRed]

Now's the chance. The Reds can sneak out of there during "God Bless America"

[50YrRedsFan]

Pretty lousy day of Reds baseball

[50YrRedsFan]

Phillips out.....probably sore wrist or thumb.

[50YrRedsFan]

Villareal in for a 2nd inning of abuse.

[villain612]

Reds were playing fairly well recently until Servo and Redeye decided to meet up the other day.

That might explain this series.

[Chip R]

Glad I decided not to watch this game.

[BluegrassRedleg]

George: "The Reds have had some great defense on this day... (then realizes about halfway through that what he's omitting) ... BUT... :laugh:

[villain612]

Can't turn two today.

[50YrRedsFan]

Can't turn two today.

and it turns into another Mets run. Will probably be a quiet plane ride home tonight.

[WVRedsFan]

and it turns into another Mets run. Will probably be a quiet plane ride home tonight.
and Bryan Price says (deleted) right :)

[wally post]

I was at this game (and of course the end of yesterday's game). On top of what's probably been mentioned, I just want to add that Joey has appeared lost all day...

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds now 16 games behind the Cardinals.....the farthest back this year.

[Big Klu]

Today's "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" is Mets LHP Steven Matz, who earned the win in his major-league debut and was 3-for-3 with a double and 4 RBI's.

[Tom Servo]

Let us never speak of this series again.

[Tony Cloninger]

Smith was clearly brought up here for no purpose other than to not try very hard at winning games. 110 pitches to this lineup is almost as bad as the opposing pitcher to a Reds lineup without Joey Votto in it.

I can see a pitcher burning you for one hit but 3? Head up your rear does not cover those sequences.

How many times a week does Phillips get hurt. Every week it's whack a mole with how he will get hurt and then return like Willis Reed (In Thom's eyes)

Finally.... at least once/twice a month you get a Votto is in a fog description of his play. Is this just hyperbole or does he mentally check out sometimes?

OK...all frustrations out. Onwards with any false hope of going anywhere. I mean they will take 4 or 5 out of the next 6 games to have Bob C continue to want to play this charade right?

[Tom Servo]

Too many fancy coffee shops and designer clothes stores in New York. :)

[wally post]

Hope I'm not repeating something here, but Eric Campbell is on base throughout the series with walks??? This guy is like 7 for 60 or something. Can't hit. So who scouts for the Reds?

[wally post]

Too many fancy coffee shops and designer clothes stores in New York. :)

I will assume this is tongue in cheek, but otherwise, come on - whatever...

[wally post]

duh.. tired after such a frustrating time at the park. I just saw your smiley face :D

[Tony Cloninger]

Too many fancy coffee shops and designer clothes stores in New York. :)

I know the best Pizza in NYC is at SBarros....per Micheal Scott.

[kaldaniels]

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[Red Raindog]

Reds now 16 games behind the Cardinals.....the farthest back this year.

are you implying this season is burnt toast or hazardous waste?

[Mutaman]

You're facing a team where the best hitter is hitting .259 in a huge ballpark. Common sense Strategy: Don't let Curtis Granderson beat you and make everyone else hit the ball. Result: 5 walks and one HB. And they pitched to Granderson every time he came up.

[Mutaman]

Not sure why professional athletes would come into NYC and play like they were in a hurray to catch their plane. But the boys did it for the second year in a row. I'm really down on these guys right now. A real dismal effort.