July 9, 2015 - Reds @ Marlins

[androosh]

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[androosh]

It's not letting me edit the main post for some reason. Here's the Marlin's lineup.

Marlins:

1) Gordon (2B)
2) Yelich (CF)
3) Hechavarria (SS)
4) Bour (1B)
5) Morse (LF)
6) Dietrich (3B)
7) Gillespie (RF)
8) Mathis (C)
9) Fernandez (P)

[texasdave]

What is the deal with Holmberg? I was under the impression that he was pitching tonight.

[Boston Red]

What is the deal with Holmberg? I was under the impression that he was pitching tonight.

If you're going to pitch him, may as well run him out there when Fernandez is pitching on the other side. Nothing to lose.

[texasdave]

Dupe post for no known reason.

[Ironman92]

Jose Hernandez eh? He's awesome, so we'll beat him.

[klw]

What is the deal with Holmberg? I was under the impression that he was pitching tonight.

Last night's rainout meant that Lorenzen could be pushed back to tonight and no need to use Holmberg.

[Ironman92]

Jose looks pretty good

[757690]

Tonight, we could see the fastest average fastballs from both starting pitchers in one game this season.

[Tom Servo]

I don't think Lorenzen got Dee Gordon out in his first start against Miami, and it continues tonight.

[757690]

Yelich reminds me of Bruce, only the league figured him out much sooner in his career.

[SpanishArmada]

Anybody see the glove Lorenzen is wearing tonight? It belongs to one Johnny Cueto. Saw his name along the thumb when they did a close up on him. Has he been wearing it all along?

[Tom Servo]

Adeiny Hechavarria hitting 3rd for the Marlins. What a world.

[Ironman92]

I like what Thom is saying about Gordon and man do I hope keeps on that pattern.

Waiting for Billy to be Vince Coleman offensively or Otis Nixon even.....but he still has a lot of Donell Nixon

[Tom Servo]

Just like Gordon terrorized Lorenzen the first time around, so did Bour. And he does it again with a looooong double off the wall.

1-0 Fish.

[Ironman92]

Insane...insane that wasn't a homerun

[Ironman92]

Ok....assuming healthy and playing Stanton

Stanton...then Bour...then Morse would have to be the 3 biggest back to back to back guys in a lineup ever.

[Ironman92]

Where is everyone?

(Assuming you are all occupied by voting for Cueto)

[Ironman92]

Thom now putting out there that the Nats purposely called off yesterday's game.

Just have to beat them in September now

[_Sir_Charles_]

Well, this isn't going well so far.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Lorenzen made that alot harder than it had to be.

[NebraskaRed]

Good thing they only got 1 run there. Good thing the bullpen is well rested.

It's positivity Thursday!

[757690]

That first inning was so Lorenzen.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1 down after Jay K's. I don't mind his strikeouts as long as they're not with him chasing bad pitches.

Byrd with a 1 out double.

[Ironman92]

Do I have to apologize for like Byrd?

[Ironman92]

1 down after Jay K's. I don't mind his strikeouts as long as they're not with him chasing bad pitches.

Byrd with a 1 out double.

Also who he is fanning to....this guy has nasty stuff

[_Sir_Charles_]

Fernandez made minced meat out of Suarez.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Barnhart chops out to short to end the inning. 1-0 fish

[NebraskaRed]

I'm starting to think that Jose Fernandez is pretty good at throwing a baseball.

[Tom Servo]

"Cole Hammels"

C'mon FS Ohio, you're better than that.

[Banshee]

Lorenzen's fastball has some arm side tail to it tonight. Moving quite a bit, tougher to control, but I believe it will serve him well in the future. Just can't throw 95 w/ no movement for long.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm starting to think that Jose Fernandez is pretty good at throwing a baseball.

He swings a pretty decent bat too. Have to go after him and treat him like a hitter.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Quickly 2 down. Mathis grounded out to 3rd. Fernandez grounds out to short.

And just when it looks like an easy inning...4 pitch walk to Dee Gordon. :(

[Tom Servo]

Quickly 2 down. Mathis grounded out to 3rd. Fernandez grounds out to short.
walk to Gordon on 4 pitches.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/jtg-ya-killin-me-son.png?w=250&h=167&crop=1

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gordon takes off...but Barnhart nails him.

challenge? nope

[Ironman92]

Looked safe and then the ump was arrogant with it

[Ironman92]

Can't believe no challenge?

[757690]

"Cole Hammels"

C'mon FS Ohio, you're better than that.

Not really.

[757690]

Gene needs to work on receiving the throw and placing the tag.

[Tom Servo]

Not really.
You seem pretty salty tonight, '75.

[_Sir_Charles_]

One down after Lorenzen K's.

Billy with an infield single chopper to 2nd. Might've lucked out as it looked like Morse should've had him with the foul ball.

[NebraskaRed]

Steven Matz is out for a number of weeks with a lat injury. He'll always have his memories of that game against the Reds

[Ironman92]

Anyone worried about Votto's defense should be a touch thankful after watching the guys on Nats/Fish

[BluegrassRedleg]

Good lord. Longest double I think I've ever seen.

[Ironman92]

One down after Lorenzen K's.

Billy with an infield single chopper to 2nd. Might've lucked out as it looked like Morse should've had him with the foul ball.

Morse no Bueno on defense

[_Sir_Charles_]

Brandon pops out to Gordon. 2 down for Votto with Billy still on first.

[Ironman92]

Hernandez definitely just made fun of Hamilton's hit

[_Sir_Charles_]

Billy seems to be having trouble getting a read on Fernandez.

[Ironman92]

Steven Matz is out for a number of weeks with a lat injury. He'll always have his memories of that game against the Reds

Remember 20 years ago when no one had any lats?

[BluegrassRedleg]

* Edited by Thom's Dumb Buddy *

[_Sir_Charles_]

Morse no Bueno on defense

A tad understated. :O)

[BluegrassRedleg]

Remember 20 years ago when no one had any lats?

Old buddy of mine used to say "Football was a lot more fun before they invented that ACL." :)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto K's looking. And Brantley gets WAAAAY too excited again.

[Tom Servo]

Early signs indicate the offense isn't going to do much tonight.

[Ironman92]

Good lord. Longest double I think I've ever seen.

Richie Sexson isn't impressed

[Ironman92]

A tad understated. :O)

It was a big tad

[hebroncougar]

Idiot Thom doesn't realize that field condition is a major concern with the ASG coming up. Doesn't matter how nice the night became, if the field took a deluge of rain, it would get messed up pretty bad by playing that series finale. Would require a lot of work before the ASG comes to town.


They'd have had time to fix the Nats field before the ASG came to town in 2018

[NebraskaRed]

Early signs indicate the offense isn't going to do much tonight.

Hard to expect much against Fernandez.

[Ironman92]

Old buddy of mine used to say "Football was a lot more fun before they invented that ACL." :)

And Pete Rose said he played 24 seasons and the only guy to ever have Tommy John surgery was Tommy John

[Ironman92]

Hard to expect much against Fernandez.

Cole and Scherzer make us believe

[Ironman92]

Man this ump is inconsistent

[Tom Servo]

Lorenzen looks like he has hit a wall.

[Ironman92]

He can leave them on base with the best of them

[NebraskaRed]

Lorenzen might be addicted to the rush he gets from working himself out of a jam. Soon he'll need to give up back to back walks just to feel normal.

[Rantly]

Votto K's looking. And Brantley gets WAAAAY too excited again.My main complaint with Brantley, I think it is probably the pitcher in him but I wish he would stop it.

[Tom Servo]

In Brantley's defense, Fernandez does look great today.

[BluegrassRedleg]

They'd have had time to fix the Nats field before the ASG came to town in 2018

/blush

You're still an idiot, though, Thom. :D

[BCubb2003]

Brantley doesn't have much control over his voice. When he wants to be dramatically negative, it sounds dramatically positive.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Just keep doing that, Billy. :thumbup:

[Kc61]

Three grounders to Suarez that inning. You'll note that he's taking an extra beat before throwing. Guessing the coaches believe he was trying to throw before he had possession of the ball.

Good to see these kinds of adjustments.

[_Sir_Charles_]

BB#4 for Lorenzen. :(

[BluegrassRedleg]

BB#4 for Lorenzen. :(

Once again, battling the pitch count. 54 now, 2 2/3 innings.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Mental error by Barnhart. Gordon stuck in between 2nd & 3rd. Tucker throws to 2nd. Dee sprints to 3rd.

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Once again, battling the pitch count. 54 now, 2 2/3 innings.

Are you watching the game on the DVR? Because you're about 2 innings behind. It's the bottom of the 5th.

[Tom Servo]

In 8 plate appearances against Lorenzen this season, Dee Gordon has 6 hits and a walk.

[TheBigLebowski]

Smart, Tuck. Throw behind one of the fastest men in baseball.

Stupid, stupid play.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Double play, but Gordon scores. 2-0 Fish.

[gilpdawg]

Man, I don't really care what his ERA is, but Lorenzen just isn't ready yet. Too many walks, not enough missed bats.

[TheBigLebowski]

Mental error by Barnhart. Gordon stuck in between 2nd & 3rd. Tucker throws to 2nd. Dee sprints to 3rd.

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Are you watching the game on the DVR? Because you're about 2 innings behind. It's the bottom of the 5th.

He traveled back in time to warn Tucker not to forget to NOT do that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Man, I don't really care what his ERA is, but Lorenzen just isn't ready yet. Too many walks, not enough missed bats.

To be fair...those walks miss the bats too.

[Boston Red]

Are you watching the game on the DVR? Because you're about 2 innings behind. It's the bottom of the 5th.

I was wondering after his comment about the long double came really, really late.

[NebraskaRed]

Man, I don't really care what his ERA is, but Lorenzen just isn't ready yet. Too many walks, not enough missed bats.

Since the Reds aren't going anywhere this season anyway, might as well leave him up and let him develop here rather than in Louisville.

[gilpdawg]

Since the Reds aren't going anywhere this season anyway, might as well leave him up and let him develop here rather than in Louisville.

I agree with that. That post may have seemed like I'm down on Mike. I'm not. He's got the stuff. He just needs to refine his secondary stuff and he'll be fine.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Votto K's again. 2 down for Todd. Brandon singled btw.

Frazier K's. #8 for Jose. 2-0 Marlins

[Ironman92]

Would love to see Jr take BP prior to the derby

[Boston Red]

Bluegrass, fast-forward all the way through the top half of the 6th. Nothing you want to see in between where you are now and live action.

[Tom Servo]

So this is what it feels like to have Johnny Cueto pitch against your team. :(

[_Sir_Charles_]

So this is what it feels like to have Johnny Cueto pitch against your team. :(

Nope. Haven't seen one shake or shimmy. :O)

[Boston Red]

So this is what it feels like to have Johnny Cueto pitch against your team. :(

I think Cueto is a poor man's Fernandez. And obviously that's not a knock on Cueto.

[Chip R]

Man, I don't really care what his ERA is, but Lorenzen just isn't ready yet. Too many walks, not enough missed bats.

He's definitely not a finished product but I'd much rather see him out there learning to be a major league pitcher than someone like Holmberg.

[_Sir_Charles_]

And Lorenzen finally has more K's than BB's. 5/4.

Badenhop warming. Michael is right at 100 pitches. Ground out to Phillips to end the inning. As frustrating as the walks are...he's kept us in the game. One of those bend-don't-break games.

[gilpdawg]

He's definitely not a finished product but I'd much rather see him out there learning to be a major league pitcher than someone like Holmberg.

Of course.

[Tom Servo]

Strong finish for Lorenzen (assuming Price doesn't try another brilliant teaching moment and send him out for the 7th).

[_Sir_Charles_]

Strong finish for Lorenzen (assuming Price doesn't try another brilliant teaching moment and send him out for the 7th).

Not a chance. Price isn't a complete idio.......LOL. Sorry, I tried to say it with a straight face. Fail. :O)

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Parra warming.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2nd hit for Byrd. Single up the middle. 1 on, 1 out.

1st pitch single by Eugenio! 1st & 2nd for Tucker.

Take him deep Tucker!!

[WVRedsFan]

Marlon is a true hitter.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Skip on deck for Lorenzen. Badenhop & Parra throwing.

[Ironman92]

Bring in Cishek!

[Big Klu]

Marlon is a true hitter.

Man, I remember three months ago we never saw comments like that on RedsZone!

[_Sir_Charles_]

6-4-3....I expect a challenge here.

Nope. DP to end the inning. :(

[Rantly]

That was ball 4 Tucker

[Roy Tucker]

Barnhart hits into a DP on ball four.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 for Badenhop. Nicely done.

Okay, 2 innings to win this thing. We've got the Fish Pen now.

[Big Klu]

Burke Goodenhop on the mound tonight.

[WVRedsFan]

I still say Skippy has pictures.

[_Sir_Charles_]

This should be illegal. It's just wrong. What's to stop someone from getting a long-jumper to pitch from about 10 feet.

[WrongVerb]

Ummm..Thom and Chris? In Japan, the surname comes first. Ichiro is his surname, not his given name.

Wow! Just...Wow!

[WrongVerb]

This should be illegal. It's just wrong. What's to stop someone from getting a long-jumper to pitch from about 10 feet.

The rule is he can't take a step with his pivot foot that's touching the rubber. So that would preclude a long jumper (or even someone taking strides like a cricket bowler)

[Big Klu]

Ummm..Thom and Chris? In Japan, the surname comes first. Ichiro is his surname, not his first name.

Wow! Just...Wow!

Suzuki is his surname (family name), and Ichiro is his given name. He uses the American order here in the USA on the rare occasions he actually uses his full name.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 go the Reds against the damned cheater.

[Roy Tucker]

Lots of bullpen power arms around the league these days.

[WrongVerb]

Suzuki is his surname (family name), and Ichiro is his given name. He uses the American order here in the USA on the rare occasions he actually uses his full name.

Apparently the ignorance on display was my own. And I'm not even drinking. Sigh.

[_Sir_Charles_]

The rule is he can't take a step with his pivot foot that's touching the rubber. So that would preclude a long jumper (or even someone taking strides like a cricket bowler)

How is that not a step with the foot from the rubber?!? I was always told that your foot must be touching the rubber when you release the ball. Maybe I was told wrong, but I can't see anyway that this is legal.

[Roy Tucker]

Ichiro is a mononym.

[Ironman92]

This should be illegal. It's just wrong. What's to stop someone from getting a long-jumper to pitch from about 10 feet.

Because math

[Big Klu]

Apparently the ignorance on display was my own. And I'm not even drinking. Sigh.

Don't sweat it. :)

FYI, "Ichiro" translates to "firstborn son".

[Tom Servo]

Ichiro is a mononym.
You're a mononym.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Little nifty glovework there by Votto. :thumbup:

[Big Klu]

Nice 3-6-3 DP!

I think Joey practices that play!

[WrongVerb]

How is that not a step with the foot from the rubber?!? I was always told that your foot must be touching the rubber when you release the ball. Maybe I was told wrong, but I can't see anyway that this is legal.

That's what I was told as well. In little league. By someone's dad. That information may or may not have been correct.

Here's a picture of Tom Seaver. Obviously he didn't leap off the rubber, but it definitely looks like by the time he releases the pitch his foot isn't touching.

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[Roy Tucker]

You're a mononym.

My Instagram name is roy_tucker. My kids have now started calling me Roy.

[WrongVerb]

Nice play by Votto

[WVRedsFan]

Just FYI, Byrd is now at .250, and after his horrible start is hitting .348.

[Tom Servo]

Nice DP, but remember that time Votto dropped the ball? Bust.

[Ironman92]

That Votto throw...you guys remember Andruw Jones making a ridiculous play in CF and he'd fire it in with pinpoint precision....from deep CF even

[WrongVerb]

Just FYI, Byrd is now at .250, and after his horrible start is hitting .348.

Would love to see him flipped for someone useful next season and beyond.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Because math

LOL. I was obviously exaggerating. But the point remains.

[Roy Tucker]

Votto really squeezed that down the line.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice DP, but remember that time Votto dropped the ball? Bust.

That play is what I was talking about earlier today. He's picked up stuff from Phillips with those "stylish" plays. I don't think he's naturally talented enough to be doing it as I think it'll end up hurting him more often than helping him. Pretty play though.

[Roy Tucker]

Frazier couldn't pull the trigger on a sweet inside fastball.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Okay Jay...tie this baby up with one sweet swing!

[Ironman92]

LOL. I was obviously exaggerating. But the point remains.

I think the MLB Network guys said some letters have been sent to a couple guys and teams abusing this rule a bit. They are allowing it as long as when you land you don't push from that back leg. Forgot who but the one guy does it so crazy

[Roy Tucker]

Not much turquoise left on the Marlins uniform.

[Kingspoint]

I'd pitch carefully to Bruce here, too.

He got one pitch to hit out of six.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I think the MLB Network guys said some letters have been sent to a couple guys and teams abusing this rule a bit. They are allowing it as long as when you land you don't push from that back leg. Forgot who but the one guy does it so crazy

It's this guy. Walden (StL) is the other one. But Capps is far worse.

I heard that report too...but I just don't see it because he IS pushing off.

[Roy Tucker]

Anxious Reds hitters.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Changeups just ate Jay alive tonight.

Pop out to end the game. :(

[Ironman92]

Swinging at ball 4 much?

[WVRedsFan]

Bah. Another shutout.

[Tom Servo]

jay y u do dis

[Kc61]

Reds on the road.

[WrongVerb]

Can the Reds just play the Nationals all year?

[Ironman92]

It's this guy. Walden (StL) is the other one. But Capps is far worse.

I heard that report too...but I just don't see it because he IS pushing off.

They are popping up around the league....the new Quesenberry/Garber

[Big Klu]

Tonight's "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" is Marlins RHP Jose Fernandez.

[Ironman92]

Bruce swings at a ball a foot off the plate and low with 3 balls and the previous two pitches the pitcher wasn't close and having trouble with the mound....

[Ironman92]

Tonight's "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" is Marlins RHP Jose Fernandez.

Gordon right behind

[Tony Cloninger]

Bruce swings at a ball a foot off the plate and low with 3 balls and the previous two pitches the pitcher wasn't close and having trouble with the mound....

Bruce needs to read his own scouting report on himself. A pitcher is rarely going to throw him a fastball with Runners on base. He has been better at laying off pitches but he still does this enough to frustrate you.