7/26/15 - Reds @ Rox - There is a game today

[Tom Servo]

One cannot grieve the loss of Johnny forever.

Game just underway.

[villain612]

Have they told Johnny he's been traded yet?

[Tom Servo]

Lorenzen battling command early on, already 2 walks.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Lorenzen with back to back 1 out walks.

Btw, Marty just said Olney is reporting that Chapman to the Yanks is in the works.

[villain612]

Lorenzen battling command early on, already 2 walks.

Bad juju from yesterday.

[Tom Servo]

Nice strikeout swinging of Arrenado. Lorenzen showing the Jekyll/Hyde off this inning.


And it continues. 2-0 Rox on a Paulsen triple.

[Raisor]

The Reds traded Cueto?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Lorenzen and Leake the best hitting SP teammates in MLB?

[Roy Tucker]

Stopped following Cueto on Instagram.

Time to move on with the new realities.

[Tom Servo]

13(!) pitch walk for Frazier

[Tom Servo]

BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE! :jump:

3 run shot. 4-2 Redlegs.

[Red Raindog]

Now Bruce just doubled his trade value

[Raisor]

I'm still taking the credit for Bruce.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Jay Bruce, who has tied Barry Larkin for ninth place on the Reds all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Jay Bruce - 198
11. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Joey Votto - 181
13. Brandon Phillips - 173
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101
27. Todd Frazier - 100

[BLEEDS]

If that ball didn't hour the foul pole, it was going to hit me in the face! ;)

PEACE

-BLEEDS

[BluegrassRedleg]

One more Bruce update from Big Klu?

[Raisor]

If that ball didn't hour the foul pole, it was going to hit me in the face! ;)

PEACE

-BLEEDS
Hopefully he will try harder next time.


;)

[Tom Servo]

CarGo single makes it a 3-2 game after a leadoff Coors special double for Blackmon.

[_Sir_Charles_]

One more Bruce update from Big Klu?

I sure hope not. Jay is one piece I just don't understand moving.

[Tom Servo]

5-4 Rockies take the lead on an Arrenado HR

Lorenzen in Coors is not a good match

[BluegrassRedleg]

Growing pains. Get ready for more of 'em.

[Tom Servo]

aaaand Paulsen homers

6-4 Rox

I'd call it a day for young Michael

[BluegrassRedleg]

Location. Wow.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wheels.....rolling down the hill because they've come off.

[757690]

Welcome to Coors Mr. Lorenzen

[_Sir_Charles_]

Double, ground out, single, homer, homer, single. Yeah, I'd yank him.

Add another triple. 7-4.

[Tom Servo]

7-4 Rockies


Take the poor kid out

[WVRedsFan]

Hey Bryan. You going to let them beat his brains out wile you save your bullpen for tomorrow?

[villain612]

Hey Bryan. You going to let them beat his brains out wile you save your bullpen for tomorrow?

Price is still maintaining that there's been no movement on a Cueto deal yet.

[757690]

The role of David Ross is being played by Tucker Barnhardt today

[malcontent]

Price apparently forgot he has 8 relievers.

[Tom Servo]

The rout is on. 10-4 Rockies.

[RedsManRick]

So, it turns out that few strikeouts, many walks, and many homers is a not a sustainable path to a low ERA. Whould've thunk it?

[Big Klu]

The role of David Ross is being played by Tucker Barnhardt today

For a guy with a reputation for being a defensive specialist, he drops a lot of balls.

[villain612]

The Cueto Curse begins.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Price apparently forgot he has 8 relievers.

He forgets a lot of things. So bad.

[Tom Servo]

omg this is insane

12-4 on a CarGo HR. Lost track of how many HRs in this inning.

[WVRedsFan]

It's going to be a long two months.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Pitch location??? ANYONE? Jesus.

[Big Klu]

omg this is insane

12-4 on a CarGo HR. Lost track of how many HRs in this inning.

I don't know, but it was 10 runs.

[BCubb2003]

Hey, the Reds are playing in Coors Field too so maybe there's a chance.

[757690]

Still within two grand slam range. Not giving up hope.

[Roy Tucker]

Not a good half inning.

I think I'll waych the Brickyard 400.

[WVRedsFan]

At 6-4, it should have been obvious a change needed made in the game. After its out of hand, he brings in not one of his better arms, but a kid since, I guess, we're playing St Louis. It's over. Try to win and don't worry about tomorrow.

[redsmetz]

So is this what the curse of Johnny Cueto is going to look like?

[WVRedsFan]

Not a good half inning.

I think I'll waych the Brickyard 400.more action and you can bet it won't be a laugher.

[KronoRed]

*checks box score for 1st time today*

Bwagwa.

[WVRedsFan]

Wonder if Bryan now thinks he needs to make a change again? Kid has .2 innings and has allowed 5 runs. Don't want to be embarrassed, do we? Or does it really matter?

[villain612]

May the curse be with you

9512

[Kc61]

Watched a little. Haven't followed the game thread. Sorry if this is repetitive.

This organization rushed Lorenzen, a very good prospect, and now won't sit him down.

I don't want him in the minors. I don't want him in active relief roles. Frankly, I don't want him pitching right now.

Let this kid learn by watching for the rest of this season. Use him once in awhile in a route to give some other guys rest.

I don't care who has to start in his place. Let one of the Kansas City lefties start, I don't care.

Eventually Lorenzen will get hurt from overthrowing. He's not ready to be a successful starter quite yet. He's thrown enough this season. Try him again in spring training. Sit. Him. Down.

[villain612]

Watched a little. Haven't followed the game thread. Sorry if this is repetitive.

This organization rushed Lorenzen, a very good prospect, and now won't sit him down.

I don't want him in the minors. I don't want him in active relief roles. Frankly, I don't want him pitching.

Let this kid learn by watching for the rest of this season. Use him once in awhile in a route to give some other guys rest.

I don't care who has to start in his place. Let one of the Kansas City lefties start, I don't care.

Eventually Lorenzen will get hurt from overthrowing. He's not ready. Try him again in spring training. Sit. Him. Down.

I can understand monitoring his innings...but how is he going to improve by not pitching?

It's not like the outcome of these games matter.

[Tracy Jones]

I can understand monitoring his innings...but how is he going to improve by not pitching?

It's not like the outcome of these games matter.

By uh...."watching"

With all the baseball I've watched in my life, I can safely call myself a master of the craft.

[Kc61]

I can understand monitoring his innings...but how is he going to improve by not pitching?

It's not like the outcome of these games matter.

Getting belted around the stadium doesn't help him. It's a long season, lot of innings, lot of games. Eventually he's going to get hurt overthrowing. I just don't think he's ready for this.

Work with him on the sidelines. Let him pitch in routes. As the last poster said, let him watch and absorb for awhile. Maybe get him back in there after a long rest, you're right, there's no need for some permanent exile.

I just don't like the trend here. He doesn't seem ready and I don't like watching a young talent be belted around like this.

[BluegrassRedleg]

TD and XP will get this thing even.

[Tracy Jones]

Getting belted around the stadium doesn't help him. It's a long season, lot of innings, lot of games. Eventually he's going to get hurt overthrowing. I just don't think he's ready for this.

Work with him on the sidelines. Let him pitch in routes. Maybe get him back in there after a long rest, you're right, there's no need for some permanent exile.

I just don't like the trend here. He doesn't seem ready and I don't like watching a young talent be belted around like this.

This happens to most young talents. You don't get better by watching. You get better by working at and honing your particular skills. Just like in any other trade.

[Tracy Jones]

And this game isn't over just yet.

[BCubb2003]

TD and XP will get this thing even.

They'll need a good halftime talk.

[Kc61]

This happens to most young talents. You don't get better by watching. You get better by working at and honing your particular skills. Just like in any other trade.

Except you can get injured while pitching. You can also lose your mental edge if you are getting blown out of games.

Lorenzen has a long way to go. I wouldn't keep throwing him to the wolves. Take a break, let him work with the pitching coach, throw some long meaningless relief innings. Then come back after a period of weeks.

[RedTeamGo!]

Lorenzen back to AAA?

[villain612]

Getting belted around the stadium doesn't help him. It's a long season, lot of innings, lot of games. Eventually he's going to get hurt overthrowing. I just don't think he's ready for this.

Work with him on the sidelines. Let him pitch in routes. As the last poster said, let him watch and absorb for awhile. Maybe get him back in there after a long rest, you're right, there's no need for some permanent exile.

I just don't like the trend here. He doesn't seem ready and I don't like watching a young talent be belted around like this.

It's one game. Lorenzen's last 6 starts:

5 IP 4 ER 5K 3BB
6 IP 2 ER 5K 4BB
4 IP 3ER 3K 2BB
5.2 IP 1 ER 4K 4BB
7 IP 2 ER 5K 1BB
6 IP 1 ER 1K 3BB

It's not like he's been getting lit up on the regular (or else I might agree). He's got some things he needs to work on and I'd rather him do it in a season that doesn't matter. Obviously be cognizant of his innings on the season but I see no reason to coddle him at this point.

[Roy Tucker]

Somehow, a white guy with a beard seems like he shouldn't be a fast runner.

[Tracy Jones]

Except you can get injured while pitching. You can also lose your mental edge if you are getting blown out of games.

Lorenzen has a long way to go. I wouldn't keep throwing him to the wolves. Take a break, let him work with the pitching coach, throw some long meaningless relief innings. Then come back after a period of weeks.

Nope. No bullpen stints. If they see him as a starter down the road, then only allow him to start games.

What I do agree with is the "break" thing. Maybe with all of these young pitchers on the roster and on the cusp, go to a 6-7 man rotation for the last 2 months after (if) Leake is dealt.

[Tracy Jones]

Ok. Now it's over.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Axelrod needs some legal weed.

[Big Klu]

Nothing like closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out, Bryan.

[Roy Tucker]

Can we run rule this game?

[WVRedsFan]

1.2 IP and 8 runs. Surely with all the relievers we have, this could have been avoided so these kids' psyches wouldn't be damaged now we get Adcock. 6.19 ERA, Axlerod now at19.64 and Lorenzen up to 4.19.

[Tracy Jones]

1.2 IP and 8 runs. Surely with all the relievers we have, this could have been avoided so these kids' psyches wouldn't be damaged now we get Adcock. 6.19 ERA, Axlerod now at19.64 and Lorenzen up to 4.19.

Should have used Chapman

[757690]

Concerning Lorenzen. I'm not drawing any conclusions from one start at Coor's Field.

[Gandalf the Red]

Can we run rule this game?

As Roger Sterling might say, "It's like Iwo Jima out there."

[757690]

1.2 IP and 8 runs. Surely with all the relievers we have, this could have been avoided so these kids' psyches wouldn't be damaged now we get Adcock. 6.19 ERA, Axlerod now at19.64 and Lorenzen up to 4.19.

Axelrod and Adcock aren't kids. Odds are slim they are with the Reds in spring training next year. I have no problem sacrificing them in today's game.

[BluegrassRedleg]

It just occurred to me that we've only completed 4.1 innings today.

[Big Klu]

I can understand monitoring his innings...but how is he going to improve by not pitching?

It's not like the outcome of these games matter.

The "think system", of course!

http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/348012/file-2280704219-jpg/blog-files/musicman-thinkmethod.jpg

[Tom Servo]

1.2 IP and 8 runs. Surely with all the relievers we have, this could have been avoided so these kids' psyches wouldn't be damaged now we get Adcock. 6.19 ERA, Axlerod now at19.64 and Lorenzen up to 4.19.
Axelrod is 30 and is Triple A filler who has been kicked around in the majors before, I don't think his psyche is a big deal.

[villain612]

1.2 IP and 8 runs. Surely with all the relievers we have, this could have been avoided so these kids' psyches wouldn't be damaged now we get Adcock. 6.19 ERA, Axlerod now at19.64 and Lorenzen up to 4.19.

With this bullpen, there are people complaining that the Cueto deal may only bring back 3 good bullpen arms.

[villain612]

What's the over/under for Colorado today?

25?

[Raisor]

Sit Lorenzen for the rest of the year? Really?

Worried about Axelrod? Really?

[ukredleg]

Seriously, George. Most of the viewers have zoned out now, nobody's paying attention. I'm not listening but I can still make out this cheery voice chirping away. I'm not sure but I think I'd prefer Thom's tone of disgust tonight.

[Big Klu]

Seriously, George. Most of the viewers have zoned out now, nobody's paying attention. I'm not listening but I can still make out this cheery voice chirping away. I'm not sure but I think I'd prefer Thom's tone of disgust tonight.

I used to think so, but no. George is much preferred over THom.

[Tom Servo]

Reds Media Relations ‏@RedsPR 21m21 minutes ago
Reds have 2 pitchers with 8 runs allowed in the same game for the first time since 6/28/61/g1 at Cubs (Bob Purkey 4ip, Jay Hook 4ip). #Elias

http://i15.tinypic.com/6uq1rat.gif

[Raisor]

I guess we can talk about Mila Kunis today

[Raisor]

Bruce a triple shy of the cycle

[WVRedsFan]

The "think system", of course!

http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/348012/file-2280704219-jpg/blog-files/musicman-thinkmethod.jpg

Trouble. Right here in River City.

[WVRedsFan]

Axelrod and Adcock aren't kids. Odds are slim they are with the Reds in spring training next year. I have no problem sacrificing them in today's game.

Played hookie and went to dinner. I meat Lorenzen mostly. I just think letting him get bombed is not a good idea. As for the two A guys, they shouldn't be here anyway, but they are. And to be honest I wasn't paying much attention anyway. Iow's, I was talking out my behind. Mea Culpa.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Crowd of 46K+ there today for this Titanic struggle.

[757690]

Just three grand slams away from the lead. #theresachance

[WVRedsFan]

Chris talking about Pena. I'd keep him. That's all. Not impressed with Tucker at all.

[Raisor]

Played hookie and went to dinner. I meat Lorenzen mostly. I just think letting him get bombed is not a good idea. As for the two A guys, they shouldn't be here anyway, but they are. And to be honest I wasn't paying much attention anyway. Iow's, I was talking out my behind. Mea Culpa.

You meat Lorenzen??? Like sausage? You ate one of the starters????

#cannibal

[BluegrassRedleg]

Suarez can hit a little. Growing on me by the day.

- - - Updated - - -

14 knocks... trail by 9 runs. :p

[WVRedsFan]

You meat Lorenzen??? Like sausage? You ate one of the starters????

#cannibal

:). Maybe I should have. I went to Applebee's. Hardly qualifies as dinner but the beer is cheap.

[Raisor]

:). Maybe I should have. I went to Applebee's. Hardly qualifies as dinner but the beer is cheap.

You might be history's greatest monster

[Big Klu]

Well, the Reds have a plane to catch, and they don't play Colorado again this season, so I'm not giving any of the Rockies an award today.

So today's "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" is Jay Bruce, who was 3-for-5 with a three-run homer and a run-scoring double, and also moved into a tie with Barry Larkin for ninth place on the Reds all-time home run list with 198.

[Ironman92]

Nail biter

Hopefully CarGo can warm up

[Tom Servo]

God bless the Reds fans who stuck this one out.

[redsmetz]

Reds Media Relations ‏@RedsPR 21m21 minutes ago
Reds have 2 pitchers with 8 runs allowed in the same game for the first time since 6/28/61/g1 at Cubs (Bob Purkey 4ip, Jay Hook 4ip). #Elias

http://i15.tinypic.com/6uq1rat.gif

I'd like to predict the same season result Purkey and Hood had in '61 and a trip to the Series for the club. [haven't checked, that was the one season Hood was great, right?]

[Big Klu]

God bless the Reds fans who stuck this one out.



I just noticed my post count, so I'm gonna party like it's 19,999! :cool:

http://www.the80sman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/prince_1999_maxi_mix_1982_the80sman-e1356819473905.jpg

[cumberlandreds]

I am afraid we are going to see more games like this the rest of the season. When a team starts its fire sale the players left usually throw in the towel on the rest of the season. We will see what happens but the rest of the season could be a disaster.

[BLEEDS]

I am afraid we are going to see more games like this the rest of the season. When a team starts its fire sale the players left usually throw in the towel on the rest of the season. We will see what happens but the rest of the season could be a disaster.

I think we will continue to have more games like this the rest of the season because our pitching staff is now officially in the FULL ON SUCK category, as we now officially have nobody not named Leake that I think we can count on to pitch past the 5th inning on a regular basis - let alone get a quality start - so our woeful bullpen will be on display more than it already has.
And, that guy named Leake, may be traded by the end of this week as well.

Our offense was always capable of keeping us in the few games where our pitching staff gives up 5 runs or less, but those times will be few and far between from now until the end of the year.

PEACE

-BLEEDS

[cumberlandreds]

For a guy with a reputation for being a defensive specialist, he drops a lot of balls.

He's beginning to look more like David Ross everyday. Ross dropped more balls at home plate than any catcher I have ever seen.

[miamiredskin]

I am afraid we are going to see more games like this the rest of the season. When a team starts its fire sale the players left usually throw in the towel on the rest of the season. We will see what happens but the rest of the season could be a disaster.

They threw in the towel last July even without the fire sale.

[cumberlandreds]

They threw in the towel last July even without the fire sale.

I agree. That shows how much influence our current manager has with the team.

Well, we will see what happens this year. They have 66 games left. My bet is that they will win only about 20 of those games.

[Raisor]

I agree. That shows how much influence our current manager has with the team.

Well, we will see what happens this year. They have 66 games left. My bet is that they will win only about 20 of those games.


Good. Better draft pick.