Tuesday 7.28.15 Reds @ Cardinals

[klw]

Leake is the Reds starter, as of 11:28 am. We will have to see if that is still the case come 8:00 PM


Mike Leake in July: 3-1, 1.61 ERA, .485 opp OPS.

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Edit: We've got a lineup!
#Reds lineup:
Bourgeois 7,
Phillips 4,
Votto 3,
Frazier 5,
Bruce 9,
Suarez 6,
Barnhart 2,
Leake RHP,
Hamilton 8

Cardinals:

Wong 4
Carpenter 5
Holliday 7
Peralta 6
Molina 2
Reynolds 3
Piscotty 9
Bourjos 8
Garcia 1


No Byrd! Start endless speculation now!

[Ironman92]

I don't want him to leave...but know he's going to be traded......I prefer him to be traded before tonight's start. He's due a bad bad start and the Cards are the best team.

[RedTeamGo!]

Starting Leake tonight vs the Cardinals before a trade is a recipe for disaster.

[Ironman92]

I'll predict 3 2/3 10 hits, 2 BB 6 ER....83 pitches.

[Tom Servo]

Bourgeois 7
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Frazier 5
Bruce 9
Suarez 6
Barnhart 2
Leake RHP
Hamilton 8

[villain612]

I hear there's a game tonight.

[WrongVerb]

I hear there's a game tonight.

That's the *ahem* rumor

[Ironman92]

Frazier impatient and swinging at slumping Bruce stuff....Votto still locked in even after insane bunt attempt.

[villain612]

Votto stranded on base. For the 1,987,412th time in his career.

[Ironman92]

I doubt Leake makes it out of the first inning

[Ironman92]

Votto stranded on base. For the 1,987,412th time in his career.

Yeah only 8 career runs scored seems low for a player of his caliber

['69]

Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Bruce's improvement start when he went from the 5th spot to cleanup? I know his overall numbers are night and day better 4th in the order.

[Tom Servo]

Nice K of Carpenter by Leake.

[757690]

FSO looks oversaturated color wise on my TV. It's not that way on any other channel. Anyone else having similar issues?

['69]

I doubt Leake makes it out of the first inning

:thumbdown:

Lol

['69]

FSO looks oversaturated color wise on my TV. It's not that way on any other channel. Anyone else having similar issues?

No sir.

Wait, the actual broadcast, yes. Commercials, no.

[Kilgore_Trout]

Leake looks like a guy who knows he's auditioning for several playoff-caliber teams. He's hungry.

Good start.

[villain612]

FSO looks oversaturated color wise on my TV. It's not that way on any other channel. Anyone else having similar issues?

The Thom effect.

[Ironman92]

FSO looks oversaturated color wise on my TV. It's not that way on any other channel. Anyone else having similar issues?

I said this yesterday and they made an LSD comment

[BluegrassRedleg]

FSO is definitely a tad off with its color balance. The red for both teams is like the planet where Obiwan and Anakin duked it out at the end of Episode III.

[WrongVerb]

I'm watching the MLB.TV stream of the FSO broadcast and it loks fine.

['69]

The turf looks like they spiked the Scott's fertilizer with uranium.

[Ironman92]

I doubt Leake gets out of the 2nd inning unscathed

[BluegrassRedleg]

The turf looks like they spiked the Scott's fertilizer with uranium.

It's the Cards, so that may be accurate.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'll predict 3 2/3 10 hits, 2 BB 6 ER....83 pitches.

I'll predict 8 innings of 4 hit 1 run ball.

[Ironman92]

I'll predict 8 innings of 4 hit 1 run ball.

No way...he'll never see the 6th and probably not the 5th

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 go the Cards.

Apparently today is Marty's B-day. And it seems weird...but his new wife has the SAME birthday. What are the odds on THAT?

[miamiredskin]

I like having Billy in CF. Shame this is his only year to start in the Majors.

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1-2-3 go the Cards.

Apparently today is Marty's B-day. And it seems weird...but his new wife has the SAME birthday. What are the odds on THAT?


364.25-1

[_Sir_Charles_]

No way...he'll never see the 6th and probably not the 5th

Thus far, 2 innings at 22 pitches. We'll see.

[Ironman92]

Leake isn't going to get thru the 3rd without any runs scored

[Tom Servo]

Chris Capuano lit up in only 0.2 innings for the Yankees tonight, could motivate them to pursue Leake.

[_Sir_Charles_]

34 pitches thru 3 now. 1 bb and 1 k. Looking solid.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Leake isn't going to get thru the 3rd without any runs scored

Going for the reverse psychology or really think Mike is due for a clunker?

[BCubb2003]

If Billy Hamilton could hit those choppy infield bouncers that Leake gets the Cards out on, he'd be amazing.

[TheBigLebowski]

Garcia has a puncher's chance of no-hitting these guys.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Garcia has a puncher's chance of no-hitting these guys.

With the way Votto, Bruce and Suarez are hitting...I doubt it.

And there's Votto. :O)

[TheBigLebowski]

I meant Leake.

[Big Klu]

1-2-3 go the Cards.

Apparently today is Marty's B-day. And it seems weird...but his new wife has the SAME birthday. What are the odds on THAT?

Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones also share the same birthday (25 years apart).

So maybe the odds go up when the man is substantially older than the woman. ;)

[Red Raindog]

I'll predict 8 innings of 4 hit 1 run ball.

and a loss?

[50YrRedsFan]

Starting Leake tonight vs the Cardinals before a trade is a recipe for disaster.

Isn't that typical Reds anyway?

Maybe I should say Price instead of Reds.

[villain612]

Votto tying Pete Rose and stuff.

[WrongVerb]

Joey on base for the 2nd time tonight. That's 15 straight games getting on base at least twice. I think that ties the ML record.

[Tom Servo]

Robert Stephenson down in Louisville.

7 innings and 89 pitches - 3 hits, 1 walk, 0 runs, 9 strikeouts.

http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5308800+_261ad078cfc2bae25a453360bc8cf3d5.gif

[_Sir_Charles_]

Joey on base for the 2nd time tonight. That's 15 straight games getting on base at least twice. I think that ties the ML record.

No. Just the Reds record. I can't find the MLB record for it.

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Robert Stephenson down in Louisville.

7 innings and 89 pitches - 3 hits, 1 walk, 0 runs, 9 strikeouts.

http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5308800+_261ad078cfc2bae25a453360bc8cf3d5.gif

I approve of this post. VERY much so. Nice.

[WrongVerb]

Reds record. My bad. And how much younger than him is Marty's wife?

[_Sir_Charles_]

If Stephenson can finally take that step forward it would be SOOOOOO huge for this team.

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Reds record. My bad. And how much younger than him is Marty's wife?

30 years. 73 and 43

[WrongVerb]

Holmberg to start Thursday?

9526

[villain612]

Robert Stephenson down in Louisville.

7 innings and 89 pitches - 3 hits, 1 walk, 0 runs, 9 strikeouts.

http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5308800+_261ad078cfc2bae25a453360bc8cf3d5.gif

"Bust." - Josh Bresser

[Ironman92]

No chance Leake gets through the 4th without 1 or so runs scored

[Ironman92]

Votto tying Pete Rose and stuff.

Never would've bet on that

[50YrRedsFan]

Robert Stephenson down in Louisville.

7 innings and 89 pitches - 3 hits, 1 walk, 0 runs, 9 strikeouts.

http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5308800+_261ad078cfc2bae25a453360bc8cf3d5.gif

That's great For him....We get to see Holmberg on Thursday.:thumbdown:

[WrongVerb]

If Stephenson can finally take that step forward it would be SOOOOOO huge for this team.

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30 years. 73 and 43

:beerme:

[_Sir_Charles_]

That's great For him....We get to see Holmberg on Thursday.:thumbdown:

I, personally, don't want the current Reds' needs to change their plans for Stephenson. I don't want to see them rush him before they honestly believe him to be ready. Just sayin'. Remember Homer?

[villain612]

30 years. 73 and 43

Try to sleep tonight after that visual.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 go the Cards. Mikey looking awfully good.

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Try to sleep tonight after that visual.

Well, I visualize that as two twin sized beds in different rooms...so I'm good.

[50YrRedsFan]

I, personally, don't want the current Reds' needs to change their plans for Stephenson. I don't want to see them rush him before they honestly believe him to be ready. Just sayin'. Remember Homer?

You're right there. I just think Holmberg has no chance, ever. Use anyone else.

[Tom Servo]

Marty isn't a day over 93.

[_Sir_Charles_]

LOL. On the Busch stadium video board....Happy 107th birthday Marty B. :O) Well played Brantley.

[50YrRedsFan]

This game moving quickly.

[BCubb2003]

Really, folks, Marty loooves talking about baseball.

[Tom Servo]

Strikeout #10 for RobSteve to finish the 8th at 105 pitches of shutout ball.

[_Sir_Charles_]

These two guys are CRUISING.

44 pitches for Leake (4 ip)
52 for Garcia. (5 ip)

[757690]

The Birthday Couple

9527

[50YrRedsFan]

Byrd & Pena packing their bags instead of playing?

[Tom Servo]

Byrd & Pena packing their bags instead of playing?
Seems like everyone besides Votto has 'packed it in' tonight.

[villain612]

Strikeout #10 for RobSteve to finish the 8th at 105 pitches of shutout ball.

Lets go ahead and trade him for more prospects.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Byrd & Pena packing their bags instead of playing?

If that was true, I'm sure the Reds beat reporters would be all over it.

:p:mooner::D

[WrongVerb]

Strikeout #10 for RobSteve to finish the 8th at 105 pitches of shutout ball.

105 pitches? That's nothing...Price would have sent him back out for the ninth. You know, to give him confidence.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Seems like everyone besides Votto has 'packed it in' tonight.

I think Garcia's had a LITTLE to do with it. Both these guys are dealin'.

[Ironman92]

Leake has done well so far but no way he gets through the 5th without multiple hits and a run or two

[villain612]

Byrd & Pena packing their bags instead of playing?

Maybe they just need a rest from all the bowls the team just packed in Colorado.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Several hard hit balls off of Leake...but at defenders. Molina with another...at Phillips. 1 down.

[50YrRedsFan]

Garcia's arm held together with duct tape and baling wire, and the Reds can't do anything with him.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2 out single by Piscotty. He and Joey...single & bb. Only baserunners.

[Tom Servo]

Well I already hate Piscotty.

[50YrRedsFan]

No-No gone.

[Tom Servo]

http://i.imgur.com/XQW6Ose.png

http://99gifs.com/-img/50cc5f43afa96f2a2400354c.gif?w=400&h=225

[Red Raindog]

The Birthday Couple

9527

the old wife younger than the kids game

[Ironman92]

Kelch loves him a hitting streak....2 or 3 games in a row and it's definitely going to get a mention

[757690]

Man, Leake lost his no hitter. Now his trade value will plummet, they won't get anything for him now! This start has been a total disaster.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ground out to 3rd by Bourjos. Leake still rollin'. 60 pitches, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 bb, 2 k.

[Gandalf the Red]

the old wife younger than the kids game

Gracious.

[757690]

the old wife younger than the kids game

Forgot about that. That's Thom's "Mom"

[BCubb2003]

I predict that be the seventh inning, Leake will be swallowed up by the New Madrid Fault.

[WrongVerb]

73/2 = 36+7 = 43.

She's right on that cusp of it being creepy.

23 and 53? Now that's creepy.

[BCubb2003]

I predict that by the seventh inning, Leake will be swallowed up by the New Madrid Fault.

[Ironman92]

Yankees have scored 11 runs in the 2nd inning...so far. No home runs

[_Sir_Charles_]

Leake singles to right to lead off the 6th

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yankees have scored 11 runs in the 2nd inning...so far. No home runs

Chris Capuano's start doesn't seem that bad anymore.

Good bunt by Billy (nearly beat it out) to move Leake to 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

I'm kind of over the whole "Wow, Billy was ALMOST safe" thing.

[757690]

Kelch loves him a hitting streak....2 or 3 games in a row and it's definitely going to get a mention

Cards had a radio announcer, Red Rush, back in the eighties, who would mention things like "Lonnie Smith has hit in 4 of his last 7 games."

[Mutaman]

Mikey's given up 2 runs in his last 3 starts. Where's Labowski?

[Ironman92]

I'd bet $20 that Phillips pays Chris Welsh some coin to speak highly of every chance.

Mark Reynolds missing a pop up (somewhat help from 1st base ump) and it turns into Phillips being a great bowler.

[Gandalf the Red]

Mikey's given up 2 runs in his last 3 starts. Where's Labowski?

Abiding. Somewhere.

[Ironman92]

Chris Capuano's start doesn't seem that bad anymore.

Good bunt by Billy (nearly beat it out) to move Leake to 2nd.

I think every starter had a hit by the 2nd inning except 1 player

[WrongVerb]

Chris Capuano's start doesn't seem that bad anymore.

Good bunt by Billy (nearly beat it out) to move Leake to 2nd.

Is that Wandy Rodriguez mopping up for Texas?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Phillps works the walk and brings up Joey. 1st & 2nd, 2 down.

[WrongVerb]

Great AB for BP.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Abiding. Somewhere.

That is a SOLID post. :thumbup:

:jump: VOTTO!!! 3-0 Reds!

[Tom Servo]

Votto! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs

[Banshee]

Vottomatic RED HOT! 3 run HR, 3-0 good guys!

[klw]

The Birthday Couple

9527

Those teeth are so white he looks like Ross in the episode where he bleached his teeth so much they glowed in the dark.

[Red Raindog]

There's this player that hotter than hot ----- name of Votto

[BCubb2003]

Phillps works the walk and brings up Joey. 1st & 2nd, 2 down.

Irony.

[Mutaman]

Cards had a radio announcer, Red Rush, back in the eighties, who would mention things like "Lonnie Smith has hit in 4 of his last 7 games."

I think Red Rush also announced the Loyola games. Seem to recall him when they won the NCAA way back when. A real homer but an entertaining homer.

[Gandalf the Red]

Votto crosses home plate, points to the radio booth and says "Happy bleepin' birthday, Marty!"

[WrongVerb]

JOEYYYYY!!!!!!!! :beerme::):thumbup:

[Ironman92]

Votto is impressive....that pitch was bad but he just isn't missing anything that ain't a bunt.

[klw]

Votto! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs

An elite player would have hit a granny.

[WrongVerb]

These players aren't paid to walk!

[Ironman92]

Frazier with a seeing eye double

[Ironman92]

Those teeth are so white he looks like Ross in the episode where he bleached his teeth so much they glowed in the dark.

I like that episode

[Tom Servo]

Votto now batting .309/.427/.534

[_Sir_Charles_]

An elite player would have hit a granny.

Still only 1 triple. Slacker.

[Mutaman]

Same guy:

Wesley "Red" Rush II (July 2, 1927 - January 11, 2009) was an American sportscaster.

A native of Long Beach, California, Rush attended the University of Southern California where he developed his interest in broadcasting. Rush did play-by-play for several Major League Baseball teams, including the Kansas City A's (1965), Chicago White Sox (1967–70), Oakland A's (1971, 1979–80), and St. Louis Cardinals (1984). Through the 1960s Rush was the voice of the Loyola University Ramblers men's college basketball team, and made the famous call of their 1963 NCAA National Championship.

Wiki

[Ironman92]

Those teeth are so white he looks like Ross in the episode where he bleached his teeth so much they glowed in the dark.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/28/cd19b065c3fc725bc3008ed3b8b9be24.jpg

[Mutaman]

The 1962–63 Loyola Ramblers men's basketball team represented Loyola University Chicago. The head coach was George Ireland. The Ramblers were the 1963 NCAA Tournament Champions, defeating top-ranked and two-time defending champion Cincinnati Bearcats in a 60–58 overtime contest. The team was notable in that it broke the so-called "gentlemen's agreement" amongst coaches in which no more than two black players would be on the floor at one time (and in some road games, black players would have to rotate so that only one of them was playing at any given moment): the Ramblers would regularly have three or four black starters, paving the way for the 1965-66 Texas Western Miners men's basketball team who would finally put the "agreement" to rest and have an all-black starting five.[1]

Wiki

[Ironman92]

Leake has been excellent but he is known to give these leads back immediately and he was also on the bases most of the inning and that typically causes him to leave the ball up and we know what happens when he does that. I look for Leake to get hit pretty hard this inning and definitely a HR allowed

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dan Johnson ph'ing for Garcia.
1 out single to left by Wong.

Anybody surprised they pulled Garcia? Or is he still on a pitch count?

Carpenter grounds to Phillips. 2 down, Wong to 2nd.
Holliday pops out to Jay.

Leake with 6 shut out innings. 2 hits, 1 bb, 2 k's. 72 pitches. Yep, that'll work.

[WrongVerb]

Votto now batting .309/.427/.534

#notelite

[Ironman92]

Rangers were winning by 5 after 1 but are losing by 10 (only 3 outs later) in the 3rd and have had 2 pitchers allow 7+ ER each

[BluegrassRedleg]

Garcia's outing looking a lot like The Demon's Head from last night. One bad pitch.

[WrongVerb]

The 1962–63 Loyola Ramblers men's basketball team represented Loyola University Chicago. The head coach was George Ireland. The Ramblers were the 1963 NCAA Tournament Champions, defeating top-ranked and two-time defending champion Cincinnati Bearcats in a 60–58 overtime contest. The team was notable in that it broke the so-called "gentlemen's agreement" amongst coaches in which no more than two black players would be on the floor at one time (and in some road games, black players would have to rotate so that only one of them was playing at any given moment): the Ramblers would regularly have three or four black starters, paving the way for the 1965-66 Texas Western Miners men's basketball team who would finally put the "agreement" to rest and have an all-black starting five.[1]

Wiki

Not to turn this into the religion and politics board, but that seems like so much extra work just to be racist.

[Elam]

Posted in another thread but it deserves a repost

Votto since the Break (including tonight):
.550/.667/.925 for a 1.592 OPS

[Chip R]

Byrd & Pena packing their bags instead of playing?

We'll never know unless we see Lorenzen warming up.

[Gandalf the Red]

Rangers were winning by 5 after 1 but are losing by 10 (only 3 outs later) in the 3rd and have had 2 pitchers allow 7+ ER each

Maybe we could offer them a special deal on a Holmberg.

[WrongVerb]

Rangers were winning by 5 after 1 but are losing by 10 (only 3 outs later) in the 3rd and have had 2 pitchers allow 7+ ER each

Yep, that was Wandy. Wonder if Jose Canseco is available to pitch tonight.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Carlos Villanueva in

[BluegrassRedleg]

Rangers were winning by 5 after 1 but are losing by 10 (only 3 outs later) in the 3rd and have had 2 pitchers allow 7+ ER each

Sounds familiar.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Suarez with a leadoff 2 bagger. 9 game hitting streak for Eugenio.

[WrongVerb]

Suarez with a 9 game hitting streak. Too bad he had a few errors weeks and weeks ago or he might turn out to be a good player.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Tucker 6 for last 13 with 5 bb's.

But not today. GIDP

[757690]

For anyone who doesn't believe that the Cardinals made a deal with the devil, I present the fact that Carlos Villanuava has an ERA of 1.77.

[Ironman92]

The Yankees are going to make Tim Kirkjian talk real high and squeaky

[Tom Servo]

lol who yelled the f word? Barnhart?

[WrongVerb]

Ummmm..that probably was NOT Joey

[Chip R]

The Yankees are going to make Tim Kirkjian talk real high and squeaky

I think nature beat them to it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Mike gave it a ride...but Piscotty runs it down. 3-0 Reds for the 7th inning stretch.

[Ironman92]

lol who yelled the f word? Barnhart?

Yep

[TheBigLebowski]

Leake has definitely upped his value tonight.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Leake has definitely upped his value tonight.

I still have the delusion in the back of my head that the Reds will extend him. :(

[Ironman92]

Leake has been real good in his final start for the Reds but things always even out and the Cardinals definitely get him for a run or so this inning....may not get out of the inning

[_Sir_Charles_]

Great running grab by Jay. 2 down. :thumbup:

Double by Reynolds to left.

[Raisor]

The Yankees are going to make Tim Kirkjian talk real high and squeaky

I love Timmy

[BluegrassRedleg]

Posted in another thread but it deserves a repost

Votto since the Break (including tonight):
.550/.667/.925 for a 1.592 OPS

torrid
[tawr-id, tor-]
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
adjective
1.
subject to parching or burning heat, especially of the sun, as a geographical area:
the torrid sands of the Sahara.
2.
oppressively hot, parching, or burning, as climate, weather, or air.
3.
ardent; passionate:
a torrid love story.

[Raisor]

I still have the delusion in the back of my head that the Reds will extend him. :(

You might want to talk to someone

[_Sir_Charles_]

Make that 7 innings of doughnuts for Leake. 3 hits.

Clearly next inning is gonna suck because I predicted 8 innings of 4 hit 1 run ball. So a solo shot by Grichuk next inning is bound to happen unfortunately.

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You might want to talk to someone

That same voice in the back of my head? Or a different one?

[WrongVerb]

I still have the delusion in the back of my head that the Reds will extend him. :(

No reason they can't trade him now and then go after him in the offseason. In fact I think that's been speculated in national media.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Billy jogs halfway to first and then does his requisite 10 pushups before slumping back to the dugout.

Actually I think he got screwed. Looked like ball 4 on that called 2nd strike.

[WrongVerb]

Whoever we trade Leake to, can we make them take BHam as well? So tired of seeing him waste his talent with no sign of it getting better.

[Tom Servo]

Actually I think he got screwed. Looked like ball 4 on that called 2nd strike.
Yeah Gameday's zone had it outside.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 go the Reds.

[WrongVerb]

BP swinging away on a 3-0 count and fouls off ball four?

[_Sir_Charles_]

BP swinging away on a 3-0 count and fouls off ball four?

9 game hitting streak on the line. That was his last chance to extend it.

[RedlegJake]

Leake has been real good in his final start for the Reds but things always even out and the Cardinals definitely get him for a run or so this inning....may not get out of the inning

Your crystal ball is cracked....at least an inning off

[Ironman92]

Leake has been wonderful for 7 but going to have a good PH and then 4th time thru and Wong and Carpenter will get theirs. Doubt we have a lead when this inning is over.

[Big Klu]

Votto! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs

My phone went dead, so I couldn't update the list until now.



Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Jay Bruce - 198
11. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Joey Votto - 182
13. Brandon Phillips - 173
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101
27. Todd Frazier - 100

[Banshee]

Nice play by Suarez, seems to be getting it together.

[Tom Servo]

Really nice play from Suarez

[RedlegJake]

Good play by Suarez to nip fleet Pete

[_Sir_Charles_]

Big Klu! Damn glad to meet ya!

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Heyward doubles to right.

(of course I look away and miss Suarez's play. damn)

[_Sir_Charles_]

*whew* Deep drive by Wong....Billy runs it down.

[Banshee]

Nice baserunning Heyward, lol.

[Ironman92]

Here it comes....be tied in a few batters. I loathe the Cardinals and Leake won't have the luck to win it.

[fondfoat]

Leake one batter to many??

[Ironman92]

2 strikes...Leake always give up the runs this way

[WVRedsFan]

Please not Hoover, Bryan.

[RedlegJake]

Carpenter strikes out to disappoint the naysayers

[_Sir_Charles_]

K to end the 8th.

Do you send Leake out for the 9th or showcase Chapman too?

[Tom Servo]

Great game Leake :clap:

[WrongVerb]

Filthy breaking pitch to strike out the last batter of the inning. Man-o-man was Leake dealing tonight.

[RedlegJake]

4 straight starts Leake has been incredible - he isn't hurting his value any

[fondfoat]

Great game Mike....Another guy I will miss :)

[WVRedsFan]

Fantastic game by Leake. Can't understand why other clubs don't have much interest in him.

[Chip R]

Nice play by Suarez, seems to be getting it together.


Really nice play from Suarez


Good play by Suarez to nip fleet Pete

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2016 left fielder.

[Tom Servo]

That Votto

is so hot


right now

[RedlegJake]

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2016 left fielder.

naw - they'll sit him on the bench and start someone like Boesch in left until Winker is ready.

[Banshee]

Not an elite player any longer..

[_Sir_Charles_]

Are you kidding me? Double for Votto. 3 for 3 with a walk. Seriously....CLONE THAT MAN!!!

[WVRedsFan]

Great goodness, Joey is unhuman. Another double

[Larry Schuler]

Is he a robot?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2016 left fielder.

Which one? Banshee, Tom or Jake?

[fondfoat]

That Votto

is so hot


right now

Literally carrying the team.

[Banshee]

Which one? Banshee, Tom or Jake?

Platoon?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is he a robot?

Tom? Yes. Yes he is.

[RedlegJake]

Votto isn;t elite anymore. Elite players hit so much better than high 900 OPS. Like 1 or 2 guys beat that. Seriously, Marty has become a cranky old curmudgeon.

[WrongVerb]

When I was at FSU I got to see Choate pitch from time to time. Can't believe he's almost 40. Getting old...happens to the best of us.

In other news, Joey is...I don't think there's a word for it. We should all be enjoying this streak. The guy is flat out super-human right now.

[BCubb2003]

Trade the rest of them and let Votto play all the positions.

[Big Klu]

Miguel Sokolovich?!

(Of the Caracas Sokoloviches)

[WrongVerb]

naw - they'll sit him on the bench and start someone like Boesch in left until Winker is ready.

Good lord I hope not. This team eschews intra-team competitions for some odd reason. Suarez is better than Cozart. And 7 years younger.

[Larkin Fan]

Just wanted to drop in and remind ya'll what a waste of $250 million Joey Votto is.

[Ironman92]

Literally carrying the team.

He's been amazing but Reds are 3-7 in their last 10 and Cueto/Leake have been outstanding as well.

Votto is definitely on some kind of year and not far from getting a lot of attention.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Socolovich in with his 1.66 era. The cards could have one of the beer vendors come in and have a sub 2.00 era. Witchcraft. It's gotta be.

- - - Updated - - -

Bruce singles and plates Joey! 4-0 Reds

[Tom Servo]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce

4-0 Reds

[villain612]

Birthday dinner for Marty

9528

[WVRedsFan]

RBI 55 for Jay.

[BCubb2003]

Birthday dinner for Marty

9528

With the right sauce, the wings are tasty.

[fondfoat]

He's been amazing but Reds are 3-7 in their last 10 and Cueto/Leake have been outstanding as well.

Votto is definitely on some kind of year and not far from getting a lot of attention.

Yeah but Cueto is gone and Leake isn't far behind. I guess Frazier, Bruce, and Suarez have been helping out a bit ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Suarez flies out. 2 down.

Chappy & Hoover warming. Hoover most likely

Tucker flies out to right to end the inning. 4-0 Reds.

Do I get partial credit? I was off by 1 run. 8 innings, 4 hits, NO runs allowed. Not too shabby. Leake :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Ironman92]

Welp....Leake is out but the Cardinals are the Cardinals and I look for a blown win. They are the Cardinals for a reason.

[klw]

Votto a triple shy of the cycle yet again. No rbi on that double either. For shame!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Chappy in.

[George Foster]

I hope we find the money to keep Leake. He is not a #1, but he stays healthy and eats 200 innings a year. Hard to replace.

[RedTeamGo!]

Starting Leake tonight vs the Cardinals before a trade is a recipe for disaster....for the cardinals.

I'm like a prophet.

[fondfoat]

Who cares if its a save opportunity or not? Get over it. Pitchers gotta pitch.

[WrongVerb]

86 mph change from Chapman should be illegal.

[WVRedsFan]

I hope we find the money to keep Leake. He is not a #1, but he stays healthy and eats 200 innings a year. Hard to replace.I keep hearing that there is not much interest in him now. Don't give him away and try to sign him,

[BluegrassRedleg]

Who cares if its a save opportunity. Get over it. Pitchers gotta pitch.

Agree. The concept of a "save" is really nonsense when people think in those terms. Wish there was no such thing, or at the very least, a renewed definition.

[JMO]

Reds should extend Mike Leake, period. He deserves to stay and pitch on Opening Day. He'd front the rotation next year with Homer coming back after the All Star break. Stephenson, Lamb, Iglesias and Disco could be the rotation until Bailey gets back.

[WrongVerb]

Who cares if its a save opportunity or not? Get over it. Pitchers gotta pitch.

Exactly! Gotta get out of this counting stat mentality and start thinking in terms of leverage. Pitch Chapman in high leverage situations, not necessarily only in save situations.

[WVRedsFan]

Reds win. Leake great job.

[_Sir_Charles_]

And this one belongs to the Reds! Great game by Leake & Votto. Nuxy's got a tough choice tonight. I bet he goes with the pitcher. :O)

[Tom Servo]

We're good again! :beerme:


Thanks for everything, Mike.

[BCubb2003]

Agree. The concept of a "save" is really nonsense when people think in those terms. Wish there was no such thing, or at the very least, a renewed definition.

It should called a Hold, and the Save should be for the high-leverage situation.

[WrongVerb]

Reds should extend Mike Leake, period. He deserves to stay and pitch on Opening Day. He'd front the rotation next year with Homer coming back after the All Star break. That is 1, 2. Stephenson, Lamb, Iglesias and Disco could be the rotation until Bailey gets back.

Reds should trade Leake to the Dodgers for Zach Lee and Darnell Sweeney, and then re-sign him over the winter. :D

[villain612]

Reds should extend Mike Leake, period. He deserves to stay and pitch on Opening Day. He'd front the rotation next year with Homer coming back after the All Star break. That is 1, 2. Stephenson, Lamb, Iglesias and Disco could be the rotation until Bailey gets back.

Sure, let's extend Leake. 4 years, $40 million. Let's do it.

[Big Klu]

Tonight's "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" is Mike Leake, who pitched a four-hit shutout through eight innings, and also singled and scored a run!

(Honorable mention to Joey Votto, but I gave it to Mike because it might be his last opportunity to win one. Besides, we all know how the Ol' Lefthander liked to talk to pitchers who also got hits in the game!)

[Ironman92]

Good God guys you made it hard on me tonight. Reverse jinxing all night....to a t

I do it every game I watch him pitch live TV....when I'm not doing it on his starts I have the game DVR'd and slowly fast forward through commercials and never quite catch up to the game.

I couldn't acknowledge the reverse as it would negate it...some of you were trying hard! Lol

[Wheelhouse]

Sure, let's extend Leake. 4 years, $40 million. Let's do it.

I agree, but $40 mm wont do it.

[RedlegJake]

Good God guys you made it hard on me tonight. Reverse jinxing all night....to a t

I do it every game I watch him pitch live TV....when I'm not doing it on his starts I have the game DVR'd and slowly fast forward through commercials and never quite catch up to the game.

I couldn't acknowledge the reverse as it would negate it...some of you were trying hard! Lol

Should have known. Sorry Ironman - I was wondering why you were being so down on him - you're not one of the negative nelly's about everything. I should have known.

[WVRedsFan]

Good God guys you made it hard on me tonight. Reverse jinxing all night....to a t

I do it every game I watch him pitch live TV....when I'm not doing it on his starts I have the game DVR'd and slowly fast forward through commercials and never quite catch up to the game.

I couldn't acknowledge the reverse as it would negate it...some of you were trying hard! Loli knew what you were doing, and I was hoping you wouldn't take the bait.

[Mutaman]

That was Mikey 61st major league win since being drafted 6 years ago.

[Big Klu]

Just noticed that Chris Welsh is wearing a bow tie with a golf shirt! :lol:

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Jay Bruce - 198
11. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Joey Votto - 182
13. Brandon Phillips - 173
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101
27. Todd Frazier - 100

[JMO]

I would offer Leake 4/45 M with a 5th yr option for 15 M. So 5/60 M deal. Get it done. Leake is everything the Reds look for in a SP. Only 27 years old. Durable, athletic, can hit, pinch run, GG defense, 200 IP, great work ethic, etc. Extend Leake. After this deal, he'd be only 31. Set up perfectly for another payday.

[miamiredskin]

I would offer Leake 4/45 M with a 5th yr option for 15 M. So 5/60 M deal. Get it done. Leake is everything the Reds look for in a SP. Only 27 years old. Durable, athletic, can hit, pinch run, GG defense, 200 IP, great work ethic, etc. Extend Leake.

nope. I'd rather have Homer because he strikes out more guys.

[Ironman92]

That was Mikey 61st major league win since being drafted 6 years ago.

62nd

[Ironman92]

Sit down Cardinals...you suck! Series win tomorrow

[Ironman92]

nope. I'd rather have Homer because he strikes out more guys.

The last 6 seasons:

Leake 701 K
Homer 700 K

[50YrRedsFan]

nope. I'd rather have Homer because he strikes out more guys.

I'd have to go with Leake.....no, he doesn't strikeout that many, but durability is vital. It doesn't do the Reds any good with Homer on the shelf as much or more than he is on the field.

[TheBigLebowski]

Great win.

Geez, we could win the series tomorrow.

['69]

nope. I'd rather have Homer because he strikes out more guys.

Since Homer's not going anywhere, he's the anchor literally and figuratively.

[miamiredskin]

The last 6 seasons:

Leake 701 K
Homer 700 K

doesn't matter...Homer is the power pitcher

[Ironman92]

doesn't matter...Homer is the power pitcher

You said he strikes out more guys...since Leake joined the Reds 6 years ago Homer has not struck out more guys.

Petty I know but I'm disgusted they gave Homer all of that money because he threw 2 no hitters. He hasn't done crap without Ryan Hanigan.

[Tom Servo]

Petty I know but I'm disgusted they gave Homer all of that money because he threw 2 no hitters. He hasn't done crap without Ryan Hanigan.
They didn't give him all that money for two no hitters. They gave him the money because he great in 2012 and 2013 was trending upwards with experience and great stuff like Max Scherzer.

Oh and after a bad April last year he had a 3.17 ERA from May-August 2014, and a 1.62 ERA his last 7 starts. And then he got hurt. It happens. It could happen to Mike Leake next week.

[miamiredskin]

They didn't give him all that money for two no hitters. They gave him the money because he great in 2012 and 2013 was trending upwards with experience and great stuff like Max Scherzer.

Oh and after a bad April last year he had a 3.17 ERA from May-August 2014, and a 1.62 ERA his last 7 starts. And then he got hurt. It happens. It could happen to Mike Leake next week.

except it won't.

[Tom Servo]

except it won't.
Bronson Arroyo went 8 years without missing a start. And then he had arm pain. And then TJ surgery. But yeah, it could never possibly happen to Mike Leake, and that's clearly why he should have been resigned instead of Bailey.

[Ironman92]

They didn't give him all that money for two no hitters. They gave him the money because he great in 2012 and 2013 was trending upwards with experience and great stuff like Max Scherzer.

Oh and after a bad April last year he had a 3.17 ERA from May-August 2014, and a 1.62 ERA his last 7 starts. And then he got hurt. It happens. It could happen to Mike Leake next week.

3.68 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 112 ERA+ is great?

[Tom Servo]

3.68 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 112 ERA+ is great?
27th best ERA+ in all of baseball in 2012 (right behind the aforementioned Mr. Scherzer). But fine, he was really good in 2012 and great in 2013. And the Reds gambled that he was going to get even better. And they might have crapped out, it remains to be seen, but I get tired of the constant bashing of players who earn the big money and lionization of those who don't.

[Ironman92]

27th best ERA+ in all of baseball in 2012 (right behind the aforementioned Mr. Scherzer). But fine, he was really good in 2012 and great in 2013. And the Reds gambled that he was going to get even better. And they might have crapped out, it remains to be seen, but I get tired of the constant bashing of players who earn the big money and lionization of those who don't.

Just not getting the great. In 2013 Leake had a lower ERA and higher ERA+

At no point have I ever thought Leake deserved big money. I sit here likely as Leake's biggest fan on this site....but I wouldn't go beyond 4 years $55 million...but at no point did I ever see any reason to give Homer such huge money. Similar stuff to Sherzer yeah....but mound presence, composure and durability has to somehow be factored. A lot of guys with outstanding stuff but everything else he does on the mound just appears (sorry, nothing concrete here and I know that's a no no on here) to be anything beyond average. I did it in the past and don't remember but in that 1 year or maybe both his numbers to Hanigan and then everyone else were drastically, eye-opening different....like Rockies players in Colorado vs on road. .....and then they get rid of Hanigan and sign Homer big. Made no sense and I simply just never have trusted Walt.

I need Homer to be great next year and beyond and if it's debatable then it's not great.

[villain612]

Just not getting the great. In 2013 Leake had a lower ERA and higher ERA+

At no point have I ever thought Leake deserved big money. I sit here likely as Leake's biggest fan on this site....but I wouldn't go beyond 4 years $55 million...but at no point did I ever see any reason to give Homer such huge money. Similar stuff to Sherzer yeah....but mound presence, composure and durability has to somehow be factored. A lot of guys with outstanding stuff but everything else he does on the mound just appears (sorry, nothing concrete here and I know that's a no no on here) to be anything beyond average. I did it in the past and don't remember but in that 1 year or maybe both his numbers to Hanigan and then everyone else were drastically, eye-opening different....like Rockies players in Colorado vs on road. .....and then they get rid of Hanigan and sign Homer big. Made no sense and I simply just never have trusted Walt.

I need Homer to be great next year and beyond and if it's debatable then it's not great.

In Homer's defense, from 2012-2014, he had a considerably lower FIP than Leake, even if the ERA+ difference wasn't that huge. I guess we can go back and forth on what pitching metrics to use to effectively evaluate a pitcher's true talent, but the one stat that solely judges a pitcher without factoring in team defense favored Homer. In addition, Homer had shown flashes of complete dominance in individual games that Leake simply had not. The kind of dominance that looks like could lead to ace potential and/or have more value come playoff time, so the Reds chose Homer instead to give the extension to.

As of right now, Bailey's injuries are definitely disconcerting and 2016-17 will be very important for him, I agree. Leake's best asset has been his durability. The question is if the Reds can afford to pay for that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Good God guys you made it hard on me tonight. Reverse jinxing all night....to a t

I do it every game I watch him pitch live TV....when I'm not doing it on his starts I have the game DVR'd and slowly fast forward through commercials and never quite catch up to the game.

I couldn't acknowledge the reverse as it would negate it...some of you were trying hard! Lol

It took me a couple of posts to realize it. My bad.

[BLEEDS]

Trade the rest of them and let Votto play all the positions.

First base: Joey Votto
Second base: Joey Votto
Third base: Joey Votto
...

PEACE

-BLEEDS